Arthur C. Clarke, Nadine Gordimer, Isaac Asimov, Arthur Miller, Wole Soyinka, Gore Vidal, Douglas Adams, Germaine Greer, Iain Banks, José Saramago, Terry Pratchett, Ken Follett, Ian McEwan, Andrew Motion, Martin Amis, Michel Houellebecq, Philip Roth, Margaret Atwood, Salman Rushdie,Norman MacCaig, Philip Pullman, Matt Ridley, Harold Pinter, Howard Brenton, Tariq Ali, Theodore Dalrymple, Roddy Doyle, Redmond O’Hanlon, Diana Athill, Christopher Hitchens. All these renowned writers said, there is no God. There are hundreds of thousands of writers in the world say the same thing, God doesn’t exist. Why shouldn’t they say? It’s just common sense.
Albert Einstein on God
Stephen Hawking on God
Carl Sagan on God
Richard Dawkins on God
PZ Myers on God
Christopher Hitchens on God
James Randi on God
George Carlin on God
Stephen Fry on God
Sam Harris on God
This is high time boss, ops sorry God…plz turn up 😉
Removing these great people as said God is really unnecessary I think.
Billion Muslims think Allah exist- does not make them right- same logic applies to your above mentioned people
We can’t define and have no clue about the attributes of God –but so arrogant and doctrineted to assert that he does exist or does not exist
It is called atheist/scientific fundamentalism- just another new cult
No scientist ever said ‘Eureka, found the formula –‘God doesn’t exist’- Believe is not science –just speculations
Einstein – believed in natural God not personal- His famous line’ God does not play dice…’
Human lack the brain power to comprehend the complexity of God mechanism etc. you have to have a god like intellect to understand God
Scientist –human, science- is not. Scientist only knows tiny bit of universal laws- billions trillion s things- remains to be discovered and understood
Oh Agni_B, short on logic, long on fallacy.
Atheists/scientist, whatever, never declare they have proven God doesn’t exist, that would be as equally impossible as it would be for you prove my dear friend, mr invisible pink unicorn, doesn’t exist. You can’t do it.
But, equally, I cannot prove he does. So do we declare the issue one where we are equally right? Of course not, you buffoon, it’s up to the people who are making shit up to provide reasonable evidence as to why their made up shit is ‘real’.
You even provided for the absurd logical fallacy of ‘we can’t define and have no clue about the attributes of God’. Well, neither can we do same for my dear, dear friend, mr invisible pink unicorn. After all, while we’re in the game of making shit up, we might as well insist that the qualities of the ‘shit’ concerned are utterly undefinable.
I don’t have to assert ‘there is no god’, I merely have to ask you to provide evidence to support your assertion that there is. You, however, opt for the dishonest claim that you’d have to actually have the intellect of a God in order to even ‘understand’ it’s ‘complexities’.
You, my friend, are a tosser of word salad. May your reality remain ever confusing and beyond your comprehension. Which it will if you keep insisting on being such a tosser.
If you can’t understand my logic- no chance for you to comprehend God-
Lots of babble from you –but no compelling argument
If you are an atheist – and can’t prove God does not exist- just shut your gob-and don’t be an imbecile
1)- No scientist ever said they have proof- just speculation
2) Science examine how the laws of universe works with all its complexity- not looking for God.- which no one knows what it is.
3) Atheism is just another cult now- propagating ideas and believes like Jihadist and hooker for Jesus.
4) Theist/ Atheist are in same boat- none can prove or disprove anything- that
Was my point- don’t know about yours
Imagination and projection and hallucination and illusion — they are all parts of the mind. Mind is the world — and going beyond the mind is the beginning of God.
People are fast asleep. Somebody is asleep as a Catholic, and somebody is asleep as a Hindu. That doesn’t matter — sleep is sleep.If a Catholic, a Hindu and a Muslim get too drunk, will there be any distinction, differentiation between their drunkenness The Catholic will behave as foolishly as the Hindu; and the Hindu will behave as stupidly as the Muslim. Once they are drunk, they are drunk. And people are asleep. It makes no difference what kind of theology you have used as a pillow for your sleep. Whether the pillow is blue or pink or white or red does not matter. Once you fall asleep, you fall asleep; the pillow becomes immaterial. Whether you are sleeping on the New Testament, on the Bhagavad Gita, on the Qur’an does not make any difference; you are using a pillow. Somebody is using the New Testament as the pillow, somebody else is using the Qur’an as the pillow. And you are snoring over your scriptures. And Jesus and Krishna and Allah remain strangers
Theology begins with a belief, with faith. And philosophy begins with doubt, logic, reason. Philosophy is thinking; theology is believing without thinking. No religion allows thinking, so no religion has a philosophy: they all have theologies.
Christianity does not have any philosophy, it has a theology. It says “believe” — believe in the savior, believe in Jesus Christ, believe that he is the only begotten son of God, believe in God, believe in the trinity. But it is always “believe,” and believing makes a man a hypocrite, because deep down you know that belief cannot become a truth. Deep down you know that this is only a belief; you have not experienced it. There is no base for it, it is baseless: a single doubt and the whole edifice will be shattered on the ground.
