And you know why? Because women are taking over, and they can’t handle the power.
This guy, Jesse Lee Peterson, is amazing. You listen to him, and notice that he’s incoherent and stupid, completely lacking in charisma, with a speaking style that makes you wonder if he’d been stunned with a hammer just before, and yet he’s got a ministry and a television show and is beloved of the Republican Party. Religion and Republicanism really are a route for idiots to succeed.
YOUR America is over? Excellent! Good riddance! About fucking time!
It’s finally time for rational people’s America!
Come on, PZ, 12 minutes??? I made it through three.
03:21 before I had to pause it. The DERP is strong with this one.
Good efking grief. I couldn’t take 45 secs. Got to the the part where he says, “One thing I know for certain, women can’t handle power.”
Morons like that make me want to vomit. And maybe we should give the dimmest bulb on the tree more power, it’ll still be dim.
Women are taking power?
Yeah, that explains why Hilary Clinton couldn’t even beat the Kenyan-born melanin-enriched skinned socialist with the funny terrorist-sound-alike named individual for the presidency last election!
“Women have no shame.” Good.
Also really? If only that were true!
Sad fact is that the shameless one here is Jesse Lee Peterson, shamelessly and un-even-not-pologetically quoting Limbaugh’s false and offensive “slut” slur against Sandra Fluke and confusing contraception with abortion.
The stupid it burns!
For crystal clarity – that was sarcasm there.
@Rick – its okay, you’re on Pharnygula and thus allowed to “fucking” if you want to!
For instance : Jesse Lee Peterson is a fucking dropkick and fuckwit who cannot and should not handle any power (or have any political influence) at all!
I am sure some of his best friends are women…
I got to 1 minute 8 seconds before I puked.
Good thing I wasn’t tinkling my good scotch when I pressed play. Just 1 question: why would gawd forsake his/its favourite country? Would the resident deity do something to smite the enemies of America?
Oh wait, that’s what the GOP is doing…
I’ll bet he never said “God damn America”, though, so it’s all cool.
WTF! So once a woman stands up and demands the right to be treated right and takes control of her life, she is degraded? Wow, just wow. I think my brains shot out of my head from stupidity overload from listening to this guy. He blew my mind. Where is his shame for spewing such nonsense.
I thought I had a pretty good constitution for BS, thought I’d be able to be a champ and finish it.
I got to about 1:08 before his idiocy, combined with his strange “I was hit in the face with a mace” slur made me stop. I’m so sick and tired of the whole “women are so illogical!” argument that I could literally vomit. How many times do I have to hear that in one fucking day?!
I’m glad “his” America is going away to be replaced with a more egalitarian one.
Oh, absolutely, I mean between the fluffy pink lady brains and bleeding, why they are utterly unreliable!
I loathe these fuckwitted Pufftarts.
gobi:
No, I doubt that. Helpmeet, possibly. Broodmare, possibly. Maid, possibly. I’ll betcha he’d let a woman use his bathroom, though!
I guess he pines for the 1890s, when women were treated as more than equals.
If you think my sexual autonomy needs to be shamed, fuck you.
I can’t stand this revolting rodent!
Let’s be clear: I’ll do whatever the fuck I goddamn want, and I don’t need nor want your opinion.
Honestly, who gave this dumbass authority??
Funny, I’ve heard from racists the exact same arguments against African-Americans. They’re stupid, lazy, incompetent, and ignorant. They should never have been given the right to vote. They aren’t smart enough to do anything. My brother who is a retired Chicago cop and my brother-in-law have been preaching this since the 70s. That’s one of the reasons I moved from Chicago to Los Angeles years ago. According to them the only reason a black person is ever promoted is affirmative action. I figured that, if that were true,with all these incompetent people in important jobs in business and government, the entire country should have collapsed by 1985, yet it survives.
It seems that if women running things is destroying the country, the first thing to be done is to reduce the number of single women raising families.
What saddens me is that my ex-girlfriend, who is from a religious family, actually accepted that a woman’s place is behind a man. That kind of thinking makes me facepalm hard enough to break my hand and give myself a concussion. I know this isn’t the first time that it has been said, but why any woman would adopt Christianity is beyond me.
Durnnit. I swear my comments change and add typos or take out words (like say ‘say’) *after* I click submit.
Yes, Ive watched it all out of sheer train-wreck, face-palming, morbid fascination. (Do I get a medal,can I claim some brain cells and time back?)
All quotes below from the douchecanoe in question :
“Most women can’t make sound decisions!”
What The Fuck!
“This woman [Sandra Fluke] was testifying about all the sex she was having?”
Defending Rush Limbaugh’s abusive slanderous lies. What The Fuck!
No. Sandra Fluke really wasn’t saying anything remotely like that.
“When I saw that testimony it ..”
No you didn’t see that testimony you idiot You couldn’t have otherwise you’d know how wrong you are presumably wouldn’t say it. Or did you have the sound off at the time?
“.. uh, it huh, it blew my mind!”
Somehow I don’t think blowing Jesse Lee Peterson’s mind would be a hard thing to do.
“The wimminz wanna make choices and control their own bodiez?! Yaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!” Ka-BOOOM! [Head explodes.]
(BTW.The above is NOT an actual quote from that but pretty close to the gist of it.
“..men are so weak, they allow their women to run wild..”
OH MY .. FSM!
“Satan is having his way..”
Riiight. (Eyeroll.) I bet he likes imagining that somehow.
“Women are voting in the wrong people, people who are evil. .. this probably why women weren’t allowed to vote in the good ole days when men was men!”
Yes because now men aren’t men and – hang on a sec! You ain’t aman no more then, Jesse? But that makes you a woman which makes you evil! Right?
