Yes! Push that piss baby billionaire right over the edge!


Elon Musk had another bad week. He was interviewed, and the interviewer asked mildly challenging questions, and poor little Elon melted down publicly. It’s what he always done. He has the most fragile ego.

I agree with Jamelle Bouie that we need to push harder.

As he points out at the end, all of Musk’s enterprises seem to be papier mache facades. OK, SpaceX has a good technological core because he bought good engineers, but everything else is falling apart (and even SpaceX is floundering lately). He’s not worth a trillion dollars…and that already fell apart fast. Now is the time to make him squirm more over Tesla and Hyperloop and Neuralink and his fake androids and the hash he’s made of Twitter. He’s so mentally unstable it’ll prompt an unseemly collapse.

Then we have to work on Bezos…

Comments

  1. John Morales says

    Not often I see an idiom that is novel to me, so I looked it up:

    To those that may not be fluent in Gen Z’s esoteric form of absurdist humor, 1000 gecs might seem like a chaotic mess of nonsensical sonics, but beneath the surface lies an incredibly technical and experimental foundation. Take “money machine,” for instance — a song that opens with the lyrics, “Hey lil piss baby/ You think you’re so fucking cool, huh?/ You think you’re so fucking tough/ You talk a lotta big game for someone with such a small truck,” delivered in a whiny chipmunk voice, before descending into a chorus of scraping power chords that are kind of like a cross between Skrillex and SOPHIE. It’s bizarre, a bit silly, but for the exact same reason, endlessly fascinating.

    (https://www.papermag.com/100-gecs-money-machine)

  2. Becca Stareyes says

    It’s fascinating to me how much some people with absurd amounts of money also have egos made of tissue paper, and also need control over as much of the public discourse as possible so that people can’t say mean things about them, or even imply they are mistaken or don’t know everything. But they also can’t shut up or stick to controlled media events.

  3. John Morales says

    Wow. Just watched the video.
    I can’t see the alleged problem.
    I get it’s Jamelle’s personal opinion, but I am less than impressed by its lack of basis.

    [relevant bit of transcript]

    This was a somewhat adversarial interview. Not terribly adversarial, but there was real push back on Musk and he didn’t react well to it. The portion that people are really paying attention to is when Musk denies being a racist and then has a kind of mini meltdown:
     
    [interviewer] “that this man who has all this power, he’s the world’s richest man. He thinks he has a right to influence our politics.
    It makes people It’s why, you know, we started this conversation saying superlatives. It’s why people loathe you. I mean, some people do loathe you.
    [Musk] Yes, some people do.
    [I] But do you understand why? Do you think what you’re doing is helpful for Western democracy?
    [M] Maybe maybe some people do loathe me. I and that’s and that’s probably true. I don’t care. Um the uh but but the fact that uh as you pointed out a quarter billion people follow me is that I think a lot more people actually like me than don’t. And I think a lot more people hate you and the media uh more than you realize.

    How that is supposedly a meltdown is left unstated. And that’s it. No other adduced ‘meltdown’.

  4. fishy says

    The thing that should bother more people than it does, in that snippet, is that he immediately runs to, “I’m rubber and you’re glue.”

  5. CompulsoryAccount7746, Sky Captain says

    PZ:

    the interviewer asked mildly challenging questions

    Elia Ayoub (Journalist): “[Video clip] ‘I see, alright, fair point’ from the interviewer after Musk pulled numbers out of his ass [about USAID]. Musk clearly believes the grokified info swamp on the platform he owns. If you can’t push back on his bs don’t interview him.”

    Musa Okwonga: “[Video clip] The editor in chief of The Economist referring here to the AfD’s leader [Alice Weidel] as a ‘perfectly thoughtful person’ instead of what she truly is—a driver and enabler of German fascism—is a huge part of the problem.”
     

    poor little Elon melted down publicly.

    Jamelle Bouie in the OP video: “After the interview on X, he basically spent hours re-litigating the entire thing, calling his interlocutor a traitor to the West, denouncing her for her perfidy in questioning him and pushing back on his claims.”

    Sunder Katwala (British Future): A thread about Musk’s frequent use of ‘traitor’, including that instance.

  6. says

    And no one’s even mentioning Theralink Neuralink anymore. Does Neuralink even still exist? Have they got anything on the market yet?

    John: I agree with fishy here: it may not qualify as a “meltdown”, but his response was definitely rattled, defensive, and kind of childish; first pretending he didn’t care if people hated him, then insisting people hated the interviewer more. (And did he address the original question?)

    PS @1: Sounds like the Chipmunks went death-metal-hip-hop.

  7. Larry says

    Of course, having the orange pedophile in your corner can pay huge benefits. To wit, the pentagon announced a $1.8B contract with space to launch 18 falcon 9 vehicles with missile tracking payloads.

    Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

  8. John Morales says

    Raging Bee, no, he did not address it. He used evasive bluster.
    If that is being a ‘piss baby’, sure, but then, so is pretty much every single politician and public figure in any interview by that standard.

    Me, I have personally seen proper meltdowns. Maybe even had one or two myself.
    What we Aussies term ‘spitting the dummy’. Much excitement.
    That was not that.

    (I also now know what type of person Jamelle is, having checked a bit of his corpus, not just this video)

  9. CompulsoryAccount7746, Sky Captain says

    Raging Bee @7:

    Does Neuralink even still exist?

    STAT – What does Neuralink want—to help people with paralysis, or prepare for a war with AI? (2026-01)

    As of September, only 12 people had a Neuralink chip implanted in their brain to control digital and physical tools through thought. The company also hasn’t resolved how to prevent the electrodes that pick up brain activity from retracting after being surgically implanted
    […]
    Sowing confusion about who and what your devices treat is not smart, said Kip Ludwig […] referring to the conflicting messaging from Neuralink. Musk has claimed that Neuralink’s device can treat addiction or depression. “If the CEO of the company keeps on saying that your clinical trial is showing things that the data that you’re sending do not show, you can really hurt yourself in the process,” […] The company has six ongoing trials listed publicly: four bearing the “PRIME” label that are testing the initial safety and functionality of Neuralink’s implant in different countries, while the others are evaluating whether the device can help people speak and even move a robotic arm. Michael Lawton, a neurosurgeon who helped install the company’s inaugural device in Noland Arbaugh, called Musk a “visionary,” but pumped the brakes on some of his rhetoric around AI and superhumans.
    […]
    From its inception, Neuralink has paired grandiose messaging with more humdrum on-the-ground results. It’s hard to determine the company’s priorities. The company rarely grants interviews and has, until recently, sidestepped the typical scientific communication process of peer-reviewed papers in favor of social media updates […] Neuralink submitted in October what could become its first publication to a scientific journal, the New England Journal of Medicine, reportedly describing safety data gathered from its first three patients.
    […]
    When asked why Musk and [Neuralink Prez] Seo make grand claims, Ludwig said, “[Elon] is either wrong or lying, I haven’t figured out which. Same thing for DJ Seo.” He added later, “you might be able to find a bunch of engineers who think it’s cool, but they have never done regulatory approval. Talk to people who got medical devices approved, they just laugh.”

    Dallas Express – First human transdural implant (2026-07)

    Neuralink announced […] it has performed the first implantation of its electrode threads directly through the brain’s protective dura membrane in a human clinical trial participant, leaving the dura intact. […] The participant began controlling a computer cursor with their thoughts within an hour of surgery, with recovery progressing as expected.
    […]
    The dura mater is a tough, leathery membrane that acts as the brain’s primary protective layer […] In traditional neurosurgery and prior Neuralink procedures, surgeons performed a durectomy—cutting or removing part of this membrane—to access the cortex below. This step is delicate because the dura can be over 10 times thicker than Neuralink’s electrode threads, which are thinner than a human hair. The brain moves constantly beneath it, and the membrane obscures blood vessels that must be avoided.
    […]
    In this first-of-its-kind clinical trial procedure, […] surgeons inserted the ultra-thin electrode threads straight through the intact dura and into the cortex. […] This required advanced transdural imaging to visualize vessels through the opaque tissue and precision-engineered needles capable of piercing the tough membrane reliably. Extensive preclinical testing validated the approach before human use.

  10. StevoR says

    …even SpaceX is floundering lately..

    It is? What are you referring to there?The latest Starship flight was pretty successful :

    ..the third launch attempt on July 24 was successful and became the first Starship flight to deploy operational satellites, 20 Starlink satellites were deployed in suborbit and made contact with ground receivers.

    …(snip)..

    Flight Test 13 resulted in a successful test of Ship 40, from stage separation to splash down, completing verification for a future orbital flight with testing of an in-space Starship engine relight.[22][23] Shortly after flight test 13 Elon Musk announced that flight test 14 would include catching the Starship with the “Mechazilla” launch tower which would require the Starship to have entered orbit first.

    Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_flight_test_13

    Looking at the timeline there you can see it met almost all its goals and so not sure where the idea that SpacweX is “floudnering” is coming from.

    Felon Musk, OTOH, yeah, he is definitely floundering right now.

  11. andywuk says

    Musk enthusiastically closed down USAID directly resulting in the excess deaths of 600,000+ people and is on course to result in the deaths of millions more.

    Even if it was at the direction of Donald Trump, as a “genius” the consequences of his actions should have been obvious to Musk.

    He’s a monster.

    Against that, Elon’s fragility under cross-examination is trivial in comparison.

  12. John Morales says

    Against that, Elon’s fragility under cross-examination is trivial in comparison.

    But that’s the featured headline!

    You yourself claim Jamelle made a trivial claim, andywuk.

