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Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully

Several people have proposed going after Najera’s spineless employers by dunning them with email. Please do not. He has requested that people not jeopardize his job further, so further action is discouraged, OK?

Via Orac comes this amazing story of a thug intimidating a public health employee: it seems Mr Daniels was very upset with René Najera, an epidemiologist, who has been blogging and tweeting about medicine and quackery, and when the two of them got into an argument on the internet, Daniels took the low road. He contacted Najera’s employers, waved lawyers around, and compelled the department he worked for to demand that he stop all these extracurricular internet activities, or be fired.

Mr Daniels has the appearance of a coward and somebody who can’t hold his own in an argument. And because his feelings were hurt by his own inadequacy, he took steps to silence an informed voice on the internet.

And it gets worse. Liz Ditz has a detailed summary of the affair, and Daniels appears in the comments, frantically throwing out more threats, and bragging about his giant penis financial worth.

i am mr. x; first, i am not anti-vax; second, i didn’t want epiren to stop posting, but rather to take down the defamatory blog; third, i am not done going after every individual who defames me.

you think you are safe, but all i have to do is file a john doe – or hire a cyber investigator. these courses of action cost less than $10,000 each; which means every person who is afraid of the light can be exposed.

i will not tolerate harassment, defamation, or any such action by any of you. i am very aware of all of you, and have the capital and the will to go after each and every one of you ONLY IF you defame or slander me.

i am self employed if you count owning 11 pharmaceutical companies with cum gross sales over 1/2 billion.

That’s the general threat; he’s also targeted specific individuals.

and just so we are clear. the next person on the list is anarchic teapot. i’ve already hired two firms to track him down.

actuall, to save me $9,000 i will offer $1,000 for identify info that leads to an address where i can serve anarchic teapot (legally serve as in sheriff delivers court papers).

I think he’s aware that he’s lost. Since posting these things, he’s started trying to erase himself from the internet: he has taken down his own blog, youtube and twitter accounts, and his linkedin account. This is a man desperately trying to escape the court of public opinion, where his money doesn’t matter and his actions expose him as a damaging influence on the flow of information.

Some bits and pieces of his blog have been recovered via google cache, like his bizarre post bragging about how he lost a court case in which he tried to market a copy-cat drug, a folate supplement, but that the drug was being used by one family to treat autism…which he considered a victory. In fact, most of the blog posts I’ve seen by him are all about his court cases. This is how he sees himself:

Rhett S. Daniels, M.Sc. (aka cigaRHETT)
Fort Myers, Florida, United States

Activist, philanthropist and entrepreneur. Highly skilled executive who excels at taking small struggling companies from low to high revenues in short periods. Boast an impressive record of the most pharmaceutical drug products ever developed by one person (over 400) in the history of pharma – surpassing my idol, Robert Stockstad from Lederle Pharma (he developed folic acid in 1947). One of the most successful non-lawyer ProSe litigants in history. As of July 18, 2011, total product sales since July 18, 2006, are: $590,635,984 (and 22,728,724 units sold!). politics: cigaRHETT (blog): www.cigaRHETT.com and, day job: www.linkedin.com/in/cigaRHETT ViaDiem Holdings (Founder): www.viadiem.com Captiva Pharma (CEO): www.CaptivaRx.com day-to-day affairs: www.twitter.com/cigaRHETT and music & videos: www.myspace.com/rhettsdaniels www.youtube.com/rhettdaniels Goals: (1) To lead a small pharma company from less than $20 million/yr to over $1 billion/yr in revenues; (2) To feed 82 million Africans with my new unique ingredients that purifies water while provided demographic and staple-deficient based vitamins to provide min RDA based on regional disparities;

Ugh. One of those guys. Glorified beancounter.

But you haven’t seen how pathetic he can get, yet. After several people expressed their squeamishness at his implied claim that folate could be used to treat autism, he starts wheedling.

emily, is this you?
http://biologyfiles.fieldofscience.com/
i am impressed.
having said that i womder why someone of your stature would bash me since people like me fund projects that people like you work on? i am preparing a $50,000 grant to a university in TX…

“Be nice to me, I have money!”

emily, i have autistic family (not immediate), and wonder how you can so easily dismiss my dugs?
there are respected scientist who are behind me on this….strange, didnt xpect someone who actually knows personally the pain of autism to be so quick to bash another?

“How can you be so cruel to autistic children?”

Emily – forgive my typos, i am more a programmer like your husband and not as good at grammar as you are.

“I can track down your family and already am gathering information on them.”

What a wretched, pathetic little man. Run away and hide, Rhett Daniels, your own words expose you for what you are.

Comments

  1. Steve LaBonne says

    Let’s not forget that Najera’s employers are also pathetic little cowards. Without the cravenness of such people, the likes of Daniels would never get to first base in their persecution games.

  2. Valhar2000 says

    you think you are safe, but all i have to do is file a john doe – or hire a cyber investigator. these courses of action cost less than $10,000 each; which means every person who is afraid of the light can be exposed.

    Well, the course of action to follow is clear. Get a few thousand Pharyngula commenters to “defame” him, and see if he still thinks this is the right way to go after he has spent a few millions dollars.

  3. llewelly says

    A disgusting bully.

    And it shows, that as long as it is legal for employers to fire people based on what they have said online, as long as it is legal for private entities to restrict speech, we do not have free speech.

  4. The says

    Ha ha. A pathetic, angry little man trying to control the internet with threats and lawyers. What a loser.

  5. Marta says

    It is appropriate for employers to consider the remarks of their employees posted on line. For instance, there was an attorney general (might have been a district attorney) who stalked and defamed a gay student leader at a university for a very long time. Perhaps you’ll all recall it without I have to google it? The state finally acted to fire the the AG (or DA)–a termination that was wholly appropriate, and long overdue.

    This case, which is similar in trivial respects, had a preposterous outcome, indicative of the collapse of good judgment of epiren’s employers.

  6. says

    Rhett Daniels, asshole-at-large:

    Highly skilled executive who excels at taking small struggling companies from low to high revenues in short periods. Boast an impressive record of the most pharmaceutical drug products ever developed by one person (over 400) in the history of pharma – surpassing my idol, Robert Stockstad from Lederle Pharma (he developed folic acid in 1947).

    Wow. Not only is he an undeservedly self-important pompous ass, he’s also a terrible fucking writer. Going from third-person to first-person in an overhyped résumé? Check. Preferring to use the force of law rather than the force of intellect? Check. Whiny little snot with delusions of adequacy? Check. Bragging about how he bested his hero? Check.

    What a fucking loser. His pomposity is rivaled only by his cretinous willingness to ignore science in favor of profit. The bizarre and rather telling mention of exact profits is the most interesting aspect of this whole thing, and speaks more to his lack of character than everything except his willingness to bully people who have accomplished far greater things than he.

    Pfaw.

    I followed the Google cache to the page that got EpiRen in trouble. Here’s something posted on Twitter by this fucking imbecile:

    @cigaRhett just blocked psycho doc @DrJenGunter.. if u follow her you will harm yourself. don’t know how she got her MD be warned

    So, he cries like a baby pinched by an older sibling about “defamation,” but doesn’t mind defaming others himself? Uhm, hypocrisy much?

    Here’s another lovely from our self-absorbed twit:

    @VaccineTimes nice that you support something you know zip about. what do vaccinated people have to fear from unvaccinated people?

    Nice to know this moron doesn’t know shit about herd immunity.

    But he has created over 400 drugs, beating out his hero, Robert Stockstad.

    Oh, what’s the, Ren?

    Update. The drugs that the douchebag has developed? Vitamins. Prenatal vitamins. Some others are skin creams and citric acid tablets for help with gout. I’d hate to break it to him, but vitamins really can’t be “developed”, per se. They can be compounded in China and sent to you by mail, and you can then slap a nice-sounding name on them, go through the expedited FDA approval process (because they’re vitamins), and then sell them at an over-inflated price… At the end, you can claim that you “earned” all the money from that, but so can homeopaths, who basically sell water (a naturally-occurring substance that can’t be “developed” but only combined, packaged, and sold as medicine).

    Sigh.

  7. raven says

    Rhett Daniels making threats and lying:

    you think you are safe, but all i have to do is file a john doe – or hire a cyber investigator. these courses of action cost less than $10,000 each; which means every person who is afraid of the light can be exposed.

    Oh Cthulhu, these guys again.

    I’ve been through this more times than I care to remember.

    He is lying here. He can file a John Doe but it doesn’t do him any good without a name.

    What he needs to do is file a motion to get someone’s real name. Due to various court cases, these are hard to do. And the victim can file a motion to quash which is almost always granted. Due to the case law, it is very difficult to get a court to deanonymize someone.

    The cyberinvestigator stuff is more accurate though. This has happened to me twice. What they do is hack your computer system, install sophisticated spyware programs, and get your real name and address that way.

    These sophisticated spyware programs also happen to be highly illegal. Last time, a forensic computer expert copied mine and took it apart to see where the output was going. It was a group of hacker for hire criminals.

    We then had names too. The whole thing took about 45 minutes. The cops didn’t do anything to them though but they looked pretty happy. They didn’t say it but my impression was that every bit and byte going from and to the criminal hackers was going to be read. People other than medical quacks hire these guys. Outright criminals and terrorists are two of their other clients classes.

    Other than getting names, there isn’t much Rhett Daniels can do but make threats and lie. The truth is an absolute defense in slander and lible cases. And in SLAPP suits, Strategic Litigation Agaisnt Public Participation, which this is, loser pays court costs and lawyer fees. And he will almost certainly lose.

    If Rhett Daniels ia making threats and lying a lot, the best thing to do is copy them to the internet, a blog or archive and let them speak for themselves. Nothing ever disappears on the internet and they will be there forever.

  8. Charlie Foxtrot says

    Hmmm, that sounds like a Pharyngula class orbital cyber-pistol being warmed up again…

  9. rad_pumpkin says

    Oh-oh, be nice to him now, PZ. Believe me, you don’t want him to backtrace you, and be reported to the state and cyber police(s). As you know, if he were to do that, the consequences would never be the same!

  10. says

    Sorry, everybody. I pulled “fuckface” up from the depths of time (back to junior-high) and posted without thinking. I realized that might be offensive — not to Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully, but to others.

    I apologize and retract. I have never wished for an edit button so hard in my life.

  11. says

    @7, Nigel-

    I follow Jen Gunter on Twitter. That he tried to scare people away from following her drives home just how over-the-top he is to me. She tweets primarily about women’s health issues, and is very informative. I don’t know how she crossed this douchebag, but I would be sorely surprised if she ever said anything that’s actually incorrect, and was called on it by the no-punctuation guy.

  12. Daniel J. Andrews says

    But has he boasted about his IQ yet? He’s used many of the other ‘high’ points that insecure little men throw up in the air when threatened (sort of like a squid using its ‘ink’ when feeling uneasy–not to compare Rhett to the magnificent cephalopod especially not here) so surely he must have tweeted or commented somewhere about how smart he is.

    Bullies. How I despise them. Well, not “despise”, but I can’t think of any word strong enough to express my mixture of contempt and anger coupled with my memories of how bullies made my life miserable in Grade 1 and Grades 8-10.

  13. raven says

    Rhett Daniels:

    “I can track down your family and already am gathering information on them.”

    Cthulhu, I’ve heard these words, exactly before.

    The more desperate and psychopathic of these creeps, also threaten to kill them.

    I imagine a judge might be very interested in what plans Rhett Daniels has after he “tracks down your family and gathers information on them” and why he thinks this is a good thing to do. There is an implied threat here and he isn’t going to look good in court at all. In fact, he looks like a great candidate for a restraining order just based on this.

  14. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Marta:

    It is appropriate for employers to consider the remarks of their employees posted on line. For instance, there was an attorney general (might have been a district attorney) who stalked and defamed a gay student leader at a university for a very long time.

    And you apparently don’t know the difference between harassment and free speech. The ADA in question wasn’t just writing a blog, he was following (and possibly stalking) the student-body president. It’s a bad comparision on your part.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/asst_da_exercises_first_amendm.html
    http://www.annarbor.com/news/university-of-michigan-student-body-president-assistant-state-attorney-general-face-off-in-court-mon/

    So, no. I don’t agree that my employer should have the power to fire me because they don’t like what I say on my own time.

  15. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    Hey Rhett S. Daniels, you’re ugly. And your mother dresses you funny. She parts your hair in a strange way too. I fart in your general direction.

  16. raven says

    I would suggest that Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully and fuckface-at-large should study up on a very deadly social disease: the Streisand Effect.

    It’s way too late. Rhett S. Daniels has already come down with a serious case of Streisand’s disease.

    Fifteen minutes ago, I’d never heard of the guy. Now, I have and he looks about as interesting as a rabid bat.

  17. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    Strange that someone who owns companies that total 1/2 Billion in sales would need or want to scrub his internet identity.

  18. says

    Wow, his ignorance is well matched by his arrogance.
    There’s this gem about suing people in different countires for what he considers slander and libel:

    Pranab, the only place I’ve had difficulty getting to people has been Iran, China (but you can bring the case there), North Korea and sometimes Russia (although you have to pay for the service).
    Most nations are Hague Treaty nations. so, if you commit a crime you cannot run from it.

    Can anybody imagine any police-force anywhere agreeing to investigate and persue somebody according to Hague Treaty regulations over this
    Hell, the EU took ages to find sound ways to persue drivers who commit offenses in other EU countries than their home.

  19. says

    raven:

    Fifteen minutes ago, I’d never heard of the guy. Now, I have and he looks about as interesting as a rabid bat.

    Yep. Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully, was completely unknown to me until this morning.

    Stay away from Captiva Pharmaceuticals. If Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully, is any indication fo the quality of their employees, you’re likely to be poisoned.

  20. says

    (It’s Liz Ditz – no ‘e’.)

    How sad. I’ve always enjoyed Najera’s comments at RI. I hope he can go back to blogging/commenting after a while using a pseudonym.

    Orac*’s post is good:

    So why am I writing this? My purpose is simple. I want to use this unfortunate recent event and my own experience as an example to demonstrate that there are valid reasons why people choose to blog, Twitter, and comment using pseudonyms, and those reasons usually do not involve hiding from responsibility for their words. All too often, they involve wanting to take reasonable precautions against people like William P. O’Neill, Jake Crosby,…EpiRen’s tormenter

    , Gurdur,…

    One of the most successful non-lawyer ProSe litigants in history.

    ?

    *So is he leaving Sb? If so, where’s he going?

  21. Rey Fox says

    i will not tolerate harassment, defamation, or any such action by any of you. i am very aware of all of you, and have the capital and the will to go after each and every one of you ONLY IF you defame or slander me.

    Translation: I am deeply insecure about my penis size.

  22. raven says

    Can anybody imagine any police-force anywhere agreeing to investigate and persue somebody according to Hague Treaty regulations over this.

    No. The international courts took forever just to round up and try the Serbian war criminals. Milosivic died in prison before his trial was over.

    His threats are idle and unbelievable.

    FWIW, truth is an absolute defense in slander and libel cases. Opinion is protected by the First Amendment. And in SLAPP suits, loser pays court costs and lawyer fees.

  23. says

    SC:

    I’ve been wondering that myself. Orac’s real name is somewhat well-known but he does make a point to not mention it on SB, so I’m not exactly sure what that might mean.

  24. JoeKaistoe says

    @7 nigelthebold

    Wow, the “drugs” he developed were vitamins? That’s pathetic.

    That’s the equivalent of getting a patent for every idiotic brain fart someone comes up with, and claiming to have surpassed your idol, Da Vinci.

    I guess if you can’t surpass someone using the existing standard, make up your own.

    P.S. I’m superior to all of you, as I’ve posted more using this pseudonym than anyone else! The line for worshipping me will form to my left.

  25. Tualha says

    So, can we start a letter-writing campaign to Najera’s employer, basically saying “For shame!”? What state is it?

  26. robro says

    What’s particularly disheartening is that despite so much public support for EpiRen’s work, the company he works for allowed itself to be weaseled into playing the bully on behalf of threatening grump who’s motif is apparently in his wallet. They should be ashamed of themselves and consider how that reflects on the public image of the company.

  27. Rey Fox says

    Another internet bully. I wonder if he likes Depeche Mode.

    It’s time us Smithians stood up to the Depeche Mode bullies.

  28. says

    So, can we start a letter-writing campaign to Najera’s employer, basically saying “For shame!”? What state is it?

    Please don’t.
    He asked people not to do it. He might not be aware of this being discussed here, so I’m posting this from the comments on the blogpost PZ linked to:

    I don’t think that a same number of emails or messages to people at the department would have the same effect. It would probably not make things better. So I ask that you not contact them.