Now, a Christian believes that Jesus is born of a virgin mother. Can you think about it? If you think, doubt will be needed. You can only believe, and in believing… you know perfectly well that it is unnatural, it cannot happen.
Christianity says that Jesus was resurrected after his death. You have to believe it because there is no proof, no evidence. In the contemporary literature of Jesus Christ’s life, even the name of Jesus is not mentioned. Do you think a phenomenon like a man getting crucified, getting resurrected, would go unnoticed? that a man who brings dead people to life would not be reported anywhere? that a man who walks on water…?
Do you think this man would have been crucified? He would have been hailed as the messiah by the Jews themselves, because what more do you want? — none of your other prophets have done anything of this kind. But there is not even a mention that there was such a person as Jesus Christ. And he did not have a big following.
If you think, you cannot believe in these things. If you think about God, you cannot believe. So Christianity has no philosophy. No religion can afford to be philosophical; it can only remain theological.
All the organized religions care basically depriving humanity of religion because they are misdirecting you. They are always directing you outwards — their God is far away in the sky. And when you pray, folding your hands towards the sky, you don’t realize that there is nobody to hear you.
In fact, the one who is praying, the one who is alive in you, the one who is breathing in you, is the God.
You have just to discover it.
Agni B,
You are right on three points.
1) Simply asserting that these people have said there’s no God is as fallacious as billions of Muslims saying that Allah is real does not make Allah any more or less real.
2) Scientists have never made a discovery and said “ah, therefore God doesn’t exist.” They have, through time said: “ah, so that’s how that works, obviously that supernatural explanation that we most-likely made up to explain the phenomena we now have a wholly naturalistic explanation for is bunk and can be relegated to mythology.”
3) We cannot prove that God does not exist (or that he does), and we don’t know everything about the universe, so yes, hypothetically there’s a gap somewhere that God can fit into, and the definition of what god may or may not be can continually to be twisted and fabricated to fill that ever-changing emptiness of ignorance that humans will (hopefully) continue to fill with knowledge, as one of our most beneficial characteristics is to continue to seek answers for the questions we do not know the answer for yet.
However, that being said, if we have no proof, no evidence, no reason to believe he exists…then why do it? If there is some reason other than belief in something utterly unproven for beliefs sake, then I would love to hear it. Some philosophical argument that said god does, or is even likely to exist other than blind-faith.
I’m sure you’ve heard it before, but let me restate one of the basic argument that many of these people have tried to make: Zeus, Unicorns, elves, Odin, pink dragons, Ketzalkoatl, Osiris, Leviathan, Mammon, Enki, Tiamat, Allah, Yahweh, Peter Pan, Sasquatch, Jehovah, Chupacabra, etc. (http://www.godchecker.com/), what possible reason would for believing in any one particular God or proposed mythical entity without proof or evidence, when you don’t believe in the others whose existence have more or less the exact same lack of proof attesting to them?
That’s all we’re asking: What possible reason for believing without evidence just for belief’s sake? What purpose does it serve?
p.s. Please for the sake of my sanity do not throw out Pascal’s wager…really tired of that nonsense.
David W
Glad to see you still preserved your independent mind
and have not joined the band wagon
Only Buddha, I think, was not interested in finding God’s existence – he thought it was not important
and also incomprehensible- “finite mind can’t comprehend the infinite….”
Agni B
Agni_B
And how do you know this? Your saying it does not make it so. Sounds like made up bullshit. Perhaps if you look in your hat you can find where there is gold in the earth.
Let me simplify for your understanding-
Can a brick layer (no offence) without any education comprehend Einstein “E= MC²?” – Or can you converse theory of relativity if not a physicist
If you looking for bullshit- try any toilet
Let me clarify. Your simplification is bullshit (offense intended). Einstein existed. Physicists exists. I don’t need to understand them to know that they exist. So to draw comparisons to between existing intellect and an intellect that there is no evidence for is I believe a false equivocacy.
And as an afterthought how would you know what criteria is necessary in order understand the mind of this imaginary being? I mean since you would need a godlike intellect and all that.
And as an after, afterthought… bulls do not shit in toilets. I’ve seen cats do it, but never bulls. More magical thinking on your part?
Yes, a brick layer without any education can comprehend Einstein “E= MC². Yes, a non physicist can converse theory of relativity. Yes, everybody can see you absolutely diluted with bullshit. That is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
Existence of God would have been solved at the first day of human conscience appeared to humankind,but it was not and remained same till date. As suppose actually substances are science. So as per my idea no science exists at all like God.
Oh I understand your logic or, rather, your fallacious logic.
Ooh, how clever of you to completely ignore the valid argument I made by simply claiming I didn’t! Genius.
Either you’re an idiot or you are dishonest to the core.
I don’t have to prove anything, science doesn’t have to prove anything, you do.
What don’t you understand about making an assertion? I think you’ll find the label ‘imbecile’ applies to the party in this conversation who doesn’t appear to understand what an assertion is.
You assert, “God exists”, we say, “Where’s the evidence?”
