[Lounge #376]
This is the lounge. You can discuss anything you want, but you will do it kindly. There’s a rumor that the arrival of a little hordeling is imminent.
Status: Heavily Moderated; Previous thread
Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Right, broboxley, Rachel Maddow is just an entertainer. She is just as likely to make up stories as those I mentioned earlier.
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Broboxley are there any specific points from Maddow you’d like to refute?
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Well, yeah, but it’ll be a lot more wrinkly than that.
ibyea:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Broboxley, she backs up all her arguments with evidence. So it doens’t matter if she is just an entertainer.
John Morales:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
broboxley:
You’re cute when you expose your naivety. :)
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I’ve become so used to the MRA’s and anti feminists who don’t back down and realize how wrong they are that I’m impressed at jaredwolf’s apology.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Huh…I guess it was more than just me wondering about broboxley’s reasons for disliking Rachel Maddow.
Mattir:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Shoot me now – bad evo psych profundities were delivered to me, and I did not respond all that charitably,
broboxley OT:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
well except for that coulter creature
so tell me what drudge makes up?
Mattir:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
I may, even, have ranted about the Flintstone Fallacy. And just so stories. Sigh.
broboxley OT:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
cute pic on todays thread. eldest boy’s ex gf shows up for a visit with a 14 month girl in tow. Due to stuff I wont discuss she is married to the baby’s purported father, due to timing it may well be my sons child, her (ex GF) mom wanted my son to meet the baby as he was there thru the conception(maybe) until dang near delivery. Baby was cute. Blind Boston terrier not impressed.
Patricia, OM:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I’m having some of in my therapy and it isn’t going well yet. So this is just a drive by to say hi, and check on the Darkling.
Whew, haven’t missed her yet.
:D
Patricia, OM:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Mattir – Did you see Franklin Habit at Rhinebeck? Do you know what has happened to him? He’s been AWOL since July. I’m really worried about him.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Link?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Here is your link, Azkyroth.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 24th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
I’m waiting to see
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Ing, check #15.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 24th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@Janine
I saw it. I’m just seeing if yet another shoe will fall.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
I’m having a blast drinking wine and listening to NonStampCollectors’ YouTube videos!
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Ing:
I get your point. If he really recognizes his error, future posts will support that. Anyone can apologize, but do they actually mean it?
The initial apology (without exception; it wasn’t a NOTpology) does seem sincere though.
John Morales:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Tony @19, you’ve got the possessive apostrophe wrong, but I too have had a blast watching NSC’s videos.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Thanks; I often don’t follow comment threads outside of the lounge, given how depressing they tend to be. :/
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Pretty Lounge-rupt! How ya’ll doing? I’ve been hearing from Audley that she’s in a very slow, uncomfortable labor and got sent back home. Has she been updating everyone?
xxoo
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
I just had a truly delicious beer.
Unfortunately, it’s a limited release from ~ a year ago that’s long since sold out. :’(
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Also, I got the last of the four midterms I took last week back today. They’re all grades I can live with :D
Unfortunately, the amount by which my work in PHYS 106 last semester was misgraded was not enough to change my letter grade for the class. :(
In other news, my ex claims that she is not, in fact, actually engaged to the guy she told us we should commit her if we ever got back together with; rather, she’s Facebook-engaged to him, while remaining “just friends” *cough* in order to discourage a creep who’s hitting on her persistently at AA meetings. *facepalm*
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
John:
I have to admit I’m not good with apostrophes’ :) sometimes. I’m also bad at punctuation within (and without) parenthesis.
Patricia, OM:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Josh – As a non-birther I’m sitting on the park bench wringing my hands and drinking wine over the impending Darkling. Come sit by me, we can knit, drink, and Oh Dear together. There will be three of us, because I am beside myself with worry. (It’s silly of me to worry without cause, but birth is cause enough. Worry.)
Everyone else is welcome as well to join in, if you don’t knit or drink I have a huge stash of Walnettos to share.
Worrying blather…
Ichthyic:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
news.google.com is an aggregator like drudge
I finally gave up on google news as an aggregator when the top news story a few days back was what Obama planned to eat for dinner while preparing for the 3rd debate.
I have found that similar things have been happening to google news over the last few months. It seems to have gone way downhill to the point where all I get as headlines are complete fucking trivia.
I have to go to Reuters or online newspapers directly to search for relevant real news, then go to places that vet the news to figure out what’s the spin that the online newspapers are using that day.
Is it just me, or is actually GETTING real news becoming a chore on the internet?
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Patricia:
I’d love to join.
I imagine most of us are anxiously awaiting the arrival of DarkInfant (though Audley *probably* has us beat there).
erikthebassist:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Ughhh, so after that meeting yesterday that I talked about in the previous thread, I absolutely stuck my foot in my fucking mouth today.
One of the ways we deal with stress is the mute button. Everyone does it, we hit that sucker and spew invective at the users who call in. You wouldn’t believe how combative these people can be. It amazes me that they call in because their PC is borked, and then want to either argue with us, or complain to us, like we had something to do with borking it.
We get nasty… We say things with that mute button pressed we would never say to their face, and so I hit the mute button today with a caller who was exceptionally obnoxious. Every time I asked her to do something she ignored me and did something else. She was combative, argumentative and doing her best to make the whole experience unpleasant for both of us.
At one point she sniped at me pretty hard and I hit the mute button and said “don’t get snippy with me little girl“… and it was loud. It was later in the day so there were only about 4 of us left on the phones, I know everyone heard it.
As soon as I said it, my heart sank and I felt sick.
I’m fucking mortified. How in the hell do I shake myself of this ingrained crap that makes me say shit like that in the heat of the moment? Fuck fuck fuck fuck, I just want to crawl in a hole and die.
I don’t have the slightest clue how to recover from this. I think I might need counseling to get to the bottom of it and figure out why something like that would even be a thought in my head much less become words that escape my lips.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Ichthyic:
Any recommendations on good sites for that?
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
erik:
Hugs.
Dude, I’m sorry.
I wish I had more to offer.
Ichthyic:
October 24th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Any recommendations on good sites for that?
frankly, no. I use customizable aggregators (like Pulse) to search for news items, then go look at the sources for the news items, then I typically use blogs, like Pharyngula, where interesting news gets vetted by dozens of people with different opinions.
There are dozens I use though. Seems the best way, really, as someone typically has figured out what the reality is for any given bit of news.
I used to use places like factcheck, but I’ve noted they are now rather unreliable, mostly because they have been forced into “fair and balanced” mode.
The skeptic in me remains unconvinced that at any point in time, I have a real good sense of what is really going on in the world, but it’s the best system I have come up with so far.
let me know if you stumble on something better?