Also “Good Ole Days?” You mean like back when they had slavery and didn’t have flushing toilets?
“.. when my grandma went do stupid stuff I’d talk to my granddad and tell him and he’d say, yeah, that women is crazy .. Dad is afraid of Momma this is how evil is coming in…”
Okay, wait? What!? The. Fuck!
“Evil is coming in through the woman.”
Yeah, I was wondering if you could possibly get any more misogynistic and somehow you do. Sad.
Also somewhere in there he openly stated that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Oh & 1 likes, 16 dislikes on Youtube now.
Yes, and some brains cannot handle breathing and talking properly at the same time and should abstain from doing both for the greater good of the human race.
But we already knew that.
You want one that’ll induce even more vomit ?
Here it is :
Women who are logical are trying to be men and are confused about their gender. And emotions are so much better, yes, and womanly, dontcha know.
Then they’ll tell us women have so much talent at cooking, changing diapers, bringing them beers and picking up after them, why they just can’t do it the way we do. We should be proud of doing our
womanlysuicide-inducingly boring menial work. While they do the important manly stuff that our fluffy pink lady brains “can’t handle”.cavemanbebop:
Yes, the patriarchal beliefs in christianity are bad, however, don’t dismiss plain old entrenched sexism and patriarchal beliefs/thoughts/actions outside of religion. It’s everywhere and there are plenty of women who buy into entrenched, toxic sexism.
Kemist:
I still want to know what Misogyniraj considered to be ‘manly stuff’.
Oh & I nearly forget – he also blames women having power for teh Ghey.
and is beloved of the Republican Party
Well, of course. He’s one of them.
Once again a misogynist fuckwit longs for the “good old days.” Of course, during those good old days Peters longs for, he would have been subjected to racism galore and probably slavery depending on the actual selected date of this golden age.
Naturally, Peters doesn’t desire racism and slavery in keeping with the times of his golden age. Instead he cherry picks the things he feels are crucial for his patriarchal utopia where “men were men and women were women” (and, presumably, “small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri).” In other words, when women were firmly under the heavy thumb of gods-commanded men, in their roles as supreme logical and natural authority in both familial and worldly matters.
Women getting the vote – *gasp*, *shock*, *horror* – is the root of all evil. Ooooh. That came as such a surprise. [/sarcasm]
8 minute 50 seconds mark if anyone is curious – that was apparently in this dochebags one neuron-mind “one of the greatest mistakes America ever made was allowing women to vote, it was a big mistake”.
Ye-non-existent gods! Really? Did we drop back a few centuries here or somthing?
What. An. Idiot. I will be all too happy to prove this odious man wrong after I finish my twelve years of post high school education. I am floored that he possesses his own television show. That’s low even for the GOP, which I thought could stoop no further.
Caine:
First of all, I hope I did that right. I am actually new to using blogs and such. But yes, I am quite aware that sexism is alive and well in the world. I guess I just have trouble understanding why women would willingly insert themselves into this stuff. And what is more baffling is the idea of a woman preaching. Many men think that it is against their religion for a woman to be a pastor. Put that idea with the misogyny of the bible and you get a double-facepalm.
Posted on YouTube comments: “The inability to speak coherently was one thing, and the anti woman bigotry was another, but the irony of a black man complaining that someone was given the right to vote staggers me. All I could hear was whaaa, I can’t beat up my woman without getting sent to jail like they could in the ‘old days’, when men were men and the sheep were nervous. His Mamma should slap him around some.”
That said, his saying that women freak out in stress situations is stupid. Is he really trying to say that guys NEVER freak out? Cuz if he is I have an ex or two plus a paranoid step father that he should meet. . . oh and my brother who swung a shovel at my father in law once :P
In a just world, this fool would be speaking to an empty room.
I could barely make it to a minute. Ugh.
What a sad, sad little man. Threatened by women doing things he could never do, like run a company and make decisions.
Pardon me, but I’m having a very hard time finding the appropriate epithet to describe this individual. “Asshole” and “Mother Fucker” seem extremely inadequate to the task in the face of such a loathsome creature.
And people wonder why I am a misanthrope (well, besides the clinical depression and fucked up childhood).
Couldn’t stomach anything else so I fast forwarded to the last thing he said, and that’s it. BUT –
I know, it seems absurd, but he’s right. The proof is on the internet.
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss29/RikRay/EvilWoman.jpg
po6 save me, I think I have a thing for evil women.
This is an extraordinary example of someone who’s so scared and terrified by racism and racists, that he both: thinks of himself as part of the majoritarian race, and has taken on the most extreme racist views of the majoritarian race. All his views, word for word, are that of the most extreme white racists.
I gave up after five minutes. I could not follow from how women are not equipped to lead but that men were and how this moved to Sandra Fluke and demanding that out of wedlock sex and abortions be covered. Men do not do this.
I guess I am just closed minded and am not equipped to understand him.
ladyh42
That smiley seems horribly matched to the statement that came before it.
I thought these assholes like Sarah Palin. They know she’s a woman right?
The speaker is a Black Man.
@cavemanbebop #16:
Hardly anyone adopts Christianity; they’re raised in it (or, in some cases, bludgeoned into it).
Usernames are stupid:
Or speak coherently for several minutes in a row.
Urf.
there was something about his delivery or tone of voice that reminded me of Tim Meadows and I was hopping he would take it to the next level where the joke became clear but I stopped he just grossed me out.
uncle frogy
The Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny (BOND).
Jumpin’ Jeezus on two sticks, i’d’ve thought they’d’ve learned from history, eh.
WOW….I mean, WOW. What a fucking moron. Apparently, BOND isn’t an intellectual think tank.