You cannot keep ignoring that question by applying additional attributes to your ‘God’. Prove your ‘God’ exists first.
Position your spectacles and read again- never stated God exist or does not exist.
So don’t need to prove anything- Proof should come from Theist and Atheist
Well by the simple fact that you declare “God” to be far too complex for us to understand, you are asserting that a God exists according to your absurd premise of arbitrarily assigning attributes to it.
Atheist’s have nothing to prove, we’re not the ones asserting anything.
You’re the one who has asserted the existence of a God by way of it having attributes we could not possibly understand. Which is, quite simply, one of the most fallacious and hilariously nonsensical assertions I have heard in a long time.
Thanks for the laugh.
Science, by definition DOES have to prove it’s assertions. That’s how science is supposed to work. You come up with a theory, then through observation and experimentation you prove it to be a scientific principle. Otherwise, it remains just a theory.
Richrd Dawkins did not say god does not exist. He said: ” we don’t know if it exists.”
That’s why he wrote “The god delusion”. He is a 6 on a scale of 7 in disbelief. He probably would say the same thing about Rusell’s Teapot and leprechauns. That which is posited without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. It is disingenuous to quote him out of context .
Richard Dawkins bibliography:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins_bibliography
Reading some of his books might prevent uninformed posts (about Richard Dawkins) in the future.
naturally like your website however you have to test the spelling on quite a few of your posts. A number of them are rife with spelling problems and I to find it very bothersome to tell the reality then again I’ll definitely come again again
Modern Christians are making desperate attempts to save their religion from its primitive, superstitious past — and from the fundamentalists!
It is impossible to prove God to the coming generation; to the young and the fresh mind it is impossible to prove God. And the days of belief are over. It is a scientific age: you must prove, give the evidence; nobody is going to accept something just by your saying it. What will Christianity be without God?
Up to now, for two thousand years, Christianity has depended on the miracles which are its basic foundations to prove it a superior religion to any other religion.
These miracles have been, for two thousand years, the superiority of Christianity over all religions. The Pope represents Jesus. He should do at least some little miracles as evidence that he is really a representative of God. And the Pope says faith in Jesus can do miracles — then the Pope should try it! He must have faith in Jesus.
But no theologian, nor any Pope, is ready to walk on water. They all know that nature does not change its laws, its laws, for anybody; it does not take anybody as an exception.
If we take away all the miracles of Jesus, he is left behind, with nothing. Wiithout miracles Jesus means nothing.
Without miracles Buddha remains the same, because he never did any miracles. People loved him not for his miracles. People loved him for his clarity of perception, of seeing into the very root of things, of giving insights to people to transform life. Walking on water is simply stupid. Even if you can do it, then too it is not a miracle, it is simply stupidity, because you will remain the same. You will not come out of the water a transformed human being.
Just to give you an idea of how Buddha and Jesus will behave in a similar situation….
Lazarus is dead. His sisters are great devotees — Lazarus was a great friend of Jesus. They send a message to him, “Come, Lazarus is dead!” And they keep his body inside a cave. Jesus comes and he calls Lazarus, standing outside the cave, “Lazarus, come out!”
Lazarus says, “Have you come? Great, I am coming!” And he comes out. It seems to be dramatic, it seems to be all planned. It seems the man was not dead. He was a friend, his two sisters were devotees — it was as if he was simply sitting there, waiting.
But it is not a miracle. And even if it is a miracle, even if Lazarus comes back to life, he is not transformed. We don’t hear anything else again of Lazarus. A man who has died, a man who has gone through the process of death to the beyond, who comes back, cannot be the same. Lazarus would have become a great master, but he remained the same person — no change at all.
In a similar situation Gautam Buddha behaves differently.
Kisa Gotami had only one son. Her husband had died, her other children had died; she had seen death in its brutal ugliness. Only one son remained, and she was living only for him; otherwise there was nothing for her to live for. She wanted to kill herself; she had lost everything — all those people she had loved and lived for. But her neighbors suggested, “One son is alive — without you he will also be dead. Take care of him. We understand your sorrow….”
But one day that boy also died, and Kisa Gotami went completely mad. It was a coincidence that Buddha was staying in the same city of Shravasti. Somebody suggested to Kisa Gotami “A great mystic is here. Why don’t you take your son to him? He can do anything; he is a man of tremendous power. Seeing your situation, and knowing his compassion, something is possible. Perhaps your son may come back to life.”
Kisa Gotami went with the dead body. She put the body at the feet of Buddha and said, “I have lost everything — all my children, my husband. I was living only for this son; now he is also dead. I have heard much about your compassion. Now is the time to show it. Let my son get up again, resurrect him.”
Buddha said, “On one condition: you go into the town…to resurrect your child I need a few mustard seeds, but they should be from a family where nobody has ever died.”
Kisa Gotami was not in a state of mind to realize that this was impossible, that the condition could not be fulfilled. She went from one house to another and people said, “We can give you as many mustard seeds as you want. We can fill our bullock carts with mustard seeds and bring them to Buddha if your son can be revived. But our mustard seeds won’t help, because not only one but thousands must have died in our family. For generations after generations, people have been dying. These mustard seeds are not going to fulfill the condition.