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Tony have a seat, let the hand wringing, knitting and drinking begin.
Erikthebassist – Stick a fork in you, you’re done. The fact that you are fucking mortified says you get it. This little girl bets you never do it again.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Thanks Tony, I guess I’m really starting to come to terms with my privilege, and having to take a hard look at myself. I have a lot of work to do. I’ll take the hugs.
Menyambal --- Sambal's Little Helper:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:04 am
I made my first attempt at making coleslaw today. I got it ‘way too coarse, but I know what to do next time. Making the dressing brought back memories of watching my mom make hers, so I’ll add some vinegar and some honey to the mix. I’ll also try to lock the cat out of the kitchen—I don’t know what she was after, but she damn near got slawtered.
Speaking of old memories, I realized why it creeps me out to pus away a fluffy cat when doing dishes in hot water. I used to have to pluck chickens after dipping them in boiling water, and the feel of hot, wet fluff is a trigger for me. (If I ever have to clean another chicken, I’m going to inflate the skin with a bike pump, peel it back to filet off the white meat, then cut off the legs and thighs and forget the rest. No skin, no giblets, no plucking, no gutting, no trauma.)
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 am
erikthebassist, my advice to you is to employ that to which I refer as ‘bureaucratic mode’.
(When on the job, at least)
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:11 am
I hope you’re right Patricia, but its certainly a wake up call that I’m still a work in progress when it comes to shirking the patriarchy.
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:16 am
erikthebassist, you may wish to look up to what ‘shirking’ refers &msash; that is, the evasion of a duty.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:20 am
JM, I’m not worried about my job, that isn’t the kind of thing that gets one fired, and in this environment probably won’t cost me anything at all (and it should) I am worried about where it came from and how I exorcise that crap from my mind though.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 am
@39
JM, exactly what I meant, because propping up the status quo of the patriarchy can almost seem like a duty, a responsibility, when you consider the peer pressure often encountered by those who are trying to fight it.
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Erik – You’re OK. Realization is the biggest step.
I work in a veterans office which is so full of hard core agony. We are all raw. You don’t work there, so give yourself nine stitches of ease.
You caught it. Yer good. Now carry on. :)
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 12:31 am
erikthebassist
Good for you.
As a recovering racist/sexist/ableist/religionist, when I knee-jerk lash out at some
oneasshole, I usually go withThat Which They Fear Most.
call a homophobe a “closeted gay”
call a misogynist a “girl”
call a racist as “covering his genetic history”
etc.
This shit is still so often the first thing in my brain.
I usually manage to (mostly) not say or type it out loud.
So, yay for baby steps.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:32 am
I should rephrase, as a white man who speaks out against the patriarchy, I’m subject to being called a mangina, a white knight, and all sorts of other insults designed to make me feel as if standing up for any one else’s rights is a derelict act. In the eyes of those who seek to preserve their power base, I am doing nothing short of shirking my responsibilities, as fucked up as that is.
Jadehawk:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:39 am
LOL. the drudge report is a fucking lies-aggregator with headlines that often completely misrepresent the articles linked to:
“Biden credits stimulus for fire station — funded under Bush.”
“ENEMIES LIST: WHITE HOUSE PLOTS LIMBAUGH COVERAGE”
“HILL REPUBLICAN: STIMULUS GIVES CASH TO ILLEGALS”
“Iran Nuke ‘This Year’…”
“Obama Inaugural Could Bankrupt DC”
et cetera ad nauseam (especialy on the topic of climate change)
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:39 am
Thanks for the support folks, but really, I’m going to continue to feel horrible about it for a while, as I should.
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Oh yes, Patricia. And we can drink the mint juleps Stedman totally didn’t actually have.
I remembered to bring my knitting on a day/biz trip to NY today and went like a mofo on the plane and in the airport. Don’t tell Audley—-it’s the blanket I’m only half-done with. Ah well; every mother gets enough receiving blankets. This one will be big enough for DF to use for years. That’s what I’m tellin’ myself. Ayuh.
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:49 am
Don’t be so hard on yourself Erik. We all slip. I sure do. Recognizing it and realizing there’s a time and a place (out of earshot) is a big thing. But I fail a lot.
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 am
Wow. I’ve never heard the term mangina.
Wow.
Is this the same as “pussy whipped”? Because I’m floundering here. My dear departed husband got called that in the 1980′s when I answered NO to a question he got asked about me by another man.
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:50 am
erikthebassist, since my kindness is not obvious to a normal person, my response to you is in the Thunderdome.
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Oh, and nice ego-booster tonight. Friend I haven’t seen for four years (and two years before heart attack, still beefy porky SpokesGay) and I went to dinner.
“How much weight have you lost!?”
“I can’t believe you’re in your late 30s. . you don’t look like you could be. You look better than I’ve ever seen you.”
I said, “Maybe I’m born with it. . .but maybe it’s Maybelline.”
Thank you, quality make-up from Mac that goes on the skin un-detectable and takes you from on-camera interview to night on the town, no fuss, no muss! LOL.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:56 am
Good morning
Patricia
Hugs for therapy and being Audley-worried.
I guess as a former borther I’m just glad it isn’t me ;)
Ichthyic
Thank you for your recommendations.
I’m not looking for a replacement of the laptop, I just don’t want to tow it to college every day (it may be personal taste but I find that a mass of people sitting behind a laptop screen really kills any class-room setting. And ince I know myself I also don’t want to be tempered to write on Pharyngula instead ;). Ican work on a computer in the library as well.
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Erik – Pffft – you have felt horrible enough. You’re good. You got it. Now come sit with me and Josh.
Josh – Oh hell, I am so Oh Dearing. The whole birth thing scares me to death! So Let’s sit together and knit. (and drink) Just mailed off another eggplant hat to Audley’s mister. They should be so cute together. You got me beat with a blanket!
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 am
I’ll entwine my knots with you any time, Patricia, Continental or English-style. I don’t have you beat, though. My feckin’ blanket’s not done and you’ve already posted a hat!
I’m sure Audley will be fine. Got an email update earlier that she got sent back home because way slow labor, and kinda painful, but Dr.’s advice was to put her feet up and have some wine, which she was most pleased about!
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Chigau, interesting how you couched that, as recovering from these perspectives.
I was raised by mom and sister, I’ve always thought women should have equal rights.
The first person to give me a job as a professional musician was black, and I’ve always thought that black people should have equal rights.
I have gay friends and have always thought gay people should have equal rights.
But this elevator gate / atheism + schism has taken all of that to a whole different and deeper level for me.