    Makes for good clickbait, but no substance.

  13. CompulsoryAccount7746, Sky Captain says

    StevoR @12.
    In the Infinite Thread, I linked a Pamela Gay thread about SpaceX’s prospectus.

    Wikipedia – Initial public offering of SpaceX

    Roughly a month after the record-breaking $75 billion Nasdaq debut, and only days after analysts at more than a dozen underwriting banks published almost uniformly bullish 12-month price targets, SpaceX shares fell below their $135 IPO price and continued sliding toward $123–125—nearly 40% below the peak of $211. […]

    Professor Jay Ritter at the University of Florida—a leading authority on IPOs—argues this uniformity reflects “copycat” behavior, where banks anchor to each other’s numbers rather than independently modeling a company with no profitable track record, arguing it’s inherently difficult to value a firm that lost $4.9 billion on under $19 billion of revenue in 2025 (105x sales) and spends $5 for every $4 it collects. With no established profitability or comparable metrics/benchmarks to draw on, analysts default to appending a large, generically bullish percentage gain rather than genuinely differentiated valuation work […] The article notes the underwriters collectively earned about $500 million (a 0.66% fee) from the offering, creating a structural incentive to publish optimistic research supporting the deal they had just sold to clients.

  14. StevoR says

    @ ^ CompulsoryAccount7746, Sky Captain & Silentbob – 30th July 2026 at 10:57 pm : Okay. So financially, verty temporarily on the gauge of rich folks feelings a.k.a. stock market not in terms of actual performance I gather. Fair enough albeit not sure how much meaning and significance to give the stock market since it fluctuates and changes so quickly and means so little in tangible, longer lasting, real world terms.

    .***

    Novara media has this discussion on Musk’s interview – Elon Musk Gives CHILLING Interview To The Economist lasting for 20 mins.

    LABEL

  15. John Morales says

    CompulsoryAccount7746, SpaceX is not Elon Musk. Nor is USAid. Nor is Neuralink. Nor is the Boring Co.

    (Metonyms are figures of speech)

  16. says

    John Morales: This thread was 33% Morales. It’s too much. I’m asking you to cut back, to maybe no more than 20% Morales, which ought to be an achievable goal for the future. I may later ask you to pare it back further in future threads.

  17. rorschach says

    @16,
    “With no established profitability or comparable metrics/benchmarks to draw on, analysts default to appending a large, generically bullish percentage gain rather than genuinely differentiated valuation work”

    I recommend anyone interested in the AI and SpaceX Ponzi watch Cory Doctorow’s recent interview with Jon Stewart.

    Essentially, AI companies currently spend one trillion a year, and earn 50 billion in revenue. Every new customer makes it more expensive for them, because it increases their use of power and computing. Apparently with the NASDAQ trickery (accepting SpaceX on the index) certain funds were forced to buy the share, even if they questioned the price. It’s all to prop up an industry that is losing comical amounts of money.

  18. Kagehi says

    @12 StevoR

    The problem with SpaceX is two fold – 1) He, and his “engineers”, keep insisting on making a stupidly big rocket as the final goal (even if they have a functionally OK one now). This is a basic physics problem. No one had developed a fuel system, or an engine system to go with it, which can provide sufficient thrust to launch such a thing, safely or otherwise, outside of some insane theories involving the literal use of micro-nuclear detonations. 2) When NASA set goals, they managed to do all this, already, in arguably less time, with fewer overall problems, because, with some specific exceptions, they a) had fairly decent safety standards, which improved over time, at least up until a combination of complacency and pressure to run more and more missions, with less and less resources, and time between launches, led to a degradation of those standards. SpaceX seems to be on a damned speed run towards this state, driven in large part by the fact that Musk himself, and his crazy Mars obsession, is the primary source of the push to get this working as fast as possible, how ever idiotic the end goal may be, and the number of partial or complete failures that have happened due to this… But, yeah, of course, they claim all those (many, many, many) oopsies are “as designed”, somehow…

    About the only thing they have done right imho, so far, imho, is not put too many people, a teacher, or Big Bird, on one of their flights, and had it explode on launch yet. And, frankly, I don’t trust them to not do all three at some point (or the equivalent), having “solved all their problems”, then being disastrously wrong, the second they say so.

  19. says

    There are too many egregious, wasteful, criminal actions by the elongated muskrat to list here or almost anywhere. It is my fervent wish and hope that he and all his destructive, misbegotten projects ‘disappear in a little cloud of greasy black smoke’.

  20. StevoR says

    @22. shermanj : As long as that doesn’t include SpaceX as a space agency I’m cool with that.

  21. epawtows says

    I hear he had better luck with NarwhalLink. It actually works pretty well; but it only connects to Arctic toothed aquatic mammals. Something about seawater conductivity and the capacitance of a long spiraled tusk. /s

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