  29. IslandBrewer says

    Dear Rhett “Fucktard” Daniels,

    Have you heard of the Striesand Effect? Would you like more people to “defame” you?

    Please, oh please, comment in this thread, in this blog.

    Please, I dare you, you cowardly lying fucktardian worthless sack of shit.

    Want defamation? Ok, your quackery and bullshit-based supplements are financially and possibly physically harming children and families with autism, you fuckwitted parasite on civilization.

    There, now come after me, you fucking piece of shit!

  30. IslandBrewer says

    Gah, that makes me so pissed I WANT TO TYPE IN ALLCAPS!!!

    Sorry, I’m calming down a bit.

  31. marta says

    @16

    Eh. Yeah. I know the difference between harassment and free speech. This is why I did not say “It is appropriate for employers to FIRE the remarks of their employees posted on line” but DID say “It is appropriate for employers to CONSIDER the remarks of their employees posted on line.”

    However, if you work for me, and it is later disclosed and proved that you post racist hate speech, just for instance, indeed, yes, I will invite you to work somewhere else.

  32. Brownian says

    Emily – forgive my typos, i am more a programmer like your husband and not as good at grammar as you are.

    What a fucking piece of shit. From Jerome’s link:

    Have I ever been arrogant on this blog or to you out there on the internet? (I know I’ve been arrogant in real life, and then I turned 12. So I’m not asking about the “real” world.) I ask this because being arrogant is really bad for one’s credibility, in my opinion…

    Arrogance is bad for credibility? Is this fucking dolt into trepanation‎, or is there an organic reason for the abscesses in his brain?

    If there is any doubt that financial success ≠ intelligence, this fucking halfwit removes it.

  33. says

    So, can we start a letter-writing campaign to Najera’s employer, basically saying “For shame!”? What state is it?

    Don’t. Please don’t. That will only make things worse for Rene.

  34. Brownian says

    It’s time us Smithians stood up to the Depeche Mode bullies.

    Um, I’m afraid we’ve finally found a disagreement for which, personally I think accommodationism is the cure.

  35. says

    Thanks for the shout-out, PZ, even if you mis-spelled my last name — lots of people do. Including Rhett Daniels. He thought he outed me at Scepticemia…but it was another woman with a similar name. I sent her a letter of apology and explanation — I just hope that Daniels didn’t paper her colleagues and superiors with raving emails…

    One of my commenters wondered if he was a Scientologist. I checked the database of people who had completed courses and his name didn’t appear.

    The latest communiqué from Mr. Daniels on my blog (8:32 AM 8/22/2011)

    someone needs to stand up to you all, and i have the resources to do it. i can’t imagine how many people you all have slinged and barbed; justice will prevail.
    this is my last post, i’ve turned it over to legal.

    Somehow I am not quaking in my boots.

  36. 'smee says

    marta@37

    However, if you work for me, and it is later disclosed and proved that you post racist hate speech I don’t agree with, just for instance, indeed, yes, I will invite you to work somewhere else.

    Edited to show you why that approach does not work.

    From an employment perspective, unless that ‘personal online speech’ manifests in a manner prejudicial to the company, to the operation of the company, to its reputation, or to the performance of the employee or his/her colleagues – then you are merely being an ass.

    If it is entirely private, then you cannot leverage it in action.

    Of course, in an ‘at will’ employment situation, you need no justification anyway – so long as you are not acting arbitrarily against a protected employment class. (This last is why HR will make you capture a paper trail of evidence!)

  37. says

    Glorified beancounter.

    As a fully qualified beancounter, I find that insulting. No, I’m not joking. I’ve seen guys like this trying to run a business, and all they do is run it into the ground. Not a clue about money, investment, whatever. He claims to have a Msc in Biology and Chemistry which, last time I looked, is nothing to do with business administration.

    While anarchic teapot – .i.e. the guy who’s “next” – reckons he is at little risk from this particular bully, he – or rather, I – would appreciate it if people didn’t keep dredging deleted posts out of Google’s cache and reposting them.

    As I pointed out on Orac’s blog a little earlier today, none of you would appreciate it if someone did that to you. I think it extremely ill-advised to do it to EpiRen, who deleted his blog in accordance with his employer’s wishes because he wishes to remain employed and continue his studies.

    In all fairness, the same courtesy should also be extended to Daniels. He may be a dick, or he may be in need of help; which is it doesn’t matter at this point. If he recommences, attacking someone else, then we can deal with the problem as it arises.

    Right now, I would like to be sure that Ren is safe from further harassment.

  38. Charlie Foxtrot says

    Eh, not that well scrubbed. Some google-fu can still find a bit. CorporationWiki comes up, quite a few different business names registered there, one seems to be based in a shopping mall(?)
    Oh dear, Pharyngula is the 5th highest result on his name (as spelt above) already.
    Barbara can be a bitch…

  39. marta says

    “From an employment perspective, unless that ‘personal online speech’ manifests in a manner prejudicial to the company, to the operation of the company, to its reputation, or to the performance of the employee or his/her colleagues – then you are merely being an ass.”

    Hard to see how posting racist hate speech isn’t prejudicial to one’s company, to its reputation, to its operation. That’s the way it ought to work, anyway.

    If you are a racist, neo-Nazi shithead, and you work for me, my goodness, yes, I will give you the opportunity to work for my competitors. Your mileage may vary, however.

  40. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Marta:

    However, if you work for me, and it is later disclosed and proved that you post racist hate speech, just for instance, indeed, yes, I will invite you to work somewhere else.

    I have a really big problem with employers that think they can dictate what their employees do in their free time– if it’s not impacting their job performance (ie, they’re updating their blog while on the clock), it’s not your place to police them.

    Sadly, in most states, the law is actually on your side ‘cos who cares if employers shit on their employees?

  41. Matt Penfold says

    I have a really big problem with employers that think they can dictate what their employees do in their free time– if it’s not impacting their job performance (ie, they’re updating their blog while on the clock), it’s not your place to police them.

    I think it depends on the job. If for example a job involves being impartial, and being seen to be impartial, on racial matters then posting messages on the internet in support of racist positions must surely bring into question the person’s ability to be impartial and to be seen to be so.

  42. Boko999 says

    Despite the widely held opinion, it has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr Rhett Daniels blows dead bears.

  43. marta says

    Audley@46:

    Yes, I know. I really don’t disagree with you. Employers who police what their employees do and say in their private time very often commit egregious offenses against their employees.

  44. says

    Oh, dear, it looks like Mr. Daniels had a bit of a cash-flow problem: He filed for bankruptcy in 2008. I’m not going to link to it; if it is sufficiently interesting to you, you can search for the details yourself.

    Bankruptcy Petition #: 9:08-bk-20320-ALP

    Rhett Daniels
    5352 XXXXXXX XXXXX
    Fort Myers, FL 33919
    SSN / ITIN: xxx-xx-2491
    fdba
    Canopy Roads Pharmaceuticals
    dba
    Daniels Pharma Group

    Not a surprise.

  45. says

    Audley Z. Darkheart:

    Sadly, in most states, the law is actually on your side ‘cos who cares if employers shit on their employees?

    Well, corporations are more important than citizens. I mean, employees have the liberty of freedom of speech (because it’s guaranteed in the Constitution), but not the freedom of freedom of speech. Corporations should certainly be able to curtail a citizen’s freedoms, don’t you think?

    It’s only fair.

  46. says

    I think it depends on the job. If for example a job involves being impartial, and being seen to be impartial, on racial matters then posting messages on the internet in support of racist positions must surely bring into question the person’s ability to be impartial and to be seen to be so.

    But that’s somethig directly related to said person’s ability to perform the job they’ve been hired to do.
    As much as I hate neo-nazis, if your job is loading and unloading trucks, an employer has every right to stop said nazi to utter anything racist while on the company premises or during their work, but they are sadly allowed to do so in their free time.

    From a European perspective, people are fighting hard at the moment to stop religious companies to fire them for private decissions such as marrying for a second time (sorry, link in German).
    You are not allowed to say anything that goes directly against your employer, because you owe them a certain loyalty, but this has been limited, too in the case of a nurse who acted as a whistle-blower, since the public interest was more important.

    So, the way I see it, his employer would have been justified to silence René Najera if he’d done the exact opposite of what he actually did: propagate woo.

  47. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Matt Penfold,

    If for example a job involves being impartial, and being seen to be impartial, on racial matters then posting messages on the internet in support of racist positions must surely bring into question the person’s ability to be impartial and to be seen to be so.

    I will admit that my perspective is as an employee in the private sector– what you mention seems like it would most likely be a public sector job. That being said, I don’t think that just because someone works for the government, they should have their freedom of speech curtailed.

    Anyway, this just goes to show that anonymity isn’t a bad thing if you want to protect yourself from over-zealous employers (or weirdos with a vendetta. See that weasel-fucker Rhett Daniels for a prime example.)

    Marta,
    Your inconsistancy is astounding. Employers shouldn’t police their employees, but you’re perfectly willing to fire someone who posts things you disagree with online?

    The more you type, the happier I am that I don’t work for you.

    Rhett Daniels,
    When I called you a weasel-fucker, I meant it literally. Those poor animals.

  48. Guestspeaker says

    If you all want a real laugh, check out his cached LinkedIn profile, which he took down…

    Florida State University
    Bachelor of Arts, English Writing
    1995 – 2002

    So, not that there’s anything wrong with taking 7 years to complete a BA at FSU, but his major was.. English Literature?! The guy can’t even write!

    His CV has all the warning signs of an egomaniac and blatant lair: name dropping, obvious exaggeration, founding your own small company and then calling yourself a CEO…

    Also, a quick look in e.g. Hoovers database shows that he is lying. His firm “Viadem” has a whopping revenue of… $300K (revenue, not profits after all the costs of the products etc).

    My bet is that he is some kind of fraud.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kaxnrwsWza0J:www.linkedin.com/pub/rhett-daniels/27/733/1ab+Rhett+Daniels&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&source=www.google.ca

  49. Matt Penfold says

    But that’s somethig directly related to said person’s ability to perform the job they’ve been hired to do.
    As much as I hate neo-nazis, if your job is loading and unloading trucks, an employer has every right to stop said nazi to utter anything racist while on the company premises or during their work, but they are sadly allowed to do so in their free time.

    You are probably right, but it can be something of a grey area. For example here in the UK police and prison officers can be dismissed if they are found to belong to the racist British National Party even if they have not done anything in the performance of their job that would indicate they are racially prejudiced. There mere fact that in order to be a member of the BNP you must believe that whites are superior to all other races is considered sufficient to make membership of the party incompatible with being a police or prison officer. There is talk about extending the ban to the teaching profession.

    Other public servants are allowed to join the BNP, but their membership can count against them if there are any complaints of them being racist.

  50. says

    anarchic teapot:

    As I pointed out on Orac’s blog a little earlier today, none of you would appreciate it if someone did that to you.

    Actually, in this situation, I suspect I would appreciate others doing this. It would allow me to comply with my employer’s wishes, while allowing the story to be told.

    However, I’m in a completely different circumstance than Rene. I would most definitely not want any of my actions to adversely affect him, as I have only the utmost respect for Rene and what he has done as EpiRen.

    I can’t unpost my quotes from Rene. I posted them without considering the possibility his employers would use my actions against Rene. I would just like to point out to his employers that Rene is in no way responsible for my actions in doing so. Rene has already complied with the demand to censor himself fully. While I believe their actions were draconian and out-of-line with the ideals of a free society, I respect Rene’s decision to take down his blog. In that regard, I was myself out of line.

    In all fairness, the same courtesy should also be extended to Daniels.

    I believe there’s a difference between the two. Rene was coerced into removing his words. Daniels removed his to eliminate self-inflicted embarrassment while simultaneously using intimidation to silence a critic. I believe documenting his hypocrisy is a valid use of the Internet’s long memory.

  51. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Nigel:

    Corporations should certainly be able to curtail a citizen’s freedoms, don’t you think?

    Well, according to SCOTUS, corporations aren’t just persons, they’re SUPER DUPER AWESOME persons. You may be on to something here.

  52. enkidu says

    @lizditz: I can’t stop laughing at the bankruptcy filing, for all the chest-thumping about his money-making this dude did. LOLOLOL

  53. The Lone Coyote says

    Hmmm, it appears Rhett Daniels (enormous pigfucker) is a failed businessman as well as a litigious asshole.

    It works both ways Rhett.

  54. says

    Daniels removed his to eliminate self-inflicted embarrassment while simultaneously using intimidation to silence a critic. I believe documenting his hypocrisy is a valid use of the Internet’s long memory.

    I do not think he removed it out of embarrassment. I do think the guy needs professional help not of the sort a lawyer can provide.

    While I do not condone bullying, neither do I condone sinking to the same level. There is proof of his bullying and defamatory behaviour in the emails that were sent, and I think it unlikely Epiren did not keep a backup of his blog to prove his innocence. Possibly the troll has kept copies of his own rantings. If he reposts them, or starts to harass lizditz or myself, then his arse will be ours. I promise you this.

    In the meantime, let’s respect EpiRen’s wish to delete his blog, without it being posted elsewhere at the present time. And show that we at least can behave like gentlemen or women.

  55. says

    You know you are dealing with a professional suer (pun lost on non-Indian folks!) when they threaten to wave subpoenas and legal notices in the face of someone from another nation thousands and thousands of miles away… All hail the Streisand effect!

    P.S. @Peds_id_doc had a similar run in with a bigoted ranter who went running to his employer who laughed it off. As much as Rene loves his job and supports the decision of his employer, his blog going down is a blow to his readers like me…

  56. Antiochus Epiphanes says

    [font face="Comic Sans MS"] i am self employed if you count owning 11 pharmaceutical companies with cum gross sales over 1/2 billion. [/font]

    gross is right.

  57. says

    If you are going to post or tweet about this issue, rather than using René’s name or twitter handle, another epidemiologist, @epiApril, has suggested using #epigate.

  58. Midnight Rambler says

    An important point that people seem to be missing is that René does not work for a corporation, but a state health department. While they should be more receptive to employees doing outreach on their own time, they’re also hypersensitive to government employees expressing personal opinions publicly. That’s especially true when it’s on the same subject they work on, so it can’t really be separated when they’re speaking professionally and personally despite disclaimers. I know a lot of people who work in state and federal government and they have to be pretty circumspect about what they say, even in personal communications.

  59. Midnight Rambler says

    Another interesting thing about Daniels’ companies – neither Captiva Pharmaceuticals nor ViaDem seems to have any real mention on the web outside of their own websites, those of Daniels and three or four other employees (one of who was his co-defendant in a trade secret theft lawsuit when he moved from one generic pharmaceutical maker to another – things that make you go hmm…), and Florida and Georgia business directorys. No mention of products or anything at all. In contrast, PamLabs, one of the companies he says he was in litigation with, has quite a lot of mention.

  60. speedwell says

    Cumulative gross? What on earth is that? If I start a lemonade stand with sales totalling a thousand dollars a year, and my great-grandkid a hundred years later closes the family lemonade business, having made the same thousand dollars a year each year, can he claim to have been the CEO of a firm that made a million dollars in cumulative gross sales?

  61. DLC says

    Message for Rhett Daniels, moronic festerbrained git:
    Body:
    Msr Daniels:
    In my opinion, you have done nothing of worth, contribute nothing of value and exist solely to take up space in your mother’s garage. Your entire life has been a complete and utter waste of time and resources. You exhibit all of the negative aspects of an equine posterior. May you rot in your own hell-on-earth that you are constructing for yourself even as I write this.
    In most sincere detestation,
    DLC

  62. marta says

    “Your inconsistancy is astounding. Employers shouldn’t police their employees, but you’re perfectly willing to fire someone who posts things you disagree with online?”

    You don’t read good, and you have a low boiling point.

    Yes. I am willing to fire an employee who I later learn is a neo-Nazi skinhead. He or she is welcome to post all the hate rhetoric they like, anywhere they like, at any time. They are free to do it when they are employed by someone else. I own their job, not them. You can call it a simple matter of “disagreement” if you like, but I think you can make a distinction between “disagreement” and racist/hate rhetoric. Or can you?

    I haven’t said, and I’m not saying, that employers shouldn’t police their employees, so don’t put your words in my mouth.

    What I have said, and do acknowledge, is that employers frequently abuse their court-given advantage against their employees, and I readily acknowledge that policing the behavior or speech of employees in their private lives is problematic, to say the least.