She went on, and the same was the answer everywhere. She went to the king of Shravasti and told him, “Can’t you do just a small thing for me? A few mustard seeds and my son can be back, alive.”
The king said, “You can have as many mustard seeds as you want.”
But the woman said, “There is a condition, and the condition is that in your family no one should have died. And your family is royal — certainly you will fulfill my condition.”
The king said, with tears in his eyes, “Royal or not royal, death makes no difference. My father has died, my son has died, and an unaccountable number of people must have died in my family before I was born. You have to forgive me; I can give you anything you want, but that condition cannot be fulfilled.”
The whole day going round the city, the woman became alert of a fact…death is inevitable, today or tomorrow.
After seeing the king she came back to Buddha, touched his feet and said, “Please forgive me. I was asking you to do something against nature, and you were wise enough not to say no to me. Instead you gave me an opportunity to understand that my asking was wrong. Please initiate me. I don’t have anything to live for, but I would like to know what it is that lives and what it is that dies.” Buddha initiated her, and she became one of the great meditators among his followers.
Now, which one do you think is a miracle, Lazarus or Kisa Gotami? Which one do you think is doing the miracle? — Jesus or Buddha?
Buddha was not doing a miracle at all, but if we understand it rightly, he was doing the miracle, because he was changing the woman from a mad state into a meditative state.
Today most Christians believe that:
– There is only one God. He is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe.
– God sent prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Joseph, John the Baptist, Jesus, etc.
– People should follow the Ten Commandments and the moral teachings of the prophets.
– Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virgin; therefore Jesus was born miraculously.
– Jesus Christ is the Messiah and he performed miracles.
– The Old testament/Torah and the new testament/Gospel) are holy scriptures.
– Satan is evil; therefore, people should not follow Satan.
– An Anti-Christ will appear on Earth before the Day of Judgment.
– Jesus Christ will return by descending from Heaven and will kill the Anti-Christ.
– The Day of Judgment will occur and people will be judged.
– There is hell and paradise.
The concept of God has 3 forms (Father, Son, Holy Ghost/ Spirit) – TRINITY was not adopted by Christianity until the Council of Nicea about 325 years after Jesus died. Some of the early Christians were Unitarians. Even today, there are Christian Unitarian churches that do not accept the Trinity. Modern Christianity was not founded by Jesus, but rather by Paul and the Romans in the Council of Nicea in 325 AD, inspired by Satan. In this Council of Nicea, Church leaders from around the world debated and finally decided on what should and what should not be included in the Bible. There were different views expressed in the Council; however, the views of the those who were most powerful won. As a result, lots of Gospels were thrown away. For Christianity to be adopted by the Roman Empire as its official religion, it had to succumb to the desires of the Romans who wanted to incorporate their own pagan religious beliefs and myths into Christianity. The integrity of the message brought by Jesus from God was compromised to appease the Roman Empire. Christianity has evolved into a cult that has deviated significantly from the true teachings of Jesus by: (a) adding new doctrines not preached by Jesus, (b) deleting or modifying some of the teachings of Jesus, and (c) creating an “unholy”, man-made scripture. A holy scripture must be in the form and content intended, inspired, or revealed by God, not created by human beings. These doctrines merely form a man-made hypothesis that defies the natural/inborn tendencies of people to worship only their creator. Trinity is a concept that was copied from a popular pagan religion of the Romans, called Mithraism. There are as verses in the Bible that contradict with the doctrine of Trinity. The Original Sin concept encourages people to sin as much as they want and not to do any good deeds. After all, regardless of their sins, Christianity teaches that Christians will be forgiven, saved and go to heaven as long as they believe in Jesus.
Warlord Muḥammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh created Islam to grab power from the other religions in the Middle East at the time. Before turned to be a prophet for fun and profit, Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh – the merchant traveled quite widely and met Jews, Christians and Greeks, whose ideas emerged later in the inspiration he claimed to receive from Allah. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh was charismatic and intelligent. Idiots don’t build empires, but they sometimes run empires, like Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus and George W Bush, but they never build empires. Founding an empire requires talent, intelligence, application, often charisma and ruthlessness. No halfwit or ignoramus has ever founded a civilization or started an empire.
It is not possible for a religion to arise which does evil and nothing more. Nobody would join it or bring their children up in it. Islam offered some improvements over the previous situation in pagan Arabia. The status of women improved, or so Muslims have claimed, they were no longer treated like field slaves to be whipped mercilessly, they rose in status to that of house slaves, to be patronized and whipped mercifully.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh also swept away much of the old order’s rigid structures of class, he had some tendencies which you could almost describe as egalitarian. Not democratic socialist of course, let’s not get carried away, but he did institute a taxation system which worked to alleviate absolute poverty. So, when you compare Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh to tyrants he stands alongside those tyrants who while conquering a lot of people, slaughtering his enemies, selling their children and raping their women did manage to do a few things to add to the positive side of the ledger. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh was a warlord, pure and simple. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh roused a disorganized group of nomadic tribes into a ruthless, fearless army. During his lifetime, Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh conquered the Arabia and his followers eventually extended those conquests from Spain to India. By all rights, Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh should take his place in history among of Alexander the Great, Genghis Kahn, and Tamerlane the Great as early history’s great military leaders. But when you compare him to great spiritual leaders like Confucius, Laozi or Gautama Buddha, well, Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh looks like a ruthless tyrant.