Shocker.
Your powers of observation are truly superhuman.
“Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny”. I’m guessing they have more of a head tabernacle than a head office.
That’s actually quite a fair question, caveman bebop, though not too hard if you use your imagination. What would you do in a socially subordinate situation? Conform to stay safe? Rebel? Try to change the system from within? Get extra privileges by being a sneak or informer or enforcer? The answer is that women don’t willingly insert themselves into sexist culture, we’re born here. And then since we’re human and not all interchangeable, we all deal with it in different ways.
Fortunately, few people are looking at this fool’s videos. Couldn’t stand to watch it for long. Sheesh!
Evil is coming in through the woman?
I am not and I resent this accusation utterly. And through? Surely that would involve some form of severe tissue damage and that is Not My Bag, Baby.
No no no. This is all wrong.
I shall immediately call for the removal of the vote and all civil rights from all black people on the grounds that a) this guy is black and b) he is an utter gibbering fuck-knuckle. Because, you know, an arbitrary group is damned by its worst exponent.
Luckily I belong to a group, tribe, nation, sex, race, and species that has never done any wrong by anyone ever and is ALWAYS RIGHT. So fuck you women and blacks. Oh and Teh Gheyz (with their Agenda). Fuck them too…well, not fuck them I mean, that’s just encouraging them, that’s what they want…
…CONSPIRACY!!!!!11111!!!!!
Clearly this Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson is trying to force us all into homosexual Snoo-Snoo Death Camps where we will all be Snoo-Snoo-ed to Death by Large Amazonian Lesbians. Then he will steal America for the Socialisms which gives poor people health care and doesn’t punish women for having a bit of an erotic thought just the once on a Thursday. The filthy sluts.
You saw it here first folks. I has done a Scientismic Proofs On The Internets in front of your very eyes. Using Special Logic, Quantum Mechanics and The Revelation of The Baby Jeezis. Put that in your pipe and smoke it America.
Louis
P.S. Anyone who thinks the above is trying too hard to be wacky, odd, and out there, watch the video in the OP again. Watch it. Tell me I’m the one that’s making unbelievable shit up. Go on. I dare you.
I watched just 1:53 minutes of that and had to shut it down before I threw up – what a graceless, uninspiring moron!
Clearly, Jesse is pissed because no one will fuck him, clean his house and make him a sammich. Poor little Jesse.
Of course, now he’s surely locked his chastity belt good and tight with this vigorous bit of assholery. That’s one good way of insuring you don’t fornicate…..piss off everyone who has a vagina and you damn sure won’t be allowed in.
So here’s a question……when we finally take over and get all that power we can’t handle, do we get to exterminate misogynistic, lying shit-nuggets like this? That would be swell.
Re: the OP
Somebody’s Momma slapped him around a little too much I think. But then if he were my kid I’d be awfully tempted myself.
Re: Louis. I love you.
Ciaochowbella, #47,
Ahhh yes. Sammiches. You raise an important issue. Under Teh Feminisms Who Will Make Teh Sammiches?
Actually me as it turns out. I’m nipping to the shops for a spot of lunch.* Anyone want anything?
Louis
* Engages in positive self talk: Chicken salad not a baconator, chicken salad, not a baconator…
Otrame, #48,
Well you know I love you too. Is this the point we sigh deeply and gaze wistfully at our monitors?
Actually, you’re just saying that because I mentioned homosexual Snoo-Snoo Death Camps where we will all be Snoo-Snoo-ed to Death by Large Amazonian Lesbians. Which I admit is a pretty good reason.
Homosexual Snoo-Snoo Death Camps for Everybody!
Louis
Not funny in the least bit.
@ciaochowbella “Clearly, Jesse is pissed because no one will fuck him, clean his house and make him a sammich. Poor little Jesse.”
Think you nailed it! I only made it :24 seconds but long enough to notice no wedding ring… surprised?!
Hole. Lee. Shit. I had to pause this at 1:10 or so because I could actually feel myself getting stupider. Where the fuck did they find this neanderthal? (I don’t mean that. My sincerest apologies to any neanderthals who may be reading this) I just got back from walking my dog, and I must say the plastic bag of dog shit I just threw in the trash has more charisma than this guy. If it could speak it would undoubtedly be more eloquent. Why does this guy, and so many like him, hate women so much?
This guy is just hilarious. I did have to pause regularly to go tell my wife what he had just said. I’m sure she thinks I’m making this sh1t up. But seriously who could make this stuff up?
If this guy is worried about women taking over the world he should type “2ne1 i am the best” into google then hit I’m feeling lucky
If you mean that, you’re a psychopathic scumbag. If you’re trying to be funny, you’re a fuckwit.
I believe he is referencing his mother and grandmothers on both sides as the women unable to make sound decisions…just them.
Other than that, I experienced many eyerolls & facepalms…how about you?
This “man” and I use the word loosely, seems to have not got the attention he needed from the African-American community so he has decided to pander to anyone else who accepts his hateful claims. To quote River Tam “a sad little king of a sad little hill”.
hexidecima:
I’d agree with that, however, sad as he may be, the Reverend still has way too many fellow believers as far as the ‘women aren’t people’ gospel goes. We’ve encountered them here often enough.
KG:
Some people think being reactionary is a good substitute for thinking. Speaking of, I better get some more tea before I try to think any more.
Translation: I asked the DMV lady to do something totally impossible, and she pursed her lips at me. Teh wimmins in power is terrabl.
As I keep saying, we women should take them at their word and cut ’em off. No out of wedlock sex, nothing except missionary position between married couples.
