Since the president of the Norwegian Humanist Association, Åse Kleveland, is also a well-known singer over here, and since she did do a little tune for us at dinner tonight, I thought I’d share.
Pharyngula
Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal
Just trying out my new moniker.
Dear TET:
I’ve recently come under fire at work for not following idiotic, bureaucratic policies, even though I was one of the people who developed the policies (I figured if policies are gonna be made anyway, I may as well take partial credit for making ’em.)
How do I make my coworkers aware of the fact that I’m not like them and the rules don’t apply to me?
Sincerely,
Brownian
Dhrovath,
I like!
I am sooooo glad that GRAVITYMAGNET! has been used today. That thread was too much fun.
Repost!
chigau:
Scissoring.
from the last thread
cmon folks, everyone knows that Laverne and Shirley were just beards for Lenny and Squiggy
Nothing new under the sun.
Dear Brownian:
Model the desired behavior: denounce your former policies. Say: when the facts change, I change policies. What do you do when the facts change?
Resume’s current?
Katherine, I’m looking forward to playing Bastion once it hits Steam. I’m about 2/3 of the way through Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet; haven’t played in a while.
And scissoring trumps me.
And now for something a bit more upbeat.
Oh, 80es, you so crazy.
Sexual orientation is about a lot more than genitals. It’s about attraction, even if no sexual activity is taking place. Romantic or sexual attraction can happen even if you’ve devoted your life to celibacy or to one woman or man.
Tell them you’re
Republanjob creator.Speaking of Ken dolls.
Ah …
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised those are Mormons.
Brothers even.
As the Youtube comments said: They’re not gay; just Sweedish.
So far, my policy has been to agree that the policies should be followed, and then not follow them anyway.
It’s less work than arguing.
If they haven’t fired me by now, they’re not going to anytime soon.
But I should look for something else. When getting away with willful disobedience is no longer a hobby but becomes the only joy you get from your job, it’s time to find something else. Preferably something with lots of sex and drugs and rock ‘n’ roll.
Sorry for crashing the thread, here, but I couldn’t help it.
Maybe because cohabiting opposite sex couples are subject to speculation, too?
Everyone is assumed to be straight until further notice. As was mentioned earlier, no one bats an eye at heterosexual couples or when a boy character crushes on a girl, which happens all the fucking time, but if a character crushes on someone of the same gender, suddenly it’s “sexualizing” and “pushing an agenda”. No one makes a stink when fans assume a character is straight, but they sure do when they assume she’s gay.
People complain about “sexualizing” SpongeBob when the gay community embraces him, but nobody ever complains when fans pair him up with Sandy.
Why do the complaints about “sexualizing” characters only come up when homosexuality is involved?
Portcullised. But:
I’m not that au fait with the Muppets (apart from loving the immortal Muppet Treasure Island) so I’ve never actually seen Bert and Ernie. But I do think that very young children who aren’t the least bit interested in sex most certainly “get” intimacy and affection – hopefully they see it around them and live it themselves. When we went with daughterSpawn aged 3 or 4 (I forget) to visit a friend of ours who had moved to another city where he was living with his boyfriend, at the end of the evening everybody who was leaving (staying) kissed everybody who was staying (leaving) goodnight, and she solemnly informed us that it was time to kiss and go home to bed, and instructed our friend and his boyfriend to kiss each other and go to their bed (bed singular; besides we’d had the tour of the new flat and there was of course one bedroom and one double-bed). As far as she was concerned, that was just what grownup couples did. This has nothing to do with knowing or having any interest at that age in what grownup couples might do in bed; it was about affection and cuddling (she slept with her soft-toy monkey, we slept with each other).
So, um, I agree w Josh.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort | 12 August 2011 at 2:26 pm
I can’t agree. I’ve known too many parents who would simply teach their kids anyone with an unusual sexuality was automagically a child molester. That’s a horrible notion that makes it more difficult for children to tell who might be a threat to them, and it’s an awful defamation of many people.
There is a huge advantage to having a television show teach these things: It is public; it can be criticized more readily, more precisely, and more effectively. What the parents teach, on the other hand, is shielded by the “right” of parents to inflict up on their children whatever horrid fucked up ideology the parents are fucked up with. If the creators of children’s television shows feel they ought to say something about sexuality, they ought to be allowed to do so, if for no other reason than to make those views available for criticism.
That being said, I am convinced shows like Sesame Street bend over backwards to avoid saying anything about sexuality, other than ingrown het assumptions like “men and women get married and have kids, who knows why or how”. The overwhelming majority of those who think otherwise have been fearmongered into seeing gays under every bed, inside every closet, and behind every bush, and fearmongered into believing all sorts of horrible lies about gays.
mac
That whooshing sound you hear is the point escaping you.
This.
It’s kind of similar to “We shouldn’t teach kids sex ed in schools, we should leave it to the parents!” Unfortunately, a lot of parents are stupid and bigoted.
Not really, no. I’m just smelling some privilege and calling attention to it.
It’s spelled with a K at the end, by the way. I didn’t misspell my own name.
Spouse and I actually had a decent amount of this sort of weirdness when we bought our house and had a male friend rent one of the rooms for a while. It was a 3 bedroom house, and we certainly didn’t need all of them, and it helped us with the mortgage, so it didn’t seems strange to us at all to have a roommate.
But hoo-boy did we get lots of questions, weird looks, and generally uncomfortableness from people. Having people suddenly wondering if you’re a polyamourous deviant was strange. It was probably also bad because if we were in fact a group of those scary deviants, it’s the wrong kind of relationship anyway, since polyandry is super-duper-not-Mormon.
llewelly:
I’m totally with you, but public television is already under so much fire for being, well, public television, that I can’t imagine that PBS would last very long in our current political and social climate is they did introduce a gay couple on Sesame Street.
Remember the shit fest that happened when the muppet Kami was introduced on the South African Sesame Street? She wasn’t even on the American version, but OMG, an HIV+ character! They must be promoting a “certain lifestyle”!
*shakes head*
Bert and Earnie.
Brownian | 12 August 2011 at 5:14 pm :
Become a registered member of the Republican party.
Madarab:
No! The hell you say! I mean, wow, gosh, we had no idea! Really.
Mak (sorry)
The question was “Why do they feel the need to sexualize them at all? How is it any or your business or pertinent to the respective TV shows?
And it is Gretchen Carlson on Faux news who first came up with the Sponge Bob is the gheys trying to turn our kids ghey idiocy IIRC.
She has also decided that sponge bob is trying to promote the “myth” of global warming.
Hail tpyos. Make that or into of.
Sounds like you got some quality neighbors, there, if they think polyamory is some sort of nasty freaky thing.
Wait, they assumed you were Mormon, too?
I’ll tell you what I’d do if I had a million dollars. Two chicks at the same time.
But seriously, polygamy should be legal.
Take this case for example:
1. It’s consenting adults, and they’re not harming others.
2. At least the dude is living with them and supporting his kids. If he instead traveled all over the country getting women pregnant without marriage and having kids he couldn’t afford to support, that would be perfectly legal but worse.
3. The criteria in the law which distinguish between the above cases are that he lives with them and calls them his wives. But the courts have held that people have the right to live with whatever consenting adults they please (e.g. it would be legal if he was in the same situation but calling them “tenants” and charging one penny a month). And the first amendment protects his right to call them “wives”.
4. They’re not even seeking state recognition for their marriage — just the right to be left alone. But I think the government should get the hell out of the business of being the arbiter of personal relationships and not recognize any marriage — though people could still choose to sign an explicit contract specifying the sharing of property and procedures for the dissolution of such an economic union.
On the pronouncing of punctuation. (potentially NSFW if riotous laughter is frowned upon)
Brownian, the person that makes the rules has the knowledge of when to appropriately ignore them. Those that aren’t able to distinguish are the reason they (rules) exist. If they have trouble with the concept, tell them that that is the point. Then fire the next one to step out of line.
@Mak, as you’re not a regular, you’ll not know that I’m a resident of the greater Salt Lake City area. So hell, yes, they assumed I was Mormon. I’m Caucasian and married to a man, so automatic assumption.
And I’m not just talking about my neighbors here. I’m talking about acquaintances, people I work with, some of roommate’s family members, etc.
Utah is a weird place and Salt Lake is just a slightly less weird place than most of it.
Dhorvath:
Love the name – I enjoyed that thread far too much.
Therrin:
I had completely forgotten about the existence of Victor Borge – I hereby thank you.
Brownian:
I have this problem all the time in day-to-day life; people are just unwilling to accept their evident inferiority. Sadly I have no suggestions, as O do not wish to condescend to your level.
With respect to same-sex couplings, while using same-sexed examples, brought up because people assume some characters are gay. Yet no one complains if an ambiguously-sexual character is assumed to be straight, or paired into a straight relationship. Because everyone is assumed to be straight until further notice (by straight people).
Sometimes it’s nice to think that maybe those characters you like could be gay just like you. Especially since overtly gay characters are pretty god-damned rare, while straight folks have no shortage of overtly straight characters to identify with.
“SpongeBob will make you gay!” is a made-up conspiracy theory. Loads of people in the gay community still genuinely embrace SpongeBob. The point being that gay Spongebob = sexualizing, but straight SpongeBob = okay.
You know, growing up, it never occurred to me that Bert and Ernie could be lovers. That came much later in life, although by then I had other things to worry about. It’s never been something that’s bothered me. I knew that in spite of their differences, those two cared about each other. That was what mattered to me the most, I think.
I didn’t really start noticing that I would wonder if two people living together were lovers until I was a teen. Then life started going to work on me, and at some point, I woke up with a “Well, does it really matter as long as no one’s being hurt?” attitude. Nowadays, I just think, “Huh, nice to see two people who can get along well enough to share a place.”
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Well, this is a little embarrassing. Erm, would anyone happen to have any ideas on paying for college…that doesn’t require your GPA to be high? I….*blushes* mine took a dive in my senior year. Dad dying, my own lack of maturity and all that. Looking back, maybe taking the year off after he died would have been a good idea.
Anyway, it turns out I just may have a chance to complete my degree, albeit via classes at a local university. No way can I afford to move back to RI and finish it there. I’m in touch with the head of the Languages department – who happens to be the same guy who was in charge when I was a student. (Can I be honest and say it’s a little cringe-inducing when an old professor reveals he seems to recall your name when you know that you’re talking to him about something that should’ve been done with years ago?).
To make things more complicated, the kindergarten teacher is pregnant. As if the school needed another reason to depend on me. The lady who’s going to fill in while she’s on leave is in her eighties, former teacher, and I just know they’re going to say it’s good for me to be there because I’ll be the on who’s familiar with the kids and it’s better for them to have one person they know in the room. I was hoping to get out of the place before the school year starts; I think I’m pretty much stuck. And I don’t want to be. Dammit.
Hell of a time for me to find out I could complete my degree, with the economy tanking and all.
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On a different note, I’m really starting to like seltzer water. Flavored and unflavored. I haven’t really wanted soda since I began drinking seltzer more often.
Fair warning: quick stop by just scanned.
Why does anyone think an HIV+ character, in any African version of Sesame Street, would be a big deal? HIV is a predominately heterosexual disease throughout most of Africa isn’t it?
Heh?
polyandry
*sigh*
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‘Tis #23
They may not be gay but they sure are married :-)
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Skepgineer
How do you feel about polyandry?
Brownian, I’m afraid if you were in any way cooperative with The Man in creating said idiotic bureaucratic policies, I can’t help you in your quest to evade them.
Indeed, in the standard fashion required of all dead-eyed corporate lackeys*, I believe my role here is now to ensure that cameras and a 24 hour manned monitoring station are installed to ensure that you do follow them. To the letter. Three times hourly. While held underwater by several burly stevedores. And if any of your fellow employees of similar mind ask which way you went, I’m telling them.
Yes, it’s petty, and it’s bitter, and in its deep, baleful hatred of this pointless, miserable evil for which you have served as midwife, will ultimately only serve to guarantee its continued survival–and indeed growth to ever greater heights of evil…
… Which is exactly the point, and exactly the way we play Corporation™.
(*/And no, you can’t have that for a band name. But if it’s any consolation, as much as I want it, I can’t either. Head office patented it in perpetuity the moment I said it, I’m afraid**.)
(**/Policy, see.)
Ahhh… That does explain a whole lot. I was getting worried that they were going ‘three people living together > polygamy > Mormonism’ which would’ve been a slightly different can o’ worms.
Yuuuuck. They’ve lightened up by now, I hope?
As opposed to the lesser-spotted real conspiracy theory, I presume.
Being that sponge bob is a sponge in a children’s cartoon, I see no reason to assign him a sexual orientation or preference.
In other words, its projection.
@Mak, it’s not so much that they’ve lightened up but that roommate no longer lives with us, so it must have been innnocent after all. *shrug* The religious climate in Salt Lake isn’t an issue…until it is. There are whole days that go by that I don’t notice or think about the cultural/religious biases that affect how stuff works around here, and then there are days where I just want to light everyone on fire.
Brownian, on work rules and policies, simply point out that since the Brownian helped make the policies, when the Brownian does something, it is according to the policies that apply to the Brownian.
If they were Brownians, the policies that apply to you would also apply to them, but due to their lack of Brownianess, they must stick to those other policies.
Mak, Sorry about my ‘nym change, couldn’t resist.
I put peanuts in the shell out on the deck for the squirrels, but all four of the Downy woodpeckers are hauling off with them. Heh.