The claim that the status of women improved under Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh is disputed by many who say that the status of women went down under Islam. Women lost the right to own and control property. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh’s first wife, Khadijah, who was a wealthy widow and trader in her own right employed Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh before marrying him. Perhaps 25 years of being the husband of one older wife who was wealthy and powerful in her own right contributed to Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh’s rather extreme treatment of women.
Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh was a camel-mounted pirate, a warlord, a slave trader and the murderer of defenseless prisoners. During his ten years in Medina, Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh personally led 27 military attacks. Prior to his death, Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh conquered most of the Arabian peninsula. According to the Quranic verses written in Medina verses, Allah accepts converts who do not believe in him inwardly, but will kneel to him outwardly under threat of death. Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh did not have this view of Allah until he became a warlord and used force to compel people to accept his rule. In Mecca, Muhammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh had one wife. During his last 10 years of his life at Medina, Muhammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh married 12 more women. A warlord does not tolerate those who question his decrees. Similarly, Muslims are warned by their teachers that asking too many questions about why Allah commands something is a sign of impiety. The corruption of Muslim officialdom in many countiries seems to follow the pattern set by Mohammed ibn ʿAbd Allāh when he was a corrupt warlord.
Muḥammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh did not invent monotheism. The Pharaoh Akhenaten in Egypt’s 18th dynasty had put a single sun deity at the centre of worship 2,000 years before Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh. Monotheism makes totalitarianism and intolerance much easier. Monotheism is responsible for more human suffering than any idea ever thought up by humans, with the possible exception of the idea that faith is a virtue, but we can’t blame Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh. Whatever his myriad faults are originality of thought is not one of them.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh did not initiate slavery. Slavery had been universal across Africa, Asia and Europe for several thousands of years. Slavery was considered to be totally normal. We can’t blame Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh for inventing slavery. But Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh thoroughly endorsed slavery and engaged in the trading, keeping and taking of slaves himself. Nobody wants to be enslaved and making, keeping and trading of slaves is totally abhorrent under any circumstances. Slavery is wrong period.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh did not invent the barbaric and primitive practice of marrying very young girls. Joseph was a 90 years old man at the time of marriage with the Mary – Mother of Jesus od Nazreth. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh married Aisha at the age of 6, he watched over her until the age of 9 when he took her into his household as his wife, with all that this normally entails. Aisha was accused of being unfaithful to Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh declared that Aisha was innocent after a convenient divine revelation and decreed that from then on all accusations of adultery which includes rape require 4 reliable men as witnesses. Even today Muslim women are being thrown into prison or even stoned to death in places where sharia law is applied for the sin of being raped without enough 4 reliable men as witnesses.
The common claim that Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh was a pedophile is unfair. If this had been the case Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh could have had a lot more children in his tent. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh’s first marriage was to an older widow Khadijah, which lasted 25 years during which time he had no other wife. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh had something in the order of 16 wives and most of these were widows and older women. The statistics on the safety of childbirth among the under 14 give strong support to the idea that marriage at the first hint of puberty is an extremely bad example for any potential role-model to set. This bad example is blighting the lives of millions of girls and is directly responsible for many cases of miscarriage and horrific damage to young girls. Many women have a lifetime of incontinence and infertility because they followed the example of Islam’s “perfect man” Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh did not invent the ritual sacrifice of animals. The Jews had done it for thousands of years. Animal sacrifice was also done by many other civilizations including the Greeks.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh did not introduce animal sacrifice to Arabia as his tribe and many others had been sacrificing to their Pagan gods for centuries and the younger Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh himself had both sacrificed to pagan gods and eaten the meat of that sacrifice.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh took for granted that his followers would be having sex with the wives of the pagan warriors that they captured in the battles and the wives of the Jewish tribes that they had killed. Qur’an says that a Muslim may marry up to 4 wives and have sex with the captives that his right hand possesses, which refers to slave women captured in battle.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh did not invent the strange barbarous practice of circumcision. Jews copied male circumcision from the Egyptians. Circumcision was carried out across large parts of Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Even today the butchery of the genitals of young girls is widespread across Africa, practiced by Muslims, practitioners of African traditional religions and Christians. Female Genital Mutilation is very common in Egypt and Ethiopia among Christians, and it is not right to blame this on Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh.
Could you provide some references? I’m particularly interested in you claim that Joseph, the husband of Mary was 90 years old.