Dude, you’re black. Try replacing the word woman with the word colored. It become exactly the same speech heard throughout the 19th and 20th centuries and today in certain parts of Mississippi and the rest of the south. Wrong then, wrong now.
This sounds like an attempted insult or putdown. Which, if true, doesn’t help. Are you implying that he is not a man? Which makes him, what, a woman? Gendered insults are a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
What’s he doing out of an early-morning Greyhound bus station and without a bottle of fortified wine in his hands? He’s a successful preacher? I’d only give him a dollar if he could prove he was not only a drunk, but promised to move out of earshot.
And Xians wonder why I have absolutely not the faintest positive impression of them, besides tolerance?
Proof positive that belief in the Bible is as debilitating as any medication that can be abused.
Unneeeded confirmation that Xians, generally speaking, are pitiful, but dangerously shitty, people who worship ignorance more fervently than anything else. Going with what they know, or don’t intend to ever know, sad to say.
Obviously a cheerleader for CDD.
The rethuglians are welcomed to him, I am sure their wimmins’ are used to his rhetoric, in fact expect and respect it.
How such a dimbulb could ever be allowed to vent his sexually dysfunctional mind on the world from a pulpit is beyond belief!
Are xians that hard up for community mouthpieces that they take anything remotely jeebussy and unctuous to fairyland?
But there he stands and delivers and no doubt there are breathless, awe stricken sycophants with damp panty liners in the audience…and that is just the men!
The modern Republican party…a refuge for the mentally twisted and chronically incompetent.
I’ve never understood that either, why people of color anywhere would follow the religion of the slavers after they come to know anything of their ancestry.
Tay:
Honestly, it’s not complicated at all. There are even many wonderful books that explain it beautifully if you’re really that lacking in education and understanding. I suggest you read more.
Wow, was a personal attack necessary to make you feel better this morning?
I had enjoyed your posts up until now, however having just realized that you enjoy being ‘popular’ at other people’s expense, kind of stole any enmity I might have felt.
That should have read ‘shared’ enmity… admittedly I was offended and typed in haste…
Ah. Tone troll. I don’t think we have a species for Trollodon soni yet.
And ‘stole any enmity I might have felt”? I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Tay:
You don’t know how words work. Go away until you figure them out.
Caine:
It was supposed to be “shared enmity.” Which actually makes it funnier.
Ogvorbis:
Oh, I see. Thank you, Oggie. Well, I don’t know Tay from fuck all and I don’t much care for people who make insubstantial comments about things they know nothing about.
Golly, I guess that means I’m in a popularity contest. Better finish my tea.
Caine:
Sorry. I did not mean that as snark aimed at you. Really. I was aiming additional snark at the one who does not know the difference between enmity and empathy. Or something.
I would not exterminate him. I would slap him in the face with a big, partially decomposed halibut.
(His probability of passing his genes on to the next generation is close to zero anyway)
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-Can we do another “anti-Breivik”? You know, sing something the asshole really hates? Any sugestions?
My own suggestions: “Imagine” sung by an all-wimminz choir.
“You Suck” by a all-woman band I unfortunately forgot the name of.
“Fuck You” by, er, wossname.
And maybe some song by Lehrer. Or a really offeensive song from Family Guy.
Oh man, can I be excused this? I spent my childhood listening to this crap, although the sexism was normally slightly more veiled.
Check out Leroy Thompson for similar levels of sexism. I remember him saying, verbatim, “Women don’t supposed to work.” Great.
Oggie, it’s fine, stop apologizing! I grok you, I really do. :)
Usually, the “Your’re doomed! DOOMED!” stuff is the staple of horror films, as the protagonists enter an inn and mention they are going up to the castle.
In this case, I assume the castle is owned by Lady Gaga, or maybe the local LGBT club. Put Peterson in aforementioned inn with a mug of ale in his hand and he will be perfect for the role of staring, slightly crazy peasant.
Birger:
Or Futurama. “Doooooooooomed” is Bender’s line.
Sorry.
Caine,
Oh noes! I hope you’ve got some pompoms because I’ll be bringing my cheerleading outfit. I might also be wearing my mocker outfit later on. In this case that outfit is very suitable. It’s a tight bun hairdo, a pair of pince nez, a very spiffy white blouse and a skirt that definitely comes below the knee. It’s an outfit that SCREAMS concern. Because I’m very, very concerned and I just want everyone to know that.
Louis
OK, I’ll bite. Slave owners believed that they were helping their “heathen” human farm equipment by forcing Christianity on them. It was forced upon them, it was not their will. After a certain point though, it became so engrained in the culture of African slaves such that they lost their tribal religions totally and assimilated into Christianity. Once something becomes a part of your cultural heritage, it’s not such a simple issue of “letting it go.” Hope I explained everything in terms simple enough to get through your troll-skull. (To the regulars: I know this isn’t perfectly accurate, but it’s good enough for our dear Trollodon soni.
Silver and Gold. Dooooomed!
Louis:
Good, I’m off to polish my concern right now.
I was just thinking something along these lines for other reasons. It’s not just religion and Republicanism, it’s pretty much everything. Dunningkrugerist success seems to be the norm rather than the exception in most areas of anything (except science!).
Janine:
Yes!
A.R. Don’t forget that the story of Moses leading the Jews out of Egypt was a popular trope for a very obvious reason.
Janine: Oh, yeah, forgot that one.
On the Picard-Riker scale, I rate this one as being off the charts in facepalms. http://www.flickr.com/photos/34748338@N00/3945002962/
Caine,
I always keep my concerned polished and loaded. You never know when you might need your concern.
After all, if hordes of zombies wander in moaning “TONE! TONE!” you gotta be ready.
Louis
DLC: I was thinking it might be closer to this.
