If we’re screwed, we’re gonna set the world on fire and drag everyone down with us

Here we go: arbitrary provocation.

President Donald Trump has announced that the US formally recognises Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and will begin the process of moving its embassy to the city, breaking with decades of US policy.

“I have determined that it is time to officially recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel,” Trump said in a televised speech on Wednesday.


  1. Phrenomythic Productions says

    I am sorry to barge in with a completely off-topic comment, but our venerable “friend” and YouTube jackass extraordinaire Phil “Thunderf00t” Mason has just resorted to a bullying campaign of a much smaller and female (of course) YouTuber and YouTube buddy of mine, Inés Dawson of the channel DrawCuriosity. Apparently he used a clip from her video in a non-Fair-Use way and when confronted with a DMCA claim from her, he put up a video slamming her and irking his much larger audience to go after her.

    Watch and be horrified:

    DrawCuriousity threatens copyright claim over TENS SECONDS of video!

    I hope you guys can contribute by flagging this jerk’s video and such. Thanks in advance!

  2. Zmidponk says

    People have been arguing over that particular city for about 3000 years. Trump seems to think that his declaration will solve everything. That is breathtaking ignorance, breathtaking arrogance, or both (my bet is ‘both’).

  3. Saad says

    I wish he could be promptly removed on the basis of the fact that he’s a danger to the United States.

  4. says


    I wish he could be promptly removed on the basis of the fact that he’s a danger to the United States.

    The idiot is a danger to the whole world.

  5. a_ray_in_dilbert_space says

    I’ve said it before: After Trump is done, the only meaningful distinction between the US and Haiti will be that the US has nukes.

  6. quotetheunquote says

    We’ve seen this movie before, sort of, in Canada; in June 1979, the government of then-Prime Minister “Joe who?” Clark introduced a motion to move the embassy to Jerusalem. The uproar was immediate and overwhelmingly negative, and the motion was withdrawn (eventually). Clark’s government fell after only six months (although it was over a budget, nothing to do with the embassy proposal).

    (Hooray for parliamentary democracy! If the leader of the government does something really dumb (or evil) the House can vote no-confidence, and then he’s out of there .. sort of like impeachment, but potentially much, much, quicker).

  7. says

    ThunderSnowflake is such an ass. All she’s asking for is an acknowledgment of her work that he is using, which is not at all unreasonable.

  8. unclefrogy says

    the question of is it arrogance or ignorance or both is easily answered when you factor in humility. arrogance and ignorance are always joined by conceit of which the man has a vast supply that is not balanced by any humility what so ever.
    This action as with most of his actions are the result of the poisonous combination of ignorance, arrogance and conceit.

    uncle frogy

  9. says

    Evangelical christians have been slavering over this moment for ages on end. This is what they want; they want more war in the Middle East, because Armageddon. Can’t have your Jesus until you have your Armageddon.

  10. Bruce says

    Under Trump, Jews and Muslims will be able to come together in Jerusalem and wish each other a Merry Christmas.

  11. says

    Sadly, Democrats could have as easily failed on this issue. (It perhaps helps having actual policy experts to keep them in check, though.) I remembered something about this in a party platform and finally realized it was from the 2012 national convention where it (recognition of Jerusalem as the capital) needed a 2/3 vote, didn’t get that vote, but the chairman accepted it since it was voice vote. https://youtu.be/t8BwqzzqcDs

  12. Dave, ex-Kwisatz Haderach says

    Holy hell, the fever swamps are going bugnuts about this. The anti-Semitic Trumpanzees seem convinced this is some 12D chess move that will end Israel once and for all. To others, this will somehow end the Mueller investigation and bring down Hillary and the globalist pedophile conspiracy. And it goes downhill from there. What the hell is wrong with people?

  13. Ichthyic says

    What the hell is wrong with people?

    Cognitive dissonance from 2 generations of being lied to by neoliberal shitheads like Roger Ailes and Rupert Murderface.

  14. William Webb says


    – is an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist Jewish State;

    – has been stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land and
    oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians for over 60 years;

    – refuses to honor its obligations under international law;

    – refuses to accept responsibility and accountability for its past and on-going war crimes; and

    – refuses to enter into sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace.

    See http://www.ifamericansknew.org and http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/photos/maps/landloss.html for more information.

  15. A momentary lapse... says

    Stir up conflict in the Middle East
    More refugees head towards Europe
    Destabilisation of European democracies
    Putin wins!

  16. pilgham says

    Lose the “If”. These guys really think “we’re screwed, we’re gonna set the world on fire and drag everyone down with us” It’s the only thing that makes sense. Perhaps “steal everything and claim it was lost in the fire.”

  17. says

    Cross posted from the Political Madness All the Time thread.

    A summary of reactions so far to Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital:

    […] it looks like things might get worse, as the decision carries critical security implications, not just for the Middle East, but for U.S. troops and embassies there, as well.

    Less than 24 hours after Trump’s announcement:

    Hamas has called for a third intifada — or uprising — against Israel, with protests already under way and more planned in the following days.

    Al-Qaeda-affiliated militant group al Shabab has issued a call to arms in response to U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, urging “all Muslims to raise arms and defend the blessed al-Aqsa from the Zionist occupiers supported by America, because what was taken by force can only be restored by force,” said spokesman Sheikh Ali Mohamud.

    Lebanon’s Hezbollah — which has fought wars pushing Israel out of the country’s south — called Trump’s decision a “treacherous and malicious aggression,” with the group’s parliamentary spokesman Hassan Fadlallah, saying the only way out is via armed “resistance.”

    Protests have broken out in several cities across Jordan, including the capital of Amman. Jordan has also called an emergency meeting of the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation this weekend to cope with the consequences of Trump’s decision.

    Iraq, a key U.S. ally in the Middle East, has urged Trump to reverse his decision, with the leader of a major Shia militia group, the Harakt Hezbollah al-Nujaba, saying that, “Trump’s stupid decision to make Jerusalem a capital for the Zionist will be the big spark for removing this entity from the body of the Islamic nation, and a legitimate reason to target American forces.” There have also been protests against the decision in the capital of Baghdad.

    Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan responded to the announcement by accusing Trump of throwing the region “into a ring of fire,” while his government spokesman said Trump had set “a fire with no end in sight.”

    United Arab Emirates called the move a “complete defiance of the historic and permanent rights of the Palestinian people.” It also urged Arabs and Muslims to unite against the U.S. position on Jerusalem.
    Pakistan’s Jamaat-e-Islami has also called for country-wide protests against the United States — already, American and Israeli flags have been burned at rallies there. […]

    Think Progress link

    This is not the first time that Trump seemed determined to fuel terrorist propaganda, and not the first time that he has ignored good advice from U.S. allies.

  18. jrkrideau says

    Hooray for parliamentary democracy

    Hear, hear.


    A momentary lapse…

    Putin wins!

    Are yoou nuts or just an american?

  19. davidc1 says

    Next step they will breed a red cow ,or whatever the nutjobs think will bring on the end times.