Audley Z. Darkheart OM, purveyor of candy and lies | 12 August 2011 at 5:43 pm :
No matter what they do, I don’t think PBS has many more seasons left before the Republicans manage to manufacture a scandal that cons the Democrats into throwing PBS under the bus. If Sesame Street introduced a gay couple, they’d get shot down for doing something good, rather than for something they didn’t do at all.
The recent attempts to defund PBS and NPR have already shown that bending over backwards to not offend the right wing is no longer a safe strategy; NPR plays false balance to the benefit of the right all the time, and yet the right still strives to destroy them, and has come close to doing so several times. Servility is not safety.
Kind of ironic, usually it’s the squirrels stealing from the bird feeder.
Brownian,
Dress flamboyantly. Nothing says “I’m not subject to your petty rules” like a silk-lined cape, for example.
Is anyone going to be watching Terra Nova? All I know of it are the previews I’ve seen on Hulu…not that I need something else to watch on Hulu, given my limited wireless, but it does look intriguing.
Cartoon characters never have orientations? Or is it because of the sponge thing? There’s an awful lot of boys crushing on girls (and vice versa) in cartoons, including gendered anthro-inanimate-object characters, but people rarely bat an eye at that.
I hear the “it’s a children’s cartoon” thing all the time. It only EVER comes up when gay people are involved.
Yes, that’s pretty much what I said.
The problem is when people suddenly see it as a problem when homosexuality is involved, even though they don’t complain when heterosexuality is involved. ‘Cause projecting heterosexuality onto people is “normal”, yanno.
MFHeadcase:
Beautiful. :D
Slignot:
Ahhh. Sorry to hear all that, especially the last bit. Can totally relate, there.
You obligated to read this article on Christian privilege.
Therrin:
Aaw, it’s not stealing, I put food out for the squirrels and the birds. And the chipmonks. It’s a feasty time at Chez Caine. At least the Blue Jays haven’t shown up today, the peanuts would be gone like *that*.
Caine:
Not knowing what Terra Nova is, I googled it and was given a tent manufacturer in Derbyshire. I think it’s safe to say that it’s not compulsive viewing.
Brownian
Is your Fringe thing before Monday?
After Sunday, I’m gone for two weeks.
“a silk-lined cape’
why did we ever stop wearing capes, they’re so cool. Why is it that no one seems to be able to rock a cape since James Brown?
‘polyamory”
love to hear that word. Need more of it in this world.
WOO-HOO! On our way to the bookstore to pick up The End Of Christianity Naughty M. stopped and bought me…
A HARLEY!!!!!
Woo-hoo!
So it’s a loud book?
Congratulations! Have fun.
Loud book, right. PFFFFT!
Perhaps this is why people don’t wear capes anymore.
No Capes!
Patricia,
Very evocative.
llewelly:
And, of course, you are right.
*sigh* It’s a depressing state of affairs.
sandiseattle | 12 August 2011 at 6:39 pm :
They were phased out in the expectation that jet packs would make them obsolete.
Yes, the sound of a loud book taking off. ;)
Yep, when I was watching the 300 it was just for the capes.
Feh. You know what they say about rest and the wicked.
A fucking WHA??!
Le Havre en Chêne, it’s a tv show on Fox, which I don’t get.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Nova_%28TV_series%29
I has a cloak, a full length wool one. It’s nice in cold weather.
Patricia, WOOHOO! That’s a nice naughty Marvin you have there!
What???? I can’t hear you?????
Brownian: get a consultant in to recommend what you want to do. Ensure the consultant is paid enough that management listen to him/her.
Gotta tell ya, it sounds cool on paper, but chickens do not make good pets.
Oh come on, this one is much quieter than those old beasts I have out in the garage. The nice thing about it is it’s always been woman owned, and it’s been lowered twice. Can’t wait to get it home!
If you want them to ever settle down two chicks aren’t enough, you need at least six.
You say *I can’t hear you* it’s appropriately quiet and fits the fair sex?
*Dang. shakes head, that 85 dB hood noise outside my office is effecting my hearing*
Patricia,
I am excited for you. New toys are great. I just thought it a funny juxtaposition with going out book shopping.
Mak
I understand and completely agree with your point about hetero-normative cartoons.
The point I am making is that it is inappropriate to project any sexual subtext into a childrens cartoon. I never wondered or cared about Bert and Ernies intimate details as a child.
As an adult, I consider it inappropriate to speculate about and judge other adults intimate relationships.
Its just not anybody else’s business.
Here’s to a world where sexual preference becomes completely unremarkable. Cheers!
Dhorvath – It was a great suprise, I thought I was just going to get a book. Thanks, I’m excited too.
*le twirl*
No, I hear chicken helps keep pest population down.
But what if those Chick’s given name was Jack?
I would duplicate except, New Madrid Fault. ;(
Still six.
That fault would take all the joy out of twirling. Maybe you could try squirrling unstead?
Why? Children have real-life experience with romantic couples on a regular basis, including their parents and relatives, the friends of such, their teachers, neighbors, etc. It’s hardly inappropriate if it’s a normal part of life and done tastefully, as has been done with overtly heterosexual couples all over the place.
Many cartoons on, say, Cartoon Network have married, cohabitating parents with biological children. That’s overtly heterosexual. In at least one of them, two of the characters constantly fawn over and attempt to gain the affections of another (opposite-sexed) character. That’s overtly heterosexual.
Nobody seems to have a problem with that, though. It’s just when the gay couplings come about that there’s a problem, so non-straight kids (and adults) are left with a serious dearth of characters they can relate to. But when they try to make their own, they’re “sexualizing” characters. It’s lose-lose.
Good for you?
Hear, hear.
I wear a cape, or as I call it, a cloak (sounds more medieval-ish), a nice warm black woolen one with a velvet collar. Dear Husband bought it for me years ago and I love it. I wear it in any cool weather, three seasons.
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Patricia, oh boy, what a wonderful gift! Get a scarlet-lined cape to wear streaming out behind you…!
Miss Piggy’s thing for Kermit is canon, so Muppets do have romance.
The Redhead just came in, and implied “feed me”, so off to the local family restaurant. Can’t complain too much, as less than $25 with 25% tip.
So lucky! *jealousy*
Aaagh. It seems like every time I talk to anyone at my school, they’re making life harder for me.
1. In order to maintain an assistantship, I have to keep my GPA above 3.5. Minimum graduation requirement is a 3.0.
2. Full time status is 9 graduate-level credit hours. My department requires 12 credit hours per semester. (That doesn’t count the courses we teach.) That’s right: four graduate-level courses per semester, plus teaching.
3. I have to be available to work during semester breaks. That means I have absolutely zero time available to visit family, etc, even over the winter break, unless I petition for an unpaid leave of absence.
And I can’t afford an apartment. Seriously. I have no idea where I’m going to live.
Tell me again why I’m putting myself through this?
Gyeong Hwa @ 75: funny liked it
Muppets?
Sam & Friends – Where Hunger Is From
PBS ran afoul the US Secretary of Education a few years back for having Postcards from Buster drop in on a lesbian family. The episode was pulled from the series run, but my local station did show in a later time lot and I think one or two stations may have shown it in the regular slot.
It was in no way in your face and would totally whoosh beyond almost every kid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcards_from_Buster#Controversy
Congrats, Patricia! Have fun! I’m not the Harley type myself, but I am seriously contemplating getting myself an Aprilia for my %0th b’day. Or maybe a Triumph. I need to decide soon, but annoyingly I’m not well enough to go out for test rides. grr argh.
Cath,
You can’t even pillion?
Aw that is sad. This is why love spending time with my lesbian friends. I can always depend on them to take me somewhere fun until they go off to
slaverymed-school.Finally, Francine is back home! She’s got her new clutch in with all the correct parts, her timing adjusted, and her carb re-carbed (or whatever).
Holy shit-it’s literally like driving a brand-new car. I can actually accelerate that big ass boat in third gear up a hill. Woot!
Congrats on the Harley, Patricia! Wow, that’s awesome of Naughty M.
Triumphs are great bikes. They usually run really well. Unlike, ahem, Harley’s…. The economy over here is so awful Naughty got a real sweet deal on the bike.
Wow! Congrats to Patricia & Josh, our (*ahem* if I may say so) Queens of the road!
strange gods wrote:
What about Wayne & Wanda? Were they a couple, or did they just perform together?
GH:
Stupid friends. Who do they think they are, daring to continue their education when we need our entourage?
Ba-dum, ching! :))) But see, I’m super butch cuz I know how to work on carz n stuff. Or maybe not. .
@Patricia: YAY for the new bike. Never owned a Harley but hey, any bike is better than none. And I am madly in love with my Honda NT 700 anyway.
It really sucks not having access to TET during the workday. I get so far behind I can’t ever catch up. Too much going on in meatspace.
I may have found an apartment. More than I want to pay, but it DOES have a garage with access to the apartment without going outside. A definite plus in NJ winters! The landlord lives on the first floor and I’d be on the 2nd. Cat can come with me and 3 bedrooms means the POD can be returned and I can use 1 room for storage and save a little that way.
Dealing with money matters, divorce paper work, and life is nuts enough. So I just HAVE to complicate things be getting into a “relationship” of sorts with a senior officer at work. Tell me again WHY I am doing this?
Good night sweet TET. I’ll look into you again in the morning.
I did it!
I just sent off my application for a postdoc position in Zürich – three days before the deadline!!! Woohoo!
(Admittedly, waiting longer would have been difficult. But not impossible.)
And then I caught up!!! (With the FtB subthreads, that is.)
:-}
^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
Please explain.
:-o
Please let me give you this internet I just made out of lavender cookies.
:-) :-) :-)
It’s lovely, except for the last panel, which is, well, familiar.
(…OK, I still haven’t understood what’s supposed to be so great about licking each other’s oral cavity out. But I suppose that’s just me. *shrug*)
:-D
Final fortition strikes back!
Once the gangs saw that the police didn’t do anything, they started looting.
Of course. As always, it’s an “all else being equal” study.
Neither do I. Each thread then lacks comments – and commenters – that the other sorely needs.
Why do you sneer instead of simply shutting up?
I’ve never understood the need some people have to tell everyone “O hai, I’m grumpy today! And did you know I’m grumpy?”.
You mean because of my attention to detail? :-)
*snortle*
Rāmen!
!!! !!! !!!
!!! !!! !!!
!!! !!! !!!
My hope is back :-)
…oooookaaaaaaaaay…
Day saved. :-)
HA HA! IE can deal with it! Even with 1000-thread comments! :-Þ
:-o
Sili… the violence fantasies… it’s not just you.
That’s how it’s pronounced, but the accent isn’t written and wouldn’t be necessary anyway.
So that’s what a descent into madness looks like. Fascinating.
You’re scaring me about my future. :-)
Uh… wait, wait, wait. I can’t believe that was an ordinary goldfish. When a living being freezes, ice crystals form in the cells and pierce them, killing it, unless special tricks are involved, like antifreeze proteins and temperatures just below freezing*, or cells full of glucose, pro-freeze proteins outside the cells, and winter temperatures**. Sure, a goldfish dropped in liquid nitrogen would freeze so quickly that lots of very small ice crystals would form, but could they really be small enough, and could the water expand little enough upon freezing, that no damage occurred?
* Icefishes.
** Woodfrog (North America). 2/3 of the animal turn into ice, and every cell survives the winter on its own, in isolation, full of glucose as antifreeze and food. In spring, the frog thaws and walks away.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
You can. It’s not forbidden.
I feel like way too many people treat economics as an art instead of as a science – as if applying the concept of “evidence” to the economy were some kind of fundamental category error.
I’ll steal “alternative orifice”, though. :-D
Seconded.
*cocoa shell tea with rooibos, vanilla, and I forgot what else*
That’s how they’re worn over here. They’re called “ski bananas” because they’re banana-shaped, often yellow, and next to exclusively worn while skiing.
Aren’t most of them just compounds?
:-)
<span lang=”pl”>O Jejku!</span>
(Baby Jesus in the vocative.)
QFT!!!
I came up with one and a half. Then I had to stop, because it was getting too horrifying.
That was Paul the Apostle who emphasized that Jesus was dead, dead, dead over even the resurrection. The whole “we who are baptized on His name are baptized on His death” thing is his.
There have of course been cultural influences from everywhere on Christianity, but most of them have stayed in their regions of the world. Germanic god-sacrifice reaching Egypt is not likely.
Awesome! :-) :-) :-)
That at least explains how the semester can end together with the calendar year…
Besides, I overreacted. The winter semester starts on Oct. 1st in Austria, and the university year starts on Nov. 1st in France, but the (non-tertiary) school year in Austria starts in mid- or early September (depending on the region), and that’s after 9 weeks of summer holidays… the poor Germans only have 6 weeks of summer holidays, so their school year probably starts in August… doesn’t it?
That isn’t intonation (and Josh is talking about intonation), it’s tone. In tone languages, every syllable consists of consonant(s), vowel(s) and tone. For instance, in Mandarin, Hàn with an inbuilt exclamation mark are the ethnic Chinese, while Hán with an inbuilt question mark are the ethnic Koreans…
Hmong has 6 tones, I think. Mandarin has only 4, they differ in contour rather than pitch alone, and they don’t influence each other much. Mandarin is probably the easiest tone language to learn if you don’t already know one.
Korean lacks tones. Japanese has pitch accent, which means the stressed syllable of a word has one of several tones, and the pitches of the other syllables in the word are predictable. (Only a few Japanese words, sez Wikipedia, do actually differ only by this feature, though.) Several European languages are pitch accent languages: Swedish, Norwegian, some Danish dialects, Lithuanian,
SerbocroatianBCSM… Ancient Greek was one, too.*hug*
(And most or all neighboring countries.)