  63. Vicki, running low on patience says

    Marta–

    I see a clear distinction between disagreement and hate rhetoric. But there are people who would, as passionately as you’re writing here, defend their right to fire someone who was openly gay or transgender on the grounds that they don’t want employees who are corrupting the youth and encouraging destructive behavior. The employees aren’t doing that, of course, but if you can fire someone for racist statements, someone else can fire employees for posts that are sympathetic to transgender people. Or for posts about whiskey tastings or making their own beer.

  64. speedwell says

    Marta holds the libertarian belief that employers own their businesses and that nobody, not the government, not the employees, has the right to interfere with that property interest. Only the customers of the employer’s business have the right to make their opinions felt, through their decisions to buy or not buy the products of that business. Because, naturally, every customer has perfect and comprehensive knowledge to guide them when making purchase decisions, I guess.

  65. says

    Vicki:

    Or for posts about whiskey tastings or making their own beer.

    Or for their political leanings, or the fact they dye their hair, or don’t shave their legs, or have a nipple piercing, or are an atheist, or a Catholic, or a creationist.

    Anything can be construed as being harmful to your company’s image, if you include everything the employee does outside the time for which you pay them.

    Most folks claim they’d like to live in a free society, and that they support free speech, but far fewer are willing to follow through on the intellectual and ethical commitment required to ensure that happens.

  66. David Marjanović, OM says

    Well, the course of action to follow is clear. Get a few thousand Pharyngula commenters to “defame” him, and see if he still thinks this is the right way to go after he has spent a few millions dollars.

    Sounds good to me.

    It is appropriate for employers to consider the remarks of their employees posted on line. For instance, there was an attorney general (might have been a district attorney) who stalked and defamed a gay student leader at a university for a very long time. Perhaps you’ll all recall it without I have to google it? The state finally acted to fire the the AG (or DA)–a termination that was wholly appropriate, and long overdue.

    The difference is that stalking is a crime.

    Oh, dear, it looks like Mr. Daniels had a bit of a cash-flow problem: He filed for bankruptcy in 2008.

    <Spock>Fascinating.</Spock>

    et (tiens, tiens!) activiste anti-vaccins

    :-þ

  67. otrame says

    David Marjanović, OM, I do not believe I have ever told you how much I love you. That was remiss of me. 8-)

  68. evilDoug says

    “… your own words expose you for what you are.”

    That’s for sure! I read some of his posts on Liz’s blog, and kept thinking “keep him talking – the more he says the more he confirms what an idiot he is”.

    He claims to have “Bachelor of Arts, English Writing” from Florida State. His writing is barely adequate for graduation from middle school. Does ANY university offer a degree in “English Writing”?

    I wonder what became of the “PhD in Management at FIU” he was persuing in 2004. Perhaps, like any sensible thing, it ran fast enough to avoid him.

    I read through his drivel in the post linked at #55. With his record, if he showed up at my company looking for a job, I would release the dogs. And the bees. And the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees.

    I suspect he lost his hair as a result of a major conflagration of his trousers.

  69. captainahags says

    @ speedwell,
    If your grandkids a hundred years later close the business, no, they cannot claim a million in gross sales. They could, however, claim 100 thousand =P

  70. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Marta,

    You don’t read good, and you have a low boiling point.

    And you can’t communicate for shit, so we’re even.

    He or she is welcome to post all the hate rhetoric they like, anywhere they like, at any time. They are free to do it when they are employed by someone else.

    I am amazed you still don’t see the inconsistency in your position. What you’re saying still boils down to “I don’t like what you have to say, therefore I’m gonna fire you.” In all honesty, I don’t care if we’re talking about a simple disagreement between you and an employee or a neo-nazi.

    I was speaking purely of what happens online in someone’s free time. It’s not an employer’s concern what opinions (no matter how odious) their employees have if those opinions are expressed outside the workplace. That was my entire point. If your neo-nazi employee is good at their job and does not contribute to a hostile work environment, you shouldn’t care what their opinions are.

    Nigel:

    Most folks claim they’d like to live in a free society, and that they support free speech, but far fewer are willing to follow through on the intellectual and ethical commitment required to ensure that happens.

    You’re absolutely right.

    Employers using silencing tactics is especially worrisome because there’s no accountability and no recourse.

  71. says

    At least, he keeps his head shaved down to the skin. One might call him a skinhead.

    Your point is …

    … that all us skinheads are lying, cowardly, perhaps racist? Seriously, this skinhead is scratching his smooth, shiny pate wondering what your point is.

    Barbara can be a bitch…

    I hope Barbara is a dog, because otherwise you have used a gendered insult. Please desist.

    Yes. I am willing to fire an employee who I later learn is a neo-Nazi skinhead.

    Which, neo-Nazi or skinhead? This non neo-Nazi skinhead wants to know. Because most of the neo-Nazis I know of here in Germany have respectable hair cuts.

    Oh, and Rhett S. Daniels, you’re a poopy head.

  72. MartinM says

    He claims to have a Msc in Biology and Chemistry

    Does he, indeed? His linkedin profile claims an MS in Information Systems, which apparently involved working on a drug interactions database. So, yes, he has a masters degree which tangentially involves biology and chemistry. If I were to list all the subjects my doctoral project touches on, I could probably claim expertise in a dozen or so fields, despite not actally having any in most of them.

    That MS in information systems, incidentally, appears to be primarily a taught course, with a small research project to finish up. Not knocking that kind of course – I considered doing one myself not so long ago – but they’re very much starting points for any scientific career, not something anyone competent would brag about.

  73. says

    @Matt Penfold

    There mere fact that in order to be a member of the BNP you must believe that whites are superior to all other races is considered sufficient to make membership of the party incompatible with being a police or prison officer. There is talk about extending the ban to the teaching profession.

    I think this might be up for debate but would agree that this might fall under: autimatically disqualified at doing their job propperly.
    In Germany, teachers have to be neutral in school, but are allowed to pursue legal political activities outside. This wasn’t alsways the case, in the 1950’s to early 80’s, being a socialist disqualified you for any government job and that included being a postman.
    Misuse of power can be subtle and hard to prove (every student who was ever disliked by any teacher for whatever reason knows this) and therefore we have to be careful whom we give that power.

    Which, neo-Nazi or skinhead? This non neo-Nazi skinhead wants to know. Because most of the neo-Nazis I know of here in Germany have respectable hair cuts.

    And most skinheads I know are pretty left-leaning progressives…

  74. starstuff91 says

    He seems like a narcissist. Or maybe he just has really low self-esteem so he’s over compensating and is terrified of people finding out. There are lots of people like that in the world; this one just happens to have a lot of money to throw around.

  75. The Lone Coyote says

    Cosmic Teapot: Wear your shiny head with pride! This is coming from a dude with a very respectable and savage mane.

    However, I would argue that the shiny-headed look isn’t for everyone. I would also argue that it makes Rhett s Daniels look like a fuckin clown.

  76. DLC says

    Much more of this namegaming and I’m going to trump you all by logging in as Russel’s Samovar!

  77. evilDoug says

    I note that douchebag makes no claims to holding any patents. I would have thought that anyone who has “developed” so many pharmaceuticals would have at least a few patents to his name. No such claim – not even a design patent for the packaging that features so prominently on the products page of one of the companies he is associated with. Of course it is very easy to verify if a patent actually exists. Perhaps that deters him.

    I get the impression that he would regard putting a cabbage into a paper bag as a development project.

  78. Charlie Foxtrot says

    @Cosmic Teapot

    Yup – fair cop. I’ll take that.

    So…
    Barbara* can be a female dog that will, figuratively speaking, lock on to your leg and drag you around for a lot longer than is really comfortable.

    *refering, of course, to the ‘Barbara Steisand effect’ intertoob phenomenon – not to any actual dog named Barbara, who, I’m sure, is just a big old softy, really, and is only showing her teeth because she’s smiling at you…

  79. WorkerBee says

    Normally, I find Dr. Myers to be an articulate user of English, but I think he flubbed the following….
    “Mr Daniels has the appearance of a coward” I think that the sorry actions you cite seems at odds with such a mild statement.
    Perhaps a bit more like “Mr Daniels has the appearance of a petulant, crying baby” or, perhaps “the appearance of a giant turd” or similar.

  80. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    Rhett S. must be taking the day off, because his type is usually on the intertubes googling his name with fair frequency. Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully | Pharyngula is presently the fourth item when googling Rhett S. Daniels.

  81. rhett daniels says

    Hello –

    as with the other posts, I wanted to thank everyone for the attention. I only hope that I can continue to provide you with more fodder, so please stay tuned for more Kabuki Theatre.

    This is a contest of all of you versus me, and I have to say that in the long run you will tire out and I will only get more and more excited by all this.

    In fact, this past week has been such a wonderful distraction from my normal routine. I did lose my cool on Litz’s board, but hey it was my first venture into this online world.

    A good roasting is good for the soul, and I have loved – even when angered, the emotion it sparked in me.

    I tried for 7 years to be a musician, and accomplished more attention in one week than in all those 7 years. You all have shown me what my purpose and calling in life is: To piss you off.

    But i will do so without resorting to name calling, and such, and will try my best to keep this as polite is possible.

    Take care, Yours Truly – Rhett

  82. says

    This is a contest of all of you versus me, and I have to say that in the long run you will tire out and I will only get more and more excited by all this.

    ew

    will try my best to keep this as polite is possible.

    oh yeah, because threats and silencing people is oh, so polite. go fuck yourself with a rusty, decayed porcupine

  83. Classical Cipher, OM says

    You’re a shit writer, a blustering fool, and a desperate, pathetic troll, Rhett.

  84. says

    Does anyone have this sperglord’s email address? Because I want to send him a letter (its for a school project)

  85. The Lone Coyote says

    Hoggle your dick till it’s raw and pink Rhett, you’re still a failed businessman by all accounts.

  86. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    You all have shown me what my purpose and calling in life is: To piss you off.

    There’s a big difference between being pissed at you, Rhett, and laughing at you.

  87. illuminata says

    Kinda reminds me of that bully from middle school who reacted to getting back what he gave with threats of getting you in trouble with the principle . . . . wait a minute . . .

    And for what it’s worth, this “bitch” finds a receding, or completely absent, hairline to be tres sexy. Esp if coupled with a hairy chest.

  88. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Rhett,

    This is a contest of all of you versus me, and I have to say that in the long run you will tire out and I will only get more and more excited by all this.

    You do realize that there’s more than on of us here, yes?

    What lawyer is advising you/condoning your behavior? ‘Cos, really, you need to fire their ass before you get counter-sued hard.

    Besides that, you’re a pathetic, cowardly excuse for a human being.

  89. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    Yes. I am willing to fire an employee who I later learn is a neo-Nazi skinhead.

    Please tell us about your magical seeing the future powers.

    Please?

  90. Classical Cipher, OM says

    Shorter Rhett: I’m a pathetic loser and a failure at everything. The only way I will ever matter is as a vile, shitty excuse for a human being. But I don’t mind being a contemptible coward who hurts other people if that means someone will notice I exist!

    It’s sad really.

  91. Charlie Foxtrot says

    Not pissed off.
    Just… disappointed.

    I really had hoped your clown-shoes would be more squeaky.

    Clownshoe.

  92. illuminata says

    You all have shown me what my purpose and calling in life is: To piss you off.

    LOL awww, isn’t that cute. Goofy, douchey abject failure thinks he’s pissing people off when they mock him.

    uh-oh, is that the Super Sekrit ‘Net Cops at my door?!

    They’re coming to take me away for mocking Rhett Goofy, Douche Abject Failure Daniels!

    oooh nooooooO!!

  93. Brother Ogvorbis, Fully Defenestrated Emperor of Steam, Fire and Absurdity says

    This is a contest of all of you versus me, and I have to say that in the long run you will tire out and I will only get more and more excited by all this.

    He do not know us very well, do he?

  94. GorunNova says

    The problem is in when someone who desperately needs their job suddenly finds out that 1) their boss turns out to be a rabid anti-*whatever is supported in private*, 2) that boss considers support of *whatever the topic is* to be immoral enough to be grounds to ‘let them work for someone else’, and 3) someone in the crowd supporting *whatever the topic is* sent nasty emails to the first someone’s boss.

    Simply put, ANY speech done out of work hours saying ANYTHING that isn’t prohibited by law should be protected, and one shouldn’t be liable to firing for something one didn’t do while on the clock. A guideline that seems okay in one context can be wildly abused in another.

    Even more simply put, people fired for actions done that are NOT done on company time should be able to sue the pants off of the firing employer, imho. What’s the point of free speech if your boss can veto anything you can say on OR off the clock with threat of job loss?

  95. says

    But i will do so without resorting to name calling, and such, and will try my best to keep this as polite is possible.

    So when you called Dr. Jen Gunter (a board certified Ob/Gyn) a post meno Pelosi twit and claimed that if u follow her you will harm yourself. don’t know how she got her MD be warned you were just being a whimsical buffoon?

  96. rhett daniels says

    again, thank you for the comments. I retired last january and this foray into the online world has me intrigued. I look forward to toppling more of this.

    regards,

    R

    :)

  97. The Lone Coyote says

    Brother Ogvorbis: Coyotes never get tired once blood is scented.

    Illuminata: Hey, careful what you say! Rhett Daniels is clearly a rich and powerful man! a WINNER! most definitely not a loser…

    Rhett Daniels is also unable to reply to our comments right now. He ran out of hand sanitizer.

  98. rhett daniels says

    seriously, i could read all your comments as self-directed.

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    I am beginning to bore with the slings, and hope you can come up with something more substantive… or at least entertaining or intellectual.

    thank you again for your time, and I wish you good day!

    Cheers :!

  99. The Lone Coyote says

    I’m starting to suspect this is a fake actually. No one could really be that obnoxiously stupid.

  100. Classical Cipher, OM says

    seriously, i could read all your comments as self-directed.

    Wooooooooooooow.
    Rhett S. Daniels, ladies and gentlemen!

  101. rhett daniels says

    again, i apologized for my fumble…and chock it off as newbie on the online world.

    I was more humiliated by my behavior on Litz Ditz site.

    But i won’t fall for that trap again.

    thank you for your time.

    kind regards,

    Rhett

  102. Quodlibet says

    Rhett Daniels: This is a contest of all of you versus me, and I have to say that in the long run you will tire out and I will only get more and more excited by all this.

    Brother Ogvorbis: He do not know us very well, do he?

    Darn, I just finished dinner…too late for popcorn. Well, another glass of wine, then.

    ——

    … He gets excited? yecch.

  103. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Rhett,
    Do you ever tell the truth? About the only thing I do believe is that this is your first time on the internet.

  104. illuminata says

    Toppling, what exactly, Goofy, Douche Abject Failure?

    “Retired” is a nice way to spin the abject failure, though. Is your cowardice “impressive bravery”?

    Clearly, we just don’t understand 12 dimensional chess!

  105. The Lone Coyote says

    I refuse to believe that someone as rich as Mr Daniels claims to be has only JUST gotten online recently. Bullshit.

  106. illuminata says

    I don’t know, Lone Coyote. After all the intense stupidity of MRAs we’ve see lately, Goofy Douche Abject Failure is plausible. Expected, even.

    Then again, such goofy douchebaggery is very easy to Poe

  107. The Lone Coyote says

    illuminata: He’s playing ‘too good’ of a ‘rich litigious old douchebag’ act.

    It could very well be that the real Rhett Daniels is this comically inept, but I find it hard to believe.

  108. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Then again, such goofy douchebaggery is very easy to Poe

    Yeah, I noticed the middle initial was missing. I don’t think the doofus really wants to take us on. Some of us may be on first name basis with FDA auditors…

  109. says

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    Dude, this is a science blog. A grasp of reality is a minimum requirement.

  110. says

    I don’t know about Daniels’ comments here, but all of his posts at my blog have been from a consistent IP address, with a consistent email address. He is also on Google+. My conclusion is that he is who he says he is. He’s not a Poe, although one could understand that conclusion.

  111. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Lone Coyote,

    I refuse to believe that someone as rich as Mr Daniels claims to be has only JUST gotten online recently. Bullshit.

    Considering that he had a blog, a Twitter account, a LinkedIn profile, etc. I’m right there with you– bull-fucking-shit.

    But we really can’t expect the truth from such an odious fart-sniffer.

  112. Quodlibet says

    I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    Really? How do you know any of that?

    And define “successful,” please.

    And “accomplished more”? More what? If you mean “acted with more hubris and arrogance in one day than most people can accumulate over the course of a lifetime,” then, yes, you’re probably right on that one.

  113. The Lone Coyote says

    OK so it’s the real Rhett Daniels then.

    Wow. Just Wow. Retired? Yeah I believe that. I totally believe he didn’t get laid off for accomplishing nothing.