It’s easy to say I believe in equal rights, it’s much harder to actually surrender my privilege at every opportunity so these equal rights ideals have some chance at becoming a reality.
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 am
Giliell – Thank you. I’m not sure what vomiting during therapy means.
My therapist called today to see if I am OK, so that is good. This death stuff is so hard. Thanks. Thanks for the hugs.
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Josh – Well hell, let’s all have some wine with Audley! Sounds good to me. *smirk*
Patricia, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:18 am
erik – for fucks sake, you’re fine. You got it.
I’m going to bed. Goodnight sweethearts.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Goodnight Patricia =) and thank you, I do feel better now.
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 1:21 am
erik #55
It gets easier all the time.
Every time a Them™ (women, boss, acquaintance) becomes We™ (mom, co-worker, friend), the Walls are weakened.
and We go from there.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:22 am
Patricia
Hmm, don’t have to deal with your stuff, but with my stuff I know that really the moment it got real bad was also the moment I started to get better, when I was down at the root of the problem and could work my way up from there.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:13 am
I am weak. I miss the Lounge.
Dark Infant here yet? No?
I’ll just sit in the corner here and wait.
crowepps:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:17 am
Hmmm – maybe DarkSpawn is holding out for Halloween?
rq:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:26 am
I hope DarkSpawn arrives soon and safely. I don’t know how to knit, but maybe I can crochet on the bench with the rest of you knitters.
I can echo Giliell in saying that I’m just glad it’s not me this time; giving birth terrifies me, even though it’s been three safe and healthy times. *shudder*
In the meanwhile, may Audley enjoy her wine!
ednaz:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:44 am
I don’t know how to knit or crochet, so I will just wring my hands.
It’s good to read you, Beatrice. : )
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:55 am
Okay, Audley is being admitted to the hospital again. Keep those tentacles crossed. Will let you all know what’s happening as I find out.
Maureen Brian:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:57 am
broboxley OT,
You really do need to be Very Firmly Thumped.
Dr Maddow – yes, that’s her – is primarily a political scientist. She has the DPhil from Oxford if proof were needed. The fact that she’s a world-class communicator and funny – oh! noes! – is just the cherry in one of her cocktails.
I’m not sure what they taught you at kindergarten but ‘making fun of something’ is not the same as ‘making something up’ despite the similarity in the phrases.
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 3:03 am
Caine
Thanks.
—-
DarkFetus
get this done, eh.
theophontes (坏蛋):
October 25th, 2012 at 3:03 am
@ Caine
I have been chewing on all the pencils in my office.
Come on Darkfetus!
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:05 am
Audley writes that she’s in hospital now, getting ready to deliver, I presume.
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:05 am
Oh snap, Caine.
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 3:07 am
don’t care
both of you, keep it up
(and Mr.Dark)
Menyambal --- Sambal's Little Helper:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:08 am
Caine and Josh, thanks.
Rachel Maddow is a great communicator, witty, erudite and so much more. She presents facts, shows her sources and backs them up. Who the hell can think she is making stuff up?
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:08 am
on this or another recent thread, someone rhetorically asked how it is that women could ever vote republican, given what the GoP’s current platform is.
Well, I wish I could ask the person from Nevada who is featured in this article:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gEz7DM2dmYte9zeT5DhDpdnJWQEw?docId=CNG.3793d4e5cdb4c22580dc6d86ea1ac7fc.4c1
*shakes head sadly*
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:12 am
…Brethauer will look back on her very first vote in 10 years, and realize what a complete ass she was to vote directly against her own best interests.
I know, because the same thing happened to me after I voted for Ronald Reagan as my first opportunity to vote.
*shakes head sadly, again, thinking about it*
sure shot myself in the foot there.
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:13 am
Theophontes:
I’m with you, man. That little gal really needs to leave the building of Audley already.
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:15 am
Josh:
I’ve been leaving my e-mail running on my little netbook at night. Christ, she got me just as I was falling asleep. Ah, the whims of a new arrival. :D
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 am
Pharyngula time is 3:20 AM October 25.
What timezone is Audley in?
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:19 am
I know, Caine. I’m still up cuz I’m decompressing from madcap work and not going into the office tomorrow cuz gonna work all weekend. Figured if I was up I might as well be one of the carrier pigeons:)
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:20 am
thanks for the updates
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:20 am
It’s 3:20 a.m., US Eastern time, where Audley is.
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:21 am
Oh, shit. 4:20 a.m. How did that happen??
rq:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:26 am
All possible tentacles and other loose and non-loose appendages are crossed.
theophontes (坏蛋):
October 25th, 2012 at 3:38 am
@ Josh
Did you ever get the snailmail I sent you (posted about a month ago)?
I made a large loaf of sourdough yesterday. Mixed white, wholewheat and maseca (¡Para hacer Tamales!) together with starter, a few drops of vinegar, salt and a large dollop of olive oil. I left it as a very soft and fluffy mix with a coat of flour and sesamie seeds and bunged it in a Dutch oven at 260 C. My God (by which I am obviously refering to Phoenicia, PBUH) but it’s delicious!
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Oh lord, Theo, did I forget to tell you I got the package? Stupid me! I did, I did, and thank you! I even showed it to my overnight house guest. So sorry that I’ve been remiss; work travel has been a nightmare but that’s no excuse to slack off.
Phoenicia has been in a dormant state in my fridge. Now that it’s fall she shall rise again!
SQB:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:11 am
Godspeed YouBlack EmperorDark Fetus!SQB:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Meanwhile, here’s a little light entertainment for you in the form of Die Antwoord’s latest, Fatty Boom Boom.
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:24 am
SQB, hm.
(Got any heavy entertainment?)
SQB:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:27 am
Yes, I do.
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:36 am
SQB, huh. Guess you do.
Thanks for the education.
(I prefer Die Antwoord FWIW)
theophontes (坏蛋):
October 25th, 2012 at 4:40 am
Josh, you are Ebil!
@ SQB
Die Antwoord is bakgat!
Gen, Uppity Ingrate.:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:49 am
Die Antwoord. Sho. Wat kan ek sê?
Kind of in two minds. They are really, really brilliant satirists and it’s true that blackface isn’t a thing here – but don’t tell me that means they don’t know what it is or why/how it’s offensive, especially in the context of a song/video commenting on the sell-out of american rap/music scene.
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:57 am
As I wrote, educational.
(Been reading on them and on Zef)
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:03 am
*Keeping all appendages crossed for the safe delivery of the Darkling*
Please may I join the yarn wranglers on the porch? I’m just finishing a crocheted blanket for Number 5 Grandchild, due very, very soon. Birth is scary. Even though I’ve survived it several times and have absolutely no chance of ever having to go through it again, I still get on tenterhooks (and have nightmares) when someone else is going through it.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:23 am
HI there
So, let’s hopt the DF hurries up in her attempts to become the DI
Hi beatrice
Missed you, too!
