The confederate flag starts coming down

The South Carolina legislature has voted to remove the confederate flag from the state grounds and it was done at 10:00am today to the accompaniment of cheers from the assembled crowd. This follows a wave of other steps taken by other southern states to remove the flag from public display.

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Some defenders keep insisting that the secession of the confederacy had nothing to with slavery and thus the flag was not a symbol of support for that odious institution. I am by no means a scholar of the Civil War but it is hard to read the declaration of independence by South Carolina adopted on December 24, 1860 and not feel convinced that they were trying to preserve slavery.

But while the South Carolina legislature moves to correct its past support for the flag, the US Congress seems to have got itself into a mess with some members trying to preserve the display of the flags in national cemeteries.

[House Speaker John] Boehner was forced to halt consideration of a government funding measure after it became engulfed by the Confederate flag controversy and whether it was appropriate to display the flags at national cemeteries where Confederate soldiers are buried.

The dispute pitted Southern conservatives who asserted that the tradition was part of their heritage against members of the Congressional Black Caucus who view the flag as a symbol of slavery and oppression.

It is true that removing the flag is just a symbolic gesture but symbols can be important, and the rise of the rainbow flag and the lowering of the confederate flag powerfully symbolizes some of the changes for the better that are taking place in US society these days.




  1. Some Old Programmer says

    The Confederacy was absolutely about preserving slavery; I don’t see how any honest review of history, however cursory, could avoid that conclusion.

    The Confederate flag, as a representation of the Confederacy and its defense of slavery is bad enough. But the adoption of the flag as a symbol of the South was taken up in the teeth of the Civil Rights movement of the mid-20th century as a wholly un-subtle declaration of resistance to integration, voting rights, and the other efforts to dismantle Jim Crow. Those claiming the flag represents mere “heritage” — without the obvious racist baggage — are playing silly buggers. Some politicians go along with that gauzy veneer to keep their political career alive (separating the true believers from the opportunists is left as an exercise to the voter).

    Such is “post-racial” America.

  2. moarscienceplz says

    Some defenders keep insisting that the secession of the confederacy had nothing to with slavery and thus the flag was not a symbol of support for that odious institution.

    The people of the State of South Carolina, … declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right.

    They defined themselves foremost as a slaveholding state, and declared that slaveholding states were the ones being encroached upon. Maybe I’m way off base, but I’m starting to feel that slaveholding was a key issue here.

  3. corwyn says

    If you are talking about the the legislature, slavery vs states rights, isn’t even the question. Flying the flag of a defeated foreign power on a government building is just all kinds of wrong.

  4. StevoR says

    Good, the flag of hate, slavery and treason has been lowered and the rainbow flag of love triumphing overhate raised inits place -great to see and learn. Great cartoon and I think this article :

    Excerpt :

    Given the millions who suffered under the whip of slave masters, and all the families separated as slave traders sold sons and daughters away from their parents, and wives away from their husbands, All Americans should recoil from the Confederate flag with the same horror we feel for the Nazi swastika.

    is spot on too.

    Hopefully this marks a tipping point towards real and lasting change for the better. About time!

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