Takes way too long, and the wound hurts. How about jumping down somewhere tall?
*snortle* :-D
*hug*
ARGH!
Seconded.
No idea. I do know, though, that some hate TNG…
IMNSHO, Enterprise is the best yet. Two reasons: first, the unfair advantage of hindsight – all the obvious mistakes have already been made, so people were able to learn from them (or at least make fun of them, see seatbelts); second, it’s from a sane epoch. TOS was all about the bright, shiny future which followed several nookular wars and stuff; Voyager was the backlash to this, where everything is depressingly dark and the technical gadgets fail all the time; Enterprise is sane at last, and has all the fun and fascination of exploration in it.
Yes – it’s just that I, for one, actually mark the logical structure in intonation. (And this despite German being one of the least musical languages out there.)
The areas where intonation is variable are the ones where the punctuation rules differ between languages. Bjarne uses the German comma rules; have you noticed?
:-)
I’m not capable of eating only sweet stuff all day long. But I’m eating chocolate right now :-)
(…And no, eating chocolate with too high cocoa/too little sugar content is not an option.)
Besides, not even all asexuals are aromantic, and that includes plenty of little children who later grow up to be ordinary sexual beings.
Senegal has found an interesting solution. At their first marriage, husband and wife are required by law to state if the marriage is supposed to be mono- or polygamous. If the latter, additional wives* can be added later; if not, not. I don’t know details, but this sounds like informed consent…
* Obviously, polygyny is traditional there (a man has as many wives as he can afford), and polyandry is not; I don’t know if the law specifies this.
Thanks, later (…Monday at the earliest).
:-D
LOL!
Triskele-will be seeing you soon, with Francine in top form as you commanded!
Have you considered renting out one of the bedrooms to a roommate?
Also, you’re really stupid to be dating a guy at work, but you knew that. :))
David:
Why should I put up with such treacly pap without comment?
Flawed inference.
Quodlibet, I loves my cloak too. The full length wool is better than a coat when it’s windy and cold here, which is a major amount of the time.
John:
You don’t have to put up with anything. However, as you are well aware, once it’s out there, anyone and everyone can have an opinion about it.
It does highlight your assholery, John, and your dislike of all of us lesser humans. If we ever get a killfile for this joint, I suggest you use it.
Apropos of nothing, ever, I’ve been educating myself about women’s genitalia. Not encountering it very frequently (ever) and all, you know.
Facts Surprising to SpokesGay:
1. The anus and vagina (yes, the actual vagina, not just that whole region) are very close together on many women.
2. The clitoris and vaginal opening are so varied from woman to woman it can be hard to find them.
Josh:
It’s not hard to find them. Really. They’re right there at the top and if one finds themselves lost, the woman will be more than happy to point out where it happens to be. :D
Caine, I should have been clearer. I meant it can be difficult for a third-party to locate them visually in some cases. :)
Caine, your suggestion suggests you’re unaware of my opinion regarding killfile. :)
I’ll catch up later
but
Harley Davidson and Triumph Bonneville
John, no. It’s winter, it’s cold, I have respiratory trouble – chest infection, and new adult-onset asthma. My asthma is not responding very well to the usual drugs, so I’ve just switched preventer meds again, and the doc has ordered in a bunch of tests for atypical pneumonias and some other stuff. Cold air is best avoided right now.
Anyway, the point of a test ride is to see how comfortable it is for *me*. I guess I could go to the shops and just sit on them in the showroom, to get the feel of seat height & riding position.
As to the muppets, I’m with Josh et al – if muppets can be *married* then you have already given them a sexual orientation. It’s too late to claim that they’re asexual. So, heh, Burt & Ernie being gay is just kinda cute and why not?
One interesting phenomenon is how this intersects with sexism. So many children’s stories (books, TV etc) have lots of boys and maybe one girl. Smurfette syndrome. Princess Leia. How many girl muppets were there on original Sesame Street? But there’s the Count, and Oscar, and Cookie Monster, and Big Bird, and so on. By default all characters are male; and all animals are male – I’ve even seen cases where not only bees are male but also cows, FFS!
This makes it very easy to do slash pairings. There are so many options, so many canonical friendships that can be stretched a little bit, and so very few options for hetero pairs. Lulz as patriarchy shoots self in foot!
Josh:
Ooooooh! Okay. :D
John, I’m aware. However, if you don’t like hearing you’re an asshole because you don’t like the care we show for one another, and consider us lesser beings and don’t want to use a killfile, feel free to shut the fuck up.
No worries, Caine. I do so feel free.
Josh:
I stand corrected — our (Pharyngula Prom) King & Queen of the road!
John, why are you being such a draino douche?
Genghis – yeah, queen is funnier and better though. :))
Josh – when you get to the experimenting stage of your study, I’ll loan you my Harley and you can go to a biker camp out. You’ll get to see all the vaginas, in the wild state, that you’ll need to finish your work.
Josh OSG:
As well as an asshole?
I guess I’m just special. :)
Gengis – Queens of the road is really funny!
@Therrin:
Thanks for that link. Victor Borge is hilarious!
John, I know you like toying with trolls, as do I, but there are limits. Some just aren’t worth my time. It’s not about shielding myself from their stupidity, but about managing how I spend my time. It’s also useful just as a reminder. Once someone’s been dumped, I can scroll past their dribble more quickly, and I don’t have to try to remember every name I’ve come across who’s been irredeemably trollish at some time or another (or it will help me spot them if they’ve changed nyms). Obviously, if the conversation turns around what they’re saying, I can still disengage it to see their comments. If there is a downside, I don’t know what it would be.
Nothing says ‘macho’ like the word ‘ambiance’.
-someone on Men with Brooms
Good night sweethearts, supper and Candleford are calling.
Josh
I have always liked to explore vaginas orally – which requires up close and personal exploration – both visual and tactile!
I have to agree — proximity to anus has sometimes caused me to end a relationship before it really started (cleanliness may not be next to godliness, but it IS pretty important i this arena!)
Also – location of clitoris: consistently towards to the top* under its little safety blanket (it’s shy, you see). My job is to help it overcome its shyness (which I must say I have done to much applause over the years)!
*a location that does little to provide for clitoral stimulation during ‘hetero-normative sex in the missionary position’. No wonder Christian women are such strange creatures!
Note: regarding Patricia’s suggestion about the biker rally as a means of research – that would scare the bejeesus out of me!
‘smee:
Er…good for you and all that, but that’s not an option for Josh.
Oh Caine, now you’re just being testy. :))) I’m sure ‘smee understands why my explorations must remain in the visual, not lingual, realm. Name’s a dead give-away, ya know?
But. . .
Obviously you’ve never eaten ass. And that’s all I have to say on the subject. Ever.
Josh:
I do not have testes!
;)
Josh:
Rimmin’ too. Just sayin’.
Girl, I’m so tryin’ to keep meself reined in, and you’re not helping!
Caine
It could be.
If he treated it as a … scientific exploration.
anthropology…
sociology…
medicine…
yeah. more beer will fix this.
So, sort of like a pubic spelunking expedition? The kind of thing where I file breathless dispatches back to Headquarters over the telegraph?
Josh:
I’m sorry! Would it help if I said I suspect ‘smee never got xis redwings, either?
Start writing the screenplay!
Spielberg? are you paying attention?
Bwahahahahah! Stop it!
Jebus, ran off to the local restaurant with my reading glasses on instead of my trifocals (old fart eyes).
Nerd:
Might want to keep them on, we be talking nasty stuffs!
Carlos Zambrano is a giant tool.
/random sports reference.
Oh, oh, oh!
I stumbled on a culinary treasure trove at a yard sale today. Nine pamphlet cookbooks from 1940 through 1965 in perfect condition, many of them 4-color glossy. They have some travesties.
Examples:
1. “227 Recipes for Meals Without Meat”- sample recipe:
Pork Shoulder Rolls
Yes, “meat” means only “beef.” The whole thing is chock-a-block with chicken/seafood/pork stravaganzas.
2. “What Shall I Cook Today?: 124 thrifty, healthful tested recipes.”
Four-color illustrated promo piece for Spry Shortening™ . Cover features Standard 1940 Hetero Couple (Think Bryl Cream and finger waves) in comic book panel format.
Man: What delicious fried chicken!
Woman guest: Do tell me how you get your French-fried potatoes so crisp and dry?
Sample introduction excerpt:
“For Spry™ is such a vast improvement over ordinary shortenings. Even before you cook with Spry™ your own eyes will tell you how superior it is to ordinary shortenings. Spry™ is so much whiter, glossier, and smoother.”
3. “The Art and Secrets of Chinese Cookery”-circa 1958. Sample recipe: Hamburger Chop Suey.
Apropos of nothing, I am smugly proud to have comment #666 in the last TET.
Josh and Caine you are very naughty! I wonder how many people will be goggling redwings in the next 24 hours.
And I wonder how many will be earning them. . .
(!!!)
Hello everybody.
I have a confession to make. And is it ever embarrassing.
You see, I have special underwear that I keep on at all times. Yes, even when I am showering or bathing. And when…you get the idea.
It is not because I am a latter day saint. (I do not want Lynna to write about my moment of mormon madness.)
It is because I have to keep gravitymagnets on my body at all times. If not, I will find that the Earth will have moved on without me, leaving me to both asphyxiate and freeze in space. (Which would kill me first?) I have various gravitymagnets sown into my functional, non magical underwear.
It gets both itchy and heavy.
Does the hamburger chop suey call for a can of cream of mushroom soup?
I shall wade in the red river, but I will not drink from it.
So, you’re saying you’ll part the Red Sea, Chimpie?
Don’t forget hawwwwwt.
I have before and no doubt will again.
Goodness!
/odd titillation
Oh, Josh, you reminded me of when Nigel brought up scary food. I found a couple of shots from my last scary food cookbook from 1959: http://moblog.net/view/168854/yesterdays-treasure
One photo in the cookbook I didn’t take though, is of barbecue slaw in-a-jiffy, with this caption under the photo:
Aauugghh!
*The photo does not help.
I am what I am
And a pound of Velveeta, if I’m not mistaken.
ooooooof
Are there special reverse-magnet undergarments for use during, um, intimate relations?** You know, so you don’t stick together and stuff? Or if you do want to stick together, is it an electromagnetic with some sort of on-off switch so you can get de-coupled afterward?
*scratches head and tries to imagine it*
.
**only straight white male-on-female hetero christian missionary intimate relations, of course, done on Saturday night only, in the dark and under the bedcovers with no foreplay and no talking and for the purposes of procreation only so no lingering just get the job done
Oh my fuck, Caine. That asparagus poking out of meat is literally obscene. Shudder.
I’ve mentioned this before, but you may enjoy the Gallery of Regrettable Food. In all seriousness, I very nearly pissed my pants laughing the first time around (yes, I actually ran to the bathroom).
Velveeta, miracle whip, ranch dressing
The red headed step children of real food.
Rev. BDC:
Oh, you’re a…um, nevermind.
Janine:
Dearest, thank you for your sacrifice, in keeping us all safe.
Is it just me, or does that first photo on Caines link look like Mr Crab.
Egads, sliced hot dogs in formation on french bread?!
Here is a little ditty for our Queens of the Road. Why does it feel like I am being cheated on?
Tethys wrote:
Heh – my mother had a cookbook from the 70s with a recipe for ‘Chinese beef’ that called for a can of cream of mushroom soup. But I remember that it tasted pretty damn good, and that was pretty exotic by the ‘meat and 3 veg’ standard fare my family subsided on.
Would this be more to your liking?
I’m likely to have hamburger chop suey nightmares tonight.
I had a naked when i shouldn’t be naked one the other night. This stands to be worse.
Rev. BDC:
Seems to me we’ve had a chat about the red-headed cracks.
Signed,
A Redhead.
;)
You ain’t kiddin’.
Josh:
Oh, I know. That is some nasty food. Lileks has nothing on me, some of the food photos I have…
One of these days, I’ll take more shots and get them posted. Like the canned barbecue sauce slaw. *ugh*
Josh
James Lileks (the author of the regettable food site) has a blog too. *prods memory banks for the name*
I generally enjoy his writing.
Ok. We all know my fondness for bacon, and even a good hot dog for that matter.
But that’s just wrong.
You’re right. My bad. Sorry. It just sort of flows out. Which is not cool.
James Lileks cracks me up, no doubt.
I’m definitely throwing a 1950s Food party at the end of the summer in celebration of these culinary treasures.
Tethys:
Oh, you have no idea.
Rev. BDC:
Ooooh, do tell…oh, it was dream? Darn.
Jeezis. Has Hitchens volunteered to endure-then-report on that?
Ye, I have been inside the walls on the grounds of red wing…
… but what’s this ‘goggling’ thing? Just, y’know, in case it’s something I haven’t tried…
And what are the gear requirements, if any?
(/I mean, hey, goggles, I have…)
Yep me in all my 40 year old naked and hairy glory strutting down the street in mumble mumble city.
All of a sudden.
SHIT
I don’t have any fucking clothes on.
Hide in bushes
Get discovered
Run
make excuses
repeat
/Freud analysis
Josh:
Christ, I hope not. Talk about stuff that would kill you…
Honestly, who in the hell would mix heated, canned barbecue sauce with shredded cabbage and expect anyone to eat it? I can’t even figure out why someone came up with it in the first place. Starvation is not a good enough reason.