+++
Ha!
Snatched the cool topic for my presentation and paper. Those kids just don’t know what the really interesting topics are yet.
birgerjohansson:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Kang and Kodos: (looks at image of human infant, drools)
.
“Top Obama Aide Brushes Off American Teen Killed In Drone Strike.
Robert Gibbs Says Anwar al-Awlaki’s Son, Killed By Drone Strike, Needs ‘Far More Responsible Father’” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/robert-gibbs-anwar-al-awlaki_n_2012438.html
“Pennsylvania Bill Includes Provision Requiring Women To Prove They Were Raped” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/pennsylvania-welfare-benefits-rape_n_2012417.html
Shady bank deals: “Dimon Whining” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-lux/dimon-whining_b_2009082.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Eternal War: “Meet the New Consensus, Same as the Old” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-peron/perpetual-war_b_2013007.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
“Indispensable 20th Century Italian Sci-Fi” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/electric-literature/indispensable-20th-centur_b_2011194.html
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Just heard from Audley, she’s doing well, all is going smoothly, she’s had her epidural, now they’re just waiting.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Thanx for the update.
Good to hear that she has her epidural. From what she told she’s in good care and all we can do now is to run pathways into a carpet like a 1950′s father outside the delivery ward.
John Morales:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Giliell,
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:21 am
That was an unseasonably warm night. 66 degrees F at the moment.
carlie:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby
opposablethumbs:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Thank you for the updates, Caine!
All tentacles crossed.
Just found out in the last hour that work is going to be insane for a few weeks, so I’ll probably miss lots of things (but will maintain crossed tentacles for Audley, for DF/DI, and for all Horders for whom it is meet that tentacles be crossed)
PS go you for your presentation and paper plans, Giliell :) – having some small idea what an absolute nightmare it’s been for you to get to this, it’s wonderful to see you feeling and being so positive about it – that merits champagne and confetti in itself!
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:56 am
baby baby baby baby baby baby baby badger baby baby baby baby baby baby
rq:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Can I join in on the ‘baby’ chorus (authorized or unauthorized)?
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:02 am
*joins cheers to bring baby to the world*
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Thanks for the update, Caine! Epidurals are wonderful things.
*Joins in cries of encouragement*
Louis:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
I DEMAND BABY!!!!!
Louis
Louis:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Also:
CAINE!!!!! {Tacklepouncehugsasappropriate}
Louis
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Louis:
Hallo Sweetstuff. How ya doing?
lexie:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Hi Beatrice, glad to see you’re back I’ve missed reading your stuff.
Caine, glad to hear Audley is doing ok.
w00dview:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Menyambal@79:
Because in today’s . True objective journalism just ignores or even accepts at face value propaganda that is spewed by corporations or politicians, don’t ya know.
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Yay for Audley and the darkinfant about to enter the world! (Jittering wildly about all the things that can go wrong in a delivery. But they usually don’t.)
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
You guys know you can’t eat this baby right?
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Rev. BigDumbChimp,
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
*whistles innocently*
SQB:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Great. Now I’ve got that Justin Bieber tune stuck in my head.
SQB:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:55 am
And I only noticed the badger after boinking on the ‘talk’ button.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Sigh, #73 #67
Fact
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/07/30/1207728109.abstract
Maddow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebSId76bd2Y
her spin “Earthquakes never happen there”
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000d78i#summary
by a geologist
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/geologist-says-fault-line-not-fracking-to-blame-for-east-texas-earthquakes
conclusion Maddow is an entertainer who spins the story like Mathews Howard Stern O’Reilly
AJ Milne:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
What I love about Google News is when news sources pop up in the results that are just hilariously flaky…
For reasons unknown, at one point these stories from some ‘ZOMG Aliens Are Probing Us!’ type site kept popping up on my front page. Went on for a couple days… So reading down I’d get stories about the state of the European economy, some entertainment fluff, something on American presidential polls, and then some headline about an object that hovered over a cornfield and emitted noises before speeding off, or how the military is still denying that, well, obviously, there really are radio signals being beamed down from ET…
It amused me, mind, the mix of the mundane and the sci fi. It’s like: Orson Welles is alive and well and working at Google.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Damnation, I can’t keep my eyes open. It’s just past midnight and the latest Hordeling hasn’t yet made an appearance. I simply cannot stay awake much longer but I don’t want to miss the event. Waaaaaahhhh! *pouts*
What’s a Justin Bieber tune?
SC (Salty Current), OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:15 am
This is very exciting.
Gregory Greenwood:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I would like to add my encouragement to Audley. All appendages remain crossed.
Tigger_the_Wing @ 119;
You really are better off not knowing. This is one of those instances were ignorance truly is bliss…
SQB:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:20 am
baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby
AJ Milne:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:24 am
It’s a Very Bad Thing.
I’m assuming from your innocence you don’t know what a Justin Bieber is, then, either.
Also a Very Bad Thing.
Speaking of…
(Clears throat, reads from speech…)
Speaking on behalf of the Canadian people, I would hereby like to apologize to the world for the release of the Justin Bieber into your midst.
It was an inexcusable error, and one which we–along now with of all Earth’s people–now know to our profound regret can never be undone.
In our defense, it was felt that the security protocols at our brand new level V earworm containment and research facility were adequate…
We now realize how naive we were. And how proud.
We were proud. And we were curious. And we thought to ourselves, it has never been done. So could it be?
You’d think we’ve have learned by now. After the horrors of the Celine Dion project, the fallout from the Bryan Adams debacle–even after the first, halting, tentative steps that led to Paul Anka–we should have known…
But all of it, dreadful as it was, seems only to have been prologue. We were building to this, heedless of the misery we had wrought, only asking ourselves: can we make something more terrifyingly annoying, still? Is it possible? Do acoustics and physics permit it?
We now know that it is, and that they do. And the cost of this knowledge, all the world now knows.
Thank you, and good night. And if it is any consolation to the rest of you, you should now know that, as propitiation for our disastrous judgement in this matter, I and all the research team will, shortly, be boarding a bus to a secure facility, where we shall end our lives in suitable fashion: listening to William Shatner pretend to sing until our brains ooze out our ear canals.
And, again, our apologies.
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:25 am
A facebook post from my brother this morning. He works as a financial planner, an industry full of right wing tax haters.
rq:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I also do not know what a Justin Bieber tune is (wasn’t aware that what he was producing counts as ‘tune’). Once I saw the badger among the babies, I’ve been singing ‘Mushroom! Mushroom!’ to myself all afternoon.
