You know, I hear a lot of noise about the internet’s “outrage culture” and how everyone needs to be more polite and stop making people, especially white male people, so uncomfortable. The latest was a disappointing rant by Patton Oswalt who wants everyone to stop criticizing comics (dealt with well by Joe Garden, another comedian).
They never seem to factor in the fact that there is also a lot to be outraged about, and that complacency isn’t a solution, it’s a potentiator of problems. It can be racism, it can be the growing divide between classes, it can be the abuse of women…it doesn’t matter how big the problem is, someone will be whining that you aren’t allowed to complain.
At least we can find unity in one thing: The “Food Babe” Blogger Is Full of Shit. This is the latest expose of her bad science, and it’s damning. It’s written by someone who knows what they’re talking about.
I am an analytical chemist with a background in forensics and toxicology. Before working full-time as a science writer and public speaker, I worked as a chemistry professor, a toxicology chemist, and in research analyzing pesticides for safety. I now run my own blog, Science Babe, dedicated to debunking pseudoscience that tends to proliferate in the blogosphere. Reading Hari’s site, it’s rare to come across a single scientific fact. Between her egregious abuse of the word "toxin" anytime there’s a chemical she can’t pronounce and asserting that everyone who disagrees with her is a paid shill, it’s hard to pinpoint her biggest sin.
And then the author tears her apart bit by bit. It’s glorious.
Then I looked in on the Food Babe blog. It was depressing. There’s some good stuff there — sure, nice healthy recipes are fine — but all the stupidity leavening it makes it repugnant. And then there’s the long list of endorsements she publicizes:the New York Times, Good Morning America, Dr Oz, The Doctors, USA Today, CNN. This is why she succeeds: the media are willing panderers to her flavor of garbage.
Maybe someone ought to introduce them to Science Based Cuisine. CNN ought to bring Dr Ricky on instead of the uneducated person with no knowledge of science or food.
richardelguru says
FTB is making me really hungry this morning: first Cuttlefish with his delicious “Meaningless Pieces Of Meat” and now PZ with grilled Food Babe!!
[wanders off before tum rumbles drown out everything else…]
zenlike says
Sad, Patton Oswald is generally a funny and clever comedian. Seeing him embarras himself by burning a barn full of straw is painfull to read.
PZ Myers says
Check out Science-Based Cuisine. The post at top right now is about a stew made of organs, and below that is one about tasty grasshoppers. That’ll fix you right up.
richardelguru says
Thank you PZ, you are a scholar and a gentleman (not necessarily in that order) :-)
richardelguru says
Oh! and Science-Based Cuisine has really good advice about the grasshoppers “Don’t eat the old bottled ones”.
HolyPinkUnicorn says
Part of her appeal is how TV-friendly of a “Babe” she is; she’s easy on the eyes, if not on the brain, and her irrational opinions on food chemistry are more interesting than some explanations that debunks nonsense about gobbledygook.
and uses scary, hard-to-pronounce words. And I suspect this is part of the reason people fell (still fall?) for Jenny McCarthy and herrietpluim says
Yvette d’Entremont is a chemist. You know, the kind of person that makes chemicals for a living, even for fun. You’d trust her as much as the chemicals in your food.
In short: Yvette d’Entremont rocks!
dõki says
Anybody else getting an “Error establishing a database connection” message from the SciBabe website?
dõki says
Oh, never mind, it’s online again.
kc9oq says
Wait ’til Food Babe discovers IUPAC naming. I sure wouldn’t want any (2R,3R,4S,5S,6R)-2-[(2S,3S,4S,5R)-3,4-dihydroxy-2,5-bis(hydroxymethyl)oxolan-2-yl]oxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)oxane-3,4,5-triol [aka sucrose] in my tea.
The Mellow Monkey says
kc9oq @ 10
Ha. Shows what you know. The Food Babe has already determined that she has an “allergy” to refined sugar.
Sastra says
There’s a certain segment of the public which feels “empowered” by the everything-the-experts-tell-you-is-wrong schtick. Some of this arrogance comes out of a counter-cultural love of rebellion for its own sake, some of it is derived from the idea that simpler, natural ways are always best — and I think a big whopping load of it drops from a combination of both.
Artor says
ScienceBabe’s website has been getting overloaded, since her Grilled Food Babe article has been reposted so much.
00001000bit says
Since PZ brought up eating grasshoppers … does anyone know if a shellfish allergy typically carries over to other arthropods such as crickets or grasshoppers? I’ve never really known what specifically in shellfish causes the allergic reaction, and didn’t know if it was something having to do with habitat, was something limited to crustaceans specifically, or if it was maybe an allergen that is shared among a wider set of relatives and extended to arthropods in general.
Tabby Lavalamp says
One of my favourite bits of irony is that invariably the people who go on about the “perpetual outrage machine” are themselves perpetually outraged. Gamergate is a fine example of this.
