Here’s a very useful breakdown of various presidential wanna-be’s position on evolution. There’s a rather sharp distinction between the political parties.
Of course, there’s another few hundred thousand reasons why I cringe when I have to vote for the party that is the lesser of two evils.
Wait – Mike Huckabee rejects intelligent design? Really? In a quick read of that link I didn’t see a specific comment from him about it; but I’m very surprised if that’s true.
I’m surprised that Huckabee rejects ID. Could that be a mistake? And sure, Jeb accepts evolution now, but just wait until he needs to drum up more conservative support.
Mike Huckabee, wtf…
I too, yazikus, was most surprised to find Jeb Bush with {Clear Position} . Not surprised he does NOT {Rejects Intelligent Design}.
No worries, that little bit of surprise does not, in the least, lure me in the Rethug direction, just a mild surprise is all.
But he also does not accept evolution. I’m dying to know on what grounds he rejects intelligent design and also doesn’t accept evolution. Is he secretly working on the next breakthrough in biology?
That’s not surprising at all: people like Ken Ham loudly reject ID. It’s a godless explanation, don’t you know, and represents a secular escape hatch from True Bible Stories.
(IDiots all seem to be biblical creationists deep down, but it’s objectionable that they aren’t forthright about it.)
Lee1 @ 1:
Huckabee gets huffy about ID – he’s willing for it to be taught in schools, but he’s a creationist.
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was:
blockquote>I too, yazikus, was most surprised to find Jeb Bush with {Clear Position} . Not surprised he does NOT {Rejects Intelligent Design}.
corrected {embolded}:
I too, yazikus, was most surprised to find Jeb Bush with {Clear Position} . Not surprised he does NOT {Rejects Intelligent Design}. (as in: ‘at least, tolerant’ of Intelligent Design fantasms.)
re @8:
YUK
I’m totally failing at hypertext markup language, today.
I got you, twas brillig. I guess I didn’t realize that the creationists were resentful of the ID tag. I assumed ID was just a euphemism for creationism.
The hypertext is screaming in agony, begging you to stop.
Actually, those HTML fails remind me of teabuggers, always missing an incredibly important, if seemingly trivial, point obvious to the brain-equipped.
With religion based things, you pretty much can expect schisms.
ID is not just anti-science, it’s piss poor theology, in part because there are so many things in nature that would reflect piss-poor design if they were in fact designed.
Amphiox,
Schism is inevitable in religious matters because they are not constrained by reality.
This one makes my head hurt.
I was at my first Hillary event this past week. The speakers were rousing, and lots of people looked enthusiastic…and I just couldn’t get into it. I donated my $20.16 to help kick off her campaign, but I’m incredibly unexcited about eventually voting for her. We need viable liberal candidates, U.S.
@Saad (#14):
I may be wrong, but I read this as “Yeah, I believe there was a fellow named Darwin who had some theory* about how species change over time, but I don’t think any such idea should be taught as science.”
* This of course means the popular definition of “theory” as guess or opinion.
This is a good piece in the New Yorker that explains why politicians’ answers to that question are important.
what superstitious manipulative condescending smug paranoid bunch of hypocritical fools
uncle frogy
I wonder if you tried to classify all the schisms in the history of religion, would you end with a tree of common descent? (Religion A schisms into B and C, B schisms into b1 and b2, C into c1 and c2, etc…)
I would think it may resemble bamboo more than a tree
and just as weedy and invasive
uncle frogy
I think a lot of us would like a viable, more liberal candidate. But I for one am grateful that we have Hillary on deck and that we won’t have to deal with 4 more years of Bush, or worse, Rand Paul. I’m crazy unexcited about voting for Hillary, but ecstatic that she will win!
a_ray_in_dilbert_space,
Is there really such a thing as good theology though?
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Not surprised Huckabee rejects Intelligent Design. Doesn’t seem like it would go far enough for him.
Agreed, direlobo. The next president appoints Ginsberg’s replacement por lo menos, and most likely several others. If you like free and fair elections going on into the indefinite future, it’s time to hold your nose…
“There are no sects in geometry.”
– Voltaire
There’s the “Run, Warren, Run” campaign. I don’t know if it’s a good idea all taken together, but it exists.
yazikus: I’m surprised that Huckabee rejects ID.
A simple explanation: he doesn’t know how to mark his choice in a questionnaire.
David Marjanović:
It looks more and more likely that Bernie Sanders will try to primary Hilary. Warren and Sanders have an enormous amount of overlap among their supporters. If they both run, they’ll spoil each other’s chances, split the votes between them, and guarantee Hilary a victory in the primaries.
Now I’m somewhat distrustful of Bernie Sanders because he keeps sharing Pope quotes, and let’s be frank – the Pope’s anti-birth control stance is a pro-inequality and anti-woman stance. The Pope is also hateful to lgbt folk – he compared trans folk to “nuclear weapons” . Also, despite all the Pope’s positive sounding talk about global warming, the Pope still has not ordered the Catholic Church to divest itself of its enormous investments in fossil fuels. But it really would not be good for the liberal wing of the Democratic party if they both run. I’d rather it was Warren and not Sanders, but it looks like it’s going to be Sanders, if it’s going to be either of them.
Warren has issued all but a Sherman statement. Sanders is where the money is on a primary, and he’s made clear that he’s not enthusiastic about doing it personally but willing to take one for the team.
Oh. I didn’t know that.
(One-L Hilary is Swank, though, not Rodham Clinton.)
You mean the same HRC who tried to ban flag burning.
The same HRC who wants to regulate the video games industry?
The same HRC who is in bed with The Family?
The same HRC who hasn’t met a war she didn’t want to wage?
That HRC whom you claim is a liberall?
Yeah, I’m so fucking excited I could just shit.