Also, I have never heard William Shatner sing. Patrick Stewart, on the other hand… ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3rFNbSKpEE )
How’s that baby coming along?
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:39 am
rq:
No further news yet. I’d about kill to get some sleep, I hope she enters the world soon.
theophontes (坏蛋):
October 25th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I am starting to see babies everywhere now: Link to SQB’s video’s screengrab.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Gimme a ‘B’!
Gimme a ‘Y’!
Gimme an ‘A’!
Gimme a ‘B’!
What’s that spell?!?!
Oh.
Nevermind.
Damn spell check doesn’t work for cheers.
After all that acid rain we sent up to Canada, you give us Bieber? That is not a good bargain. The US got rooked.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:53 am
When my SiL (Wife’s Brother’s Wife) was pregnant, they knew it would be (plumbing-wise) a girl. They decided on the name ‘Abigail’ and started calling her Abby long before she was born. For the baby shower, Wife thought it would be fun to get some ribbon with ‘Abby’ printed on it. So she went to the craft store that does printed ribbons and asked for a hundred feet of ribbon with A-B-B-Y on it.
The woman at the craft store looked down her nose at Wife and said, in a voice dripping with condescension and scorn, “It is spelled B-A-B-Y.”
Wife looked at her and said, “Only if her name is going to be Babigail. Good bye.” She left and went elsewhere for the ribbon.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Sorry for the ignorance, but what is so terrible about the kid? He gets lots of hate, but I don’t really distinguish between his “this song will erase itself from your memory in five seconds” and all the others of that kind.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:00 am
News sites that are useful
http://www.montrealgazette.com/index.html Que Oriented but national and international
http://www.aljazeera.com/ good for all news except when discussing Israel
where Israel continously shoots itself in the foot
http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html
Lebanon, Syria news
http://www.naharnet.com/
Turkey
http://www.turkishweekly.net/
Europe
http://www.afp.com/en
Japan
http://english.kyodonews.jp/
Asia
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/home.htm
http://www.hindustantimes.com/
Africa
http://news.iafrica.com/
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:25 am
forgot about the lots of links rule, so let me break it up.
The next few posts are news sources
News sites that are useful
http://www.montrealgazette.com/index.html Que Oriented but national and international
http://www.aljazeera.com/ good for all news except when discussing Israel
where Israel continously shoots itself in the foot
http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Middle East and Europe
Lebanon, Syria news
http://www.naharnet.com/
Turkey
http://www.turkishweekly.net/
Europe
http://www.afp.com/en
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Japan and China
Japan
http://english.kyodonews.jp/
Asia
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/home.htm
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:27 am
India and Africa
http://www.hindustantimes.com/
Africa
http://news.iafrica.com/
opposablethumbs:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Beatrice, I’m not here right now but just wanted to note how much you are rocking on the Rebecca thread. That is all.
(I will keep sneaking a peek from time to time, of course, seeing as how it may be somebody’s birthday today :-D)
blf:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Hilarious: The world’s worst typos — in pictures.
───────────────────────────────────
Add some MUSHROOMS! and cheese and it’ll be O—— Ahhhhh… Hum, yes, there is a problem. Blasted thing hasn’t shown up yet. Pepper might fix it, though. A really Biiiigggg Snnnnneeeeeeezeee…
(This has been the attempt at a
tastytasteless joke for the moment. We now return you to the normal randomised babblings…)───────────────────────────────────
Didn’t see this in time. Unless the mildly deranged penguin can borrow or sneak into the TARDIS without the extremely angry mouse noticing, you’re probably safe. Now.
The mildly deranged penguin wants to know what kind of goat. The vintage matters. The best goat’s cheese is, apparently, from the blue-fur goats which gaze on the lowland tagliatelle during winter before climbing into the Western Atlantian Alps searching for subterrestrial South-facing tree calamari during the brief summer, finely chopped by clever-wielding eels the year after a noble rot, then left to sun-dry before being packed away for fermenting for several decades.
I’m told a true connoisseur can tell which eel chopped up the goat, and whether or not it cheated by using a samurai sword.
otrame:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Beatrice,
He is just the latest attempt to get the kids to listen to “something decent”. It only works on preteens and very young teenagers. These acts are always the subject of ridicule. Dick Clarke made a lot of money pushing this sort of thing. AFAIAC Beiber’s just the latest.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:36 am
*Looks like the Pullet Patrol™ is putting the finishing touches on a box of Pullet Plushies™ for the DarkInfant™*
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Caine, go ahead and take a break. I can update people if anything happens.
birgerjohansson:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:45 am
“Facing Prison for Protesting Stop-and-Frisk” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zeeshan-aleem/on-facing-a-year-in-priso_b_2013542.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
— — — — — — — — — —
From Slate: “It Stands to Reason, Skeptics Can Be Sexist Too” http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/10/sexism_in_the_skeptic_community_i_spoke_out_then_came_the_rape_threats.html
— — — — — —
Cancer research:
Better prognosis for early blast clearance in leukemia http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-10-prognosis-early-blast-clearance-leukemia.html
Researchers uncover new target for cancer research http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-10-uncover-cancer.html
Genome analysis of pancreas tumours reveals new pathway http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-10-genome-analysis-pancreas-tumors-reveals.html
Nutmeg:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:45 am
*tentacles crossed for Audley*
Baby!
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:46 am
read and fear for our future
birgerjohansson:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Escaping the Womb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvpbzRf99-8
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Sitting with tentacles crossed for Audley.
Can I join the knitting bench?
Rey Fox:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:51 am
maybebabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybaby
carlie:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:56 am
baby
baby
babies
Aratina Cage:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:59 am
@Ichthyic
It’s bad alright. I get sick of Google News sending me links to right-wing publications. I’ll have to check out Pulse.
@broboxley
Yes, Maddow is just like Bill O’Reilly! *eyeroll* (Or were you being sarcastic? Can’t tell, sorry.)
And BABY!
mythbri:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Ugh. I keep refreshing every five minutes just in case there’s any news about DarkFetus—>DarkInfant and Audley.
My sister-in-law had the first grandchild on both (all – blended family) sides in June. She said that there was no way she was even going to attempt delivery without an epidural. Unfortunately, her epidural failed. Fortunately, she was only in hard labor for five hours, and she and the resulting CUTE LITTLE NIECE OMG SO CUTE is doing great.
I’ll just keep refreshing.
And refreshing.
carlie:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:04 am
mythbri – it could still be upwards of 24 hours, you know. ;)
blf:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:07 am
So the plan to delay delivery until Teh Dark One is a teenager is still on?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:08 am
True. For her first child, my sister was in labor for over twenty four hours.
