I live just outside Columbus and have not seen this ad yet. What I have seen is one the moans about taking away majority rule–it’s only somewhat effective in my opinion. But another one that I’ve seen a few times shows the Secretary of State admitting (secretly taped), that the amendment is all about abortion (which the previous ad doesn’t mention). It hits it again and again.
It’s like the opponents are afraid of the word “abortion”, even though 60% of Ohioans support it.
Oh, here’s that ad that slams the amendment as being all about abortion:
birgerjohanssonsays
For us who visit this blog, it is like “duh, the lying hypocrites were up to this all along” but for naive people who have bought into the “both sides” narrative this may come as a shock.
“The party of small government doing this? This cannot be right!”
Reginald Selkirksays
@3: Yeah, the “both sides” @#$%@$#%. I remember that time radical leftists violently assaulted the seat of power in an attempt to overthrow a free and fair democratic election. I might be confused about this.
The flyer was published by a group called Advancing Our Values, a Des Moines-based non-profit that registered with the secretary of state’s office only two weeks ago. Renewed efforts by the Guardian to reach the group were unsuccessful…
According to the group’s incorporation papers posted online, it registered as a section 501(c)(4) non-profit – a status that allows it to “engage in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to candidates for public office” as long as its activity is not the main fundraising arm for any candidate’s campaign.
A person named Kyle Adema, of Nebraska, is listed as its chairperson. The Guardian was unable to reach Adema for comment…
Are they really trying to sell Trump to liberals, or are they trying to trash him to conservatives? I suspect the latter. Seeing the list of addresses they sent that ad to might be informative. And they should have found a local person to register their organization.
wzrd1says
ahcuah @ 1 & 2, laughably, it was Ohio that had passed an act that ran afoul of separation of church and state and failed miserably in court. With the jurist mentioning the debate on the act repeatedly and incessantly mentioning religion as the reason for the legislation.
They never learn by design. This way, they keep doing the same shit repeatedly, then claim to be doing their jobs.
birgerjohanssonsays
Wzrd1 @ 1
And let ta thank Ctulhu for their stupidity. May they maintain their grip over the GOP until a new generation of Democrats have arrived,
as the feeble resistance by the legacy leadership of the Democratic party would crumble under the assault of competent fascists, like Viktor Orban et al.
birgerjohanssonsays
Spell check has got a stroke. “ta” should be “us”.
BTW we should train an AI on Republican language to predict who will be arrested for sexual assault and / or possession of underage porn , not to mention being outed as gay.
@ 3 birgerjohansson “The party of small government doing this? This cannot be right!”
As another outsider but closer to the action, it usually looks like they mean spend money on defense & police and a judiciary that will favour the wealthy. Just don’t waste money on the undeserving poor for free education or health care or well anything.
That does not mean the “small government” cannot tell everyone how to behave.
The USA is an “exceptional” country but perhaps notexactly in the way its citizens mean.
A great book about the USA’s evolution is:
Andersen, Kurt. 2017. Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire: A 500-Year History. Random House
In particular, I found the discussion on the very different types of early English settlers in the New England states versus the Southern states such as Virginia.
Akira MacKenziesays
I can already hear/read/watch the rebuttals.
“Oh yeah! What about my business?! What about my gun cabinet?! what about those vaccines you want to force me take?! You libs want to order us around around regarding what YOU believe is immoral or unsafe?! Why can’t we use the government the same way you want to?! Sex can be dangerous and immoral!”
I don’t know if anybody is reading these comments, but PZ, this is a disgusting ad encouraging people to vote YES on Issue 1 to thwart out-of-state interests from pushing sex changes on kids. Totally off the wall.
ahcuah says
I live just outside Columbus and have not seen this ad yet. What I have seen is one the moans about taking away majority rule–it’s only somewhat effective in my opinion. But another one that I’ve seen a few times shows the Secretary of State admitting (secretly taped), that the amendment is all about abortion (which the previous ad doesn’t mention). It hits it again and again.
It’s like the opponents are afraid of the word “abortion”, even though 60% of Ohioans support it.
ahcuah says
Oh, here’s that ad that slams the amendment as being all about abortion:
birgerjohansson says
For us who visit this blog, it is like “duh, the lying hypocrites were up to this all along” but for naive people who have bought into the “both sides” narrative this may come as a shock.
“The party of small government doing this? This cannot be right!”
Reginald Selkirk says
@3: Yeah, the “both sides” @#$%@$#%. I remember that time radical leftists violently assaulted the seat of power in an attempt to overthrow a free and fair democratic election. I might be confused about this.
Reginald Selkirk says
Duplicated from the Infinite Thread:
Obscure Iowa non-profit produces new flyer calling Trump ‘trailblazer for trans’
Are they really trying to sell Trump to liberals, or are they trying to trash him to conservatives? I suspect the latter. Seeing the list of addresses they sent that ad to might be informative. And they should have found a local person to register their organization.
wzrd1 says
ahcuah @ 1 & 2, laughably, it was Ohio that had passed an act that ran afoul of separation of church and state and failed miserably in court. With the jurist mentioning the debate on the act repeatedly and incessantly mentioning religion as the reason for the legislation.
They never learn by design. This way, they keep doing the same shit repeatedly, then claim to be doing their jobs.
birgerjohansson says
Wzrd1 @ 1
And let ta thank Ctulhu for their stupidity. May they maintain their grip over the GOP until a new generation of Democrats have arrived,
as the feeble resistance by the legacy leadership of the Democratic party would crumble under the assault of competent fascists, like Viktor Orban et al.
birgerjohansson says
Spell check has got a stroke. “ta” should be “us”.
BTW we should train an AI on Republican language to predict who will be arrested for sexual assault and / or possession of underage porn , not to mention being outed as gay.
petesh says
I cannot immediately find it on the official Far Side website, but this seems relevant:
https://twitter.com/CaliKatBird/status/1173728751168811008/photo/1
jrkrideau says
@ 3 birgerjohansson
“The party of small government doing this? This cannot be right!”
As another outsider but closer to the action, it usually looks like they mean spend money on defense & police and a judiciary that will favour the wealthy. Just don’t waste money on the undeserving poor for free education or health care or well anything.
That does not mean the “small government” cannot tell everyone how to behave.
The USA is an “exceptional” country but perhaps notexactly in the way its citizens mean.
A great book about the USA’s evolution is:
Andersen, Kurt. 2017. Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire: A 500-Year History. Random House
In particular, I found the discussion on the very different types of early English settlers in the New England states versus the Southern states such as Virginia.
Akira MacKenzie says
I can already hear/read/watch the rebuttals.
“Oh yeah! What about my business?! What about my gun cabinet?! what about those vaccines you want to force me take?! You libs want to order us around around regarding what YOU believe is immoral or unsafe?! Why can’t we use the government the same way you want to?! Sex can be dangerous and immoral!”
ahcuah says
I don’t know if anybody is reading these comments, but PZ, this is a disgusting ad encouraging people to vote YES on Issue 1 to thwart out-of-state interests from pushing sex changes on kids. Totally off the wall.