For anyone paying attention, it should not come as any surprise that this is my favorite motorcycle song.
No 60’s recipe is complete without Kraft™ Miracle™ Whip™ and Miniature™ Marshmallows™
Rev. BDC:
You are 13.5 years younger than me, and I happen to think you’re good lookin’, so there.
This is where you went wrong. Strut that stuff!
AJ:
Good for you. I’ve earned mine too. :)
I guess its more accurate to say Lileks has several blogs.
The Bleat is the one I had in mind. A sample from a review:
The Indistinct Men of No Particular Attributes make an appearance in the Twin Cities; perhaps they were translucent
Protestant church ladies. Methodist/Presbyterian women on the feed-the-bereaved committee. They’re demented. I know. I ate this kind of shit at potlucks, church picnics, and funerals growing up.
Also, aspic.
Josh:
Aside from all the cheeky fun folks are having with this observation of yours, I’ll note that it’s the subject of one of the more fascinating chapters of Mary Roach’s Bonk, which everyone should read right now if they haven’t already.
Roach tells of Princess Marie Bonaparte’s research into the effect of vaginal-clitoral distance on the ability of women to come during intercourse. Bonaparte actually had her clitoris surgically relocated… twice!
My inlaws make something called “Watergate Salad” for thanksgiving.
For those that don’t know (I sure as hell didn’t) it involves pistachio pudding, pineapple pieces, marshmallows and walnuts. /shudder
My wife was at this pre-christmas dinnerr party with my family and some of their friends. One of the gag gifts at this annual dinner praty was a 1970’s horrible cookbook with… Watergate Salad.
A friend of my mother’s made some snide comments (that if she hadn’t I probably would have) about Watergate salad.
My wife overheard, mentioned that her family makes it for Thanksgiving, thoroughly embarrassing the lady.
The next year at the same party, my wife made Watergate Salad and brought it for her.
/blush
Josh:
Oh Honey. I suppose you could be grateful you never encountered canned barbecue sauce slaw.
Aspic I know, saw it too many times growing up. Never got anywhere near it, let alone ate the stuff. *Ick*
Have you ever put coleslaw on a shredded barbecue chicken sandwich?
Delicious!
I find myself in the mood for bipolar music combos… and when in such a mood, I tend to inflict it on others.
The kinks vs. NIN,
Rev. BDC:
:muffles scream:
Sure. Provided that it is equal opportunity, and not only available to Studly D00dright and his stable o’ fillies.
–
They can’t divorce the disease from the sexual transmission thereof, and in the US at least, AIDS was initially perceived as a “gay” disease (and Scourge of God, created specifically for the purpose of killing off all the gays); it never occured to them that it could even be an issue with heterosexuals, which makes them uncomfortable with the idea of babies contracting HIV in utero. AIDS/HIV=Gay Sex=Blasphemy!!! (And besides, all sex is icky and wrong, except when especially sanctioned from On High.)
They have no feel for the scope of the AIDS/HIV problem, and they don’t want a feel for it. The only valid concerns are their concerns; all others can just suck it up. It is God’s Will.
–
Cath, I’d offer you a *hug*, but I don’t like the way the Evil MRSA is eyeing the computer. I suspect it of thinking that viruses get to have all the fun, and considering doing something about it.
–
“Your Intelligent Design Dollars At Work!!!”
–
Bill:
Anything Mary Roach writes is worth reading; she’s hysterical. She’s also a pen-pal of mine, having consulted with me on her book Stiff.
/Kwok
Hi, Triskele. :)
AVOCADO GREEN, the rutting stags demand.
I remember Chris Clarke did a pretty spot-on parody of Lileks’ blog once. It’s too bad he’s a right-winger.
Maybe you should come visit me in the south.
Tethys:
Is that the same as taking a casserole dish worth of shredded cabbage and pouring craptastic canned barbecue sauce, heated, over it, mixing and serving?
No? Didn’t think so.
;D
A comedian on Just for Laughs just said that canned poutine exists.
Motorcycle-Love & Rockets
The Ballad Of Easy Rider-Fairport Convention
No, really, cole slaw on pulled-meat barbecue sandwiches is divine, seriously. Not to be missed.
+20
Chigau:
It does, I’ve seen it.
My ex-laws make a jello/cranberry/mini-marshmallow/orange rind concoction for Thanksgiving.
Its actually quite palatable.
osh, Official SpokesGay | 12 August 2011 at 9:52 pm :
oh, Josh, you’re such a tease!
I don’t eat a barbecue sandwich without slaw.
It’s crucial.
raises hand
Josh @ 189, I know. I’ve known that for decades. It bears zero resemblance to barbecue slaw in-a-jiffy, however.
Oh lord, I want some of my own fried chicken now. Fryer parts soaking in salted buttermilk, then double-dipped in flour full of salt, black pepper, and garlic. Fried in hot fat until DELICIOUS.
Sigh.
Rev BDC wrote:
Makes me think of how fascinated I am whenever it’s Thanksgiving on one of the US tv shows that I watch, and the candied yams appear. To me that just so sounds so profoundly unappealing.
Then again, I’m from the country that’s home to Vegemite.
Rev. BDC:
Ummmm…
You’ve done that, but won’t get your red wings?
Caine:
Yeah. It’s the jiffy that spells trouble. Unless you’re talking about the cornbread mix, which rocks.
Actually, done well they aren’t bad.
Sweet potatoes/yams are an undervalued side item.
However “candied” anything can be overdone. If you do them right they are good. Too much sugar and no thanks.
Josh
Last night it was Quentin Crisp, tonight it’s Mary Roach.
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?????
no. never mind. bad form.
Rev.
Collard greens with vinegar and red sauce?
Baby lima beans?
Boiled peanuts?
Sorghum syrup on hot biscuits?
damn…now I’m hungry
well
yes
Wowbagger:
The way they’re done by a lot of people, yeah, they are profoundly unappealing.
I don’t care for candied yams myself, I prefer yams baked with a bit of butter and a healthy dose of Grand Marnier.
Hot barbecue sauce on cabbage sounds like the original hot mess.
Chigau:
I’m not really anybody, and certainly not a name you’d recognize. You can email me at spokes gay at gmail. I’m not exactly a mystery, but I do like to keep my Pharyngula frolics reasonably separated from my Real World stuff.
Rev. BDC:
Tsk, I say. Tsk.
Psycho
Psycho
Psycho Killer
Psycho Therapy
Psychotic Reaction
Josh:
Oh, so many jokes; so little time! ;^)
</jealous>
yes
yes
yes
yes
Had some boiled peanuts tonight as a matter of fact.
Thought unfortunately, not enough salt in the boil.
Will be going to my favorite BBQ restaurant (my photo in the background) and hangout for brunch this sunday with some friends in town.
Smoked brisket, two eggs over easy and grits with some fresh friend pork rinds and pimento cheese and baseball.
Yes that’s right.
I’m hungry thinking about it.
/sulk
My friends that just got into town brought me a hard drive that a buddy of theirs has.
he owns a “record” (does that mean anything anymore) store.
Everytime that a used CD comes in they copy it to the hard drive.
It’s 2 TBs.
I’ve never had a midnight snack craving come on so fast…and get struck down immediately. Pretty much what happened when I caught up with the thread. I also never knew that the red wings on a biker’s jacket could have had some meaning aside from looking cool.
Bed. Later. too tired now.
Bill, you just want me to have a desperate, ill-fated crush on your straight silver-haired daddy self. You want me to pine for your ass (or whatever) and write a whole bodice-ripper about it. Well Mr., I’m wise to your ways.
I prefer yams baked with butter, salt, pepper
and the GM in me.
How is the baseball prepared? *snort
‘
damn you ‘
or not
ok
beer and gin catching up
Slow and low
I posted one video that featured Marianne Faithfull. I have to post a song.
Sliding Through Life On Charm
It’s hard being Snoop D O double G
ok i’m going to have to apologize for that. Did not view that before hand.
Janine:
Uneasy Rider – Charlie Daniels Band
(Josh, does Francine have a peace sign, mag wheels, and four-on-the-floor?)
Good, wonderful gravy, ttch is an idiot.
Bill:
No. She has an immaculate vinyl interior, respectable chrome hubcaps with Plymouth insignia, and three-on-the-tree.
“Get in, get off, get out.”
–
I keep hearing/reading that vinyl is coming back.
–
Bill Dauphin, too bad Charlie Daniels turned into a reactionary asshole.
Josh:
Ash-blond, thank you very much!
Fag.
(cackling maniacally)
Galactic funk
Janine:
That’s putting it lightly. The man is a serious fundie, a la Chuck Norris.
cicely:
Speeding Motorcycle-Daniel Johnston with Yo La Tengo
OK, hi band.
Janine, perhaps this: http://youtu.be/g266Uwp6ZnI
That Watergate salad actually sounds quite nice if made with good quality ingredients, and served as a dessert. Pistachio mousse with pineapple etc? OK. Likewise Tethys’ cranberry and orange thing, and candied yams with marshmallows and all that. But who the hell thinks that these things are salads? Double You Tea Eff?!
Cath, I expect the Watergate Salad is one of those ‘me’ things, I love pistachios and pineapple, but I have a very hard time imagining them together. I suspect I’m a purist when it comes to those things…then again, maybe not. I find pistachio and chocolate to be an excellent combination.
Janine:
Yah, but I still remember that song fondly. In fact, I remember listening to it on the reel-to-reel tape deck of my father’s Scandinavian Modern style console stereo, in the living room of the suburban brick home my mother designed… where I also listened to Helen Reddy and the original cast album my dad brought home when he saw Hair on Broadway (while he was on a NASA business trip, of all things!). </70sFlashback>
chigau ():
The word polygamy is not gender-specific. It includes, polygyny, polyandry, and poly-both. It includes any sort of marriage to more than one person.
All forms of polygamy have the same moral status, of course. Any sort of double standard there would be idiotic sexism.
Cath
I think there was a prejudice against any vegetable matter that actually resembled its organic form.
Jello “salad” is a potluck staple in these parts.
Pistachio pudding NOT pistachios.
Bill
Delta dawn, whats that flower you got on? Could it be a faded rose from days gone byyyyyyyy?
70s flashbacks are contagious.
Danny the Dipshit came baaaaaaaaaaaack, only to flounce.
Well, Rev, right there is where I invoke the “if made with quality ingredients” clause.
Is it actually possible to make pistachio pudding without pistachios? The mind boggles, but I’m sure that BigPackagedShitSoCalledFoodMegaCorp can do it. They can make strawberry icecream without strawberries or cream, so they’re up to it.
Rev BDC wrote:
So, it’s like banana flavouring, i.e. there’s never been anything even vaguely resembling an actual pistachio involved in the process?
David Marjanović:
I quibble with Senegal’s law. Contracts are supposed to always be modifiable with the consent of both parties, regardless of what the original terms were. It is wrong to lock them into the monogamous type of marriage if they later change their minds.
Also, government shouldn’t recognize ANY marriage. Marriage should be a private matter. Hospital visitation, insurance carry-over, etc should be to whomever a person elects, not to legal spouses. Economic union of a couple should be a private contract which also specifies the terms for the dissolution of that economic union.
So in the future if you had a marriage consisting of 5 men and 5 women you might buy a group insurance plan that covers 10 people, each file separate tax returns, and register each other’s names with some kind of database of who’s-allowed-to-visit-me-when-i’m-unconscious-or-unable-to-consent.
70s flashbacks are contagious.
You do not want to get into a seventies flashback battle with me. Somewhere in one of the segments of the undead thread is me leaving many bodies in my wake when I dredged up the glop that is my musical childhood.
Janine:
Not battle, maaaaan: Peace! (Keep in mind that I’ve been flashing back to the early 70s… which is to say, the 60s, really.)
</Don’tBogartThatJoint>
Skepgineer #237
Thank-you so much for the vocabulary lesson.
I never would have known that without your help.
[/irony]
How do you feel about polyandry?
Oh no..not only are 70s flashbacks contagious, they are possibly lethal!! Seems in keeping with the hate and malice to all theme for the day/night.
*fricking inability to blockquote-glare*
Chigau:
Now, now. The idiot did say if he had the money (or xis way or whatever), it would be two chicks. Not women. Let’s not judge.
I mean, if one wants to set themselves up with hens, hey…
Ordered, thanks for the tip !
Me too.
Ride on the Peace Train
circa 1976
It’s easy:
<blockquote> Quotable stuff </blockquote>
Use preview.
Tethys:
You don’t need blockquote, just do this: :glare: :D
Time for some Norwegian black metal.
The Loss And Curse Of Reverence-Emperor
Progenies Of The Great Apocalypse-Dimmu Borgir
Caine
oh yeah
I forgot about the zoophilia (avephilia?)
—-
on another topic
Perseids!!
but it’s a full moon and cloudy :(
Tethys:
Oh, I was such a huge Cat Stevens fan, and was fucking crushed (and pissed) when he renounced (for >20 years!) his musical career. I had a chance to go to see him on (what turned out to be) his last tour before his conversion, and my ‘rents nixed it because they didn’t want me out driving that late!
If not the Peace Train, though, maybe The Caravan of Love, eh? When my wife and I were in London in the late fall of ’86 (our last stop on our winding way home from Korea), we saw the Housemartins perform on Top of the Pops on our hotel TV, and immediately went out and bought their album, London 0 Hull 4.
Is it Happy Hour yet?
Eventually I will figure out how to make all the tags work.
For now I copy/paste from scienceblogs. It’s slow.