It is so hard to predict these things.
mythbri:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:09 am
On the subject of Rachel Maddow, she is absolutely a fantastic communicator, seemingly genuinely nice and incredibly professional. She has only improved MSNBC.
I recently listened to the audio version of her book Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power. She has a lot of interesting history and perspective. I loved (in the sense that I was absolutely terrified by) the section about nuclear whoopsies, and she has many good points about the societal consequences of going to war a deterrent for the U.S. at large. “We are a nation that has become at peace with being at war,” she says (or perhaps quotes – I’m not sure).
However, I found that the impression she gives of U.S. service members being upstanding, noble, hard-working and most-capable-people-for-the-job very troubling in comparison to the hard look she takes at the military industrial complex and private military contractors. She goes into great detail about the contractors in Bosnia who bought young girls for sexual gratification, about how they were committing fraud against the U.S. Government AND over-charging them. But she never seems to acknowledge that the members of U.S. armed forces – not just contractors – are capable of bad things without consequences, including offenses committed against their fellow service members.
All in all, though, it was a great book. Maddow reads it very well and very expressively, for those of you who might be interested in the audio version. And I loved how she dedicated it to Dick Cheney with the explanation “Please please please let me interview you.”
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I hope Audley is not reading this.
babybabybabybabybabybabybaby
Sarahface, who is trying to break the lurking habit:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Catching up on the thread, I was so worried that I’d missed the arrival of the new Hordeling… But I haven’t! I just have to hope that if she doesn’t arrive in the next 7 or so hours, she holds on till I can read again. (Maybe not, because that’s a pretty long time – full day of lectures/labs tomorrow.)
–
Babybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybaby.
(Consider it my contribution to the chant.)
And now, I must get on with writing my essay.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Rev BDC #143 I’m not really sure but do you think Jordan sounds bitter?
Louis:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Caine,
Not terrible thanks, and you?
I’m up to my eyeballs in stuff here atm. Fun though!
Louis
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Thanks to Caine and Josh for the updates on DarkFetus.
****
A voodoo curse upon whomever got that damned Justin Beiber song stuck in my head.
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Tony, sing Private Dancer at the top of your lungs. Guaranteed to kill any earwigs in your head.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:48 am
opposablethumbs,
Oh, thanks.
One day, I’m going to be able to take a compliment without thinking “You must have confused me with someone else”.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 25th, 2012 at 10:59 am
If you go down in the lounge today you’re sure of a big surprise
If you go down in the lounge today you’d better go in disguise
For every squid that ever there was gather there for certain
Because today’s the day the Darkhearts have their baaaaaaby!
Hopefully.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
opposablethumbs
Thanks. This afternoon I was sitting in the library thinking “wow, last year this time I turned off the radio whenever they mentioned to road past the university in the traffic news”, so I guess this really counts as progress.
And I think I have to bother pelamun, although I have no idea what his knowledge in sociolinguistics is. Any other sociolinguists here?
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:02 am
FossilFishy, please please tell me that the tune to that is Tim Minchin’s “Bears Don’t Dig On Dancing” because that is what I read it to.
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Colin Powell endorsed Obama this morning. More details below, but broboxley beware, the details come from The Rachel Maddow Blog, source of entertainment, not news. Video of Powell’s endorsement is also available at the link.
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Colin Powell did not stop at endorsing Obama today, he went on to diss Romney with lots of detail.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Blame lexie, I interpreted her as “I miss hearing you whinge and complain about stuff” ;)
I was at a job interview yesterday. The man said that he’d probably tell me that I got the job if this were the last day of interviews. Unfortunately, it was only the end of the fourth day out of twelve. 350 people in total. And then I couldn’t sleep and got upset because I convinced myself that he was actually mocking me, because I don’t feel I did well at all. Angry hiss at my stupid paranoid brain.
Matt Penfold:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Why do people call Romney the Governor, when he is no longer is ?
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:14 am
We’ve discussed the reprehensible remarks made by Richard Mourdock, and the fact that Romney endorses Mourdock.
Janine’s post.
My post.
Matt Penfold’s post.
My post.
There were more comments, but we do have a link-per-post limit.
The dunderheaded Republican, Richard Mourdock, is not going to get away with letting his remarks slide out of the news cycle. Even Jay Leno was on the case when he interviewed Obama on “The Tonight Show.” I liked the tie-in to the Supreme court.
cicely:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
From The Onion: Latest Study Finds Cancer Cells Now Cruelly Mocking Researchers
(by way of In the Pipeline).
-
Josh!
*pouncehugs*
-
Caine!
*pouncehugs&chocolate
-
Ooooh! Walnettos!
*sitting on bench between Patricias*
-
It’s not just you.
-
Practice, practice, practice.
And maybe some public grovelling. Nothing like a humiliating memory to discourage repitition. You’ve made a good start, here.
-
Beatrice!
*hugs*
-
Appreciation for DarkChild Updates.
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A well-timed epidural is a thing of joy and beauty forever.
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Oh, but we can.
We just won’t.
-
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Video of Obama addressing the Mourdock comments is available here. There’s more to what the President said that what I posted.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/25/14695353-mourdocks-mess-not-just-a-one-day-story
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:27 am
From The Onion: Latest Study Finds Cancer Cells Now Cruelly Mocking Researchers
The Onion is so behind the times. Anyone who’s ever worked with a HeLa cell can tell you that cancer cells have been flipping us the pseudopod for decades.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Thanks Lynna for the maddow link but I prefer to get my CBS news from CBS http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133837n&tag=mg;cbsthismorning
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:29 am
In his official biography, Mourdock lists his religion as “Evangelical Christian.” No surprise.
For those that may have missed it in the previous chapter of the [Lounge], here is Mourdock’s notpology:
So, yeah, horrible that you got raped and all. God would never order that done, and neither would I, the great interpreter of God, Richard Mourdock.
But, yeah, God would order that you get pregnant via rape. The pregnancy is the good part. We, the Mourdockian government will force you to bear the baby to term.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Except that God intends pregnancy through rape…ergo he is a rapist. It’s like saying God intends genocide via atomic bombing, but denying that God wants atomic bombing.
Matt Penfold:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I would still like a theologian, sopmisticated or otherwise, to explain to me how a woman getting pregnant because she was raped can be part of God’s plan, but her getting a termination in such a situation cannot.
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Here is a 7:35 minute segment in which Maddow presented an overview of the dramatic backward slide on abortion access. There may be too many facts, all presented within a broader context, for broboxley, and not enough entertainment. But, hey, you can’t always get what you want.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#49220085
The segment is from September 28, 2012. There are a lot more available on the same site. Choose “Reproductive rights” in the “Features” menu.