  114. Quodlibet says

    ema:

    Dude, this is a science blog. A grasp of reality is a minimum requirement.

    +1

  115. Classical Cipher, OM says

    again, i apologized for my fumble…and chock it off as newbie on the online world.

    Which fumble would that be, Rhett? Give us some details. What, specifically, do you regret? What do you apologize for?

  116. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    Judging from what we’ve seen about your finances, calling this statement stretching the truth, would be an understatement.

  117. rhett daniels says

    thank you, Liz. surprised to find you supporting me in any fashion… i guess because this isn’t your blog you can’t censor the unfavorable comments.

    seriously, this is all very new; and i’m learning fast.

    i do make a lot of money, and I give a lot of money. what’s wrong with that?

    again, thank you all for your patience and support as I learn the new game here. I look forward to working with you all and having a healthy online relationship.

    Cheers!

    R

  118. The Lone Coyote says

    I wonder when the lolsuits are gonna start rolling in.

    I look forward to toppling more of this.

    So how bout it, Rhett? Who are you gonna topple first?

  119. The Lone Coyote says

    again, thank you all for your patience and support as I learn the new game here. I look forward to working with you all and having a healthy online relationship.

    I don’t presume to speak for everyone, but I have a sneaking suspicion you won’t be here long.

  120. rhett daniels says

    Cipher –

    I regret resorting to senseless name calling and egging people on without a clear message.

    Corrective action has been taken, and I am committed to being more open and polite.

    Cheers!

    again, it was a wonderful roast… I needed that, and it felt really good to hear people say what I’ve always said about myself (we are our own worst critics, right?). As with every challenge, I’ve come out of this even more positive and committed towards my goals. I will ever be grateful to those who’ve helped me these last few days.

  121. Classical Cipher, OM says

    thank you, Liz. surprised to find you supporting me in any fashion…

    Oh honey. Bless your little heart. You seem to be under the impression that saying your posts here come from the real Rhett S. Daniels is somehow supporting you. No. Liz is confirming for us that yes, you really are stupid enough to be writing these posts.

  122. dwasifar says

    Mr. Daniels apparently believes that because he got lucky his first time out when trying to get someone silenced on the internet, that it is just that easy and will always be that easy.

    Mr. Daniels is in for a rude awakening.

  123. rhett daniels says

    sorry, Coyote, typo: “topping” meaning to out perform.

    also, I hope you don’t mean physical violence – like somehow you are threatening me or suggesting someone will kill me so I “won’t be here long?”

  124. The Lone Coyote says

    Dwasifar: I just put on a pot of coffee. There is no way in FUCK I’m gonna miss the conclusion of this.

    Rhett Daniels is a goat fucker, a failed businessman who dresses up his fall from grace as ‘retirement’ and calls it positive thinking, and likes to try and impress people on the internet like a guy with too much time on his hands.

  125. Classical Cipher, OM says

    I regret resorting to senseless name calling and egging people on without a clear message.

    Oh, so no regret for silencing your critics through a targeted campaign of cowardly attacks on their pseudonymity and their employment. You just regret flailing around like an idiot. Cool. My opinion of you is absolutely not improved.

    also, I hope you don’t mean physical violence – like somehow you are threatening me or suggesting someone will kill me so I “won’t be here long?”

    Sweetheart. You really are new to this internet thing, aren’t you?

  126. The Lone Coyote says

    CC: I weigh all of 130 lbs.

    Anyone with half a fucking brain knows by ‘here’ I meant ‘this blog’.

    Rhett Daniels, you’re either stupid or desperate to pull that ploy.

  127. heliobates says

    Rhett Daniels in “Kwok II: Electric Boogaloo”

    Rett: you didn’t go to Stuveysant High School did you?

  128. heliobates says

    I will ever be grateful to those who’ve helped me these last few days.

    I suspect we have another case of flaming NPD on our hands.

  129. says

    I’m going to let the pathetic Rhett Daniels frolic tonight, but if he’s just as tiresome tomorrow as he is today, he’ll be gone.

  130. The Lone Coyote says

    Jadehawk. Read between the lines. All that talk about how he ‘lost his cool before’ and now ‘he loves a good roasting, it’s a positive experience, it helps me grow!’

    He’s fucking PISSED.

    Rhett Daniels: Can’t touch me, you pisshead! *spits in your face*

  131. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Rhett,
    Jesus Christ, get a fucking hobby. Preferably one that doesn’t include harassing bloggers.

    Rev’s right. You’re boring and pathetic.

  132. ted says

    I was more humiliated by my behavior on Litz Ditz site.

    That’s believable. Usually it take the courage of anonymity to dig a hole that deep.

    The odd thing is how that sentence is phrased in faux-victim speak. You were victimized by your own stupidity and refuse to take responsibility. Or maybe there’s an apology to Liz Ditz that was overlooked? Doubtful. Adults take own up to their own actions. They are also able to identify harmful behaviors in order to address them. Coming up with pitiful excuses and grandiose claims is child’s play.

    Hate to break it to you bub. You’re not Patrick Bateman. Bateman was a complex and therefore frightening caricature of a wealthy and powerful businessman. You sir, are no Patrick Bateman. Bateman wasn’t a dweeb.

  133. RemembersABeach says

    I heard Rhett was here and I was all set to get out the popcorn. Clearly it would be a waste of time. This guy is a grade A soporific.

  134. ichthyic says

    Rhettt, frankly, you’re pretty boring.

    Damn.

    wait…

    now why am I all of a sudden thinking of a scene from a famous old movie…

  135. says

    Rhett Daniels wrote:

    thank you, Liz. surprised to find you supporting me in any fashion… i guess because this isn’t your blog you can’t censor the unfavorable comments.

    You know the notpology? That’s a notompliment.

    Just to be clear here: I do not support Rhett S. Daniels M.Sc. in any way. Since August 10, 2011 (when I became aware of him) his online behavior has been at best odious.

    As to the censoring “unfavorable comments”–again, Daniels is bending the truth, if not outright lying.

    1. I shut off comments overnight because I didn’t feel like staying up all night moderating. Comments were restored the following morning. Not censorship.

    2. I disemvowelled part of one comment Daniels posted, becase it was an ad hominem attack on Emily Willingham and her children; all quotes cherrypicked out of context. Not censorship.

    Emily has since posted an expanded version of the disemvowelled comments at her blog, A Life Less Ordinary, in the post A Look at the Bullying Experiences in Our Lives. I urge you to read it.

  136. dwasifar says

    @ichthyic:

    now why am I all of a sudden thinking of a scene from a famous old movie…”

    Blazing Saddles?

  137. chris says

    Mr. Daniels, does Ms. Trezza know what you have been doing? Or are you no longer business partners due to costing too much money in litigation?

    And how exactly does one retire after filing bankruptcy just three years ago? Have you paid off all of your creditors?

  138. dwasifar says

    @ichthyic – Yes, you’re being too obvious, or I am being too subtle. Mr. Daniels reminds me of a different type of Wind, the kind you wish were Gone.

  139. dwasifar says

    @chris –

    And how exactly does one retire after filing bankruptcy just three years ago? Have you paid off all of your creditors?

    One “retires” in this way by becoming unemployable.

  140. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    Since you know fuck all about any of us, how can you justify this arrogance?

    Incidentally, we don’t hate you. You’re not annoying enough to rate more than contempt.

  141. ichthyic says

    Yes, you’re being too obvious

    I rather thought it was becoming a civil war of the obvious.

    ;)

  142. chris says

    So, dwasifar, you are saying he is a liar?

    Actually, I think he is delusional. Give me an hour or two and I’ll rant about mental health support in this country (or at least two counties in two states, the result is a grave less than a mile from where I sit). I don’t think I am alone in my feelings here, considering the sentiment towards Mr. Markuze.

  143. Classical Cipher, OM says

    an ad hominem attack on Emily Willingham and her children; all quotes cherrypicked out of context. Not censorship.

    I looked that up, and… Wow. Rhett, that’s some despicable behavior you’ve got there. Not that I’m surprised. An asshole who would resort to underhanded silencing tactics like you used against EpiRen would obviously not be above this kind of behavior either. What a vile, malicious little shit you are.

  144. chris says

    No, ichthyic, the google cache will disappear eventually. Download it to your hard drive and take screen shots.

    Oh, and the movie you are referencing. Horrible stuff. During most of the movie I wanted to slap some sense into the main character. I first saw that movie in a theater with my parents in a multi-plex, and it was insufferable. The irony was that playing in the same complex was “Blazing Sandles”, a much better way to spend one’s time, even watching it twice to match the time wastage of the other idiotic movie.

  145. dwasifar says

    @chris – To what comment of mine do you refer? You mean “retire” as a spinonym for “unemployed”?

    I don’t know that I’d assume it to be a lie. It’s perfectly consistent with delusion, or tortured rationalization to save face.

  146. rhett daniels says

    the below is the result of nine months of research into how evil mankind is.

    dnepropetrovsk murders (3 young guys bludgeon and then torture a man with a screwdriver):
    http://www.bestgore.com/murder/dnepropetrovsk-maniacs-murder-guy-hammer-screwdriver-real-snuff-video/

    dagestan massacre (6 russian soldiers killed by muslims very slowly):
    http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-massacre-1999-video-worst-beheading/

    mexican dr learns to cut heads off and choke victims simultaneously by using their own blood:
    http://theync.com/media.php?name=15644-beheading

    burnt alive in kenya for witchcraft (nice slow roasting):
    http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V5010

    boys torturing dog in mexico (dog kept hanging around, strange?):
    http://vodpod.com/watch/3479753-warning-sickening-teenagers-torture-a-dog-in-mexico-and-post-footage-on-the-internet

    slow beheading of christian (allah akbah):
    http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/worst-beheading-video-ever-horrific-sound-massive-blood-loss/

    korean christian missionary begs for his life before beheading (“I too yung, I wunt to lieve, I want to go to Korea…too yung!”):
    http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/beheading-south-koreas-kim-sun-il-17127/

    man ripped in half (bike cop) still alive and laying in street with no lower torso.:
    http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V5111

    high dive off cliff goes wrong. splits face and is conscious:
    http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V5100

    compared to the above I’m a saint!

  147. chris says

    So actually we agree, at least at delusion. At skepticallawyer he is now disowning the illiterate version of himself and has given himself a doctorate.

    This is why I was wondering if it might be worthwhile to contact his business partners to get him some real help.

  148. Tigger_the_Wing says

    ichthyic, ‘Blazing Saddles’ was a way of continuing the joke. I’m sure we all know which film you are actually thinking of, so my suggestion is ‘Steamboat Willie’.

    Good grief, this Rhett chappy is a bit of a Walter Mitty character, eh?

    Anyway, what do we have so far?

    Debt = $Millions income

    Bankruptcy = Retirement

    Dropping him in it = Supporting him

    Humiliating himself = topping others (actually, that one might be true; he seems to be better at insulting himself than we are at insulting him)

    I know! Brother Ogvorbis was right! It is ‘opposite day’ today! =^_^=

  149. Classical Cipher, OM says

    So actually we agree, at least at delusion. At skepticallawyer he is now disowning the illiterate version of himself and has given himself a doctorate.

    The person who made that post says he’s “another” Rhett S. Daniels. Are you sure it’s not just another person with the same name? It doesn’t seem a terribly rare name.

  150. rhett daniels says

    chris… you silly man, or girl.
    what you profess would only get you in more trouble. yikes!
    make sure to wipe and then cleanse.

    the below is the result of nine months of research into how evil mankind is.

    dnepropetrovsk murders (3 young guys bludgeon and then torture a man with a screwdriver):
    http://www.bestgore.com/murder/dnepropetrovsk-maniacs-murder-guy-hammer-screwdriver-real-snuff-video/

    dagestan massacre (6 russian soldiers killed by muslims very slowly):
    http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-massacre-1999-video-worst-beheading/

    mexican dr learns to cut heads off and choke victims simultaneously by using their own blood:
    http://theync.com/media.php?name=15644-beheading

    burnt alive in kenya for witchcraft (nice slow roasting):
    http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V5010

    slow beheading of christian (allah akbah):
    http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/worst-beheading-video-ever-horrific-sound-massive-blood-loss/

    korean christian missionary begs for his life before beheading (“I too yung, I wunt to lieve, I want to go to Korea…too yung!”):
    http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/beheading-south-koreas-kim-sun-il-17127/

  151. Classical Cipher, OM says

    I signed in on Twitter and started following Jen Gunter. If this bully wants to discredit her, she probably has something worthwhile to say.

    Similarly, I’m on Emily Willingham’s blog right now. It’s great! I’ll be subscribing. I’d just like to thank Rhett the tedious, annoying little bully for introducing me to these interesting people he’s trying to discredit and silence.

  152. Tigger_the_Wing says

    Oops. Slooooooow internet* means that the thread has moved on by the time my post gets through… 

    *When we** exceed our bandwidth for the month, we don’t get charged more; instead, our access to the information highway is cut off and we have to use the information hiking routes through the swamps.

    **By ‘we’ I mean the three teenage boys, of course. Not we real adults.

  153. heliobates says

    And just how does a bankrupt get to own 11 companies, I’d like to know?

    In Ontario, prior to the assignment in bankruptcy, one simply pays a lawyer $11,000 to incorporate 11 different companies. They’re all separate legal entities, isolated from the bankruptcy of their common sole director.

    Voila, instant financial empire.

  154. says

    I don’t know about the “Rhett S. Daniels” claiming to have a PhD elsewhere, but at least at my blog the IP address is from CalTech.

    Either it’s somebody spoofing or there really is a Rhett S. Daniels PhD at CalTech who otherwise doesn’t have much of an internet presence under either Rhett S. Daniels or Rhett Daniels. Doesn’t mean much — lotsa folk take care to be invisible on the internets under their real names.

    That’s sort of the point, innit?

  155. The Lone Coyote says

    Chris and Lizditz… well it’s not like a guy who’s ‘new to this internet stuff’ would know how to use proxies, is it? ;)

  156. says

    Chris and Lone Coyote,

    Uhm. Re that fellow’s adeptness with the intertubes: As far as I know, if you do a search for “Liz Ditz” the first thing that comes up is my primary blog. Right under my avatar on the left hand side, there’s a little “email me” link….

    That fellow couldn’t find it, and emailed his “save all that stuff you’ve been writing about me” knee-slapper letter to my secondary email account.

    And the third thing that comes up is my LinkedIn account. Dood couldn’t use that, either.

    In other words, it’s possible the fellow is using a proxy to email from CalTech; it’s just not likely.

  157. The Lone Coyote says

    I’m not up on all this internet shit lizditz, I just know if it floats like a turd, stinks like a turd, and squishes like a turd, it’s definitely not a chocolate bar. So I might be wrong, have been before.

  158. evilDoug says

    Interesting that he should claim here that he retired last January, while in the linked info (ichthyic, 172) he claims
    “President / EVP of Scientific Affairs ViaDiem Holdings
    Pharmaceuticals industry
    January 2011 – Present (6 months)”
    and another “January 2010 – Present (1 year 6 months)”

    Quelle chapeau de derrière.

    I wonder if the quare fellow will be back to be topped in the morning? (with apologies to Brendan Behan)

  159. bill says

    As registered agent for Captiva Pharma LLC, according to Florida public records, he should not be listing a UPS Store as the address. I believe Florida requires a physical address for the Registered Agent where papers can be served if needed.

    Registered Agent Name & Address
    DANIELS, RHETT S
    13650 FIDDLESTICKS BLVD., STE 202-297
    FT. MYERS FL 33912 US
    Name Changed: 02/01/2011
    Address Changed: 08/12/2011

  160. rhett daniels says

    you all crack me up. is this the best you can do? i felt sorry for most of you when i saw your ugly photos, but even more so at your lame attempts to verbally abuse me. for real… when was the last time you were laid? i know litz prob has to pay rentaboy…

    chris i think wanks it watching mr rogers while thinking how great a
    egal scholar he is.

    please up your game or something… i knocked out your rene without much effort… so i think i am the one ahead… of course i am sure rene would rather still have his voice and suffer mini insults …

    so who is laughing now

    my apologies if i offend anyone

    kind regards

    r

  161. bill says

    As a Registered Agent for Captiva Pharma, LLC, I do not think the State of Florida likes him using a UPS mailbox for the address. I believe they require a physical address with someone available for certain hours of the day to accept any legal papers that may be served.