Warlord Abdulaziz raided many places in Najd to feed his family. On the night of January 15, 1902, 26 years old warlord Abdulaziz led 40 men climbed over the walls of the city of Riyadh on tilted palm trees and took the city of Riyadh. The Rashidi governor of the city of Riyadh, Ajlan, was killed in front of his own fortress – Masmak fort. Beginning with the conquest city of Riyadh in 1902, Warlord Abdulaziz consolidated his control over the Najd in 1922, and then conquered the Hijaz in 1925. The Wahhabis and UK supported warlord Abdulaziz and legitimized warlord Abdulaziz and his fight against the Ottoman Empire. Having conquered almost all of central Arabia, UK supported warlord Abdulaziz united his dominions into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1932 and changed his name as King Saud bin Abdulaziz. Since then the House of Saud always supports UK and its allies including USA. Warlord Abdulaziz married more than twenty women and fathered over sixty eight children including all of the subsequent kings of Saudi Arabia.Today more than 7,000 princes in the House of Saud, the result of multiple wives and lots of progeny.
In 1863 the Illuminati Ashkenazi Khazar Rothschilds used one of their agents in USA, John D. Rockefeller to form an oil business called Standard Oil which eventually took over all of its competition in USA. Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia in 1938 by US geologists working for Standard Oil. Standard Oil obtained a 50 year concession granted by Abdulaziz for an immediate payment of 30,000 gold sovereigns, veritably one of the greatest bargains in history. When the extent of breathtakingly large oil reserves became evident in Saudi Arabia, Exxon, Texaco Mobil and others joined in to form the mighty Aramco consortium.
In exchange for security of the House of Saud dynasty by USA, the Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth and revenues have been handed over for exploitation and benefit of the Zionists and their Wall Street Corporations. The House of Saud regime controls “the largest family business” in the world without any popular mandate or accountability.
When Warlord Abdulaziz took control of the Holy Places in Arabia from the Ottoman Empire with British support, he destroyed 15 centuries of Islamic heritage, including the desecration of the tombs of the wives and companions of the Holy Prophet, in the iconoclastic imposition of Wahhabism. The iconoclastic Wahhabi House of Saud gradually destroyed several holy shrines, including historical places of Islam from the Prophet’s house in Mecca and companion Ayoob Ansari’s house in Medina and turned them into apartment buildings and hotels. They also turned the site of the Prophet’s wives’ houses into a parking lot. Art, Music, dancing, laughing and weeping (including at funerals) have been forbidden by the Wahhabis. For a Wahhabi listening to music or dancing is haram but detonating explosive and killing innocent human beings is permissible.
To enforce Wahhabism morals enforcers known as mutawwiin have been integral to the Wahhabi movement since its inception. Mutawwiin serve as missionaries, as enforcers of public morals, and as “public ministers of the religion” who preach in the Friday mosque. In addition to enforcing male attendance at public prayer, the mutawwiin also have been responsible for supervising the closing of shops at prayer time, for looking out for infractions of public morality such as playing music, dancing, smoking, drinking alcohol, men having hair that is too long or women who are not fully covered and dressing immodestly.
The Wahhabi-backed warlord Abdulaziz took full control of the Hijaz, Mecca and Medina, in 1924 and established the modern state of Saudi Arabia, with Wahhabism as its official religion. Since then the House of Saud has promoted Wahhabism as normative Islam throughout the Islamic world. The House of Saud was consolidated on massive oil wealth and has spent huge sums of money building Wahhabi mosques, publishing Wahhabi literature and funding Wahhabi organizations world-wide. Today, with Wahhabi control of the Holy Places intact, virtually every aspect and corner of modern Islam has been penetrated by Wahhabi influence through the agency of the House of Saud.
Through the control of the Hajj – the beating heart of Islam – and through their vigorous publication and propaganda means, almost all the Muslims are infected with Wahhabism to some extent.
In Saudi Arabia there is no Church, Synagogue, Buddhist nor Hindu Temple is allowed. Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism) is NOT a religion of tolerance. Wahhabism provides the fundamental base for Jihadism which causes unending strife and misery. It is not Iran that should be bombed. In Iran there are still Jews living there and praying in their Synagogues. Muammar al-Gaddafi respected Christian and Jewish religions and their Churches, Synagogues in Libya but American, English, French, Saudi and Qatari financed terrorists destroyed Churches, Synagogues recently. Buddhist Temples including Bamiyan Buddha statues have survived in Islamic countries for centuries, but they could not survive under the Wahhabism.
Washington and London are protecting Wahhabi extremists. In Syria Christians and their Churches were safe before the Westerners began sending their Wahhabi fanatics to kill innocent Syrian civilians.
In Bosnia and Kosovo, under the guise of “reconstruction aid”, Saudi Arabia, Kuwaiti, and other Wahhabi organizations have demolished and removed major Islamic monuments (survived attacks by Serbian and Croatian militias) which were created by Muslims with an Islamic culture and tradition stretching back to 14th century long before Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab made his 1744 alliance with the warlord Muhammad Ibn Saud who founded the Saudi dynasty – House of Saud.
In post- Muammar al-Gaddafi Libya,Wahhabi Jihadists bulldozed several Libyan Sufi mosques (including the Tripoli’s Al-Shaab Al-Dahman mosque) and Sufi graves (including the tombs of Libyan Sufi scholars Abdullah al-Sha’ab, Abdel Salam al-Asmar and of soldiers who fought Spanish colonialists). Wahhabi Jihadists also burned down several historic Sufi libraries in Libya recently.