Superstition
By the fabulous Stevie Wonder 1973
The First Cut Is the Deepest.
Chigau:
Avephilia? I don’t think that’s a word, but perhaps it should be.
Back when we lived in SLC, there was an idiot who broke into the aviary at the park and fucked a poor peacock to death.
Janis Ian was/is so good. I think I have her Between The Lines album memorized.
From Me To You
I love the alternate text thing. Tommy Smothers? *snicker
LOL at Bill. I listened to Rod Stewarts version of First Cut is the Deepest just before Stevie! Check out the lime green and lemon yellow shirt!
A peacock? People just disgust me sometimes.
I do not have time to throw you all into the doom of seventies nostalgia, I have to get to sleep soon. But I will release the crazy horses as a small taste of the damage I can inflict.
Tethys:
Yes. A male one, because the idiot in question thought the ones with the pretty plumage were the girl ones. :eyeroll:
Janine, heh, perfect!
Caine
jeeebus
peacockfucking
That must be a paraphilia all by itself.
Appearances can be so deceiving.
I point to peacockfucking and I point to ERV. That is all.
I have just been made aware that all of my Cat Stevens is on those big black plastic thingys.
and those needle thingys are very hard to find.
oh deer
the 21th century beckons.
sigh.
Remember when Mormons weren’t scary bastards.
And is that an Osmond in a cape?
JIMMY!
Chigau:
I seriously hope it isn’t. It was a teenager who did it, 15 or 16 years old, I don’t remember.
Chigau
Free Cat Stevens downloads on youtube.
I’ve got Tea for the Tillerman on CD, but thats it.
Rorschach:
Yes, and a lack of education so revealing.
Tethys:
Tommy Smothers definitely went and played with John and Yoko during the famous bed-in. I don’t know for sure whether that’s the back of his head in that picture, but it might well be.
Speaking of Janis Ian and Tommy Smothers, here she is at 16 (not At Seventeen) playing her first hit on the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. Letting a 16-yo white girl sing about her black boyfriend was precisely the sort of thing that made the Smothers so controversial.
BTW, the Smothers Brothers were actually great musicians who put out at least one “straight” album of traditional folk songs, but it’s hard to find anything other than their comedy stuff online. It seems to me that this bit fits the crowd here!
I read about the peacock and think “you sick fuck, birds have cloacas , the anatomy just doesn’t work…”
But then I stop myself from trying to make sense of crazy
just cuz I ain’t done yet:
re: Janis Ian
The first Janis Ian song I heard was Seventeen.
I was (according to google-info) 20 years old.
I thought it was a whiny, self-pitying, sucky-baby piece of shit.
Ever since, even though I can appreciate her talent (genius, even), that first impression warps my enjoyment.
Run Joey Run
I had no idea Glee did this. A couple of years ago, I could find only one upload of the song.
How Do You Do
I am afraid that when I am old and have lost my mind, I will be muttering the chorus over and over.
Tethys, it is not just the capes. It is the Edwardian outfits, feathered hats and what ever the lead singer was wearing.
Mormons has always been scary. We were just too young to realize it.
It’s cool.
Bestiality is complicated because of the difficulty of communicating consent. Fucking a monkey that knows sign language and consents would be alright. A horse? Probably not. Body language is not reliable.
BTW “chick” is not a bad word. Lots of women call themselves skepchicks. I wouldn’t use it generally due to the possibility that people might take offense, but I was quoting office space FFS.
Chigau
How about Chi Coltrane?
I will not dance
No whining or self-pity at all.
In the mood for this :
Where the Wild Roses Grow
Or maybe this :
Brokeback Mountain Something gotta hold of my heart
Chigau:
When I first heard that song, I was a “whiny, self-pitying, sucky-baby piece of shit”; I fucking loved it. Plus, there’s that voice.
And she’s still got it.
Oh, Janine: Not Crazy Horses, but Wild Horses.
It’s cool, and that’s a stupid question because I already defended polygamy and stated a non-gender-specific definition of polygamy (which OED agrees with).
For some reason, Run, Joey, Run made me think of this.
I think this is a microcosm of the 70s. Golden Earring on the Midnight Special. Introduced by Little Richard!? Get a load of the long haired freaky people. Radar Love
Bill Dauphin
when I first heard the song I was an ugly, skinny, spotty outcast.
and I still thought it was whiny and sucky.
Just ‘cuz someone way upthread mentioned aspic.
And related to that, who are these women?
Tethys
Chi Coltrane
much better
Chigau (@283):
De gustibus…, eh?
The universe has flipped.
on Jay Leno now is a band whose lead singer is NOT singing in English.
Oh, my. Bill Dauphin
“who are these women”
I have one of their albums. on black plastic.
Why I love these YouTube jags we sometimes go on: A new version of an old favorite song.
It’s just a short step from Maggie, Terre, and Suzzy to a true musical dynasty.
Bill Dauphin:
I’ll see your aspic and raise you some Peaches.
Bill
Im actually a little shocked at how many of these old protest songs are so on topic for our current time.
“They’ll tell you that the darkness, is a blessing in disguise.
For you never have to notice, if you’re sighted or you’re blind.
And they’ll do their best to keep you from the light.”
Enjoyed the “Gnus will knock you to you gknees, so you need a gknife.” But mostly I remember the yo-yo tricks.
And Chi Coltraine deserves much wider recognition, so I will bid all goodnight with my favorite from Let it Ride.
Myself To You
For the ball-breaking feminists occupying the endless thread: World Without Men
One more, and then off to bed: You may have heard Waylon Jennings’ version of it, but I heard Deep In the West and a whole lot of other great songs by the Shake Russell Band in their “native habitat,” played and sung by the man himself, in and around Houston in the 70s and 80s.
‘Night, all….
Skepgineer, yes, but your first post on the subject was based entirely on justifying polygyny specifically, without any mention that polyandry even exists. Surely you can see why we would want to clarify?
Janine, The Little Top Of Venom, OM | 13 August 2011 at 1:02 am :
auuug. Those lyrics should have been left in the original Norwegian. Or at least translated by somebody who could count.
Threadizens may appreciate this nice turn of phrase from another context:
Moar music (a tradition on TET I like seeing the return of) :
Gary Moore – Whiskey In The Jar (From “One Night In Dublin: A Tribute To Phil Lynott”)
And on that note, WTF ? Gary Moore died ?
Yeah about 6 months ago – I had the pleasure of seeing him play with Paul Rodgers at the Albert Hall. The man is certainly a guitar legend.
Good morning Threadizens! I really, really miss the thread. It’s so hard to catch up when you can only check it in the evenings, especially when DDMFM posts. Although that is wonderful, because he pulls so many threads together!
@Josh: yeah, I know it’s stupid. Sent you an email. :)
Hooray for a wonderful running Francine. Can’t wait to see her. I’m starting to get mentally organized for the trip.
I may look for a roommate down the road. At the moment, I think I really need the time alone. And I may work from home more, using 1 room as an office and 1 room for storage, so really not room for another person at present plans. That could always change, though.
Love the youtube clips people are adding. Seems like old times.
Today is packing more boxes. Magazines will get taken to the town recycling along with old books I don’t want or read. Even so, I suspect I will have too many boxes of books…
Morning, Triskelethecat!!!
LOVE. I found a few boxes of those at a bookstore in Ithaca, but sadly the store knew what it was doing and had them priced at $5 each, so I had to pick and choose carefully. I got “Cooking with Dr. Pepper”, “Using Victory Points”, and “Cooking for your husband”.
At the Salvation Army last month I found the 1950 Better Homes and Gardens “Meat cook book”. :) Aside from the fantastic cringe-inducing photos and recipes, it has a quite useful quick-chart of meat cuts with the best ways to cook each.
Yeah, that was me.
Nevernude!
Lileks was actually the first blog I ever read on the internets, through the Gallery. I have no idea how I found it or why in the first place. Must have been in 2000 or early 2001, because Gnat was a wee gnat at the time. I read him regularly for a few years until the charming life anecdotes got crowded out by the conservative political essays.
@ Pharygufoodies
Well the lazy bread (No-Knead, for those too lazy to wade upthread.) came out really well. As it got out of the oven, two friends arrived from Australia, so I do not have anything left to show you all. I can just say that it goes realy well with Branson pickle, cheddar, tomato and cucumber I have started another, so hopefully pix tomorrow.
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“Whiskey in The Jar”: Always thought of this a as a kind of Pharyngula Anthem. Suggestions of pirates, booze, tentacles, swashbuckling … and Mollies.
Very prescient Mr Lynott.
Damn, the mouses are big this year. Dummkatz just brought in a honking fat one for me admire.
One of my cats has decided that mice are boring presents for me, and has taken to presenting me with dead rats and toads.
Bonne chance, Dottore Marjanović!
My French still sucks. Sorry.
–o–
I’d congratulate Josh and Patricia, but I’m an old grump, who’s just annoyed that you’re not paying $8.5 a gallon for petrol.
Dawn Davenport is eating a meatball sandwich right out in class, AND she’s been passing notes!
had redwings since I was a kid. Presented at a satans choice picnic a loooong time ago.
Distance from vagina to anus is the length of the taint
Take THAT
You are a very bad person.
Good news for modern man!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/12/judge-rules-little-rock-bus-line-wrong-to-deny-atheist-ads/
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Dhorvath, sorry, I would have answered sooner but I was out sailing;-)
And that is all I wanted to hear. Good for you.
DDMFM,
Woot! Good luck.
where there is a whip there’s a
way
to clean up your brain if you hit Rev BDC’s link
try our people
RevBDC: 100% awesome.
A comment I saw on another site “[Michelle Bachmann] makes Squeaky Fromme look like Margaret Thatcher! “
Rorschach:
♥!
Murder Ballads is one of my favorite albums of all time and, IMHO, the best of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. (But I think O’Malley’s Bar is the best song on the album.)
It was also the first gift I ever gave to Mr Darkheart.
Walks in singing
“I’m all out of faith. This is how I feel.
I’m cold and I’m shamed lying naked on the floor.
Illusion never change into something real.
I’m wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn.”
:)
Para lang sa’yo
Ako’y iibig pang muli
Dahil sa’yo
Ako’y iibig nang muli
Ang aking puso’y
Pagingatan mo
Dahil sa ito’y
Muling magmamahal sa’yo
Para lang sa’yo
:D
What an afternoon.
England have beaten India in the third test to confirm themselves as the the best test nation in the world.
And Brighton have just beaten Portsmouth 1-0 in football after saving a last minute penalty.
Babe I’m On Fire
From 500 Snacks-Bright Entertaining Ideas:
Whole hard-cooked eggs in this jellied tuna add a gay and decorative note.
Fire With Fire
Fire Woman
Okay, I really want a jellyfish tank. How fucking cool is that?
@Gyeong Hwa: perfect song for me today. Thanks for the inspiration.
On a high note: stopped at a farmer’s market and picked up dinner for me tonight: one small eggplant, one small zucchini, tomatoes, one ear of corn. Will chop them all up and saute with olive oil and garlic and throw in some shrimp. AND I get to use parmesan cheese which I don’t get to do when (soon-to-be) husband is here because he is allergic to it.
Having eaten lunch, back to putting stuff in boxes.
Audley,
DO WANT! But what would you feed the jellyfish?
triskelethecat,
You are welcome. Which song was it that inspired you?
I am drunk today, and I’m seldomn sober. A Handsome rover from town to town.
But I am sick now, and my days are numbered. Come all you young men, and lay me down.
loves
Okay, can I play too?
Jump in the Fire
Dhorvath,
Get Outta My Way.
I’m in Ottawa this weekend. Will let you know if I spot any madmen.
Says in the FAQ that they sell frozen plankton. The jellyfish are stingless, too! Soooo cool…
GH,
Entrancing. Want. I need to exercise more.
I kinda like stingless jellyfish, well, at least by comparison.
I’ve dove in the Caribbean with (as I recall) fleur-de-lis jelly fish. Not being stung is definitely better than being stung. Fucking man-o-wars damned near killed me. Twice.
GH:
Pre-packaged food, apparently. Considering that Jellyfish Art will ship you live jellyfish, I’m not terribly surprised that they’ll ship you the food, too.
Dhorvath,
You need soccer practice to get you back in shape.
My guess is it should’ve been
since it’s a quote from Office Space.
Hence The Shocker (“two in the pink, one in the stink”). Peaches has a song about it. Also very convenient for a little side snack when you’re eating.
<bragging>Got my red wings (both of them).</bragging>
On sexualizing cartoon characters, there’s of course Tinky Winky, the purple Teletubby, who’s always suspected to be gay. To which I’d say, yes, he probably is. So?
Actually, the Teletubbies were very well thought out in this respect: two were female, two were male, with one of the latter possibly homosexual. A lot of cartoons and children’s shows are male-heteronormative; all characters are straight males, unless otherwise required.
Smurfs, for instance. All blue and male. One of them is strong, one of them is a nerd, one of them is a farmer, one of them is a dandy, and one of them is female.
SpongeBob: only one female character.
Cars: just four six female characters that I can think of (Sally, Flo, Lizzie and Kori Turbowitz. And Mia and Tia, of course.
And so on ad nauseum.
As in a stupid joke I once heard
(I told you, it was a stupid joke.)
Caine, since I’ve been absent for a while, how are you doing? How’s your pancreas? (I tried searching the TETs I missed, but could not find anything).
Back in shape is a misnomer. I have never been in that kind of shape, I like food too much.
I had no idea jellyfish could be kept in the home aquarium. I always assumed they’d die during capturing or transport, being so fragile.