    Registered Agent Name & Address
    DANIELS, RHETT S
    13650 FIDDLESTICKS BLVD., STE 202-297
    FT. MYERS FL 33912 US
    Name Changed: 02/01/2011
    Address Changed: 08/12/2011

  162. rhett daniels says

    would one of you please take this to the next level!

    or is this how your world works…. words with no action…

    boring.

    but again, thank you for the experience i have much enjoyed this and look forward to more

    yours truly

    rentaboy rhett

  163. ichthyic says

    …and just as I predicted, you just can’t stay away, can you, Daniels?

    you’re doomed, and you can’t see it.

    well, keep on with the drama, Rhett. Scarlet hasn’t hit the fainting couch yet.

  164. heliobates says

    please up your game or something… i knocked out your rene without much effort… so i think i am the one ahead… of course i am sure rene would rather still have his voice and suffer mini insults …

    You cannot disavow what you’ve done, and you clearly have no intention of apologizing for it. I’ll lay money on the hypothesis that you’re incapable of admitting that you’re wrong.

    Are you sure you want to brag about this on a forum you cannot control?

  165. Classical Cipher, OM says

    Dumbass, you think those are insults? They’re dispassionate descriptions. You’re a trumped-up paltry bit of nothing, who thought he could get rid of people who were mean to him on the internet. But guess what, asshole? Your craven attack on a person who was doing good work is the only reason anyone knows your name. Good job with that whole silencing your critics thing, by the way.

  166. Classical Cipher, OM says

    Yes, he’s fabricated! That’s exactly what I meant! (Please insert “puffed up” for “trumped-up” above :P)

  167. IndyM says

    I almost feel sorry for Rhett, Litigious Bully, now that he’s gone and riled the Pharyngula commentariat… On second thought, I don’t feel sorry at all; he deserves everything that’s coming to him, and more. What a fool. He’s the kind of cretin who takes pleasure in destroying wonderful, meaningful things, all because of an overwhelming awareness of his own incredible and incorrigible inadequacy. Supreme wanker.

    Lone Coyote: you’re magnificent. <3

  168. IndyM says

    i knocked out your rene without much effort… so i think i am the one ahead

    Dude, you will take ALL the gold in the Douchebag Olympics this year, I just know it.

  169. ichthyic says

    Dude, you will take ALL the gold in the Douchebag Olympics this year, I just know it.

    lol.

    perfect.

    Douchecanoe Daniels can say he’s laughing all the way to the bank… but as can be readily seen, he’s more than just intellectually and ethically bankrupt; he’s already filed for monetary bankruptcy to match!

    a trifecta of bankruptcy, as it were.

  170. Pavla says

    “Without much effort” the top Google searches for Rhett S. Daniels will soon be utterly negatory. Hour by hour, more attestations of douchbaggery will climb the Google rankings.

    Batten down the hatches…….

  171. First Approximation (formerly Feynmaniac) says

    heliobates,

    Rhett Daniels in “Kwok II: Electric Boogaloo”

    Thread won!

  172. says

    I’m disappointed I haven’t been threatened and had a bounty posted for my info.

    I’d collect the bounty myself, let him spend the money to sue, not bother to respond, let him get his nice summary judgment and never be able to collect a red cent on it (get in line, buddy. Bank of America and possibly others are first)

    And I’d have $1000.

    It would be fun, it would. I’d blog about it. Frame the legal docs and hang them along side all the others.

  173. rd says

    OMG, your lack of financial education is perhaps the most logical reason to stop chatting with you.

    atleast with the other science geeks they had actual intelligence.

  174. NewChris says

    There was another ‘Chris’ posting above so for the record this is a different ‘Chris’ (thus the prefix).

    I wonder if his business partners appreciate the bad press Rhett here is generating, or are they his bosses? Not being a white-collar man myself, I’m a bit fuzzy on the officer acronyms and their hierarchy of power. Considering it’s not Rhett’s address given as the company contact, I think he (the individual whose name/address IS listed as the company contact) would be unhappy with a flood of complaints concerning Rhett.

    However, given the incestuous nature of the CorporationWiki diagram, I imagine they are personal friends who would not fire Rhett for his opinions, if they even felt compelled to tell him to stop being an arse on the internet.

  175. says

    you all crack me up. is this the best you can do?

    You have this backwards, Daniels. We’re the ones hoping to be entertained here, and we’re bored to tears with you already, pathetic loser, and asking ourselves “that the best he can do ?” Although the whole “throwing threats of lawsuits at bloggers while bancrupt” thing does have a certain charme.

  176. Jafafa Hots says

    I have to admit I have an unfair advantage. You can’t topple what’s already toppled.

    (google “judgment proof”)

    That having been said, since Rhett is a philanthropist and all, maybe he’s willing to just send $1000 to me? I mean, it actually would be appreciated.

    I’d even thank him here.

    $5k or more gets a free tote bag.

  177. Samantha Vimes, Chalkboard Monitor says

    All I have to “publicize” him on is an art blog, but I’m tempted to diss Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully, whinging pathetic git, pathological liar, and pompous git on it. I’ve got nothing he can sue me for.

    Rhett, cupcake, there are only two reasons anyone said you won’t be around long. First, PZ brought up a few posts later by mentioning he will ban you if you keep sounding like a weak tea of a troll. Throw out some verbal vinegar! The “thank you for your time” signatures don’t cut any ice around here. We don’t do Minnesota nice and we disdain you for doing so.

    Second reason: if you don’t have some screws loose in your noggin, you’re going to find that having hundreds of people mocking you isn’t as much fun as you thought it would be. Although it does seem your type is more likely to get the banhammer than wise up and stop wasting your time. But outlasting us? Fella, you need to read you some archives. Strange Gods Before Me alone could probably chew your every comment down to the bone. You will make out coats sniny and our fangs sharp. We are the Horde, and we have a new chew toy.

  178. Guestspeaker says

    Guys, I’d say calling him a “bully” is even too kind. A bully generally has to be tough or strong.

    This guy reeks of fraud and some kind of personality disorder or mental illness.

    Look at his CV: he never lasted longer than 6-8 months at any place and the companies he was at are unknown tiny little nothings, he was sued by a former employer, he can’t write, he lies and exaggerates about any experience he does have (“entrepreneurial scientist”?), he’s involved in quackery probably no better than homeopathy, none of the companies he reportedly worked for have websites (they are also tiny, with revenue around $100K), etc.

    So, given all the other obvious lies from him, do you really think he’s got the financial power to hurt anyone?

    I know executives at companies like Bayer and Novartis. They do make about half a million a year. But these guys are polished, the cream of the crop. This Rhett guy is some little idiot who job-hopped and took 7 years to finish an English degree.

    My point: he’s lying about everything, so don’t feed his ego.

  179. Richard Eis says

    Two points Mr. Daniels

    1) Money doesn’t mean much in a failing economy. Especially to a group of people who have more interests in life than out-bean-counting their neighbours.

    It’s also faily obvious that you don’t have anything like the money you say you do. Nor the clout to follow through with any of your threats.

    2) In order to have an interesting conversation with you, you would have to be interesting.

    When you were raving, that was interesting, now you’re being deliberately vague and it is dull and we have seen it ALL before.

    Up your game and dance a pretty jig for us little boy. You were tonights entertainment and i am bitterly disappointed. Not a single fiery goat.

  180. says

    Coyote, that’s very sweet of you, but I claim first whack at PoisonTwat, since apparently he’s out of bed and wandering around without supervision. I think he’ll find it a little harder to take me out. Also, I reckon mine’s bigger than his.

    If he does fiund a sheriff to serve me something, mine’s a cold beer.

    Tell you what, US$10,000 and I’ll out myself. Cash up front, obviously, since I’m a mercenary little bastard.

  181. The Lone Coyote says

    Not to brag or anything, but I am the person on this thread he’s come closest to threatening…

    OK, maybe I’m bragging a little. Teehee.

  182. says

    I wouldn’t dream of using the C-word. A cunt is a beautiful, natural thing, which this guy obviously is not.

    I tend not to think of the t-word as a gendered insult. Sorry. It has to me, not the sound of something beautiful to be worshipped with other beautiful parts of the anatomy (depending on sexual preference and gender identity) but instead the horrible smack one would instantly associate with a sockful of post-binge vomit hitting the visage of a subhuman travesty composed entire of mouth and suspiciously-stained ego.

    I apologise if I have given offence.

  183. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    so who is laughing now

    I am. You’re a hilarious joke.

    Mr. Big CEO arguing on the internet and writing like a 12 year old.

    Hi-fucking-larious.

  184. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Jafafa:

    I’m disappointed I haven’t been threatened and had a bounty posted for my info.

    Me too. :(

    Granted, I haven’t been my snarky self lately and my comments have been short. I figured that calling Rhett a literal weasel-fucker would get me somewhere, even if it was just tone-trolling.

    Anyway, Rhett Daniels seems to do pretty well on the psychopath test. The sad part is, that should make him a better slimy capitalist and not a doucheyacht who is full of impotent rage.

  185. says

    Anarchic Teapot, where are you from? English or Welsh, guessing by the front page of your blog. Anyway, I’m told that “twat” carries a much heavier insult charge in the US than in the UK or Aus. And is much more strongly associated with female genitalia.

    Anyway, an incident involving some arsehole douchebags derisively calling a skeptic woman a twat has recently been the focus of some truly massive flame wars. So people here are a bit twitchy on the topic. Consider it a heads-up on local mores.

    I do love your turn of phrase there, and I hope you stick around!

  186. machintelligence says

    I have not had this much fun reading the comments since Andreas Moritz (the Uberquack) got handed his ass on a platter.

    Rhett S. Daniels: All hat, no cows.

  187. Minnie The Finn says

    Since I started following Pharyngula, it has become one of the great goals in my life to be threatened by a lawsuit.

    The fact that it hasn’t happened yet is because I’ve been too nice and timid altogether, but I’m working on it, and hence take this opportunity to practice on a soft target:

    Hey Mr. Daniels: in Europe, ‘businessmen’ like you wouldn’t survive a day – in a tenth grade classroom.

    We have flora that are smarter than you.

  188. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    Ugh… Rhett has the worst grammar I’ve ever seen.

    He spent seven years (count ‘em, seven) getting a degree in English. Surely seven years worth of immersion in English studies would have taught him some grammar. I spent 3½ years getting a degree in something else and I can write the English gooder than him. I daresay the rest of us can say similar things, even those who haven’t been to college.

  189. RemembersABeach says

    Anarchic Teapot @230 – can I just say how pleasant it is to have someone NOT respond with “I don’t have a problem with that word, so I can use it as much as I want.” What a nice change. Thank you.

  190. rd says

    are you kidding? i love this stuff. i tried 7 years to get attention as a musician, and you all have given me 1000x that in a week.

    if i can keep this up as long as possible, i will.

    please, keep posting. just need more original insults and stuff.

    bring it on poor people!

    r

  191. pj says

    Voldemort’s balls, can that one be for real? Daniels comes across like a Very Young Person who just has discovered the joys of trolling. That he’s a grown-up boggles the mind…

  192. says

    rhett daniels, litigious bully and odious human being:

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    Sorry, little buddy, ordering vitamins from China and bragging about it is hardly an accomplishment. It’s really the act of someone pathetically insecure. As for successful: I think I have a completely different metric of “success” than you do. To me, success is living a life that leaves the world a better place. By that metric, you are one of the least successful people I’ve had the misfortune to encounter. As my father-in-law would say, “God could’ve made a good human from your skin.”

    As for money: I have plenty, thanks. And, I’ve never been so poor at it that I’ve had to file bankruptcy. So, no, Babycakes, I’m not jealous of you at all. Sorry.

    From what I see, you’re nothing but an insecure loser. You have to go online and attack other people just to get “excited.” It’s a rather strange fetish, but whatever. While I’d prefer you’d stick to your second-favorite fetish, autoerotic asphyxiation — as you could only hurt yourself at that point — the damage you can do is rather limited. You were able to silence EpiRen (for now) because his employers are spineless. You had no case, and you know it. There was nothing he said that was untrue. The fact you resorted to online bullying is evidence you know what he said was true.

    It’s sad you think so little of your own life that you fight so hard when you see an objective description of it. It must’ve been a shock to see someone write so clearly and honestly about your accomplishments — or really, lack thereof. To spell it out like that, to see that all your pride is invested in things that are boringly trivial, must really hurt.

    Seriously, comparing yourself to Robert Stockstad? The man who did actual research and developed or discovered real vitamins and drugs? That’d be like me comparing myself to von Neumann. You haven’t developed shit, my little banty rooster. And you know it. That’s really the saddest, most pathetic part of it all. You know you haven’t accomplished a single fucking thing with your life, despite all those big dreams of success you had. All you’ve done is attempt to tear down people who are accomplishing real things in life.

    Y’know how I know this? Look at those real doctors you attempted to defame on Twitter. Did even one of them threaten you, or bully you? No. They are secure enough in their profession to know you are nothing but a pissant wannabe. People who accomplish real things don’t need to bully, and they don’t need to threaten, and they don’t need to posture. And they certainly don’t need to brag.

    You, in contrast, brag about your litigious nature. That’s the sign of someone who knows they haven’t accomplished a single damned thing with their life. You brag about the most trivial things, like a child who’s finally learned to use the bathroom.

    You are essentially bragging about being housebroken.

    And that’s kinda sad.

    And, you’re a shitty guitar player. Your music sucks worm poop.

  193. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    are you kidding? i love this stuff. i tried 7 years to get attention as a musician, and you all have given me 1000x that in a week.

    um hummm

    You keep telling yourself that little buddy.

  194. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    Your music sucks worm poop.

    The ultimate putdown. :-)

  195. Forbidden Snowflake says

    i tried 7 years to get attention as a musician, and you all have given me 1000x that in a week.

    Ooh! Can I have a link to some of your music? With a thinker like you as its author, it surely is of Matchbox 20 quality!

  196. Lawrence says

    Mr. Rhett is also, himself, in violation of the FRCP (Federal Rules of Civil Procedures) by attempting to “destroy / erase” his online presence by the deletion of various accounts (YouTube, LinkedIn, etc) after notifying LizDitz of her responsibility to preserve data in anticipation of potential litigation – unfortunately for our bully troll, that responsibility to preserve actually works both ways – so he’s already set himself up for summation judgement at best & sanctions at worst.

    As a corporate eDiscovery expert, I can tell you that he’s screwed himself. Judges aren’t taking kindly to these types of activities.

  197. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Rhett,
    Seriously, who is advising you*? No lawyer worth their salt would condone this type of behavior.

    Oh wait, it’s not like you’ve got a corporate attorney, is it? What with you being unemployed and bankrupt.

    If your metric of success is I can tank more companies that you can!, then yes, you can consider yourself more successful than I am**. But if we’re measuring success based on personal happiness, my guess is that I’ve got you beat by a long shot.

    *Besides your bankruptcy attorney, of course.

    **But you’re prolly still not as successful as, say, George W Bush or Donald Trump. Those guys are guaranteed business killers!

  198. Zorander says

    Speaking as someone recently involved in a particularly hateful exchange regarding a similar problem, I second RemembersABeach, anarchic teapot – thanks for not being a privileged douche.

  199. IndyM says

    @Nigel, #247

    Bravo, Nigel, bravo. That takedown was a thing of beauty. And I assume that you didn’t need 7 years of studying “English Writing” in order to do it.

    BA in “English Writing”…hee hee hee. I wonder if that’s the same thing as a BS in Science Stuff.

  200. heliobates says

    if i can keep this up as long as possible, i will.

    The ban will happen sometime today. Then you’ll be forced back onto your winning personality, online bullying and “music” to get attention.

    Flaming narcissist that you are, this will all somehow constitute evidence that you “won” something.

    You know, for someone who so pugnacious, you could not do more damage to yourself than by being you throughout this affair. It’s as if you were so determined to protect your reputation that you took it behind the dumpster and shot it twice in the head. Sort of: “if I can’t have you, then no one will.”

  201. IndyM says

    @ Audley

    Our Rhett does not have a lawyer yet, but is ALREADY ADVERTISING ON CRAIGSLIST FOR ONE!! He even posted a link to the ad on (IIRC) Liz’s thread. Oh noes!!

  202. heliobates says

    The ultimate putdown. :-)

    I was going to say “like Nickleback on cat tranquilizers”.

  203. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    IndyM,
    Oh ha! Yes, a lawyer found through Craigslist is definitely going to be the cream of the crop.

    Oh god, sorry. I just can’t stop laughing at Rhett’s ineptitude.

  204. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Indy,
    Just checked and yup, Rhett posted a Craigslist ad for an attorney.

    I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING! This is just too good.

  205. speedwell says

    This loser reminds me more than I can tell of L. Ron Hubbard. Same grandiose pomposity, same puffing of failures into claims of vigorous success, same sociopathic throwing-around-of-weight, same “I’m rubber, you’re glue” childish reaction to criticism.