Louis, true, true. My concern is now polished and sniny.
Cavemanbebop, there are sociological reasons that women adopt religion, especially in countries with few to no social services, like the U.S. has become once again.
Women are socialized to please other people and, therefore, to avoid societal disapproval. Women still also bear most of the burdens of child-raising, meaning they are charged with passing on “values” to children.
Joachim:
Um, yeah, that hasn’t escaped our notice. And?
Camelspotter, I could bring up any number of videos of crappy male “artists,” but that wouldn’t disprove that men run the world. Is your real name Dave Stopera?
Juliet de Farge, please stop recommending the “Lysistrata” startegy. For one thing, it puts all the responsibility on women, not men. For another, many women like sex a lot more than many men like it. For a third, rape happens. For a fourth, not all people are heterosexual. Try thinking outside the gender-stereotypes box for a change.
Hexidecima: What Brother Ogvorbis said. Men, women, and people of other genders do and say all sorts of shitty things, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with their sex/gender and everything to do with their characters.
I’mthefuckwitIcantsayanythingsmart: Thanks for resorting to racist stereotypes, you fucking asshole.
Anubisprime:
Fuck’s sake, who opened the failgate today?
Tay:
Caine was being nice to you. Here, you want a personal attack? Shut the fuck up, go away, and do some reading, you willfully ignorant, semiliterate box of white whine.
Birger: There’s either “Fuck You” by Lily Allen or the “Phuck U Symphony” by Millie Jackson.
Jonny:
Yeah, I guess keeping house, making dinner, and raising kids aren’t really “work.” Nor were all the tasks women did in pre-industrial society, from harvesting crops to milking cows to raising poultry to taking all of it to market, to washing linens and clothes on a riverbank, to making candles, to weaving….
Because men have done such an obviously good job of “running things” in the world so far.
@ A.R.: a whole page of WTF might be enough.
@Louis : hey, careful with that concern, it might go off!
DLC,
Oh no! If my concern goes off I’ll get rudeness everywhere! And then the children might see! This is making me more concerned…
…endless concern loop!
{Panics}
Louis
#33 Khantron: That smiley seems horribly matched to the statement that came before it.
It’s supposed to be a frustrated tongue stick-out, but you’re right, the font makes it a bit smiley-ish. For any who might be confused, I was by no means implying that my father in law being attacked by my brother with a shovel was a smileable* action.
*yes, I know I just made up a word
Ms. Daisy Cutter:
Oh Sweet Universe, I love you.
Me to Ms. Daisy Cutter:
By the way, you win today’s popularity contest.
I made it through over a minute of that. Yay?
He’s missing the most logical argument: women shouldn’t have power because oysters can’t vote.
Fuck you too, you racist worthless assclam.
Not fucking helping. Sexist.
Just like the moron up thread who said it about women. Fuck off. I’m tired of this shit being said. There are plenty of reasons, which you can easily figure out on your own once you understand our racist and sexist society. Seriously, these statements are just ignorant and smacks of victim blaming.
/snort
Tone troll and clearly you haven’t lurked here long enough.
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WTF is going on with this thread. A critical mass of stupidity. If you guys are regular lurkers, do yourself a favor and lurk moar.
Caine:
Awww. You made my day. :)
Caine ….:
Caine seems to be rather adept at the subtle art of managing to feel superior without any rhyme or reason.
Other than being more intelligent, more knowledgeable, possessing of a better sense of humour and generally being a better human being than the idiots she crushes ?
Why did you forget to mention all those reasons ?
Of course, your premise that she feels superior is false anyway.
You really should put a bit more effort into your comments.
An art you are trying to imitate yet fail. Well, don’t worry, I’m sure Caine will comment on you to teach a thing or two.
Wait…….I guess that mean she is superior and really does have a reason to feel that way!
{Snaps fingers}
HOUSEBOY! Bring me the popcorn and several beers. And also a copy of Big Jugs Monthly.
What? I like large vessels for carrying and pouring fluids. If that’s wrong, I don’t want to be right.
Louis
Louis –
Mm, please grab me one of them nice Healthy Breakfast Sammidges like I used to get on Waterloo Station when I lived in Sarf Kensington; a Chicken Salad, Deep Fried Mars Bar and Peanut Crusted Baked Camembert Quadruple-Decker. I’ll paypal you the dosh – but only after you’ve FTP’d the sammidge. Trust but verify and all that.
As for women having power – well, let me tell you that some of my best fiends are women. More to the point, about half of my bosses over the years have been women and they have averaged somewhat better as bosses and colleagues than the men. More than half of the smartest and most capable colleagues have been women too, and considering the rather smaller percentage of the total colleague population involved I think that is telling.
No but it made ME feel better.
@75:
Perhaps Eartha Kitt – I want to be Evil
First thing I thought of.
Me too! I want to be Caine when I grow up.
Concernedjoe:
In this forum, it would behoove someone making an unlikely assertion to back up his goddamned opinions before spouting them. Also, Google is your friend.
Circe:
Both you and Tay seem to be eager to take offense from a rather innocuous statement by the standards of this forum.
As Matt Penfold said, her contributions would be good reasons for her to feel superior, except that I have seen no indication that she does.
I sense some kind of grudge on your part.
Tim Rowledge, I understand what you’re trying to say, but I am not comfortable with the sort of gender essentialism that posits women as being smarter, better people, etc. than men. I think it’s fair to say that, under oppression, people have to strive harder to succeed, but I don’t think that either men or women are smarter or more capable than the other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7RIgs3eygo
Apologies. forgot embedding.
