Like any commercial from Big Pharma, you should pay close attention to the long list of terrible side effects. I’ve been on this thing for decades, and “not listening, thinking bad ideas are fantastic, and a condescending tone” are really common; I have managed to escape the symptom of “war crimes” so far.
CaitieCat, Harridan of Social Justice says
Not bad. Be nice if trans people existed in their world, but we’re used to not being noticed.
PZ Myers says
Maybe that’s just as well, though. It wouldn’t exactly work if becoming a transgender woman was the cure for being a woman.
Charly says
Funny. In a very sad way.
Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk- says
What Caitie said, but apart from that, yeah.
File under “things are complicated”, because yeah, it’s not actually about who we are, but about what people think we are….
Caturday Nite says
I found the cure for being assigned Male at birth. So, it IS who we are in our head. I just had a gal in there the whole time and the Gal was me. Sad that there has to be Comedy about this topic. Really sad. As you transition you realized how good I had it as a guy on the outside, even though it did make me very unhappy. Rather be the way I am now though. Much improved outlook on things, even though I have to deal with the way things are in the world. At least it’s on my terms, for the most part.
chris61 says
Strange. I didn’t find it funny at all. I thought it was insulting.
J Hart says
Hey, everyone, I’m with you an’ all but I just wanted to point out the 2016 Nikon photomicrography winner is a Zebrafish embryo! Yay! That said, how ’bout them Cub’s, eh? Oh, hell. Um, I hear those damn embryos are mostly Trump voters, what with their lack of development ‘n all.
Ariaflame, BSc, BF, PhD says
It was insulting, it was insulting the patriarchy. If you’re on the side of the patriarchy then yes it was making fun of you.
Saad says
chris61, #6
Of course you would. Some of us are familiar with stance on sexism.
What is it that you guys like to say? TRIGGERED!!!11
Saad says
*your stance on sexism.
prae says
Am I the only one who is concerned with the sperm and egg cell not only having both sex chromosomes, but also apprently impregnating a fetus?
Holms says
It bothers me more than it should that the germ cells were both diploid.
#1
Well, it did skip over a *large* number of inequalities, it was hardly setting out to be exhaustive.
chris61 says
#8 & #9 How is it not insulting and victim-blaming to imply that all a woman needs to do to not fear rape is to don a piece of male clothing?
Charly says
@chris61 #13
You seem to miss the point of the joke – that a woman, in order to not being subjected to negative effects of patriarchal sexist society, would need to stop being (perceived as) a woman.
Owlmirror says
@chris61:
Poe’s law bites everywhere, I guess.
Just as Jonathan Swift did not actually intend for people to eat Irish babies, but rather to highlight the cruelty and injustice of English rule in Ireland, so too this video does not actually intend to state that appearing like a man will solve all problems for women, but rather to highlight the pervasiveness of male privilege and rape culture.
Saad says
chris61, #13
It’s saying that men attack people who look like women to them. It’s not telling women what to do to avoid being raped.
It’s a humorous video aimed at men, not a public service announcement aimed at women.
chris61 says
@16 Saad
That may be how you interpret it but that’s not what it’s saying. It’s saying that women feel in danger of attack from men.
Based on its source I think it likely that it is intended as a humorous video aimed at men but how I saw it was as a video mocking women as creatures needing to be ‘cured’ of being frightened and lacking in confidence and that the ‘cure’ was to behave more like men.
Rowan vet-tech says
Hi chris61. This may surprise/dismay you but I, a woman who has been stalked twice and narrowly escaped rape on two separate instances, a woman who has had plenty of men pet her hair and then be offended when I told them not to, who had a male client at my last job attempt to kiss me on the mouth, do indeed feel in danger of attack from men.
Also, your interpretation is… frankly wrong. Like, totally wrong. So wrong that I’m not even certain how you’ve managed to be so incredibly wrong.
rq says
Funny that, I do.
Saad says
chris61, #17
That is one of the big problems caused by men. Deal with it.
That’s because you’re pretending to miss the point.
It’s not telling women what they should be doing. It’s telling men what they keep doing.
Saad says
chris61, #17
I mean, you’re almost there. Why is it telling women to behave more like men?
Go on. You can do it.
quotetheunquote says
@Owlmirror – Funny thing, I thought of Swift right away too, you beat me to it.
Holms says
You are apparently unaware of the fact that your perception of the message of the video is just as much an interpretation as anyone else’s. You don’t get to deride other people’s take on the video as mere interpretation without that also applying to your own; you definitely don’t get to present your own interpretation as objective truth.
Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk- says
It’s because we do?
I mean, maybe in your life you have never had to walk home alone in the dark. Or you didn’t go to a college where the administration warned you about some guy who attacked and tried to abduct women in the carpark. Or you were never cornered by a guy, groped by a guy. And if none of this has ever happened to you, I’m honestly glad. But “women” meaning here “the majority of all people who identify as female” do feel in danger of attack from “men”, meaning “people who identify as male in certain situations. #Notallmen, #notalltimes, but I doubt that most women’s reaction to some dude walking behind them in the car park would be the same as to some woman walking behind them in the car park.
chris61 says
Sigh. I guess I didn’t make myself clear. I don’t disagree that women feel in danger of attack from men but I think that implying that it is women’s fear that needs ‘curing’ or that dressing as a man would solve the problem that is insulting. You all interpret the video differently and find it amusing, good for you. I don’t.
FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says
You don’t find it funny, fair enough. But…
You look at a skit where the women dress up in completely unconvincing costumes and are then treated as if they are men and think that the message is that women *should* dress up as men? Really? And based on that flawed assumption you’re insulted somehow? That’s utterly mysterious to me.
Being unquestioningly identified as a man *will* solve the problem because men and women are treated differently in our society. That’s the point. It’s illustrative of the problem, not a prescription of a real solution, and the ridiculousness of the disguises makes this clear. No one in their right mind would expect such a costume to be effective.
Rowan vet-tech says
chris61, maybe if you didn’t take the video as literal advice you wouldn’t find it insulting. The absurdity of the ‘condition’, the ‘cure’, and the ‘side effects’ list shows that this is, indeed, not literal advice. It is, instead, very much poking fun at *men*, their attitudes and their prejudices… and mocking them by having the idea that wearing a short hair wig (over obvious and still visible long hair) and a business suit would actually fool them.
chigau (違う) says
chris61
Did you actually watch the whole video?
And read all the words at the bottom of the screen?
Vivec says
I found Swift’s assertion that we consume irish children to be incredibly offensive. You might claim that this was “satire”, but that’s just one interpretation. You can interpret one way and find it funny. I didn’t.
Saad says
chris61,
The video isn’t aimed at women and isn’t telling them what they should do. That part isn’t even open to interpretation. You’re pretending to not get it so you can continue shouting “misandry!!1” like you normally do.
vaiyt says
@Chris61:
No shit the idea is insulting, Sherlock. That’s the entire damn point.