  206. chris says

    Lawrence:

    Mr. Rhett is also, himself, in violation of the FRCP (Federal Rules of Civil Procedures)

    Over on Liz’s blog I pointed Mr. Daniels over to the case of Kathleen Seidel versus Clifford Shoemaker. I listed her “Welcome to My Conspiracy” where Mr. Shoemaker responds to the court in New Hampshire with statements like:

    “Ms. Seidel and her husband have apparently obtained control of Wikipedia, a free internet encyclopedia, and have used that to injure Dr. Geier’s reputation.” and

    “She is the self proclaimed leader of a conspiracy to obstruct justice and as such is not entitled to the limited privilege of a non-involved journalist, who is merely reporting the news.”

    I then linked to her article “Sanctioned” which gives the judges final orders.

    Mr. Daniels response to those two were “chris, thank you for the case law and information. i would not be able to proceed without such information.” Which leads me to believe he has not read either page.

    So I asked him who won the case and what was the outcome, and his answer was: “I did read it, and it is very clear that the judge followed the rule of law. It was a good example of procedural error. Again, thank you for sharing it!”

    So trying to get a actual answer out of him, I made it easy. I took a sentence of the last paragraph and multiple times asked him to actually fill out the name and what went after the word “attend”:

    As a sanction from this court, __________ is ordered to attend within…

    He has even refused to answer that simple request. Which you can see here.

    And I see you posted there as I was writing this!

  207. amc says

    Sure, Rhett S. Daniels is obviously a total asshole, but is it approriate to use sizism as a putdown? Little people are awesome, and I don’t think that calling someone a “little man” addresses the “Big Manly Dude” mindset in the correct way. What if it was a woman who was bullying everyone; “pathetic little woman” would tend to indicate that the woman was short in stature wouldn’t it?

    I’m still learning about all this, and this is a genuine question and not an attempt at trolling.

  208. says

    Y’know how we’ve this standard ‘moar better trolls’ request tends to come up in threads like this?

    Well, in that vein, can I request a better capitalist villain, here?

    I mean, I’m afraid I must regretfully inform the writers I’m now finding this one kinda lame and pitiable, and it’s just… y’know…

    Well, it’s a bit of a letdown, drama-wise, is all, see?

    I mean, a guy in a limo rolling his cigars up in Benjamins and directing via his faceless lackeys the ruin of all who oppose his dastardly plans, that‘s the proper trope; that’s what we’re looking for, here. Or that’s what I thought I signed up for, anyway, when I heard someone had successfully slimed a skeptical writer off the net by intimidating his employers… It’s like, sweet, a supervillain! This is gonna be great! I loves me a good maniacal cackle, much as the next guy…

    The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, on the other hand, let’s face it, it’s kinda a depressing film, really…

    … and this one isn’t even gonna end properly, except as farce, either, is it? More I look at it, I figure this palooka’s probably just gonna doom even his limited success so far by the expedient of so unwisely continuing to blather on about this, and once Najera’s bosses realize what lameness resides behind the flak they received, they’re just gonna say ‘screw it; as you were; and geez do we feel embarrassed now for not just redirecting his blither to the spam folder’…

    It’s just sad. It’s like: listen, I asked for Alan Rickman. Not Don Knotts.

  209. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    You know, after Rhett claimed that he “gots [his] PhD now”, I’m kind of surprised that he didn’t claim to be a lawyer, too.

    Rhett, did you just discover the American legal system, too? CigaRHETT: internet n00b, completely ignorant of civil law. Hire him today!

  210. evilDoug says

    if i can keep this up as long as possible, i will.

    Well isn’t that a carefully crafted statement! Even a gradjit of Prager U ought to be able to do better.
    ~~~
    His bit about getting attention reminded of the episode where Bart Simpson admits that attention for bad behavior is better than no attention. It is kind of tragic in the case of a ten year old. “Pathetic”, in the contemptuous sense, seems apt here.

  211. says

    @amc:

    I earlier posted something to that same nature. Sizism and “penis length” seem to be put forward a few times too often when talking about douchebaggy men or MRAs. I think those kinds of statements are a tad bit close to the voice of the patriarchy to be said on Pharyngula.

  212. IndyM says

    @AMC

    I could be wrong, but using “little” in the way it has been used here does not refer to “little people”. No one is using small stature as an insult. I believe it’s being used in the sense of a “small-minded person,” a “petty person.” If I’m incorrect, I apologize.

  213. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    Well, in that vein, can I request a better capitalist villain, here?

    Or at least have him in a black coat and top hat with a greased handlebar mustache and a poor blogger tied up on the tracks while a train bares down on them.

  214. IndyM says

    @Audley

    I know–the laughs keep coming with this one. Soon he’s going to claim he’s an epidemiologist, Keith Richards’ best friend, and a confidant of the Pope (you know, of course, that he lists the Bible as one of his favorite books). I just wish dear Rhett would come back for more dialogue, although, as mentioned above, he is truly a very unsatisfying troll.

  215. Don Quijote says

    amc @262

    I think that when English speakers use “little” in this context, they are alluding to a persons lack of intelligence or their narrow mindedness or both.

  216. Anri says

    I tried for 7 years to be a musician, and accomplished more attention in one week than in all those 7 years.

    See, when I want attention, I go home and snuggle with someone who loves me. Why doesn’t Rhett just do the sam-

    Oh.

    Oh, right, I get it.

    *ahem* Never mind, folks, nothing to see here.

  217. IndyM says

    It’s sad and scary to think that our Rhett has children, too. Poor things–I can only imagine what sorts of lessons Daddums is imparting about life.

  218. says

    IndyM:

    I wish I could take credit. It’s from Annie Hall.

    I basically can’t say anything original. Everything I say comes from movies or other pop culture (The Kids In The Hall and Mystery Science Theater 3000, mostly). I am essentially a pop culture bot, nothing but a Perl script.

    Even this post comes only from pop culture.

  219. amc says

    @Katherine Lorraine

    Yes I read your comment and was nodding in agreement with it.

    @IndyM, Don Quijote

    Thanks for your comments on the issue. I find it an interesting one because “What a wretched, pathetic man” (without the additional “little”) would still be a descriptor that I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of. I can see what you’re saying about someone having a “little mind” though.

  220. dwasifar says

    You know, I think the title of this thread – “litigious bully” – gives him undeserved credit.

    He hasn’t actually sued anyone over any of this. He’s trying to find a lawyer on Craigslist right now.

    All he’s done is threaten to sue. That was enough to scare EpiRen’s employers, apparently; but in my experience, the louder someone threatens to sue, the less likely they are to actually do it. People who are going to sue usually just sue.

    I don’t think he has the resources, and we know he doesn’t actually have a case. He’s not litigious, yet. He’s just a bully.

  221. bubba says

    It’s a pity he deleted his You-tube account, along with his online presence, you know, like a snivelling coward.

    I heard that he really put the ‘git’ in guitar.

  222. IndyM says

    @ AMC

    When I use “little” in a phrase like “pathetic little man,” it has nothing to do with stature–it would be appropriate for a man of any height. As I mentioned earlier, I use it to mean “petty,” “stupid,” “vapid,” “inconsequential.” (We also don’t know how tall Rhett is, and that fact supports “little”‘s metaphorical usage in this thread.) I don’t see the harm in “little” used in this sense, although I completely agree with Katherine re referring to the size of one’s genitals as an insult. However, I will be more careful about how I use “little” so that is does not cause offense.

  223. IndyM says

    @Nigel

    I totally knew that was from Annie Hall (which I’ve seen a million times). I just thought your application of that phrase to this thread was extremely clever. :)

  224. Coelecanth says

    Hmmm, he’s crowing about all the fame he’s getting over this and yet he’s taken down his twitter account, his myspace page and his blog. So where’s the benefit in getting all this publicity if no one can see anything he’s created? Perhaps he’s hoping to be nominated for the Kardashian Prize, awarded each year to the one who best demonstrates the pointlessness of seeking notoriety for its own sake. I can’t imagine it’ll do his business dealing any good so that must be it.

  225. says

    IndyM:

    Oh! Excellent. I just didn’t want to take undue credit for the truly genius. Though I will say, I’ve written 400 jokes, which surpasses my hero, Woody Allen. So I have nothing to declare except my own genius.

    Oh, did I say 400? I meant 400 million.

  226. amc says

    @IndyM

    Thanks for taking the time to share your views, I appreciate it. Understanding human dialogue is often a lot like (or about) jumping hurdles.

  227. coelecanth says

    I love how he’s crowing about all the attention he’s getting and yet he’s taken down his twitter, youtube and blog accounts. So I guess the point of all this attention is to get him a nomination for The Kardashian Award, given out each year to the one who best exemplifies the pointless seeking of notoriety. That must be it because this sure isn’t going to help his business dealings. Yup, all evidence points to Rhett S. Butler being a pinheaded douchecanoe with fantasies of, well, everything really, starting with relevance and ending with credibility.

    [apologies if this turns out to be a double post, it appears that my first attempt got 'et.]

  228. coelecanth says

    Annnnnd, appearances can be deceiving. In other news water is wet and molten rock doesn’t make a good dog treat.

  229. Forbidden Snowflake says

    Trackback bot:

    [...] this is just what’s happened to my colleague, EpiRen. He managed to tick off an online bully; said bully then called EpiRen’s superiors, who gave [...]

    They’re not his superiors, they’re merely his bosses.
    coelecanth:

    So I guess the point of all this attention is to get him a nomination for The Kardashian Award, given out each year to the one who best exemplifies the pointless seeking of notoriety.

    Actually, it’s called The Herostratus Award; this trope is Older Than Dirt*.

    *TVTropes will ruin your life, etc..

  230. rd says

    i think the best thing about all this is that I’ve gotten to meet such wonderful people.

    I mean, who can forget the great socratic method legal scholar chris, or all the other wonderful people here.

    in the end i won and you all lost. why can’t you accept defeat and go back to your pathetic lives?

  231. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    RD,

    in the end i won and you all lost. why can’t you accept defeat and go back to your pathetic lives?

    Define “won”. You haven’t won any lawsuits, you haven’t shut us up, and you’ve only succeeded in making yourself look like a moron.

    By the way, how’s that Craigslist lawyer workin’ out for ya? Has anyone even contacted you yet?

    Define “lost”. I’m in this for the lulz, sweetheart. I definitely haven’t lost anything.

    Define “defeat”. I haven’t actually, you know, put anything on the line here, so I’m not quite sure how you’ve managed to best me. Is this some sort of competition that I wasn’t aware of?

    Define “pathetic”. I don’t feel the need to troll blogs or Twitter or resort to threatening nonsensical lawsuits. I also don’t need to resort to Craigslist to find a lawyer, since I have friends and family that are practicing attorneys. I’m quite satisfied with my life and I don’t project my own inadequacies onto complete strangers.

    PS– Is your shift key broken our something? Look at this dumbass who can’t even type!

  232. Dianne says

    why can’t you accept defeat

    But…your arm’s off! Perhaps he’ll call it a draw after a couple of our sharper tongued horde members take off his legs too. Or maybe he’ll just spend his time threatening to bite our kneecaps.

  233. ted says

    Fine, I’ll accept defeat. You got me!

    I’ve had Weird Al’s I’ll Sue Ya running in my head since last night. It’s from a later album, not one of his best and this earworm is getting annoying.

    Still, it’s better than Depeche Mode.

  234. Forbidden Snowflake says

    in the end i won and you all lost.

    Er… dude, The Kardashian Award isn’t an actual thing. You gotta stop taking these things so literally.

  235. Quodlibet says

    In that earlier post, I also read “little” as meaning “small-minded” – perhaps because I read a lot of 19th century literature, where that usage is common. Similarly – “mean” to denote “stingy” not “cruel” etc.

    I, too, have noticed the references to penis size … seems contrary to the ideals this community tries to embrace. If the discussion were about a woman, I wonder if this forum would allow conjecture on, or denigration of, the supposed size of her physical attributes, sexual or otherwise.

  236. says

    Rhett S. Daniels, litigious bully and utterer of incoherent thoughts:

    in the end i won and you all lost. why can’t you accept defeat and go back to your pathetic lives?

    I once tried to teach a young child how to play chess.

    She saw her father and me playing, so she challenged me to a game. She was 4. We went over the moves very carefully. She loved the horsey best.

    In the end, we played it more like checkers than chess. She would move her pieces around almost randomly, and sit very thoughtfully while I moved mine. She would grin every time it was her turn.

    She took turns very well.

    Finally, she moved one of her horsies up to my end of the board. She shot her hands up in the air (like this: \o/ ) and she hollered, “I win!”

    Rhett, we’re not even playing the same game. I’m not sure what game it is you think you’re playing, but I can assure you it doesn’t involve any of the things involved in our game: intellectual debate, coherent ideas, moral character, or a reasonable self-assessment and self-knowledge. You seem more like a small child who just discovered a game, moving randomly and without any kind of real knowledge, randomly announcing your success at something that seems more like incoherent thrashing.

    Can you even articulate what it is you think you’ve won?

    As an aside, three years later, she could beat her 10-year-old brother at chess fairly regularly.

  237. Quodlibet says

    nigelTheBold, Porcupine Trainer:

    coherent ideas

    There’s the key concept, right there.

    Your story about playing chess with a 4-year-old is a perfect metaphor for this thread. Except the 4-year-old will, eventually, mature and learn.

  238. Cosmic Snark says

    “in the end I won”

    So, in Rhett’s mind, completely humiliating himself, making false threats, irrevocably damaging his own credibility, and probably committing career suicide is “winning”. Baghdad Bob would be proud.

    *chuckle*

  239. dwasifar says

    in the end i won

    Where have we seen this before? Oh, yeah, I remember:

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

  240. Quodlibet says

    “in the end I won”

    Maybe someone could send him some sort of fancy certificate. Wait, he’ll probably make one for himself.

    Betcha he’ll add this to his CV: “Single-handedly won debate against a large debate team in a world-famous online scientific forum.”

  241. IslandBrewer says

    I think it’s pretty telling that all his insults revolve around money: “poor people”, “I have 11 websites … COMPANIES, I meant companies!”, “I make SOOO much money!”

    It points to an insecurity over his income, with which I can empathize. Poor guy has a 7 year English degree and can’t write, no actual accomplishments, and is probably unhinged as a result of despair over his future job prospects.

    And the threats of legal action are another action of impotent rage, and trying to exert some sort of control over how people view him.

    Rhett, please seek some sort of therapy. There are limited, but at least one or two options that are out there for folks on unemployment or lacking health coverage.

  242. Owlmirror says

    Laaaaaydeeez aaaaaannnnd Geeeeennnelmeeeen!

    Weeeee haaaaaave aaaaa WINNNAAAAAAA!!!!!!

    Yes, it was a tough competition, with trollz galore chomping and stamping and busting out their fanciest moves, but the CHAAMPEEEIN has been found!

    The Twenny-‘Leven All-Internetz Stinky Turd Award for Biggest Clownshoe-Asshat-Douchecanoe goes to…

    …RHETT S DANIELS!!!

  243. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Q,

    Single-handedly won debate against a large debate team in a world-famous online scientific forum.

    Needs moar grammatical errors.

    i singlehandedly won a big debate on a atheist forum.

  244. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    in the end i won and you all lost.

    Yes you won RD.

    Here’s your cookie. Now it’s nap time. We’ll wake you when it’s recess.

  245. Quodlibet says

    Audley, LOL! And yes, my phrase was too, um, erudite. But we have to make sure that the glory reflects on him properly:

    i singlehandedly won a big debate on a atheist forum and as a result raized my visibility 150%. Sued the ones that libeld me by questioning my inteligence and accomplishmnts

    Better?

    Can’t believe we’re expending so many brain cells on this…person. Especially since a few more dangerous trolls have turned up on the “sad story” thread -

  246. says

    I’ve met people like that: they have such a puffed-up view of themselves that they won’t take any job they are suited for and they don’t do well at any really good job they manage to talk themselves into. Often end up as self-employed entrepreneurs (not that there’s anything wrong with that). And they never learn.

    Incidentally, for anyone looking for science books, Emily Willingham is the author of the The Complete Idiot’s Guide to College Biology.

  247. says

    Well, he does have one accomplishment among the illiterate snippets of word salad on his LinkedIn CV:

    * Inventory [sic] of the (non-nitrate) bacon-avocado sandwich.

    I guess that’s a development, sorry I mean invention, from the (nitrate) bacon-avocado sandwich.

  248. says

    Markita Lynda:

    * Inventory [sic] of the (non-nitrate) bacon-avocado sandwich.

