1. JohnnieCanuck says


    Is it true what they say that if I hate bigots, that makes me one too?

  2. cswella says

    Hating bigots is part of a complete breakfast. It’s not like they were born bigoted.

  3. Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :) says

    On the bright side, since Colorado has legal weed, at least Leviticus 20:13 can be fulfilled:

    “If a man lies with a man as he would with a woman, they should both be stoned”

  4. Sven says

    Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness upheld. Republicans outraged.

    (You and all readers have my permission to repost this anywhere you want without citation or attribution)

  5. Trebuchet says

    Nevermind. Five other Black-Robed Tyrants will turn it around some time next year.

  6. David Chapman says

    A judge has ruled that Colorado’s same-sex marriage ban is unconstitutional.

    I want to marry him.

  7. krubozumo says

    JohnnyCanuck –

    In the minds of the bigots, yes of course.


    Oh yeah? True bigots are born, not made… I heard that somewhere.

    Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)

    Point well taken and easily generalized in fact…..


    Um, yes probably. Equality under the law? Pay me.

    The really interesting thing about graft and corruption is that both sides might pay, but in the end only one side gets what they want. One wonders how that games out in the long term.

    I dislike using terms like gaming things but they are convenient in this context. It all comes down to
    some of the classical dilemnas explored by Hofstader and the like a few decades past.

    There is no joy in Brasil at the moment.


  8. whheydt says

    I see from the underlying article that this was a Colorado State Court ruling. So…the Colorado AG has two ways to lose. He can lose the appeal of this ruling in the state courts and/or he gets blown out of the water if the 10th Circuit decision in the Utah case stands. (And, I note, the article says that the Utah AG is planning to appeal to SCOTUS, rather than take the delaying tactic of asking for an _en banc_ hearing from the 10th Circuit.)

  9. screechymonkey says


    Nevermind. Five other Black-Robed Tyrants will turn it around some time next year.

    I’m not so sure. As lousy as he is on women’s rights, Anthony Kennedy has been ok on gay rights issues. Cautious and slow-moving, but ok. The Supremes might try to avoid taking another gay marriage case next Term, but I don’t see them putting the brakes on this.

  10. says

    I recall when James Dobson moved Focus on the Family from California because the Golden State was awash in hedonism and sin. Now that Colorado has pot and same-sex marriage, will his successors uproot Focus on the Family from Colorado Springs and go searching for a new promised land (such as, for example, Uganda or Russia)? Will newly-married same-sex couples now pose for wedding-day photos in front of the Focus on the Family campus in Colorado?

  11. marcus says

    I live in Colorado, they are becoming imminently rational. Coincidence? I think not.

    Jokes aside, this makes me very happy. Equality wins again! Lots of work yet to do, but still… Yay us!

    @ Trebuchet Personally I think SCOTUS will uphold the 10th District ruling. We’ve taken some hits on First Amendment cases but I think this is going to be a legacy issue for Kennedy (perhaps Roberts as well). Anyway, at this juncture I choose to be optimistic and pleased.

  12. Trebuchet says

    If the Supremes do uphold some of these rulings, it’s a cinch they’ll do it on the narrowest possible basis, and leave states an out for continuing to discriminate.

  13. whheydt says

    Colorado has taken a further turn for the weird.

    Remember the Boulder clerk who stated issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples as soon at the 10th Circuit decision in the Utah case was handed down? And then ignored the Colo. AG when he told her to stop it?

    Well… The AG took her a state court…and that court said that not only could she continue to issue same-sex marriage licenses (with some additional paperwork and a warning to the couples that they might be invalidated later), but he didn’t stay the ruling while the AG appeals it.

    So now the AG is losing on at least three fronts at once in this matter.

  14. whheydt says

    As for all the predictions that SCOTUS will take the Utah case… I’m not so sure. One thing to look for is how the 6th Circuit rules in the Virginia case. If the 6th Circuit rules the same way as the 10th, then there is no appellate “dispute” and they may not take either case. (This reasoning applies when other circuits make decisions as well, but so far as I know the 10th and 6th are the only circuits that have gotten as far as oral arguments, let alone making a decision.)

    As for the Utah AG deciding to appeal to SCOTUS rather than asking for an _en banc_ rehearing, I think that means that AG thinks he can win. If he didn’t think he could win, one would expect him to draw out the process as long as possible to delay a final and unavoidable loss.

    Alternatively, the Utah AG is scared of political fallout for spending money where such could be avoided.