Back to the video at hand:
Anyone else notice the weirdness of him referring to birth control as “women’s stuff”? Earth to weird preacher guy: women only NEED birth control if they’re having sex with men. So that makes birth control both of their “stuff.” He actually said “men don’t ask us to pay for their stuff,”–who exactly does he think the women are having sex with?
Edit: women MOSTLY only need birth control if they’re having sex with men.
Numenaster: And, like all wingnuts, he elides the fact that women are paying for their birth control via their health insurance premiums.
Unless he’s relying on the MRA ass-umption that women don’t really earn anything, just leech off men with our vaginas.
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Ing: I am normally irritated by embedded videos, and I rarely watch them. However, I now find myself rummaging through my desk drawers for adhesive to reattach my ass. I laughed it off.
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What A.R said @82; plus obviously the White Man’s God must be “better”; after all, their own deities couldn’t/wouldn’t save them, or they wouldn’t have been in that fix in the first place.
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Reminds me of my ex-alleged-brother-in-law, who was of the opinion that if he had sex with a woman, and she didn’t want to get pregnant, it was her business to worry about precautions, and not his problem or responsibility.
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@93 Ms DaisyCutter
Sorry, my meaning wasn’t clear: I meant he should watch that video and have his tiny mind blown even more by how women are “taking over”. And winning MTV awards etc…
Read this then abandon hope the second you enter the comments section.
The dumb. It hurts. It hurts me so bad.
Louis
Again sorry! I forgot it would embedd unless I put it in the tags.
I’m starting to think there isn’t a single topic that doesn’t have a related clip from Mitchell and Web
For fucks sake… someone snip the cable to his microphone.
Ok. Time to do an anti-Breivik on Peterson’s ass. Tie him to a chair and force him to listen to this:
“Fuck You” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWXalOJ1xtQ&feature=related
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Consolidated: “You suck” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxybeZ032RY
“incoherent and stupid, completely lacking in charisma, with a speaking style that makes you wonder if he’d been stunned with a hammer just before.”
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I know! He is an earlier, simpler version of the Mitt-bot infiltration unit sent back in time by Skynet. When they had a unit good enough to replace Romney they had to do something with all the older prototypes.
Carlie:
That is pure win, Carlie.
Circe:
I do? Goodness, more super powers I didn’t know I had and certainly didn’t feel.
It’s amazing, Circe, how you magically know what I’m thinking and what I’m feeling. Quick, what am I feeling now? What about now? What about 11 hours and 22 seconds from now? I find your magick fascinating. Truly.
@Caine
+10 for feeling superior about your ability to feel superior
re: # 122: I got suckedin. damnit Louis! I have work to do! Important male-oppressing work! ;)
Ing:
:falls over laughing: Ahem. Okay, :blushes appropriately:
Illuminata:
I thought that was effortless, second nature, you know, like breathing. I mean, we are the evil, right?
Louis
Ahhh, I see they quote Tom Martin. Too bad they don’t quote his better known arguments like “hard chairs are a conspiracy to drive soft-butted men out of higher education” and “Women in Saudi Arabia are the biggest whores because they don’t even have to drive”
Well, on a small level yes. I mean, if we’re talking about just stealing sperm from a used condom to trap a man with eternal child support payments, or withholding the sex he’s entitled to because he wants it – then yes, that comes naturally.
But, a global feminist cabal that threatens the very existence of all men everywhere – THAT takes work.
Illuminata:
True, true. Not that anything like that exists, that would be silly!
I’ll meet you at the usual place around 9.
The internet has made it so much easier.
Wait. We keeping that to ourselves?
Ahem. The quarterly newsletter/fanzine will be coming in the mail as soon as we are done gluing it together and raise some money for kinkos. Please send a self-addressed stamped envelope to an unreleased addressed for your copy. Tomorrow, the world!
And I have a cousin who regularly breaks down and faints for rather feeble reasons, a male friend with a deathly fear of blood and needles, as well as several pages worth of stories by obstetrics nurses about fathers who didn’t quite have the stomach to stay for the delivery.
Oh and I have a brother with a marked tendency for generalized anxiety disorder with which I have had to do several hours of what amounts to talk therapy.
So no, don’t tell me men don’t freak out.
I have one word for anyone who thinks women freak out too easily:
Nurses.
If the freak-out hypothesis is true, then why are nurses disproportionately women? Nurses deal with MORE crazy situations than doctors. Nurses are the ones who calm things down before the doctor gets there.
Yeah.
This can’t be real. This must be a torture device created by the CIA. If the CIA forced me to listen to this I could not last beyond 4 minutes before I would break and tell them anything they wanted to know so long as they stopped this agony.
I don’t understand how people like this exist in the real world (that is, not just idiot internet trolls). How can someone hate women that much? Like, a blanket hatred and disgust of ALL WOMEN. I can kinda understand racism, from people who are racially segregated and thus never come in contact with POC; I can kinda understand homophobia, from people who don’t think they know any gay folk so their whole concept of GLBT people comes from their church…but this sort of hate, that goes far beyond sexism? I don’t get it. At all. Doesn’t he have a mother? Sisters? Daughters? A wife?
On a related note, who would ever have sex with someone who thought like that? I might not be the best judge, as I don’t do men at all, but how low does your self-esteem have to be to sleep with someone who is literally disgusted with your very nature, and blames you and all people like you for the evil in the world? Is it Stockholm Syndrome? Masochism? I don’t get it! Be a hateful douche, say what you wanna say, free speech and all that jazz, but the punishment (at the very least) should be no vagina, ever.
You do realize the underlying premise of this little rant, is that there is something wrong with women and that sex = success. That’s their whole thing sex=domination=success. It’s not helpful to reinforce that bullshit. They blame women for with holding sex because it is assumed that they are entitled to it.Your strategy of no sex= punishment plays exactly into this “gender warfare” crap. It’s not helpful to treat and equate sex with social success.