The “Features” menu also offers Maddow’s excellent coverage of Afhanistan and of Uganda, as well as many other new-rich features.
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Oh, shit, I see I spelled Afghanistan incorrectly in my previous post. Sigh.
DarkFetus is coming into an imperfect world.
Matt Penfold:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Well if she stays in until she is a teen, then maybe we can get everyone spelling Afghanistan correctly.
Actually, what a ghastly thought, giving birth to a teenager. Most parents need 13 years to get used to the idea of being parent to a teen.
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Ever wanted to have The Silence at the tips of your fingers? Alright, you got me, on your nails.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@Janine
For less effort you can get SLenderman
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
getting strange out there
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/NYC-officer-arrested-in-ghoulish-kidnap-plot-3981209.php
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Glad that I do not have a Twitter account.
Not even a direct death threat is enough to suspend an account.
This was the tweet.
As long as it is not specific, please, feel free to threaten as many people as you want.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
@Janine
Note that that if you get enough people giving you those threats and block them too much Twitter will nix you for “aggressive blocking”
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
This twitter thing sounds less and less appealing.
—
Baby?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Aggressive blocking?
Whiskey tango foxtrot!
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
No updates yet.
michaeld:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I’m stressing about getting my cat to the vet by taxis today *stress stress stress*.
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Darkfetus is on the planet! Received from Mr. Darkheart:
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Whoo-hook!!! Hello World, DarkInfant!
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Whoo-hoo!!! Hello World, DarkInfant!
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
The DarkDaughter Watch is over.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
YAAAAAY!
Congratulations Darkhearts! Welcome DarkInfant!
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Yay!!!
Congrats to Audley and Mr!
SC (Salty Current), OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Hooray!
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@Janine
Yeah let me go to Twitter to find the leak.
http://comedychat.co.uk/2012/09/05/comedians-using-their-fans-for-co-ordinated-safety-in-numbers-bullying/
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Aggressive blocking? Audley, let the DarkFetus through! Stop blocking her and let her ou . . . .
Oh.
Twitter.
[Emily LaTella voice]Nevermind.[/voice]
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Kermie arms!!!!!!!!! Yayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!
SC (Salty Current), OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
The ocean’s gonna win.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Twitter’s TOS are laughable. They will let people be bullied into suicide and then punish people for trying to use their service while avoiding the bullying.
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DarkBabby
YAAAAAAAAY!!!
cicely:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
And the crowd goes wild!!!
*confetti&fireworks&bacon&booze&dancingkittehs*
G’night, Caine!
:)
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Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Yesssssssssss!!!
Darkbaby!
Hooray!!!!!!
*plopp*
Champagne!!!!
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Spokesgay peers into DarkFetus’ bassinette:
“He has his father’s eyes.”
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
She/her, dammit.
Erülóra Maikalambe:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
DarkInfant!! Yay!!! :D
chigau (棒や石):
October 25th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
OK
Is there anything interesting going on on the rest of FtB?
—–
When can we expect baby pictures?
Richard Austin:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Josh, take those out of her mouth.
mythbri:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@Josh, take those out of her mouth. ;)
YAYYYYYYYYYY FOR WEE BAIRN DARKINFANT!
Congratulations, Audley and Mr.!
Emrysmyrddin:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Glad everyone’s safe and well; conga rats to the DarkFamily :D
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Cicely:
Right back at you! ♥
Geez, I need a nap.
Maureen Brian:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Wheeeee! Congratulations everyone and welcome DarkInfant.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Have a good rest, Caine.
Thanks for staying up to keep us informed.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
We still have some birthday cake left, and the first grog/swill is on the house.
Sarahface, who is trying to break the lurking habit:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Ooooh, yaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy! Conga rats to all involved, good wishes to everyone here, and welcome, little DarkInfant. :) I hope you enjoy your stay on this planet.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
enjoy the new baby, congrats..
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Beatrice:
Oh, I had the easy part. :D I am wandering off to nap, though. Just one more thing for today – packages had better arrive at JAL’s doorstep, then everything will be right with the universe today.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Maureen Brian:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
The new Hordeling shares her birthday not only with my later partner, Terry, but with Georges Bizet, Pablo Picasso and Zadie Smith.
This kid is going to be talented!
Nutmeg:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Yay for DarkBaby! Congrats to Audley and Mr. Darkheart!
Rey Fox:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
BABBY FORMED!
Rey Fox:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Voltaire may have prayed for his enemies to be ridiculous, but I don’t know if that’s really making life any better. We have the rape baby candidate, whose name is “Mourdock”, which couldn’t be a much more evil-sounding name, and we have Akin, who looks like the physical manifestation of Mr. Burns. And they might both be voted into Congress.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
ing @ 174
The entire religion rests on the non-consensual pregnancy of a virgin. Apparently if gawd wants you pregnant, he doesn’t much care how you end up becoming so.
Speaking of pregnancy, yay for Darkfetus!
I’m seriously wondering if some creolurkers are thinking that with this much celebration over a new hordling, it absolutely MUST be the anti-christ.
Did any one check darkfetuses scalp for the signature of the beast?
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
sorry, yay for darkinfant, who is no longer a fetus!
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
DarkInfant has arrived!!!!
Awesome!
opposablethumbs:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Yay DarkInfant!
Conga rats to Audley and Mr. Darkheart! confetti-champagne-streamers-fireworks!!!!!
*\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/**\o/*
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
But! God doesn’t want you to get pregnant if you aren’t married or weren’t raped. That kind of pregnancy happens by accident and has nothing whatsoever to do with God’s wishes (but he still doesn’t want you to abort it).
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Happy ejection. ^.^
Sili:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
BAGEL BAGEL BAGEL BAGEL!
rq:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Congratulations on the safe arrival! I am now breathing freely again.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
::snicker::
::giggle::
This ain’t no toaster oven we’re talking about here :)
Amphiox:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
I’m not all that certain Voltaire cared all that much about making life better. Funnier, maybe, but not necessarily better.
He was, IIRC, a rather famous misanthrope….
ImaginesABeach:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Yay DarkInfant!
for whoever asked about Justin Bieber, above – speaking his name in my house has been almost banned since he made this almost Mourdockian statement to Rolling Stone:
GirlChild, BoyChild, and GirlsBestFriend know that the only acceptable way to refer to him in my home or car is as “the misogynistic asshole.”
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
ImaginesABeach,
Now that’s a reason to disapprove of Bieber. I’m going from “who the fuck cares” to not liking him.
