Nick R. Martin has tried to gather together the facts about the events that happened on that night when Martin was killed. It still depends on some hearsay evidence but at least it tries to ground the events in reality and dispenses with the speculations.
Mar 31 2012
The facts on the Trayvon Martin case
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slc1
March 31, 2012 at 12:36 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Reads like a fair description of the incident, not leaning one way or the other. As I stated on a previous thread, what’s needed here is a fair and impartial investigation by an outside investigative agency. What is most disconcerting are many of the comments on the article, which clearly are written by folks who have made up their minds. The case of the Duke lacrosse players should be recalled before hanging Zimmerman from the nearest tree branch.
Fred5
March 31, 2012 at 1:17 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Since when did Sharpton ever learn anything from the past. This is just his typical style of whipping the sheeple up into a frenzy and then denying he had anything to do with the violence that results. I commend to you Tawana Brawley and the arson of Freddie’s Fashion Mart as excellent examples of Sharpton’s demagoguery and the results thereof.
Unfortunately, he will not be advocating for the victims described here or here.
Can you figure out why?
Dalillama
March 31, 2012 at 1:32 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
What the hell does the Martin’s suspension have to do with anything? The only conceivable reason to bring that up is to attempt to smear Martin, particularly given that there is no indication of violence. The facts are clear: Zimmerman stalked Martin through the nighttime streets and then shot him. Had Zimmerman not, as was his habit, decided that a random black teen was a criminal on no evidence whatsoever, and proceeded to pursue him in contravention of both the dispatcher’s advice and simple common sense, no one would have died or been injured that night. That is the only relevant fact of the evening, and it puts responsibility squarely on Zimmerman’s shoulders. He wanted to play out his Dirty Harry fantasy, and Martin had the misfortune to be there when there were no witnesses.
Jack Bosch
April 1, 2012 at 5:53 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
The last post demonstrates perfectly the underlying problem that is really the problem in this country. How does one have a logical discussion with that? I am hesitant to go on any further because there is certainly the possibility of sarcasm if not a blatant illustration of absurdity by being (totally) absurd.
at I find particularly interesting, is the medias sheer delight in stirring the pot, even if it means coming up with a new label “White Hispanic” Their behavior is just as despicable at the good Rev Al. Wouldn’t it be really great if we lived in a country where we had a justice system in place that started with the assumption that all men were created equal and that they were innocent until proven guilty? Wow! What a concept, huh?
Jared A
April 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I agree that people should try to remain unemotional and wait to judge before the facts are in. But the reason that it’s really hard, is because it is human nature to empathize with people. I guess that most people want to side with the whatever sounds most threatening to themselves.
For me it is terrifying to think that if some random neighborhood watch person gets the wrong idea about me and start shouting at me. Since he isn’t a cop, it would be very intimidating, and I might think he is a mugger or something. I might run!
Sure, this might not be an accurate picture of what happened. But it is so easy to imagine that it is. And once you’ve imagined it, and imagined it happening to you, it is so hard to keep your emotions out of this.
My perception is already colored by how I feel about vigilantism in general. And I don’t think calling this related to vigilantism is jumping to conclusions. Just by having a gun and being on neighborhood watch, Mr. Zimmerman is some type of vigilante.