Not to mention the victim blaming and shaming of women you put forth. It’s not like sexism is ingrained in all of us by society. Just like the assholes up thread that blamed women for being stupid and being apart of religion. It’s not helping.
As a survivor I don’t fucking appreciate the blame for being in an abusive/unhealthy relationship. I got enough of that bullshit from my abuser, from the cops, the courts and society in general. Apparently, that fucking included you as well. You are not fucking helping. You are buying into their bullshit.
So sincerely, fuck the hell off.
Sally
Indeed, if I recall correctly, a USAF study revealed that women air force pilots may be better then men at handling decision making at high-g accelerations, such as those encountered in air combat situations. Now tell that to the “women freak out easily” crowd. If anything, biological evidence might suggest exactly the opposite.
Damn I forgot to add, Me avoiding/disliking misogynist assholes is not about punishing them, it’s about protecting myself. It’s not all about them. There’s a goddamn difference. They see it as a punishment because they feel and are told by society that they are entitled to sex. We change this by raising awareness and changing society.
Playing their game of “gender warfare” is not fucking helping.
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Caine:
Certainly, Caine, any “magick” I might have required to make the guarded claim that you seemed to be trying that trick with Tay just to feell superior pales in comparison to your own “magickal” powers which allowed you to deduce that Tay was “that lacking in education and understanding” (your words) just because he/she said she/he failed to understand why groups that had been historically wronged by a religion would tend to cling to it? Why, oh mighty seer Caine, you Long Distance Estimator of Educational Level Sans Pareil, why do you embarrass me thus, by imputing to me powers I certainly do not have?
@Circe
Not to speak for Caine, but IMO she’s not the one embarrassing you.
Wait, Wait! I got this one, no magical powers needed.
If she had the education and understanding then she would know the answer to why groups who had been historically wronged by a religion would tend to cling to it. So because she didn’t know = no education or understanding on the subject.
Seriously, if uneducated me can deduce that by simple common sense, what does that say about you?
Also here’s someone talking about the ST:TMP The Novelization passage a friend passed on to me
http://www.alternateuniverses.com/judygran/footnote.txt
Best I can do so late without actually tracking down the damn book. But it confirms the exchange existed in the novelization. Rumors of Spock/Kirk existed within Starfleet.
Just a Lurker:
Of course, I forgot, so thanks for reminding me. Anyone who doesn’t understand the proof of Fermat’s last theorem (or heck, Primes is in P) is “that lacking in education and understanding”.
oups better get to sleep, wrong thread!
@Circe
Can’t you shovel your pig shit somewhere else?
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
So, yes, I’m lacking in education and undersatnding of that subject (I guess it’s mathematics). That’s not a problem, or something to be ashamed about. My education is in other areas.
What is a problem is when you come to a discussion of said phenomenon and make a stupid comment with the “right” amount of arrogance as if you’d made a serious contribution.
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
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Circe:
So, that people who don’t understand something about which they have not been educated lack understanding and education about that something is some fact you need to remember — and you’d forgotten it?
(Sad, you are — most people need not memorise tautologies in order to be aware of them)
What in God’s name is he talking about?
Ah, the ending explains it all! This is about dominant men who like to bond women. I ain’t getting in that kind of fucked up shit. I mean, ropes and spanking can be fun, but this guy is talking hardcore BDSM here. It’s a wonder he didn’t come with his slave girl on a leash just to make a visual demo.
One minute is all I managed before giving up. I do have to commend him on bringing up one thing though. If the only way back from this ‘predicament’ is by Gods intervention then he has to accept one of two possibilities when his God doesn’t intervene. Either his God is OK with things ending up this way, or his God doesn’t exist.
“I mean, we are the evil, right?”
In the context of extreme-right loons, it is spelled “ehvil”.
He seems like he should be wearing a Victorian-era suit with those ideas. Also, I think he might be losing his hearing. That might explain his kind of slurred speech.
I never thought I would encounter a geater waste of genetic material than Rush Limbaugh, but Jesse Lee Peterson has acheived that which until recently I believed impossible.
That this repugnant misogynist thinks that women desire or need his permission to live their lives and treat with their bodies as they see fit would be funny if it wasn’t so dangerous.
As for his idealised past, I wonder if he would like to see the reinstatement of the Jim Crow laws alongside the disenfranchisement of women? After all, many of his fellow Republicans (who pair their male privilege with white privilege) would be practically dancing in th streets at the very idea…
What am I saying – of course not. His type of fundie always combines a healthy dollop of hypocrisy with their ignorance and stupidity.
Giliel, John Morales:
Are you really saying that saying that someone is “lacking in education about subject X” is really the same thing as saying that they are “lacking in education and understanding”? Remember it was the last claim that Caine was making, and at least in the dialect of English I speak, they are very very different things.
Ed Witten might be uneducated about the proof that Primes is in P, and that is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. On the other hand, no one I know will go about claiming without context that Ed Witten is therefore “lacking in education and understanding”, and then be hailed as “being more intelligent, more knowledgeable, possessing of a better sense of humour and generally being a better human being than the idiots she crushes” (quote from a comment above).
@Circe
Just out of no where, I was wondering if you ever read the book “Holes”? It’s a great piece of children/young adult literature. Not sure why I brought it up, just making small talk.
Seriously, the whole Lysistrata gambit is such complete bullshit. Feminist women who give a fuck are likely sleeping with sympathetic men or women who are already on board, and the women sleeping with misogynist douchenuggets are brainwashed themselves and/or can’t afford to play games withholding sex because their partner is abusive.
