Burtclothier beat me to it. But at least I’ve got the link.
ChasCPetersonsays
Metazoan wasps? Shit just changes too fast for me to keep up with anymore.
?
Are youy joking? (if so I don’t get it.)
Metazoan = animal
wasps definitely count.
fredbloggssays
Variation! What would evolution be without it?
matthewhowerysays
PZ, I’m not sure where this puts me in your legions of fans, but I just wanted to share that my favorite aspect of your blogs is not the aggressive atheism (which I love), nor the blatant disdain for lack of critical thinking and education (which I love), or the almost fanatical devotion to the pop -er, I mean, science (which I love).
No. As a student of philosophy, I can state categorically that the best aspect of your blog is the constant Monty Python references. :)
Cheers!
P.S. Can I join your group? -I really hate the Romans!
evodevosays
I’ve been dealing personally with Polistes for 30 years in and around my house, barn, outbuildings, cars, equipment, etc.etc. They were not very aggressive in the first place, and I think I have exerted selection pressure on them to boot. Most of them just sit on the nest and look at me now, without attacking. You have to really knock them around before they respond. I don’t know if they can recognize MY face, but they can see pretty well ! I have no doubt they can recognize each other’s faces.
ChasCPeterson #11 – I didn’t get it either. My brain farted, then blew up.
My bad.
robsays
Unrelated question. Is Panda’s Thumb down?
I have not been able to connecting in 12 hours from work or home.
Aquariasays
:::bursts into tears and runs screaming from the room::::
I was attacked by a colony of wasps when I was four. My grandparents thought I was overreacting when I started screaming and gasping for air after they thought they’d calmed me down. I think they got the hint when I passed out from not being able to breathe.
I understand my 68-year-old grandfather had me in the car and in the emergency room 7 miles away in three minutes flat after I dropped. Thankfully, all but .3 miles of it was on a state highway with a 70 mph speed limit. Not that anyone would have stopped him. Every cop in that area knew that if he was driving more than 35, it was important.
autumnsays
Never have I been happier to have seen the Electric Company episode that explained how exoskeletons put a limit on the size of insects.
Outrage Zombiesays
Don’t feel too bad, PZ. If it weren’t for the huge difference in size, I’m sure we’d all recognize individual wasps just fine right before we ran for our lives.
radpumpkinsays
Claiming all wasps look alike may be speciesist, but there is still the matter of the only rational thing that can be said when confronted with that many bloody wasps at once:
KILL THEM WITH FIRE!!!1!111!!!!1!111!!!11111!!!
mikelaingsays
The middle one on the left is kind of cute!
Richard Smithsays
@mikelaing (#23):
The middle one on the left is kind of cute!
That would be Jan, right?
NelCsays
A random thought just occurred to me: how do insects focus their vision? Do they focus or is the focus of the elements of their compound eyes fixed?
Actually, I’m not sure she still is, either. I’ll have to give her a buzz.
orchidgrowinmansays
evodevo,
See my comment on the Other Pharyngula; these Polistes make great pets! (I describe how I “tame” them.)
The European P. dominulus is a mutualist with humans: I have seen hoop-houses for growing tomatoes, peppers and the like (for extending the season) with dozens of colonies cheek-by-jowl as it were, and the farmers paid them no mind. I’ll bet caterpillars were no problem there!
Because of that relationship, these are surprizingly docile to people(or is it the other way ’round?): I would not be surprized that they at least recognize humans vs. other megafauna. Mine certainly recognized HANDS.
Glen Davidson says
All look the same? Probably not.
All wasp faces look nasty? Spot on.
Glen Davidson
Brownian says
More than that, they react violently when others attempt to rise above their perceived station, as judged by their colouring alone.
What’s even weirder: the insects that share their name do the same thing.
a3kr0n says
Metazoan wasps? Shit just changes too fast for me to keep up with anymore. [sigh]
EvoMonkey says
Herb, is that you in the upper right corner! Why are you looking at me with your jaws flared out like that?
Nooooooo!
Richard Smith says
I always thought the Brady Bunch was a very WASP-ish family, but I never realized just to what extent…
feralboy12 says
These creatures don’t resemble any White Anglo-Saxon Protestants I’ve ever seen. What are you trying to pull here?