    Uhm, I hate to burst your bubble, but that really was “inventory.” It’s one of his first accomplishments, from when he worked at 7-Eleven.

  249. Quodlibet says

    “bacon-avocado sandwich”

    OK, finally something of value from Rhatt! I mean Rhett. Thanks, Markita Lynda, for bringing that to our attention.

    *hunts up shopping list, adds “avocado” AND TOMATO and checks mayo supply in pantry*

    *nods with satisfaction knowing there is plenty of bacon on hand*

    *runs to TET to share bacon recipe*

  250. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Q,

    Better?

    Absolutely incredible. :D

  251. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    I must admit I’d never considered bacon and avocado together in a sandwich. Should the bacon be crisp so as to give a texture contrast with the avocado?

  252. Quodlibet says

    ‘Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres

    I must admit I’d never considered bacon and avocado together in a sandwich. Should the bacon be crisp so as to give a texture contrast with the avocado?

    I think a scientific approach is appropriate. Over the next week or so, I will run trials* of several combinations of avocado and bacon sandwiches, with the following variables:

    Sliced avocado with crisp bacon
    Sliced avocado with tenderly cooked bacon
    Both of the above with slices of red-ripe tomato from the farm stand down the street
    All four of the above with fresh baby spinach
    Extra mayo on everything
    And a beer

    I will use my homemade oatmeal bread for all the set-ups so as not to confound the results with varying grains and textures.

    I will report back and let you know.

    * IANAS

  253. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    Quodlibet,

    You should also try minimalist bacon and avocado sandwiches. No spinach, no mayo, nothing but bread, bacon and avocado. Then you can add other ingredients to the sandwich as deemed appropriate. But the basic bacon-avocado sandwich needs to be tested.

  254. says

    Now we are getting down to business.

    Avocado aficionados know that there are various varieties of avocado, varying in flesh firmness when ripe, intensity of flavor, and so on.

    Are you going to control for the avocado varieties you test?

  255. says

    lizditz:

    Are you going to control for the avocado varieties you test?

    Oh, man. That’s not even getting into the wide variety of bacon.

    This is a much bigger study than you might think, Quodlibet. You might have to enlist the horde.

  256. says

    Oooooh Nigel I didn’t think about bacon varieties because, well, I only buy one kind. Not brand, kind. At the butcher’s. And yes well I am both a bacon & avocado elitist.

  257. Vicki, running low on patience says

    In the interests of science, you should also record what variety of tomatoes you’re using.

  258. Quodlibet says

    Oh my, yes, a much broader study would be needed to account for the varieties of bread, bacon, avocados, tomatoes, mayos, etc. … eh, that’s beyond what I can undertake right now. I guess I’ll just have to stick to random sampling and anecdotal evidence. I will be baking tomorrow, though, so I will have fresh bread.

    Toasted or not toasted…? NOT. Soft oatmeal bread, sliced thick.

    Oh, and sometimes I slice the avocados and sometimes I mash them and mix them with a little mayo and spread them on the bread…

    What about the cheese? Mr Quodlibet would try to get some sharp cheddar in there somewhere.

  259. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    So, if there’s any left over avocado after we’ve, ah, experimented with sandwiches, do you mind if I take it home for my turtle? I bet she’d enjoy a special treat!

  260. The Lone Coyote says

    i think the best thing about all this is that I’ve gotten to meet such wonderful people.

    I mean, who can forget the great socratic method legal scholar chris, or all the other wonderful people here.

    in the end i won and you all lost. why can’t you accept defeat and go back to your pathetic lives?

    Poor Rhett “Rats Ass” Daniels. Try try try as he might, he can’t stop people from saying bad things about him.

    BTW, no matter what you say, a few mere google searches have shown you to be nothing but a failed businessman and a sociopath.

    Has anyone on craigslist bitten yet?

  261. David Marjanović, OM says

    David Marjanović, OM, I do not believe I have ever told you how much I love you. That was remiss of me. 8-)

    *hug*

    But really, what have I said this time that was so unusual? I don’t get it. :-)

    I wonder what became of the “PhD in Management at FIU” he was persuing in 2004. Perhaps, like any sensible thing, it ran fast enough to avoid him.

    Day saved.

    You all have shown me what my purpose and calling in life is: To [sic] piss you off.

    Congratulations! In your very first comment here, you have admitted to the bannable offense of trolling. I’ve never before seen a troll who is that stupid. I refer you to comment 156.

    BTW, you can have two dashes or two commas around an insert in a sentence, but not one dash and one comma. And to use a capital letter behind a colon is German, not English.

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    LOL. Have you ever published a single peer-reviewed scientific paper?

    It could very well be that the real Rhett Daniels is this comically inept, but I find it hard to believe.

    Why? It fits very well, I think.

    again, thank you all for your patience and support as I learn the new game here. I look forward to working with you all and having a healthy online relationship.

    :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

    Porcupine. Sideways.

    doucheyacht

    LOL!

    You know, for someone who so pugnacious, you could not do more damage to yourself than by being you throughout this affair. It’s as if you were so determined to protect your reputation that you took it behind the dumpster and shot it twice in the head. Sort of: “if I can’t have you, then no one will.”

    QFT.

    Our Rhett does not have a lawyer yet, but is ALREADY ADVERTISING ON CRAIGSLIST FOR ONE!! He even posted a link to the ad on (IIRC) Liz’s thread. Oh noes!!

    Oh man. I haven’t laughed like this in weeks.

    Oh.

    Oh, right, I get it.

    Mmmm… no, I don’t think you do.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

    So true… so true…

    GBLT sandwich

    :-D

  262. ichthyic says

    if i can keep this up as long as possible, i will.

    what, your “drug company” never invented a vitamin replacement for Viagra?

    better get on that man!

  263. says

    The GLBT sandwich is a very fine thing (both metaphorical and food varieties). But what we need next in the fine science of sandwich inventory is a GLBTQI sandwich (food). I’ve never seen such a thing and I can’t quite work out what it would be. Quince and Icecream would really not work. Quinoa bread and Icing? No. Hmmmm.

  264. ichthyic says

    in the end i won and you all lost.

    he thinks, because he might have had an impact on epi-ren removing his very useful blog due to harassing, literally and in the legal sense, his employers, he somehow “won”.

    I’m with the others…

    If Douchecanoe Daniels thinks that a victory, he must also think that screaming at people to get off his lawn is a victory too.

  265. The Lone Coyote says

    Yes Ichtyic, a stunning victory, and all it cost him was his dignity and his entire professional reputation!

  266. Forbidden Snowflake says

    Rhett winning at Scepticemia:

    Pranab –

    i’ve gone off the other boards, but when i saw the above comment, I thought if I were to leave with one last statement, this would be it, and I hope you do include this.

    Kind Regards,

    Rhett

    p.s. Snowflake, I was new to the online world and my life and time are much better without. I apologize to you and all your friends for egging you on, insult you, and crossing all sorts of digital etiquette boundaries. Accept this as my resignation of defeat. You are all too many and I am just one, and – like Rene, I would prefer to do what I do and not have anything to do with you all or your online world. I think I’ll pick up my tennis and working out, and doing things that don’t involve a computer. you get the hint. take care. peace out, R

  267. Forbidden Snowflake says

    And the asshole still apparently doesn’t see anything wrong with his treatment of EpiRen. Nope, he bullied someone because he could, got a kick in the arse from those with more Schrute bucks internet influence than himself, and now it’s time to play victim and snivel about being the little guy silenced by the many… It’s seems to be all about power to him. Bully those with less power than you, cower before those with more. He even compares himself to Rene, FFS.

  268. Classical Cipher, OM says

    He’ll be back.

    I hope so. The guy needs to be verbally ripped apart until he figures out what he’s actually supposed to apologize for.

  269. John Morales says

    [cigaRHETT] Butt Litter Enforcement:

    Enforcement is naturally unpopular, but is an integral part of the ‘stick that follows the carrot’ approach to achieving behaviour change. It is necessary to deter those who do not otherwise heed simple, friendly messages.
    That’s why enforcement is the last of the Butt FREE Solutions – following on from awareness, education and infrastructure, all within their appropriate context.
    The Butt FREE Toolkit shows you how enforcement will fit into any litter reduction projects you might be planning.
  270. says

    I had an awesome, on-target comment on my blog that’s been buried, so I’m going to repost some of it here (with emphases)

    Rhett Daniels wrote:

    And for the record, I think what happened to Rene (EpiRen) was a bit unfair… however, I do see that his private life had overlaps with public work.

    Rhett Daniels, you happened to Rene. You. What you did.

    Let’s review, shall we?

    August 10 and 11, you posted a series of tweets (1) Insulting Vaccine Times and (2)insulting about Dr. Jen Gunter (3) possibly others (I didn’t capture them all). Ren then posted a description of your behavior to his blog.

    You retaliated by tweeting Ren’s home address and work address and other attacks.

    That wasn’t bad enough.

    You then fired off not one but a series of emails to Ren’s colleagues and superiors. I have not seen those emails but I gather that you completely misrepresented what Rene was saying and doing online, intimated he was a disgrace or liability to his employer, and threatened legal action.

    [Translation: Rhett lied like a rug to make Ren look bad]

    That, sir, was totally out of line.

    Then, you threatened commenters here [meaning the I Speak of Dreams post] with legal action.

    It’s still not bad enough. You repeated the action of outing someone who criticized you, at Scepticemia. You posted the contact and employment information for a woman whose name resembled Liz Ditz’s. For all we know, you also flooded that poor woman’s employers with similar emails.

    You haven’t acknowledged any of your wrong-doing. You haven’t taken responsibility for your actions.

    Try this.

    Issue a sincere apology to Ren — here if nowhere else, acknowledging each action that you took that was wrong.

    Issue a sincere apology to that poor nurse woman, here if nowhere else, acknowledging each each action that you took that was wrong.

    Back to me, Liz:

    Again…Daniels thinks “what happened to Rene (EpiRen) was a bit unfair”. He is incapable of concluding that his actions were the cause.

    Daniels again:

    do see that his private life had overlaps with public work.

    No, Ren’s blog posts were informed by his employment (and previous training), but overlaps? A justification for Daniels to harass Ren at work? Absolutely not.

  271. evilDoug says

    … all it cost him was his dignity and his entire professional reputation

    Yup. And if he lost every shred of dignity and professional reputation he started with, he would have lost about as much as a fish loses in beauty from a bad haircut.

  272. chris says

    Island Brewer:

    Poor guy has a 7 year English degree and can’t write, no actual accomplishments, and is probably unhinged as a result of despair over his future job prospects.

    Mr. Daniels has be silent for several hours now, and I hope that is a good thing.

    If one looks closer at his resume on his now cached Linkedin you will see he was working during that time. There is no way that we can figure out how many hours, but I know from personal experience that the number of hours one earns money is inversely proportional the number of hours of classes one can take and succeed.

    My younger son has been promoted at where he has been working since 10th grade in high school. As a “permanent part time” employee he not only has real benefits, but is guaranteed more than 20 hours per week… compared to not being allowed more than 19.5 hours per week before.

    Which is great news for him paying his rent each month! Not so much for his studies, so he will likely take ten to twelve quarter hours instead of fifteen, which will extend his graduation date. By the way, we live within walking distance of his university, as parents we had no intention of paying for his living expenses unless he lived at home. This is the same arrangement his father had with his grandparents who lived further away. His dad got a degree in almost five years, and his mother took five years because she participated in “Engineering Coop.”

    The thing to remember is while worrying about gender specific insults, is that the same can be said for those who have mental health issues. There is a great stigma surrounding altered mental states that a person may not have any real control over.

    I don’t think Mr. Daniels is in “despair over his future job prospects.” I think he has something that hits 0.5% of us in a lifetime. It has happened in our family, and it is not easy (and it was my spouse who visited the psyche ward in our county and the one in the neighboring state… I only got to be the sounding board). The results are in a grave less then a mile from our house.

    I am really hoping that folks who are close to Mr. Daniels have intervened with the help he desperately needs.

    And since you all know how difficult it was to get Markuze the help he needs even with the graphic promises of violence, imagine how it is with someone who does not show that kind of threat.

    So ends the first few minutes of my two hour rant on mental health support for families in the USA (and a couple of counties near where Dr. Myers went to college).

  273. tohellwithyourturtle says

    Can I throw in a little aside? The commentators here rip their clothes, pull their hair, and wail because somebody uses the legal system to attack people that disagree with them, while heartily condoning (I know, circumstances are very slightly different) the same actions by Dr. Myers. Are you blind to your own double standards or are you truly that full of shit? I honestly don’t know which is worse, but both are very bad.

  274. chris says

    tohellwithyourturtle:

    somebody uses the legal system to attack people that disagree with them,

    Read a bit closer. The closest Mr. Daniels came to using the legal system was advertising for a lawyer on San Francisco’s Craiglist site. Find something more substantial and your wimpy little whine might mean something.

  275. The Lone Coyote says

    I wasn’t exactly ripping my clothes and gnashing my teeth either. I found it thoroughly amusing watching this insecure, out of touch bumblefuck slowly realize that the internet isn’t his personal playground.

    I admit I got a little mad when he tried to make it sound like my saying “You won’t be here long” was a death threat. So there you go Mr Daniels. One, measly, insignificant, pathetic pity-point for you.

    BTW I was right, he wasn’t here long.

  276. ichthyic says

    Read a bit closer.

    A BIT closer???

    that guy was reading the cover jackets of The Hobbit and Oliver Twist, and trying to tell us the plots are the same.

    not even CLOSE to a superficial similarity.

    so as to his question:

    “Can I throw in a little aside? ”

    the answer is:

    NO.

    and fuck yourself sideways, moron.

  277. ichthyic says

    I swear…

    DOUBLE STANDARD???

    fucking laughable.

    almost as funny as Daniels.

    in fact, since Daniels has left, maybe that could be the new source of humor for this thread.

  278. mikee says

    Reading Rhett’s postings I get the impression of either extreme immaturity or possible psychiatric illness.
    His obvious and weak attempts to bait others on here looks pretty pathetic to me.
    If it weren’t for the problems he has caused for Rene, I’m guessing most of us would just ignore him.
    Is whoever is posting inder the name Rhett Daniels really the same guy? If so I’m underimpressed.

  279. ichthyic says

    If it weren’t for the problems he has caused for Rene, I’m guessing most of us would just ignore him.

    a reasonable conclusion.

  280. Samantha Vimes, Chalkboard Monitor says

    Rhett won?

    The only game he implied challenging us with, was his ability to outlast us. We haven’t heard anything from squeaky toy for a while; his claim of winning actually appears to be his attempt to sneak off without anyone noticing he lost at his game.

    or else
    He was playing a different game than anyone else. I still suspect the game was “pretending to be Rhett Daniels and laughing at a third party being insulted”. The troll style is familiar and it could very well be a pretender.

    or else
    He’s just disconnected from reality.

    I think the first scenario is the least Rhettched possibility myself.

  281. Guestspeaker says

    @chris

    I’d agree that he likely has some sort of mental illness. One possibility in particular is a kind of personality disorder

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652

    They can be very litigious (i.e. raise legal action often), see e.g. http://library.findlaw.com/2006/May/2/241548.html).

    I’ve crossed paths with someone with a PD and had to deal with the legal fallout. No charges were raised in the end because the person was obviously mentally ill, but this Rhett guy just stinks of that kind of thing.

    It doesn’t excuse his behavior and he should be put in his place, but it’s important to understand what you’re dealing with. NO amount of logic or cajoling will change his mind.

    – GS

  282. says

    tohellwithyourtroll:

    Can I throw in a little aside?

    Sure! Happy to have you. Post your aside, as long as it doesn’t attempt false equivalencies, faulty reasoning, invalid premisses, or strawmen.

    The commentators here rip their clothes, pull their hair, and wail because somebody uses the legal system to attack people that disagree with them, while heartily condoning (I know, circumstances are very slightly different) the same actions by Dr. Myers.

    Oh, great. You’re four-for-four on the first sentence! Are you playing bullshit bingo?

    I’m not sure why you perceive distress where there is only mild disgusted amusement. At best, some of us were angry at the way EpiRen was treated. There was no pulling of hair and ripping of clothes. Nice little strawman, though. Is it something you bring out often, or only when you’re feeling particularly stupid?

    As for the “very slight difference,” one included death threats to many people. Do you know what a death threat is? It’s when someone threatens to kill you. As in, end your life violently. This is called “a threat.”

    Now. Rhett Daniels was never threatened by EpiRen. EpiRen merely re-posted some tweets by Rhett Daniels, in which RD was defaming actual, respected doctors, and advocating anti-vax quackery. RD then defended himself by bragging he invented over 400 “drugs.” EpiRen pointed out that these “drugs” were nothing but different vitamin formulations, with no clinical trials or any other real study of their benefits.