Uncle Ebeneezer says
I know. Projection much? I’ve been arguing with some FB friends over this and it’s really strange how passionate they are about this alleged Outrage Culture and how people are so much more sensitive nowadays etc. It feels to me like simply an extension of the Political Correctness Myth that so many people believe in. In addition to just how upset people seem to be at the idea of other people making criticisms they disagree with, the other thing that has really stood out is the poor quality of their arguments. Even people who are usually pretty good on Social Justice issues and applying critical thinking to bad arguments are showing big time blindspots on this topic. Most of them are involved in the arts to some extent so I suppose they could be oversensitive/paranoid about artistic freedom. Anyways, here are some of the bad arguments that I’ve seen just in the past few days (with my rough responses in itallics):
People These Days…- People are just too sensitive nowadays and everyone wants to be offended by things. (Rather than the idea that maybe people have always been offended by offensive jokes and that the internet is just making it easier for the voices of people previously excluded from the conversation from being heard.)
Just A Joke- People need to get a sense of humor. (intent is not magic, most racism/homophobia is inadvertant etc.)
Slippery Slope- Criticism of offensive tweets will put us on a slippery slope towards a World Without Comedy! (Seriously? Nobody is censoring comedians or saying that any topics are Off Limits, just that some topics deserve a cautious approach by the comic and feedback from the audience to tell them when they screw up. Even if these topics were somehow Off Limits, that would still leave nearly endless other topics that a comic could use. The net loss of laughter in the world would probably not be huge.)
Not Targeting Certain Groups = Treating Them Differently, Rather Than Treating Them Like Everyone Else- (Right, because the balance of humor is so naturally equal. Just think of all those jokes that mock people for being white, wealthy, straight, cis, able-bodied, fit, etc.
The Job Of The Audience Is To…- The Audience OWES it to the comic to only react in certain ways in order for comedy to work. People who can’t handle a joke shouldn’t go to comedy clubs, or read twitter, or um exist.. (last time I checked the comedian was the one getting paid. The audience has no job other than to react however they want to.)
Grow A Pair/Thicker Skin/You Have the Power Etc.- Self explanatory. But the weird corollary was that a friend of mine went on a whole thing about how you CHOOSE to be offended by granting the offender power. If we could all just be stronger like him…problem solved! (F. That. Noise. Why should the onus be on the victim to change rather than on the person doing the offending (regardless of their intention?))
People Don’t Understand Context/Comedy/Twitter- Oh those silly rubes who don’t have our comic sophistication and internet savvy… (I must be fortunate to run in fairly enlightened circles because all the SJW criticisms I’ve seen have been from people who absolutely get context and humor and just take issue with downward-punching comedy. Some are even professional comedians.)
anteprepro says
Uncle Ebeneezer: That’s a damn fine comment right there.
azhael says
Oh no…..Patton….no…..
blf says
Over at Bad Science, there is a claim (which strikes me as being quite plausible):
However, there are no citations. My Generalissimo Goggle™-Fu hasn’t found anything, albeit there apparently is a private Farcebork page which sounds, ah, “promising”: facebook.com/groups/foodbabearmy
Uncle Ebeneezer says
Thanks Anteprepro, I screwed up the bold and forgot a couple:
History Eraser Button– So you think the world would have been a better place without Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Whatever-Legendary-Comedian-Once-Used-Offensive-Humor etc.
Why Should We Care More About One Groups Feelings Than Others?– (Says the person who is strangely obsessed with protecting the feelings of comedian’s at the expense of the people the ridicule.)
The other thing that is strange about the whole kerfuffle is that it’s not like Oswalt is totally clueless. He used to defend rape jokes but then after listening to actual rape-victims, he admirably changed his tune:
Which makes his inability to use the same logic with regards to the complaints about Treavor Noah all the more disappointing.
PatrickG says
From The Mellow Monkey, quoting TFB @10
Well, shoot. And here I thought lasers made anything better.
karpad says
I’m more or less indifferent about Trevor Noah. Some of the tweets were more offensive than others (“implying Israel is warlike” is not, and never will be, antisemitic) I don’t think it has any bearing about whether or not he is in his heart of hearts an ally who supports justice and is just steeped in our bullshit culture like everyone else, or whether he “deserves” the show. Because god knows Stewart has had his fair share of problematic jokes, both before joining TDS and while with that program.
I did, however, make up my mind quite some time ago about Patton Oswalt, who isn’t generally as bad as say, Bill Maher, but is much, much more disappointing because I expected better from him in the first place.
Al Dente says
Shining a bright light on your skin fixes many aliments like imaginary allergies to sugar and a surplus of money in your wallet.
auntbenjy says
And she’s responded, with another of her personal attack style blogs…
http://foodbabe.com/response-to-gawker-the-food-babe-blogger-is-full-of-shit/
Hershele Ostropoler says
In a Facebook group I expressed disappointment with Oswalt’s defense of Noah’s tweets, explaining why I feel he should know better, and someone responded to inform me that, you see, Patton Oswalt is a comedian, so …
Thumper: Who Presents Boxes Which Are Not Opened says
@ HolyPinkUnicorn #6
I disagree; a very large part of her appeal is based on the fact that she is very easy on the brain.
ironflange says
She’s right about the paid shills part. I frequently make critical comments about her, and every few weeks or so Monsanto will back a dump truck full of money up to my door. It’s great.
Hershele Ostropoler says
I looked into becoming a paid Monsanto shill, but they don’t seem to have any obs in my area.