Since the start of the Arab Spring uprising by Wahhabi Jihadists, many Sufi sites have been attacked in Egypt, Mali and Libya by armed Wahhabi Jihadists.
Because control of the world’s oil reserves also meant control of the world economy, Middle East was a vital prize for any power interested in world influence or domination. Because of the stupendous source of strategic power of Middle East oil and the immense wealth from this unparalleled material prize UK and France reached a secret agreement in 1916 known as Asia Minor and divided the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East with UK cleverly keeping oil producing countries and even creating an artificial country like Kuwait. The 1945 signed memo between USA and UK says “US petroleum policy towards UK is predicated on a mutual recognition of a very extensive joint interest and upon control, at least for the moment, of the great bulk of the free petroleum resources of the world”. After the decline of UK and France, USA stepped in as the dominant neo-colonial power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Zionist policy is to keep the sources of oil in the Middle East under Zionist control. Zionist energy corporations have flourished with profits beyond the dreams of avarice with the Middle East their leading cash cow.
The Sunnis- Shiites divide is too deep rooted and plays out daily in most Islamic countries. Shiites form the underclass in most Sunni ruled countries, but after 1979 have felt inspired and aided by Iran, have become empowered in Lebanon and elsewhere. The Sunnis-Shiites conflict which can be seen in daily blood bath in Iraq and in the Muslim world throughout its history cannot be stopped by “Fatwas”.
Wahhabism is the only social structure in Saudi Arabia. There are no political parties, unions, or social organizations in Saudi Arabia. Wahhabi Saudi Arabia can not stay at peace with the Shia Islamic Republic of Iran.
Wahhabism is a desert cruelty used as a Muslim-Arab ideology to keep the House of Saud in power. The king of Saudi Arabia, Abdullah Aziz bin Saud, is 88 years old and the throne passes not from father to son but from brother to brother. Next in line to the throne Crown Prince Salman is already 77. While Saudi Arabia crumbles, massive oil revenues, which have long been used to buy public support, are being squeezed by sharply increased domestic demand and the Wahhabi Islamic establishment that supported the House of Saud is increasingly fractious and is losing credibility. High unemployment, corrupt bureaucracy, crippled economy, weak education system, and millions of frustrated youth are now battering Wahhabi Saudi Arabia.
Pakistan President Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq was a pariah till 1979 for having ousted Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and hanged him. But suddenly Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq became the darling of the Western countries when he offered space, facilities and soul for the Jihad in Afghanistan. The great Jihad in Afghanistan was a big opportunity for Wahhabis. Taliban was created with help and open recognition by Saudi Arabia and encouraged by USA to pacify Afghanistan after the chaos in the wake of withdrawal of Soviet troops. USA was interested in Zionists owned Union Oil using Afghanistan for petroleum pipe lines to transport central Asian energy to the Arabian Sea coast and beyond and to energy hungry fast developing India .Across Pakistan, the religious tenor has been correspondingly radicalised, the tolerant, Sufi-minded Barelvi form of Islam is now overtaken by the rise of the more hardliner and politicized Wahhabism. Remember Sri Lankan cricketers were ambushed in Lahore by armed Wahhabi Jihadists.
Wahhabi cadres trained in Pakistan and Afghanistan on return to their countries in Middle East spread that culture, which now threatens most of them and has seeped even into Europe , which hosts tens of millions of Muslims .
Present Zionist and Wahhabi doctrines foresee the fall of Iran, Belarus, and, ultimately Russia and China, after the fall of Damascus, to the combined forces of NATO and the Saudi- and Qatari-backed Wahhabis, who make up a large portion of the anti Syrian movement. Like Saudi Arabia, Qatar is also funds Wahhabi Jihadist movements world-wide. Saudi Arabia directly supported terrorist activities in several countries including Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Indonesia, Chechnya and Bosnia
As long as we cannot overcome our primitive fears, particularly that of our own mortality, religion will remain entrenched in the human consciousness Once the fear of our own mortality sets in, our ability to apprehend is lost, since the fear ear causes the brain’s activity to center itself in the brain stem, where the primitive brain resides and access to the reasoning part of the brain – neo cortex – becomes very difficult
We no longer need religion to the extent it had in the past and now the time has come for science to take a more prominent role in our life. I strongly believe that de-emphasizing religion will improve the quality of our life and assist the progress of our civilization. The purpose of religion is to control ourselves, not to criticize others
Imagination and projection and hallucination and illusion — they are all parts of the mind. Mind is the world — and going beyond the mind is the beginning of God.
