There was a #pizzagate rally today?


YouTube loon David Seaman apparently organized a rally in Washington DC to mobilize people to fight against a nonexistent pedophilia ring run out of a nonexistent basement at a pizza parlor. A “couple dozen” people showed up, but about the only coverage it’s getting is a few comments on Twitter.

This is a nonsensical story that has only gained a relatively small number of advocates, but the few are fanatical.

I’m so sorry for those poor kids. Not the imaginary ones kidnapped by a pizza parlor, but those three kids stuck with parents with a bizarre obsession.

Comments

  1. slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    people who don;t like to think latch onto conspiracies to explain things they hear and refuse to form questions about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  2. Rich Woods says

    “We are issuing this statement because we think it is the right thing to do,” Jones said. “It is never easy to admit when your commentaries are based on inaccurate information, but we feel like we owe it to you, the listeners, viewers and supporters, to make that statement

    It certainly isn’t easy to admit that your rants are based on inaccurate information, Alex Jones. Your entire business model depends upon it.

  3. blf says

    testing

    Can’t say I’ve ever heard of this pizza topping(?). Is it an animal, vegetable, mineral, cheese, or lunatic?

  4. wzrd1 says

    If I was still in the D.C. area, I’d probably order and pick up a pizza from that poor fellow’s shop. I’m sure that the lunatic brigade have cost him a fair amount of business.

  5. gijoel says

    @3 Read the New Hate by Arthur Goldwag, he does a very good job of breaking down the conspiracy mindset. TL:DR; conspiracy theorist like to see the world in black and white moral absolutes. That civilization is a titanic struggle between good and evil, and that your misfortune is the result of shadowy forces working against you, and not the result of your own misjudgements.

  6. tacitus says

    Alex Jones actually apologized for spreading that nonsense. Well, sort of apologized.

    I guess the threat of a lawsuit is getting real. I suspect he’s beginning to discover that when your business model depends on defaming people, developing a national profile and becoming a multimillionaire is a risky business.

    A month ago, Jones was supposedly champing at the bit to defend himself against a Pizzagate lawsuit, claiming he would finally get to the truth, but his lawyers must have had other ideas since…

  7. says

    I have to think this is a goof, as we used to call it, at least for some of these people. I mean, it’s just so outlandish.

  8. gijoel says

    In a way this isn’t any different to the 80s satanic panic. It’s that it was real, it’s that they want it to be real.

  9. says

    numerobis, apparently some of the cranks on our side of the border have decided Trudeau was involved with Pizzagate, or something similar in Canada. Why someone at an American protest would bring it up is an obvious question.

    (I’m listening to Cabaret Voltaire as I type this, which seems appropriate.)

  10. erik333 says

    @9 gijoel

    That sounds like a description of just about anybody rather than something than something setting conspiracy theorists apart from other demographics.

  11. blf says

    That sounds like a description of just about anybody rather than something than something setting conspiracy theorists apart from other demographics.

    Eh? “Just about anybody”?
    Consider (all ●-pointed quotes from @9’s “TL;DR” synopsis):

    ● “see the world in black and white”;
    ● “moral absolutes”;
    ● “civilization is a titanic struggle between good and evil”;
    ● “your misfortune is the result of shadowy forces”;
    ● “[those shadowy forces are] working against you”;
    ● “[your own misfortune is] not the result of your own misjudgements [sic]”.

    Everyone probably exhibits one or more of those items at times or in some contexts (e.g., pedophilia is always wrong is a moral absolute), and everyone can be fooled and perhaps sometimes engage in conspiratorial-thinking sometimes. However, the point is† conspiracy theorists engage in most-or-all of the above far too much of the time.

    The difference, I speculate, is how often any of above is done, and how much of the above is done concurrently (that is, at the same time). The more often much of the above is done, the more likely the person is too conspiracy-minded.

      † I’m guessing here to some extent, as I haven’t read the book.

  12. says

    The Canadian poster is weird, but I guess someone has connected it to Pizzagate. Cathy O’Brien a conspiracy theorist who claims the CIA forced her to take part in Project MKULTRA mind control experiments. Apparently she claims that she was abused by both Pierre Trudeau and Brian Mulroney, at least according to a Pizzagate thread I saw. So it appears the people who made that poster were unaware there is a difference, or believes in the sins of the father being passed to the child.

  13. blf says

    [… S]he claims that she was abused by both Pierre Trudeau and Brian Mulroney

    Also — I assume — a Tibean yeti, eight of the Seven Dwarfs, and a basketball.

  14. militantagnostic says

    Here is some background on the shit weasel behind the “protest”.

    Travis @18 – But, what does the Cathy O’Brien have to do with the Indian Act or vice versa? I wonder if somebody just happened to have that sign from a previous protest, so they brought it. Apparently one of the speakers was wearing a propeller hat.