    It was at this point that RD threatened to sue for libel.

    EpiRen posted nothing that wasn’t true, or opinion. Neither the truth, nor opinion, can be libelous.

    So, my Cherry Cupcake, can you see the difference?

    Are you blind to your own double standards or are you truly that full of shit? I honestly don’t know which is worse, but both are very bad.

    Y’know what I consider bad? Someone who can’t tell the fucking difference between a series of escalating death threats to many people over the course of years, and someone who tells the fucking truth.

    Do you need to borrow a perspective? You seem to have lost yours.

  283. David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. says

    GS: “I’d agree that he likely has some sort of mental illness. One possibility in particular is a kind of personality disorder”

    Well, strictly speaking, personality disorders are not mental illnesses – such as mental illness can be said to exist; but they are definitely causes for concern regarding the behaviour of people who could legitimately be diagnosed as having them.

    As for Rhett Daniels… yes, his behaviour regarding EpiRen’s blog has more than a tinge of NPD about it. As you correctly say, it stinks of that kind of thing! This can be verified by cross-referencing his behaviour with the criteria in DSM IV TR:

    A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    1- Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

    Looking at RD’s LinkedIn profile, we can see some evidence of this… “Highly skilled executive who excels at taking small struggling companies from low to high revenues in short periods”; “One of the most successful non-lawyer ProSe litigants in history”; “oast an impressive record of the most pharmaceutical drug products ever developed by one person (over 400) in the history of pharma” … so, count the first… four more to go!

    2- Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

    Okay – again – from the LinkedIn profile, we have this:

    Goals:
    (1) To lead a small pharma company from less than $20 million/yr to over $1 billion/yr in revenues;
    (2) To feed 82 million Africans with my new unique ingredients that purifies water while provided demographic and staple-deficient based vitamins to provide min RDA based on regional disparities;
    (3) To run the Florida (my home) Department of Health.

    I think we can count a second, so we now only have to find three more to suggest that this person is very much a narcissist!

    3- Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

    Direct evidence of this is probably scarce although other readers may have seen it where I have not yet had chance to look.

    4- Requires excessive admiration

    He probably does require of people this excessive admiration but I can’t be that bothered to find it. If anyone can provide an example or two of this, feel free to add it!

    5- Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

    The fact that he feels that he is right to act in a particular way towards Epiren, whilst arguing that none may do the same to him, suggests this… in particular, his requirement that people keep comment-posts that he has made up on their blogs whilst – at the same time – trying to erase his own internet presence, contrary to certain rules in US law. So, we now have a count of three; two to go, folks!

    6- Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

    Well, he’s certainly taken advantage of Rene’s (cowardly, in my opinion) employers to – regardless of what he may claim – get Rene off the blogging world. I count a fourth. One to go!

    7- Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

    8- Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her

    9- Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

    His claim that he has ‘defeated’ us all indicates this quality about him. We now have a count of five, with a possibility of increasing that count to seven.

    Conclusion: GS is correct in suggesting this as a possible presenting problem here.

    GS: “It doesn’t excuse his behavior and he should be put in his place, but it’s important to understand what you’re dealing with. NO amount of logic or cajoling will change his mind.”

    Absolutely agreed on all those points. And especially on that last one!

    In other words, Rhett Daniels is a narcissistic piece of shit, who is morally bankrupt (as well as financially, if certain information is accurate)! NB- I have not conducted a diagnosis here! ;)

    Background here: I trained in psychology, including assessment and diagnosis. I specialise in teaching, learning and development; personality development and personality diagnostics go hand in hand. Professionally, of course, I could not express the idea that Daniels is a worthless piece of shit. But since I have not been asked for a professional opinion, and since I am writing here as an individual, I’m going to assert that he is not as valuable as the diarrhoea that I flushed down the toilet this morning.

  284. Guestspeaker says

    David,

    Thanks very much for the great, interesting insight.

    I happened to notice some of evidence for point 3, mainly in the form of “name dropping” on his LinkedIn CV:

    3- Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

    “Mentored under Art Deas who taught me how to work with assholes and nice people while maintaining my integrity.”

    “While pursuing a PhD in Management at FIU under Galen Kroeck’s tutelage, I taught senior courses in management”

    Point 8 seems pretty obvious from his posts as well, i.e. thinks others are envious of him:

    i’m sorry that you hate me because I am successful, make more money than you, and have accomplished more in my life in a day than most of you will in your whole lives.

    So let’s bump it up to 7/9…

  285. heliobates says

    One possibility in particular is a kind of personality disorder…

    Do I get no love for calling this in #154?

  286. Heather says

    Having read that odious LinkedIn profile also, I was dumbstruck at his willingness to diss previous co-workers/management. On LinkedIn, that just isn’t done – I can only guess at how obnoxious he would be in an actual interview.

    It became apparent that the only future employment RD is going to obtain is that which he creates for himself, by creating another company, perhaps doomed to financial ruination down the road.

    Having an “ego” in sales is often seen as a positive, but no way would any Executive Recruiter I know give this C.V. any further thought. He’s also got no persistency – spending mere months in most of his employment situations, with evidence of some very obvious attempts at pomp and circumstance in his acomplishments.

  287. Guestspeaker says

    @heliobates

    Do I get no love for calling this in #154?

    You indeed nailed it early on. Right there in front of us the whole time. And a flaming, smoking wreckage of NPD at that.

    I also just want to note that NPD is not the same as simply being arrogant or narcissistic … I don’t know for sure re. NPD, but at least for some PDs there is actual structural damage to certain parts of the brain that regulate social interactions, insight into self, etc. e.g. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006322302017432

    If anyone has ever had to deal with someone diagnosed with a PD, you’d know how crazy it can get (and how impossible it is to fix it). They just cannot see their role in conflict or admit they are wrong. And they always seem to follow these predictable patterns of self-defeating, difficult behavior like we see with our friend Rhett.

    He’s still an ass though.

  288. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    Therrin:

    What have you got against Audley’s turtle? Meanie.

    Seriously, what did Emery ever do to you, thwyt?

    Tohellwithyourturtle:

    The commentators here rip their clothes, pull their hair, and wail because somebody uses the legal system to attack people that disagree with them, while heartily condoning (I know, circumstances are very slightly different) the same actions by Dr. Myers.

    I wasn’t aware that PZ was in the habit of suing people that he disagreed with.

    Unless you’re equating mocking with legal action… but that makes even less sense than accusing PZ of being litigious.

  289. says

    There really has been a twitter defamation case filed Jerry Darm MD vs Tiffany Craig

    In a post on June 30, Craig posted a TV commercial—now removed from the internet—for the Tigard nip-and-tuck clinic of Lake Oswego plastic surgeon Dr. Jerry Darm.

    “What he should have added with his Results May Vary disclaimer is Dr. Darm Handed over His Medical License Due to Disciplinary Action,” wrote Craig, linking to public medical licensing documents that showed Darm’s Oregon license was suspended in 2001 after making “intimate physical contact” with a female patient and suggesting that his actions could stand in for payment. Craig added that California revoked the surgeon’s license in 2003 without renewal, but didn’t note that Darm’s license is now renewed in Oregon. Craig then updated her Twitter account, linking to her post, and signed off for the night.

    Eleven days later, Craig answered a knock on her door, expecting a friend for dinner. Instead, a court employee served her with a $1 million lawsuit from Darm’s lawyer. The suit quotes her June 30 blog and twitter posts and seeks damages for making “false, defamatory, and malicious statements.”

    Craig found an attorney, Linda Williams to take the case.

  290. Brownian says

    I know, circumstances are very slightly different

    Honestly, this is what public safety education gets us: a society of absolute fucking dipshits who should have offed themselves on dangerous playground equipment years earlier.

    Please, everyone, join me in my campaign to install swinging blades poison-coated spike pits in playgrounds throughout the continent. Half of the population (maybe probably undoubtedly more) will squee “Ooh, fun!” and the other half will grow up to understand the difference between civil and criminal law.

  291. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    I also just want to note that NPD is not the same as simply being arrogant or narcissistic

    Whew. Imagine my relief upon reading this. :-)

  292. David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. says

    GS, you get your wish! 7/9 it is! The guy’s a narcissistic twat of such a chronic sort that it’s hard to see how one could cure the fucking idiot of this ‘disease’ …. anyone wanna venture a prospective cure for Mr. Rhett ‘I’m a totally narcissistic cunt and now I fucking know it‘ Daniels?

    GS: “Thanks very much for the great, interesting insight.”

    You’re very welcome, and thank you also for your input. This guy’s a total fucking loser and I’m only too happy to be able to use my own skills – such as they are – to make it very fucking clear to Rhett ‘Fuckpig’ Daniels exactly what he fucking is. And, oh, if he wants to take me to court on this, he can fucking try but I will subpoena his fucking scabby arse to Finland and make him try the case here… a place where his kind of behavioural tendencies will count so much against him that he’s unlikely to get back the America. And I’ll be counter-prosecuting a case against him. Under Finnish law. Which I have a good chance of understanding and he has fuck al cance of even being able to read. Since he can’t even write in English. Which is odd, since he has a fucking BA in that!

    Why do I smell bullshite whenever his sickly name is mentioned?

  293. Antiochus Epiphanes says

    Please, everyone, join me in my campaign to install swinging blades poison-coated spike pits in playgrounds throughout the continent.

    Campaign away. I have been working in the trenches for years. They call me “Swingblade” and “Poison Spike”.

    GS, you get your wish! 7/9 it is! The guy’s a narcissistic twat of such a chronic sort that it’s hard to see how one could cure the fucking idiot of this ‘disease’ …. anyone wanna venture a prospective cure for Mr. Rhett ‘I’m a totally narcissistic cunt and now I fucking know it‘ Daniels?

    David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E.: Don’t you know where you are?

    FFS…can we keep the misogyny to a dull roar?

  294. David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. says

    AE: “David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E.: Don’t you know where you are?”

    Yes. I know exactly who I am.

    AE: “FFS…can we keep the misogyny to a dull roar?”

    No mysogyny here, so reel your fucking neck in, okay? Seriously. Reel. It. Fucking. In.

  295. Antiochus Epiphanes says

    David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E.:

    Your use of “twat” and “cunt” as insults promote misogyny. I’m not interested in another fecking MRA derail, but please take the time to either figure out where you are, or to go fuck yourself.

    My necks out and it’s staying that way.

  296. David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. says

    AE: Do me and everyone else a favour. Fuck Off.

    You keep your neck out and it will come tae grief, so mind ae that, okay?

    I ken exactly where I am. I ken exactly whae I am. And you can go buy a dildo for all I fucking care. All the better to go and fuck yersel’ wi’. Okay?

    You’re just a PC fuckwit who doesn’t see what language is about. So you’re not gonnae get mileage outae me. Got it? Noo, fuck off!

    (Yes, I’m Scottish. And yes, I do despise political correctness gone fucking mad. Got a problem wi’ that? Complain tae someone who gie’s a shit. Okay?)

  297. says

    Mr Andrews: we have had many thousands of posts arguing over the issues you’re obliviously trampling over. Please recognize that we do know what language is about, and we know that you don’t need to spit on women to communicate.

  298. Antiochus Epiphanes says

    You keep your neck out and it will come tae grief, so mind ae that, okay?

    Sorry, internet tough guy. Not grief. Please don’t let it come tae grief.

    I ken exactly where I am. I ken exactly whae I am. And you can go buy a dildo for all I fucking care. All the better to go and fuck yersel’ wi’. Okay?

    Around here we generally offer porcupines. There’s a stack by the door. Help yourself on the way out.

    So you’re not gonnae get mileage outae me.

    I hadn’t hoped for yardage even. Or inch-age.

    Yes, I’m Scottish.

    You’re no true Scottsmen.

    *sorry-couldn’t help it*

    But seriously, I don’t care if you are Scottish.

  299. Antiochus Epiphanes says

    Also–
    David N. Andrews, & cetera: You were involved in what you thought was an interesting conversation before you started letting loose with the “twats” and “cunts”. How about stop being an asshole and get back to that interesting discussion. There’s still time, laddie.

  300. 'smee says

    As a Scotsman, may I apologize for the fuckwit with the extrrra letterrrrs! (ah’ve goat tae keep ma burrrr goin’, ken?)

    Anyways.

    Porcupine. Apply. (and if you are a real Scotsman™ there should be no barrier to its insertion!)

  301. David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. says

    ‘@smee: g’an bile yer heid. useless airse.

    AE: can anyone spell patronising airsehole? or is that also a gendered insult here?

    AE: “You’re no true Scottsmen.”

    At least learn tae bloody spell! ejit. or is that also a gendered insult?

    And yes, I AM a Scotsman.

    CJO: and who are you? anyone I should give a shit about? No.

    PZM: your authority on language here i will recognise. your blog. kindly tell the others to sod off.

  302. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    David N. Andrews M. Ed., C. P. S. E. #378

    kindly tell the others to sod off.

    Not the way it works, asshole (note that’s asshole, none of your mamby-pamby arsehole for us). If some member of the commentariat sees some dumbfuck saying something they find objectionable, then they’ll call that dumbfuck out.

    Antiochus Epiphanes asked you politely not to use misogynist language. Instead of calmly accepting the mild correction, you jumped on your high horse and rode off in all directions. So listen up asshole. DO NOT FUCKING USE MISOGYNIST LANGUAGE ON THIS BLOG! If you continue to do so, you’ll likely find your stay here short and unpleasant.

    We’re fully aware that Brits, Aussies and certain other non-American folk think that cunt and twat are gentle reproofs with no gender specificity. However, and this is a major however, the majority of people posting on Pharyngula are Americans and Canadians for whom those two words are (a) grossly insulting and (b) very gender specific, referring to female genitalia.

    Also it isn’t “PC” to request or even demand you not use misogynist insults. It’s what’s called “not being an asshole.” Do you need us to explain the difference between “PC” and “not being an asshole”? Here’s a hint. In your last few posts you were being an asshole and Antiochus Epiphanes was not being PC when telling you not to be an asshole.

    Robust language is acceptable at Pharyngula. Misogynist language is not. Being an asshole is not acceptable either. Do you understand, asshole?

  303. 'Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres says

    BTW, David N., is being a Circularly Polarized Slot Element something you really want to advertize?

  304. says

    David N. Andrews:

    You’ve contributed some good stuff. I’d like you to stick around, if you can. The misogyny thing is a dealbreaker, though.

    It’s not about being politically correct. It’s about not using physical characteristics as an insult. That’s really it.

    I hope you decide to stick around. Seriously. Even if you continue to use physical characteristics as insults. But really, is it really that much of a burden to avoid insults based solely on physical characteristics?

    Think on it, won’t you?

  305. The Lone Coyote says

    Rapists and MRA’s and scumbags of all stripes deep down think all men are like them. When they hear normal guys use words like cunt and twat and bitch, they take it as confirmation of their worldview.

    I don’t give a rat’s red ass about being PC or not offending others, I just don’t want to lend my support, even unintentionally, to rapists and douchebags.

  306. Audley Z. Darkheart OM (OS), purveyor of candy and lies says

    kindly tell the others to sod off.

    Oh, so full of win!

    No, wait… the other thing. Fail.

  307. Forbidden Snowflake says

    PZM: your authority on language here i will recognise. your blog. kindly tell the others to sod off.

    Translation: Even though it has been made clear to me that the people who I thought were picking at me over trifles were actually articulating the consensus opinion and house rules, I’m too afraid that apologizing will make my balls shrink to even try it, so I’m gonna act like a petulant kid, pretend that local norms don’t exist until PZ personally informs me of them, and be some more of an asshole.

  308. Skeptiverse says

    @’Tis Himself, pour encourager les autres

    As an Aussie, i agree that the use of the word “twat” is considered pretty light language BUT “C*$T” (sorry work filters)is definately not light and would usually result in a serious dressing down in most situations.

    @ David letter salad
    Back to the main issue here, i believe that it does not f&%$ing (again filters) matter what is the norm in your country or even in your town if you are to interact outside of that sphere you respect the norms of that place. As PZ and others have pointed out those words have connatations in their society that do not apply in ours. It has been debated ad nauseum in other threads the results being the agreement that those words are not used, simple isnt it.

  309. tohellwithyourturtle says

    See, this is the stupid I was talking about. Do you honestly think that “the legal system” only applies to civil suits?
    Yes, DM used the internet as a personal playground. Don’t you do the same? Of course not…you are always right. Grow the fuck up and see your double standard. You are just as guilty as the crazy person, and most likely equally insane.