So shut the FUCK up about that stupid shit already.
Also, Circe, I appreciate the comment about the pilots and stuff but really, you fucked up taking issue with Caine. She didn’t say anything wrong. Just admit an error and move on.
Ing: I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream So I Comment Instead, @ 159:
I haven’t read it, but I might know it by reputation. Is that the one about how when you find yourself in that one place, you change your actions?
I hear it’s really good for people of all ages, but the lack of illustrations make it a little rough for kids under the age of 7. On the other hand, it uses short words.
@Coralline
Actually it’s a touching children’s story about slave labor in juvenile detention centers.
@ Ing
Damn. Now I feel extra snarky, and didn’t even get to snine my fangs.
I’ll check it out when next I’m at the library. Thank you for the mention of it!
http://www.louissachar.com/HolesBook.htm
Oh please, fuck the hell off. There is nothing wrong with that kink if it’s consensual.
Goddamn it. I’m tired of judgmental close-minded tone troll morons.
Circe:
Oh FFS. I was being nice to Tay. There’s a reason I included “if you’re really” in regard to his apparent lack of knowledge and understanding. There were a number of ways they could have responded:
1) Oh, I was just opining, I understand the mindset, I wish others did.
2) Any particular book to recommend?
3) Is there a website where I could do some reading?
I can think of more. There’s no shame at all in not knowing things, none of us can know everything. You don’t comment here often, however, I have noticed that when you do, it’s often to direct some sort of nastiness towards me. For those of us who are commenting every day, it’s tiring to see the same ignorance paraded about all. the. fucking. time. It’s not our job to hold someone’s hand and nurse them along educationally. The more intelligent folks tackle lacks in their education and knowledge head on and willingly so.
If someone is simply going to content themselves with a whine about a ‘personal attack’ (which it wasn’t, at least not on my part), they obviously aren’t interested in redressing said lacks.
Now, would you please tell me when I showed up at your door, barged into your house, stood on your table and peed on your bowl of cheerios? Because if I didn’t do that, your idiocy towards me simply makes you look silly. I have a suggestion, and you are free to take it any way you like: if you aren’t already using Firefox, get it, use it, then go to the Pharyngula wiki and get Greasemonkey and the FtB killfile. Proceed to use it.
If that’s not possible, I suggest you do your best to ignore me. You see, if you don’t do either of these things, then it begins to look like you simply wish to derail a thread so you can make it all about you. That’s not making you look any better.
salahhesali:
Oh FFS, take all this crap and shove it where the sun don’t shine. You are an idiot. You might try to educate yourself* about entrenched sexism, about patriarchy and patriarchal values and the kyriarchy, Cupcake. Until you know a bit more, shut up please.
*Why yes, Circe, I did it again! Oh my! You can shut the fuck up, too.
Daisy Cutter –
No fear of that from me; I’ve dealt with (for various meanings of the phrase) plenty of women that are not so admirable as the ones mentioned in my earlier message. I’m not about to put anyone on a pedestal. I try not to make assumptions about people based on mere externalities, accept that I must sometimes fail and try to deal with that as best I can. Mostly it works, sometimes it fails horribly.
On reflection maybe at leats this disgusting misoginyst ha sdone us teh favoutr of publily exposing justhow deep the republicna misogny goes and justhow far back intime he’d like totake us.
They don’t just want to take away abortion and the right for women to choose without resorting to illegal coathanger methods.
Not just contraception – birth control – for pity’s sake!
No, they want to take things back alltheway toremove awomen;s right to vote.
To vote & be counted at all.
In this century someone seriously wants to argue that! And apparently people actually listen tothis fuckwit. Whoah. Whoah. WTF!
PS. As of now : 2 likes, 269 dislikes. Well thats something iguess.
Caine:
That’s a completely fact-free opinion, given that I only responded to a slurry of comments from others purporting to defend you, and given that the comment you quoted from me was a direct tounge-in-cheek response to one of your own comments about me having “magickal” powers and what not.
Yet, I agree that your concern for the thread getting derailed on what mainly, based on your comment, seems to be a miscommunication issue is a valid concern. I don’t see though how I can be blamed for it more than all the regulars and lurkers who jumped into the fray. For my own part, I’ll follow your excellent advice and just ignore any further comments on this issue, at least on this thread.
WTF is with all the BDSM-hating lately?
What do you mean “lately”? I always hated men who tried to “convince” people around them that their “I am god, you will submit” view of the world was the right one. I wasn’t talking about consensual here, by “hardcore” I meant “I think all women should be property, regardless of their opinion”.
Except that’s not what the word means, you fucking moron. It has an established use in this context. Express yourself better.
Language barrier, we use “hardcore” to express shit like this in my country. I am sorry I disturbed your sensitivity :). Also, my IQ is higher than 70 so, technically, I am not a moron. I am fucking…
hahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahhah………. *catches breath* BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAGHAHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA HAK HAK HAK!!!
come on guys dont you know a court jester when you see one?? he’s quite entertaining… actually very good to laugh at… If i ever saw him on the street id say… ” hey i love your stand up routine… oh sorry i mean your ministr… hehehe sorry i cant call it that with a straight face… *sigh… enjoy your dominatrix overlord in your special room in hell DERP”
i see alot of arguring….. HEY!!! CUT IT OUT LADIES THERES ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE HERE IN THE COMMENTS SECTION TO ECLIPSE THIS ONE RETARD ON THE VIDDY….. SIMPLY PUT… THERE IS one thing we all can agree on is…. this preacher is a DERP-TARD-WAD with a lazy everything….. Common ground for sure.
Feel better?