I’ve always bemoaned the fact that evolution has never provided us with a freshwater aquarium-sized octopus.
Just saw this article over at Friendly Atheist about a poor (atheist) guy who has no health insurance and suffered a pretty severe injury. I’m not in a position to help out myself at the moment, but maybe some of you can. http://www.giveforward.com/suddenstop
There’s already a Christian troll on FA saying that atheists are stingy so he better not expect much assistance.
[/another heartfelt thank you to Tommy Douglas and all the people who worked to give us universal healthcare here in Canada]
Good day on the Sound. No, EXCELLENT day on the Sound. I skippered the boat and we came in second on elapsed time. Since the boat that came in first was a 65 foot maxiboat which beat us by less than two minutes, our 39 footer won handily on corrected time.
The old man can still win races!
Ow fuck. s/steed/stallion/
theophontes, “Whiskey in the Jar”, isn’t really Lynott’s work, it’s an (Irish?) traditional. First version I ever heard was by The Dubliners.
RARRRR I HATE MAIL!
I told the post office to redeliver a package to me today because I’ve got no car and can’t DRIVE to the post office to pick it up. Today’s post is done and LO AND BEHOLD no package. So now I’ve gotta have them come next week – but it has to be Friday. Oh and I can’t get them to deliver it to the package room because it’s registered mail and I have to sign for it.
But I work in a place that it’s relatively well-known we work most of the day.
Grrrr…
Psst, Dhorvath, if I’m being too flirty you can call me out for it at any moment.
Katherine
I hate how they are hours late when you need the package. -_-
Congratulations, ‘Tis. Sounds like a great time!
GH,
You can shoot images of flexing pecs and cut abs at me all day. I love the look, I just don’t quite hit it. Sigh. As for flirty, whyever would I want you to stop? I love casual conversation like that.
Markita Lynda, healthcare is a damn right. #333
If you stay away from Parliament Hill and the Langevin Block, you should be pretty safe from madmen.
Ibis3 #342 how come you only have one french fantasy titty?
the link you provided is interesting but how does one vet such requests?
@Gyeong Hwa: Torn fit my morning quite nicely. Sorry I wasn’t more specific.
Done with boxes for today. Currently depressed. Only 1 1/2 book shelves empty with 2 boxes full, books on the floor that is a series missing 1 book (I HATE WHEN BOOKS GO MISSING!!!) so I won’t box them up till I find the missing book (or kill the child who most likely has it…).
Now to start stripping wallpaper. A change in pain leads to less pain, right? And it really needs to be done before my parents arrive next weekend to help paint.
I’ll be back later. In the meantime, because I love the Horde:
AACK! Borked the link somehow. Sorry, guys. Guess I missed something in my html…
My mind was blown by this comment over on the SB thread because it seems to me like it’s such a deep, subtle structural reason for the rise of anti-intellectualism in the US outside of the typical religious/conservative explanation over the last 30 years. I wanted to make sure Cerberus got the kudos she deserves.
SQB:
Fine, I guess. Had the cat scan on Monday, will find out more at a later date.
‘Tis:
Yay! Congrats, ‘Tis. Sounds like a grand day.
Oh, ‘Tis, believe me I know how thrilling that is!
Woo hoo!!!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I know they wrote it, but I am a Joe Cocker fan for that song.
Joe
‘Tis, I missed that. A hearty huzzah!
Tis,
Horray for vitality!
Dhorvath,
If it’s any consolation, I like men with a bit more meat and fur too!
OK, here’s a fun one; one of my next door neighbors just went crazy. My definition of crazy is when you keep asking people “where are the SWAT guys at, I know they wanna shoot me!” and even after I let him search my apt he thinks they are hiding just out of sight. My neighbors also let him search their apartments.
We are really trying this situation to not be a self-fulfilling prophesy. I did draw the line when he went next door to where a family has children.
This is fucking work that I am not trained for.
It’s so sad.
Sailor,
That is scary. Hope he can find help before anything too serious occurs.
Dhorvath, I don’t know whether it’s drugs, mental or both. I can’t let him hurt anyone but I don’t want to call the cops, (nobody here wants to call the cops;-)
huh, my little town hits drudgereport
http://www.ajc.com/news/cherokee/thousands-line-up-for-1101295.html glad someone is helping out.
*high fives to ‘Tis!*
Good news, everyone! I can safely say that I am officially over my bug bite induced anxiety.
Yay!
Sailor:
Typically, no one is going to get hurt, but of course play it by ear. If you feel like talking to him, try telling him that he’s experiencing feelings which are typical of mental illness, and he can check himself into a local mental health clinic, and they aren’t going to call the police unless he tells them something which would give them reason to call the police, and mere drug use is not one of those things.
Actually, scratch that last bit, that depends on state law, so I’m not sure it’ll be true there.
Jebus, finally caught back up. What a disgusting night of disgusting food talk. Blah!
Now I’m uncertain if I should go outside without a pair of Janine’s Safety Underpants TM .
Saving this newspaper/Facebook response for posterity:
The Sailor,
You really need to talk to a mental health professional about what to do with your neighbor. If there’s a city or county mental health hotline, call them. If not, call the local emergency room and ask to speak to the duty psychologist or psychiatrist. You can’t just wing something like that.
Hey, I noticed when I took a look at the weather that Texas is completely surrounded by rain and there are no more than a few scattered “popcorn” showers within the state.
Well, actually, that is pretty much the norm for this time of year. The real drought, as far as South Texas is concerned, was very nearly total absence of rain last fall and this spring. We rarely get more than a lucky thunderstorm here during the summer.
But still, I note with glee and no surprise at all that we are still dry.
‘Tis:
I agree. Another option is a police negotiator, if one is available in your area.
Came across this news story. Enjoy!
God caught backing multiple candidates
‘Tis:
I’ve dealt with situations like that before. In my experience, much as I loathe cops, things can get hairy and scary really quick. I would agree with the others here, you can’t just wing it.
One piece of advice though: Someone upthread suggested you tell him ‘the feelings he’s experiencing are typical of mental illness’…. I can’t be certain, I’m no more an ‘expert’ than they are, but I would advise NOT saying that.
Sorry, that was to Sailor, not ‘Tis. Mea culpa.
@ broboxley I have two (mostly) french titties, but only one fancy title.
As for the broken leg guy (aka Ray), I think he’s legit because Hemant Mehta reports meeting him (& presumably vetting the claims) in person. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/08/13/helping-out-an-injured-atheist/ It’s tougher to fake a broken leg than cancer. I mean, of course I don’t *know* he’s on the up and up, but it looks like it to me.
Why bother commenting on the oh so surprising fact that other people have emotions? They already know they have emotions; you’re not teaching them anything new. If you don’t like killfile, scroll by. :-|
Also… si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
Well, technically, you’ve given them a romantic orientation, not necessarily a sexual one… but that doesn’t really make your point go away, does it.
WTF.
I loves me some grammatical gender. How do you feel about all snakes being female?
…erm… yes, including the one in Genesis.
So true, so true… :-D
Jesus Haploid Christ.
The lack of pressure would. You’d boil and explode.
X-D X-D X-D
Let alone informed consent.
:-)
TLC:
Yeah, me too. This situation does require professional help, with someone who is properly trained to handle it.
in my opinion, you NEVER know if someone you’re helping is ‘on the up and up’. That’s not the point of altruism and it shouldn’t be.
Lone Coyote #378 what you are describing is a mitzvah, the directed giving via the webapp is charity. There is a difference
Well…maybe in a homeopathic sense. :D
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Gyeong Hwa @321: that’s one of my favorites. :)
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Here’s stuck in a loop in my head, at the moment.
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Broboxley: Hmmm, you’re right. But still…. people tell me I shouldn’t give change to the homeless because ‘they’ll just spend it on drugs anyways’, but to me that doesn’t matter what they do with my act of altruism, just that I ‘tried to make a difference’ and all that compassionate stuff.
I suppose a web charity is different though. Lot more at stake than just pocket change.
Mattir! Please e-mail me.
Oh, Barbie’s back on the Glenn Beck thread. She’s a moanin’ about cupcake.
Umm, thanks everyone. The situation has chilled and I think he’s sleeping now. I did talk to him, for a couple of hours, and took him to lunch, (he kept trying to get in the family next door’s house … to check for cops), so I got him away for awhile hoping a meal would work.
It was just Taco Hell, but maybe it worked. Tho it did make for a few odd moments at TB.
One can’t call an emergency hotline in this town w/o cops showing up. Since he’s paranoid about cops this seemed like a bad idea. It’s Saturday and due to budget cuts there isn’t anyone that I know of answering the other non-emergency phones.
I know I am not equipped to handle this, but it isn’t the first crazy person I’ve dealt with. I’m trying to contact his family, but I think they dumped him here.
Did I ever mention just how much I love Section 8 housing?
Grrrr, how I hate bloody companies that sell game downloads 24/7 but do not bother providing support at the weekends.
There was a 60% of IL2: Cliffs of Dover on a website I have sued before, and since I had some loyalty points I could get the game for a tenner.
Well it is not money well spent. I downloaded the game OK, and went to install. It was then I found out that they had sent me the email with the activation code, or at least part of the line with it. I cannot do a lot with “Your activation code is” and no actual code.
Needless to say whilst they were happy to take my money no one will be at work to sort this out until Monday.
Aaaaaagh.
Tired of arguing with people who won’t acknowledge reality.
Her response:
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*CRASH*
*headfloor*
*headfloor*
*headfloor*
*headfloor*
*headfloor*
View the source code on the e-mail to see if it got eaten by HTML tags. That or they didn’t appreciate being sued. =)
Hey Matt, we had a similar Saturday!
Yeah, I did that, check the email source code. Nothing there.
Seems I am not the only person. I suspect they have run out of activation codes, and their system did not fall back gracefully.
#386:
So Ben, you want aspirin, or booze for that moron-induced headache?
Like my good Saturday, England winning in the cricket and Brighton in the football, or the bad bit, with a company not letting me play a game I paid for ?
“So Ben, you want aspirin, or booze for that moron-induced headache?”
Yes.
*looks at bottle of pills and at tankard of grog*
You want both? Must’ve been one dense dumbass you were talking to.
Dang, got around to upgrading to Lion, but something happened so that when it first came up, I didn’t have an administrative account. Talk about up the creek without a paddle. But the recovery system they built in allowed me to “go back a day” and change the main user account to an administrative account, and then do the upgrade. Gee, once one can create accounts, all the old ones can be reactivated. The Redhead’s e-mail isn’t lost. Now to back up a terabyte or so of data.
it’s a bit more complicated than that. Basically, Victorian intellectuals have always been wangsting about whether they were manly men, because they didn’t show any obvious symptoms of testosterone poisoning the way physical laborers and “savages” did. But as long as academia was a male-only club, they were able to manage their distance from the manly-man ideal by creating and maintaining a parallel, “civilized” manliness, i.e. that of a well-educated gentleman. Since women have started breaking into academia, this masculinity has been shrinking in scope and strength. So, within academia, the women-heavy departments get sneered at; outside of academia, the whole of education is losing a status as masculine, since women are showing themselves quite capable of being intellectuals, too. So, masculinity is in many places being reduced to its physical, blue-collar, and “savage” roots, and in other places The Wealthy Businessman has replaced The Well-Educated Gentleman as an acceptable “civilized” masculinity
So, today has been a great day. Got a lot done with organizing (maybe not packing up boxes, but organizing), and started stripping wallpaper from the kitchen and, as usual when I do such things, trashed my hands. But dinner was very good – sauted eggplant, zucchini, chickpeas, black beans, and shrimp with garlic, ginger and olive oil.
Now I have time to catch up on TET (provided the weather doesn’t kill the power…we’re supposed to have rain and thunderstorms).
Well fuck, my adventures aren’t over yet. He woke up and was still crazy. I did manage to get him to give me the knife. It’s not as scary as it sounds but it’s definitely getting toward professional intervention time.
@Cicely: no peas tonight (I assume chickpeas don’t count?) :)
Thanks for the GooGoo Dolls link. Made for some fun listening.
Poor you, Sailor! Seriously though, surely there is a mental illness hotline in your state that will have someone on staff to answer the phone. Please do that? It really sounds like this is going to end badly for the guy or someone else.
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Today was good for me too. Got to see my ex’s kid for the first time since we broke up, and she still calls me ‘dada’. I don’t wanna be one of those people who gush about offspring (especially since she’s not genetically mine), but she’s just….. so great. I never feel more fully and perfectly in touch with what and who I am, my essential primate nature, than when I’m interacting with that little 18 month old. “The kids are alright”, some people say, and I agree in this case. She’s very much alright.
I’ve been a bit depressed lately, and this little shot of happiness and fulfillment was exactly what I needed.
Sailor
Could you call the police and ask them to come in plainclothes?
Psychotic breaks are situations where professionals are necessary. I cannot emphasize enough how quickly it can turn from he’s acting crazy, to he is hallucinating giant police snakes attacking him and acts accordingly.
Also good on you for caring and acting!
Josh, the cops get copied on the calls. They show up first. Their training is not conducive to a rational outcome. Think of Walker of WI and Gov Goodhair in Texass. My gov did it with stealth a couple of years ago.
I do have a couple of options I can call on, but I don’t want to escalate the situation unless I have to. Having lived in bad neighborhoods in LA, this is not quite yet approaching my *DANGER WILL ROBINSON* level.
The Lone Coyote, sounds like a good day. That ‘Dada’ stuff makes me leak from my eyes … in a good way.