Killed By Fish
burtclothier says
I’m not.
Ouigui says
Dammit, burtclothier beat me to it. It’s about time to watch that movie again.
Sili says
Even I can tell these wasps apart. WASPs not so much. (Nor WASMs.)
Physicalist says
Burtclothier beat me to it. But at least I’ve got the link.
ChasCPeterson says
?
Are youy joking? (if so I don’t get it.)
Metazoan = animal
wasps definitely count.
fredbloggs says
Variation! What would evolution be without it?
matthewhowery says
PZ, I’m not sure where this puts me in your legions of fans, but I just wanted to share that my favorite aspect of your blogs is not the aggressive atheism (which I love), nor the blatant disdain for lack of critical thinking and education (which I love), or the almost fanatical devotion to the pop -er, I mean, science (which I love).
No. As a student of philosophy, I can state categorically that the best aspect of your blog is the constant Monty Python references. :)
Cheers!
P.S. Can I join your group? -I really hate the Romans!
evodevo says
I’ve been dealing personally with Polistes for 30 years in and around my house, barn, outbuildings, cars, equipment, etc.etc. They were not very aggressive in the first place, and I think I have exerted selection pressure on them to boot. Most of them just sit on the nest and look at me now, without attacking. You have to really knock them around before they respond. I don’t know if they can recognize MY face, but they can see pretty well ! I have no doubt they can recognize each other’s faces.
Sandiseattle says
Third row middle, officer, I’d swear it. :-)
Sean Boyd says
#2 Brownian,
Well played. That is a win!
a3kr0n says
ChasCPeterson #11 – I didn’t get it either. My brain farted, then blew up.
My bad.
rob says
Unrelated question. Is Panda’s Thumb down?
I have not been able to connecting in 12 hours from work or home.
Aquaria says
:::bursts into tears and runs screaming from the room::::
I was attacked by a colony of wasps when I was four. My grandparents thought I was overreacting when I started screaming and gasping for air after they thought they’d calmed me down. I think they got the hint when I passed out from not being able to breathe.
I understand my 68-year-old grandfather had me in the car and in the emergency room 7 miles away in three minutes flat after I dropped. Thankfully, all but .3 miles of it was on a state highway with a 70 mph speed limit. Not that anyone would have stopped him. Every cop in that area knew that if he was driving more than 35, it was important.
autumn says
Never have I been happier to have seen the Electric Company episode that explained how exoskeletons put a limit on the size of insects.
Outrage Zombie says
Don’t feel too bad, PZ. If it weren’t for the huge difference in size, I’m sure we’d all recognize individual wasps just fine right before we ran for our lives.
radpumpkin says
Claiming all wasps look alike may be speciesist, but there is still the matter of the only rational thing that can be said when confronted with that many bloody wasps at once:
KILL THEM WITH FIRE!!!1!111!!!!1!111!!!11111!!!
mikelaing says
The middle one on the left is kind of cute!
Richard Smith says
@mikelaing (#23):
That would be Jan, right?
NelC says
A random thought just occurred to me: how do insects focus their vision? Do they focus or is the focus of the elements of their compound eyes fixed?
spamamander, hellmart survivor says
@ Autumn
World’s Largest Insect Nom Nom Noms a Carrot
That’s still WAY too effing big.
spamamander, hellmart survivor says
Gah borked the link.
here
mikelaing says
#Richard Smith(24) says:
Sigh…. She doesn’t even know I’m alive.
Actually, I’m not sure she still is, either. I’ll have to give her a buzz.
orchidgrowinman says
evodevo,
See my comment on the Other Pharyngula; these Polistes make great pets! (I describe how I “tame” them.)
The European P. dominulus is a mutualist with humans: I have seen hoop-houses for growing tomatoes, peppers and the like (for extending the season) with dozens of colonies cheek-by-jowl as it were, and the farmers paid them no mind. I’ll bet caterpillars were no problem there!
Because of that relationship, these are surprizingly docile to people(or is it the other way ’round?): I would not be surprized that they at least recognize humans vs. other megafauna. Mine certainly recognized HANDS.