People are fast asleep. Somebody is asleep as a Catholic, and somebody is asleep as a Hindu. That doesn’t matter — sleep is sleep.If a Catholic, a Hindu and a Muslim get too drunk, will there be any distinction, differentiation between their drunkenness The Catholic will behave as foolishly as the Hindu; and the Hindu will behave as stupidly as the Muslim. Once they are drunk, they are drunk. And people are asleep. It makes no difference what kind of theology you have used as a pillow for your sleep. Whether the pillow is blue or pink or white or red does not matter. Once you fall asleep, you fall asleep; the pillow becomes immaterial. Whether you are sleeping on the New Testament, on the Bhagavad Gita, on the Qur’an does not make any difference; you are using a pillow. Somebody is using the New Testament as the pillow, somebody else is using the Qur’an as the pillow. And you are snoring over your scriptures. And Jesus and Krishna and Allah remain strangers
Theology begins with a belief, with faith. And philosophy begins with doubt, logic, reason. Philosophy is thinking; theology is believing without thinking. No religion allows thinking, so no religion has a philosophy: they all have theologies.
Christianity does not have any philosophy, it has a theology. It says “believe” — believe in the savior, believe in Jesus Christ, believe that he is the only begotten son of God, believe in God, believe in the trinity. But it is always “believe,” and believing makes a man a hypocrite, because deep down you know that belief cannot become a truth. Deep down you know that this is only a belief; you have not experienced it. There is no base for it, it is baseless: a single doubt and the whole edifice will be shattered on the ground.
Now, a Christian believes that Jesus is born of a virgin mother. Can you think about it? If you think, doubt will be needed. You can only believe, and in believing… you know perfectly well that it is unnatural, it cannot happen.
Christianity says that Jesus was resurrected after his death. You have to believe it because there is no proof, no evidence. In the contemporary literature of Jesus Christ’s life, even the name of Jesus is not mentioned. Do you think a phenomenon like a man getting crucified, getting resurrected, would go unnoticed? that a man who brings dead people to life would not be reported anywhere? that a man who walks on water…?
Do you think this man would have been crucified? He would have been hailed as the messiah by the Jews themselves, because what more do you want? — none of your other prophets have done anything of this kind. But there is not even a mention that there was such a person as Jesus Christ. And he did not have a big following.
If you think, you cannot believe in these things. If you think about God, you cannot believe. So Christianity has no philosophy. No religion can afford to be philosophical; it can only remain theological.
All the organized religions care basically depriving humanity of religion because they are misdirecting you. They are always directing you outwards — their God is far away in the sky. And when you pray, folding your hands towards the sky, you don’t realize that there is nobody to hear you.
In fact, the one who is praying, the one who is alive in you, the one who is breathing in you, is the God.
You have just to discover it.
All the religions believe that God created the world including people. But if we are created by someone, we are only puppets, we don’t have our own soul. And if we are created by somebody, he can uncreate us any moment. He neither asked us whether we wanted to be created, nor is he going to ask us: “Do you want to be uncreated?” All the strings are in his hands, even our life. Then there is no question of any enlightenment. There is no freedom at all. God pulls the strings, we dance; he pulls the strings, we cry; he pulls the strings, we start war, murders, suicide. We are just a puppet and he is the puppeteer. Then there is no question of sin or virtue, no question of sinners and saints. Nothing is good and nothing is bad, because we are only puppets. A puppet cannot be responsible for its actions. Responsibility belongs to someone who has the freedom to act. Either God can exist or freedom, both cannot exist together.
If we accept God as the creator, we are destroying the whole dignity of consciousness, of freedom, of love. We are taking all responsibility from man, and we are taking all his freedom away. We are reducing the whole of existence to just the whim of a strange fellow called God.
If there is no God and man is free, that will simply mean man is now capable of doing anything, good or bad; there is nobody to judge him, nobody to forgive him. This freedom will be simply licentiousness.
God was non-existential, but it was a good consolation. It used to fill people’s interior, although it was a lie. But even a lie, repeated thousands and thousands of times for millennia, becomes almost a truth. God has been a great consolation to people in their fear, in their dread, in their awareness of old age and death, and beyond – the unknown darkness. Lies can console you, you have to understand it. In fact lies are sweeter than the truth. Truth is bitter in the beginning, sweet in the end, and lies are sweet in the beginning, bitter in the end – when they are exposed. Then comes a tremendous bitterness, that we have been deceived by all our parents, by all our teachers, by all our priests, by all our so-called leaders. We have been continuously deceived. That frustration brings up a great distrust in everybody. Nobody is worthy of trust…It creates a vacuum. The stars and sun and moon, the trees and birds and earth – everything in the universe will feel a small place is vacant which cannot be filled by anybody except you. This gives you a tremendous joy, a fulfillment that you are related to existence, and existence cares for you. Once you are clean and clear, you can see tremendous love falling on you from all dimensions.
When you see the rose flowers blossoming, have you ever thought that all this color, all this softness, all this beauty was hidden somewhere in the seed? But the seed alone was not enough to become a rose, it needed the support of existence – the soil, the water, the sun. Then the seed disappeared into the soil and the rosebush started growing. Now it needs air, it needs water, it needs the earth, it needs the sun, it needs the moon. All these together transform the seed which was almost like a dead piece of stone. Suddenly a transformation, a metamorphosis. These roses, these colors, this beauty, this fragrance, cannot come from it unless existence has it already. It all may be hidden, it may be covered in the seed. But anything that happens means it was there already – maybe as a potential. You have intelligence…