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Tethys, I’ve met these cops before, it’s a small town. There is almost no situation they can’t make worse. Plus, they just shot a guy a couple of days ago that was experiencing similar symptoms.
I’ve got a promise from him that he stays inside ’till he gets some sleep.
Sailor,
Well, just take care of yourself. I have no advice, but a whole lot of concern.
@400: took a coupla looks, Capt. Picard, cool.
The Sailor – We drove up along the Columbia today in search of the womens clinic, and the river was just alive with sail boats, kite boarders and wind surfers. I told Naughty M you would probably love to see it. The wind surfers go at shocking speeds.
Thanks Dhorvath and everyone. I’m pretty sure a fuckton of v@lium would help, but maybe he’s actually crashed now and will sleep for hours.
I was never scared for myself, it’s just we have a bunch of kids around here, from 1 to 15, and they aren’t especially gifted.
David,
But that’s what you did when you commented to my original response.
(A comment in reaction to a comment triggered a comment cascade)
Benjamin you can assure that person that I as a believer have on higher authority than she ever could attain, that she is a total maroon.
snorfle
http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2011/08/12/demotivational-posters-my-nightmares-became-real/
Tomorrow is Pride Parade in Fargo, but I don’t really have anyone to go with…
broboxley:
Actually, this one is a guy. Different thread.
Benjamin, let me check….. you can use the same line to him :-)
Nerd, I am so happy that I go to every effort to stay as far behind, technologically with my Mac, as I can, yet still remain “current”.
Just today, as I went and did a bunch of software upgrades on the current platform, one of them, that required a reboot, had to do with upward migration, specifically sounding like your problem.
Did you already have Time Machine enabled, or was there a “go back a day” as part of the upgrade itself?
Sailor: I am really glad you’re handling it so well. If it’s not drugs, and maybe even if it is, he’s probably still going to be having the persecutory delusions when he wakes up. If not, great, but plan to ask him if he has medication he’s supposed to be taking, whether he’s felt this way before, if he has a doctor he sees when he does feel this way, and if he’s willing to go talk to one.
oh Patricia @ 407. Thanks for that. I’ve never kite boarded but it looks scary fast. I’ve windsurfed … yeeeee haaaah!
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My local situation isn’t what I could call resolved, but now my crazy, dysfunctional, good hearted, neighbors are involved. So the community seems to be handling it. (Hah, spellczech denies ‘hearted’ is a word.)
mac users can boot to a cd then change the admin passwd
strange gods before me, I’m pretty sure at this point it is a self medicated psychosis. And he’s still not asleep. But it’s OK, we’re taking shifts.
His direction [sic] has definitely lasted for more than 4 hours, but if there was professional involvement right now it would be lockdown, one way or the other. I don’t want to make that decision and I’m waiting for the family to get back to me.
Help design Rick Perry’s campaign bus……………..(snorfle)……………….. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/13/1006315/-Help-design-Rick-Perrys-campaign-bus?via=blog_1
The Sailor – I volunteer two days a week at my local Veterans Services Office, and we do PTSD, drug and alcohol, homeless outreach every week. If this guy is a veteran he can get some good help.
On the other hand lots of veterans will absolutely throw a fit if you mention the VA. The Portland police are well known for shooting PTSD vets, so I understand your caution.
Dammit, I gotta work tomorrow (working weekends sucks some days)…else I would be there, looking all straight and majorly allied.
Time Machine (dating from the date of purchase), using the Lion Recovery system (it installs a hidden partition on your hard drive). Then redid the OS upgrade. Worked beautifully. This was the first time I have used Time Machine for a restore.
Jadehawk:
Damn. I wish I could make it.
Patricia, et al, I probably should have done this whole situation on PET instead of TET. But when I get back to the computer and my other community, (that’s you folks), it does make me feel better.
It’s so goddam hard to deal with someone who isn’t sane, for whatever reason. I have to maintain his trust while pointing out his insanity. It’s like talking to a teabagger, except teabaggers have guns and they won’t let me take them away. [/kinda joking]
The Sailor: He sounds like he needs help, needs to find good help, and here in Canada it’s very possible for a guy to get that help, though it depends a bit on them sticking with it, and going back no matter how many times they relapse or go off their meds.
Unfortunately, in small town Amurrica, I dunno but I understand things are probably different.
Fargo has a Pride Parade? Hmm, I thought they only had wood chippers, eh?
and thanks, I’m feeling pretty emotional about it myself. :)
Yup, the same Fargo thats in Minnesoooota, don’tchaknow?
As if today wasn’t weird enough, I’m watching Mythbusters and listening to The Thistle & Shamrock on NPR.
Tethys, I snortled at “Yup, the same Fargo thats in Minnesoooota, don’tchaknow?”
Well, it’s my turn again, see you all in a 1/2 hour. (He’s much better now, comparatively.)
I didn’t understand what you meant when you said “self-medicated,” Sailor. Did you mean he’s been taking recreational drugs and that’s why he’s flipped? Or did you mean he’s off his meds or something?
Yeah, if you could get him to down a good quantity of benzodiazepines you all could get some sleep. I’d donate some of mine if my USB port wasn’t all clogged up.
weren’t all clogged up. I will not contribute to the disappearance of the subjunctive. I hate myself for having typed that.
Bro Boxley, thank you for that reminder.
Note: I am now using Chrome, and I have to refresh all the time to read FTB, unlike with Safari, which I have abandoned*.
*The way I have abandoned FB for Plus, which has free multi-node video chat. Anybody need an invite?**
**Which they may not honor for a while, perhaps withholding as they decide what do do next.
I AM FUCKING PISSED NOW.
Josh, that’s what I meant and my USB tubes is all clogged up in both directions;-)
And he threw on a jacket and left. In this heat. me: “why are you putting on a jacket?”
him: “I gotta go, I gotta go”
Yep, I lost him on my watch.
As many nights endure without a moon or star, so will TET endure though I am gone, and far. (Apologies to Leonard Cohen).
I’ve been working. And when I’m done with that, I work some more. This a drudge report.
So, enough of the excuses. I miss you all (well, most of you anyway), and I’ll be back. (Apologies to Arnold.)
In passing, then, here’s a Moment of Mormon Madness: seems the followers of addlepated, lanky pedophile, Warren Jeffs will be building a monument to him. Said monument will be tall enough to blight the landscape, yea verily even the mighty cliffs. And said monument will feature the Profit not with his Escalade, nor even with his Harley, but with a little girl. I think they fucked up. There should be at least 24 little girls since that’s the count last we knew of his 78 (approximately) wives who were under the age of 17.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/10/warren-jeffs-the-secret-statue-of-the-polygamy-cult-felon.html
Here I am! I missed you, Horde! Hugs and chocolate to everyone except John Morales, who in place of hugs, chocolate, or treacle gets a hearty, savory STFU from me!
I believe I have gotten a very high score on my Greek exam. I don’t have the grade yet, but despite shaking uncontrollably through the first half hour of the exam, I walked out of the classroom feeling damn good about it, which is extremely rare for me. Plus, if I’m understanding the grading scale here correctly, I only needed an 89% on the final to achieve an A+ overall. I know I got that, so yay! *throws confetti about*
Afterward I got to go to the Queen Mary (technically it was for a paranormal tour at my mom’s request, but I was able to ignore the woo most of the time and enjoy the beautiful old ship and fascinating history). I wanted to stay there forever and write and take pictures :)
Dr. Drew talks to women who escaped from Warren Jeff’s clutches:
http://drdrew.blogs.cnn.com/category/warren-jeffs/
Arrrrghhh, if I wanted to babysit I’d have my own fucking children!
Josh, he’s back now and I have him ensconced in his sister’s apartment. Next shift is taking over. We take care of our own, we’se just not do good at it. (And yes, I’m deliberately fucking up the language, I need to find humor when I can.)
CC, I thinks you does good!
Lynna, I doesn’t has words strong enough for that fellow.
He will die in prison, and probably sooner and more violently than he thinks. It’s probably not a bit of comfort to his victims.
More Joys of Editing … from Lynna’s pile of editing jobs we have a gem:
I corrected text today that identified one head honcho as “Director of the Board Member.”
I was thinking of offering “Director of the Board’s Member” and “Director of the Boards’ Members” … but I had hard time figuring out the physical logistics.
Could also be that the head honcho in question is a tool.
Could also be that there is only one board member, and he requires direction.
Speaking of writing for those who can’t, I’m looking for a grant writer who has some experience with applying for grants. It would be ideal if said grant writer also had some experience with non-profit organizations that provide healthcare services, or education. Any referrals would be appreciated. Contact me at lynna [at] artmeetsadventure [dot] com.
CC
Woo-hoo for you. (more confetti)
Isn’t the Queen Mary gorgeous! Spawn got married there in June, reception in the Queens salon.
Congrats again.
Here is some happy dancing music. “I Can’t Dance Enough” by Pan Ron.
CC
Ugh, jealous. ;)
I would love to have a banquet there!
Thanks! And yes, it’s just beautiful. I’ve got a particular taste for old and neglected places, and we visited a bunch of them – the first class pool room was a favorite, as well as another very big old room that I can’t remember the name of right now. The other, more elegant parts are lovely too!
Lynna, I feel heretical in mentioning this, because I am a pilot, but I enjoyed the tour of the Queen Mary more than I liked the Spruce Goose. (Yep, that’s how long ago it was.)
Long Beach, eh!?
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Wow, we just got fucktons and shitloads of T-Storms and rain!
… and hail. I almost wish I was on my boat.
CC,
I loved the view back to shore, and we actually stayed on board. I think the Queens salon is part of the “Captains Tour”.
Unfortunately, I spent most of my time angrily pacing around on deck biting holes in my tongue.
(I so wish I could be an evil atheist and speak my mind but nooooooo, I have to be polite while gritting my teeth for spawns sake)
Ok..whine off/
Wow, link failed. Here it is.
OMFG we have a stoopid troll on the Glenn Beck thread. A self-proclaimed teabagger.
The Sailor:
Hopefully, you’re actually getting someplace, which none of us did with Barb in the Glenn Beck thread. :) Oh, and even Bismarck has Pride Days! I know, seriously surprising. ;D
Classical C, yay and congrats!
Cannabinaceae, I’m avoiding G+ until they get a brain and sort out their issues with nyms.
Warren Jeffs is one of those people who makes me reconsider my opposition to prison rape, torture, and the death penalty, and get out my old rusty knife. Phew! Still metaphorical only, but it’s a close call at times.
Hey Poopyhead, if you’re paying attention: Could you put in a Dungeon page over here? I know most of the original denizens have been given reprieves, but it’d be nice to know who are still personae non gratae over here (not to mention new additions, like this ‘Barbara’ dingbat).
Caine, thanks. Real Life was so stuupid today I just can’t deal with playing with barbies. The stupid, it burns.
Benjamin: it’s here, it’s just not visibly linked: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/dungeon/
SGBM:
Ah, so it is.
The Sailor:
Is it Napster or Game Genie you have trouble with?
Congratulations, ‘Tis!
MAJeff?
‘Tis Himself (and others) mentioned up-thread that they continue to be amazed that lower and middle class USians vote against their own welfare when they vote for Tea Party and other far-right candidates.
There’s an article called Leap of Faith in the August 15th issue of The New Yorker in which journalist Ryan Lizza follows Michele Bachmann on the campaign trail. Among lots of other mind-boggling details, Lizza points out that people who vote for the Bachmanns of the world think, like she does, that if it ain’t bible-based there’s something wrong with it. Doesn’t matter if they can’t figure out what that something is, nor that the facts are against them. They know what’s wrong and what’s right, and that’s good enough for them.
Furthermore, if we moar educated elites would get out in the real world we’d see how people really think, and how real people really believe … and we’d stop insulting the real people … or something.
Some of the people who vote for Bachmann types are well-read in an extremely odd and restricted way. I ran into this recently when my son’s uncle (on the ex-husband’s side) tried to pressure my son into attending a talk by Les Feldick. The Uncle happens to live in Bachmann territory, and he believes that God guides him when it comes to buying radio stations.
Feldick, Eidsmoe, Schaeffer, Noebel, Wilkins, Pearcey and holy babbles of all kinds — with the exception of the babble, most of us have never heard of the rest of the authors in the holy canon. But Bachmann People can quote chapter and verse.
She didn’t think that stuff up on her own. She learned it. She was taught it. She studied it. It doesn’t matter if you confuse John Wayne with John Wayne Gacy, that’s just facts. The important thing is that you understand that “liberty” equals worshipping the right kind of God.
Bachmann and her husband experienced a life-changing epiphany when they watched Shaeffer’s films. Which reminds once again of my son’s uncle recounting how it changed his life when he started reading, watching, and discussing evangelical Christian crapola with his wife. I guess it doesn’t take much to light these people up. Lighting them up powers a lot of book and DVD sales.
Dominionism, based on genesis 1:26, receives some scrutiny from Ryan Lizza. It’s pretty much what you think it is. The Bachmann People don’t just have a duty to rule the world, they have a god-given right to rule. As historian Sara Diamond writes, “Christians, and Christians alone, are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns.” Schaeffer even advocated the violent overthrow of the government if Roe v. Wade was not overturned. I think Tea Partiers are trying to overthrow the government, they’re just doing it by taking the debt ceiling issue as a hostage — it’s a slightly toned down revolution compared to what our domestic terrorists on the right would prefer.
Michele Bachmann told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Pearcey’s book Total Truth was “wonderful.” She says Schaeffer “was a tremendous philosopher.” She says God is the Lord of all, including “sociology, theology, biology, politics.” She attended the School of Law at Oral Roberts University where the Bible, “not the Constitution or conventional jurisprudence, guides the curriculum,” as Lizza notes. Bachmann worked with John Eidsmoe as research assistant when he wrote Christianity and the Constitution.
Bachmann told an Iowa audience:
From Oral Roberts, Bachmann moved on to Pat Robertson’s C.B.N. University (now Regent University). She worked briefly as a tax attorney, but her colleagues say she was on pregnancy leave at least half the time, and worked low-level cases.
When Backmann quit work to take care of her children, she also began a long stint as a foster parent, “So that young people could come to know Jesus at an early age, the earlier the better…” Charter schools and homeschooling that are God-centered became one of her passions. A charter school she helped to found claimed to be “non-sectarian in all progams…” but really taught all god all the time. Until they were caught, and the Bachmann People were booted.
She talks about this school as if she were still part of the administration, as if the fact that the school is still going strong (minus God, which she doesn’t mention) is proof of her effectiveness as a community leader.
Bachmann wrote that federal education law “embraces a socialist, globalist worldview; loyalty to all government and not America.” (That sums up the opinion of most of the voters in my neck of the woods.)
The odd mix of patriotism with hatred for the government shows up again when Bachmann claims that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery. Even after being corrected via a presentation of real historical facts, she stood her ground. She gets this from Eidsmoe.
Bachmann adds to Eidsmoe some twisted history from J. Steven Wilkins:
God first, my friends. Otherwise, civil rights without god is a form or cruelty. Wilkin’s book used to be posted on “Michele’s Must Read List” — but her campaign managers now have her substituting “liberty” for every instance in which she would prefer to say “God” — I think this accounts for her strangely tense and reined-in look. She’s self-editing.
What this boils down to is a melding of godaddledness with financial/political aims that have an underpinning of “scholarship” that has a polished surface, but that is rotten underneath. The surface is good enough to fool way too many people. It’s good enough to get her elected. It’s good enough to convince a bunch of people to vote against their own best interest.
I wish, but I do not have his contact information, and he doesn’t post/read, so he can’t notice my dilemma
The Sailor:
Oh yes. No one needs that sort of Barb.
:I’ll get me coat:
In case this didn’t come up before, here’s Eddie Izzard explaining that coffee leads to sex.
We need someone to go get to know Marcus Bachmann and pull a Nimue on him.
Evil crazy woman must be discredited.
The journalist from The New Yorker noted in his story that when Marcus watches his wife on TV, he mouths the words along with her.
Lynna:I think this accounts for her strangely tense and reined-in look. She’s self-editing.
That is what she always looks like, its nothing new. An uptight, sanctimonious cray cray church lady who has probably never had an orgasm in her life. Newsweek has a whole gallery.
The pair of them are sooo creepy. They think they are on a mission from god.
@Tethys-zombi
They’re Blues brothers?
Tethys@61
Nimue, as in lady of the lake?
I’m not familiar with the name used in that way.
What does it mean to nimue someone?
Would you mind if I sent the information to him?
Just to up the creepiness factor as we discuss right-wing religious fanatics, here’s another Moment of Mormon Madness. In this case, mainstream mormons are twisting in the wind over the whole Warren Jeffs thing.
The title of the news coverage in the mormon newspaper Deseret News reeks of desperation, “Jeffs a monster, but culture isn’t far behind.” Hmmm. Where have I heard that argument before?
And … this comes from the mormon culture in which parents teach four-year-old girls to cover their shoulders.
I guess this indicates that Warren Jeffs had a subscription to Vogue Paris, and that’s what sullied his character.
Nimue was Merlin’s pupil/lover and downfall. She walled him up in a tree. I assume that taking Bachman-husband out of action is intended. But given his vehement anti-gayness, I suspect that a pretty boy would be more effective on him than a pretty girl.
I bought PZ a beer on the Queen Mary and we hung out with Sasha. AAI Convention a few years back.
An ex-mormon posted this hopeful news today:
Favorable View of Mormons in 2007 – 53%
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/648/romney-mormon
Favorable View of Mormons in 2011 – 45%
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-08/a-third-of-voters-have-qualms-about-mormon-president-poll-says.html
It’s a trend. It almost resembles a Pharyngulated poll.
Reading the glenn beck thread, Barbie there got me thinking about free canadian healthcare, and how many times I’ve injured myself, and how dead I’d be if I didn’t live in a country that treated my wounds for free with no complaint or hassle before releasing me back into the wild to injure myself again.
Canada is likely to take a bad backwards slide under Harper, but I’m thankful for free healthcare just the same.
Pheeuw, caught up again. TET does seem to be getting its speed up to it’s old standards.
@ David Marjanović, OM
I have always wondered about how these influences could travel. Parallels between religions are very common and seem to imply a level of communication between peoples of the world.
But on further consideration, this is obviously not necessary at all. As societies and their modes of livelihood change in similar fashion (eg hunter-gatherer to established farming communities) across the globe, so do their metaphysics.
Corn fed cultures have corn gods. And god-sacrifice (often in human form) is a common feature of such cultures. There is no need to communicate such spontaneously arising tropes between them, they are so similar because the needs that they satisfy are so similar.
An example: The similarities of the Noah fable to many other similar stories across the world are taken by some religious folk as “evidence” of a world wide flood. This is simply crazy. When people plant crops they move to the plains and near water. Generally this is near a river which may flood and make the “whole world” seem to flood. The Dai people in China have a very similar character to Noah, called Sang Mudi, who saved all the animals of the “whole world” on his raft. (Luckily he also saved the dragons, otherwise they would now be extinct.)
@ SQB
[not Phil Lynott’s “Whiskey in the Jar”] True… I have now checked the Pfft of all knowledge.
TIL that if you call someone out about their “passive-aggressive bullshit” (exact words), they just might unfriend you:
Him: “I have studied nutrition for the last 15 years. Microwaves alter the molecular fiber of food, and what you take out is not what you put in those contraptions. I had an interesting conversation with a physicist about that a few years ago. Plus, microwaved food tastes like shit. Maybe you should learn to improve your steaming techniques.”
Me: “[citation needed]”
Him: “I am at a live show right now, posting from my phone. I can’t provide citations at the moment. With 15 years of study, this is information I have memorized. Do whatever you like.”
Me: [link to Wikipedia, and text of relevant section]
Him: “Like I pointed out, do whatever you like. You clearly don’t need any of my knowledge, citing outdated data from Wikipedia.”
Me: “If you’ve got more recent data than that cited on Wikipedia, feel free to cite it. Better yet, update the Wikipedia page with it. But don’t expect me to take your word for it.”
Me: “PS: What’s with the passive-aggressive bullshit?”
Me: “… and he unfriended me. How special.”
Theophantes@73
You might want to look up Joseph Campbell.
He was a cultural anthropologist who took a serious look at all of those similarities your talking about. He theorized that all myths and religous stories are telling the same story because they are all trying to answer the same questions.
That’s from The Masks of God
(Though I may have paraphrased it. Working from memory)
Interesting stuff
I do find microwave food doesn’t taste as good, but that’s because I can’t seem to get it to heat evenly.
i wouldn’t mind at all! go ahead :-)
Over in the Glenn Beck thread, Patricia had a good laugh over my Sweet Baby Buttfucked Jesus. That’s from the Jesus Who? Menu I used to maintain for the usenet group I was on back in the day. People got creative with variations on the Jesus Christ! expressions. I’ve posted this before, but told Patricia I’d repost, so here it is:
Jesus Jumping Christ on a Pogo Stick
Jesus H. Christ on roller skates
Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ
Jesus H. Christ on a motorized dildo!
Jesus Christ on a Tilt-a-Whirl!
Christ in a sidecar
Jesus H Baldheaded Christ on a Raft!
Great green biodegradable Christ in hot pants
Jesus H. Christ on a collapsible aluminum crutch!
Jesus Christ on the dancefloor!
Jesus jumped-up Christ on a chariot-driven crutch
Crispy Christ
Christ on toast
Sweet cream of Jesus over noodles
Sweet Zombie Jesus!
Ohh, Sweet Sirloin of Jesus au Jus avec TRUFFLES!
J. Haploid Christ roller skating nekkid through the crosswalk
Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ on a stick
Jesus asthmatic Christ with a nebulizer
Jesus Christ On A Loose Chunk Of Ice
Sweet cream of Jesus on toast points!
Sweet poached Jesus onna plate
Soft-boiled Jesus in an egg cup
Jesus Christ in a white wine sauce, with mushrooms, shallots and garlic
Deep-fried Jesus! Onna stick!
Sweet Jesus on rye bread with a dill pickle
Sweet Jesus on rye bread with coarse-ground mustard
Christ on a cracker!
Great Bald Headed Jesus Christ on a moped
Jesus jumped-up Christ in a sidecar
Sweet Jesus with a yellow plastic shoop-de-doo
Christ assraping Buddha!
Jesus Haploid Christ
Jesus H Chocolate Christ On A Stick
Jesus H. Christ and his black bastard brother Harry
Jesus H Christmas on a fire engine
Jesus Christ on acid
Jesus-Christ-Eating-A-Dennyburger
Jesus Christ eatin’ a corndog
Jesus H Christ on a pair of stilts!
Jesus Christ on TWO crosses!
Sweet Buttfucked Baby Jesus
Jesus Christ on the 38 Geary Limited Outbound to Point Lobos
Jesus Christ riding a vacuum
Jumping Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ on a string of cheap plastic beads
Crispy Fried Christ
Jeezuss deep-fried crispy Christ
Jesus Christ in a jumping bean!
Sweet Jesus in a TEACUP
Hi – question – anybody know what the current status is of the hypothesis that testosterone increases competitiveness? From my cursory non-scientist scan it looks like it’s a lot more complicated than that, and everything always is… I’m trying to find a good lay explanation but everything looks like Sensational Science Journalism to me.
Waaaah! I miss MAJeff so much. Somebody please tell him he’s loved and missed. Today I thought about him when I was pruning my four different basils. He always bested me in basil growing and canning. Dammit.
The Barb comments – it was a joy to lurk again. Watching the regulars is a spectator sport that I may have to continue, wearing Depends. Since PZ & Scooter are the only horde voices I know, it’s hysterical to do imaginary Pharyngula voices for the comments.
Caine – Gawd damnit, I thought the laughing so hard I didn’t need to loosen the corset stage was over for this thread…oh hell no, you just had to post the Jesus Who? menu.
Naughty Marvin is enjoying the ‘sidecar’ christs.
Jeez you Ilk are cracking me up today!
boyfriend is reporting that a bunch of Pride attendees have filed into the restaurant he works at: very colorful, and least annoying drunk crowd, ever
:-)
Patricia:
Hahahaha, I’m glad. :D The Jesus Who? Menu can always be added to, I’ll be happy to keep maintaining the list.
Rather than mucking up the congratulatory thread with my stupidity, three people now have said PROFESSOR in caps. It must be a joke of some kind, but I do not get it. Please help me feel less ignorant.
Done!
SC – Please relay my sentiments to MAJeff too. I really miss him.
The other voice of wisdom I miss is Broken Soldier.
*le sniff*
I will.
I miss him, too. Where is he?
SGBM:
Reference.
Caine – Marvin has a beautiful photo of his Harley & sidecar, but we don’t know how to post it up so the Ilk can see it.
We are going to get my new bike in the morning, I’m pretty excited!
SC – I don’t know where Broken Soldier is. Like a whole lot of the vets I see during my volunteer work, they’re like gawd – they just Poof in and out. I wonder where he went, and if he is OK.
Which proves us atheist bastards don’t care a wit about anybody but our selfish gawd hating selves.
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Nimue as in The Mists Of Avalon which is a retelling of the legend from Morgaines point of view. (Morgan la Fey)
Merlin betrays the women of Avalon and Nimue is sent to beguile and enchant him as revenge, eventually sealing him into a tree.
I think Marcus Bachmanns Nimue probably looks a lot like this.
Patricia:
You can email photos to me (my email addy is on my zenfolio, just clicks my nym) and I’ll be happy to put them up in one of my galleries.
Ooooooh, shiny! Can’t wait to hear about it.
Thanks, Benjamin!
Tethys – I so don’t want to argue with you, but I don’t remember the Mists of Avalon that way. I have it here, so I can watch it again, Nimue isn’t ringing a bell.
If I want to curse anyone with chaos, confusion, despair and discord, I send them the Blessings of Eris. She loves christians.
Caine – yep Sunday is going to be busy. We have to harvest the hops, and get my new bike.
(I don’t even give a shit about the hops. *grin*)
Patricia
The movie or the book? I’ve never seen the movie. I am referring to the book.
The memory is aging and sometimes betrays though. Bah, much worse than wrinkles IMO.
Thanks to everyone for sharing my joy about the exam :) I was supposed to be in bed so very long ago, and now, goodnight!
Somehow I managed to infect myself with an earworm. And now you all have it too.
PS: On the off chance you haven’t seen the trailer yet…
Good day Horde,
I am finding it increasingly difficult to keep up at the moment so hello to all and: Fucking Gravity Magnets, how to they work?
Set 1 min 1 sec – if I hadn’t fumbled at the last second I would have done it. Oh well, back to doing the boring stuff outside :D
Finally updloaded a random picture to gravatar; I could have posted one of the cats, just to join in with Kitty et al, but the dragonfly that was using our washing line as a hunting perch was the first one in the folder and it a) stayed still for a macro shot, and b) looks like an alien, so it was perfect.