Aratina Cage:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Hooray for Darkinfant! and congrats to the Darkhearts!!
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Yay! Congratulations to the darkcouple and their new darkinfant! I predict the darkfather will soon be introduced to a brand new concept: meconium. It’s green, it’s sticky, it’s sterile! Newborns make lots…
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
*yawn*
I’m as tired as if I were Audley
BTW, although the Dark Infant has missed the little one’s birthday she at least got the little one’s due day :)
michaeld:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Yay dark infant. Yay can doesn’t have ring worm. *relaxes a bit*
Amphiox:
October 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I wouldn’t completely write off Justin Bieber as a lost cause yet.
http://www.celebessence.com/2012/09/27/justin-biebers-wife-of-7-months-avalanna-routh-loses-battle-to-cancer/
In fact, the vibe I got from that interview was that he kind of got an “oh shit I didn’t think about that” moment when the topic of rape came up (hence the “I guess I haven’t been in that position” comment he tacked on at the end), and it might even be the start of a turning point for him to becoming a more empathetic and better informed adult on that particular subject.
Or not. Time will tell I suppose.
But he does belong within an age demographic where in my experience a whole lot of otherwise liberal and decent young people are instinctively and uninformedly anti-choice, and many, many of them do in fact change their minds after gaining some life experience and doing some actual examination of what the anti-choice position actually entails for women’s autonomy.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
ImaginesABeach, that’s a legit reason to dislike Beiber. I would note that I think most of the vitriol comes his way because his appeal is to young girls. That category of entertainment gets more grief than is due, I think.
Disclaimer, I do not like him or his music. Just puttin’ it out there.
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
an age demographic where in my experience a whole lot of otherwise liberal and decent young people are instinctively and uninformedly anti-choice,
I don’t know about this. In my, admittedly anecdotal, experience, a “liberal” man of college age will be a Republican by the time he’s 30. And I advised my niece, who believes that she would never have an abortion no matter what but doesn’t think her choice should be codified into law, to never date a “pro-life” man. A man who wants to make use of your uterus by force will want to make use of your vagina by force too.
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 25th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Oh, I missed the babywatch! YAY AUDLEY AND NEWLY EXPANDED DARKFAMILY! I hope your birth was everything you hoped for!
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Rawnaeris, I heard FossilFishy’s rhyme to this. But that could be because my mom played it on vinyl throughout my childhood. : )
ednaz:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Hooray Hooray Hooray Hooray!
Hooray for The Darkheart Family!!
Hooray Hooray Hooray Hooray!
craftybunny:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Delurking to send my heartiest congratulations to Audley and the Mr, and welcome to the world little DarkInfant!
ednaz:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Huge Thanks to Josh, Janine and Caine for keeping us in the loop. : )
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/10/24/sf-massage-parlor-to-offer-350-face-slaps/
as opposed to massaging a rear? maybe…
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
well played bodyform
response to a man poking fun at their sanitary napkins ad on facebook
AJ Milne:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Congratulations, Audley and family!
Baby anecdote:
Was at this lunch just this last hour with some old friends, kind of company I get together with kinda five times decadely, y’know…
Someone asked about another of our company, not present, she’d known was expecting. I happened to know she’d delivered, last week, and so got to sharing around Facebook photos on phone of said wee one et mère. We at lunch mostly of an age where our first and seconds are some years back now and changing to new schools, so on, some even onto high school, some approaching university, which we’d just been discussing.
It was innocent enough, I guess, the confusion. The new mother wasn’t present, lives on another continent, now. I thought this was understood… This and the fact, from the discussion we’d just had that I’m rather past the ‘new father’ stage myself, and have been for a few years, anyway. Figured this should be clear enough, considering the photos shared ’round in the standard ‘how’s everyone’s children’ stage of conversation just a few minutes previously had included some of my actual progeny.
… but people, seeing the newborn, kept congratulating me on the birth anyway.
Eventually, I gave up explaining, and just started saying: ‘Thanks. We’re very proud’.
Well, y’know… noisy place, baby on a phone. So I guess, hey, whatever.
In unrelated:
I think I may be with him on this.
Technically, it’s not so much that I don’t care about the former. It’s just that the latter seems a little more achievable, from here.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Jesus for President!
I wonder what the country would look like if Jesus was president…?
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Tony –
bahahhaha I sure do hope they do that. Please please burn your votes, you wacked-out conservaturds.
Jesus as president…Once he signed that executive order turning all the water to wine, the motto “Great Lakes, Great Times” would have a fun new meaning.
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Jesus isn’t eligible to be president. At least not of the US: not born in the US. I don’t know if there’s any formal ruling on whether a zombie can be president or not.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Isn’t there something in Mormonism about Jesus being born in North America? Or am I thinking of Native Americans being the cursed offspring of Cain? Or was it Ishmael? Damn. My mythology recall is slipping.
…but then there the age thing. Poor guy missed the age requirement by 2 years. Or is he eternal? Does afterlife count in the calculation?
…so many questions.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
A handy dandy chart to refer to when trying to remember the vile statements made by certain conservatives.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
from Tony’s link:
I am now imagining a police officer telling him that after he tries to lay charges against someone who’s punched him in the face.
A. R:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Congratulations to the Darkheart family on the birth of their daughter!
Also, a prompt, tweedy (I got a new jacket today!) pouncehug to Caine!
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Also, I think the “fiscal conservative” Republicans would be in for a surprise when Jesus started chasing the money changers out of the temple (i.e. ending tax exemption for churches), feeding the poor (i.e. expanding food stamps) and curing the sick (i.e. universal health insurance.)
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Hooray for DarkInfant!!!! Glad everything went well and that everyone is doing okay.
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Also, Caine, your little something of four boxes of books has certainly arrived just now! Now I have shelves of books! Books that I’ve wanted to read, books I’ve read and wanted a copy of, books that I remember from childhood that I look forward to reading to Little One and books that look so interesting to read.
The Adopted Kitty is loving the boxes as a pet bed, play toys and scratching posts. I imagine he’s going to have to battle the Little One for them once she gets home from school.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I almost forgot to say,
Hi Mb>lexie! Good to read you.
Beatrice, glad you’re back. Sorry the interview stressed you out. *hugs*
Improbable Joe:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Just thought I’d pop back in to say something:
Yay DarkInfant! Congrats to Audley and family, and a stiff-tentacled welcome to the littlest member of the Horde!
Hekuni Cat, MQG:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Yay! DarkInfant has arrived safe and sound. Congratulations, Audley and Mr. Darkheart! And thank you for sharing this joy with us. *hugs*
carlie:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
It’s a Pokemon??!??!? :)
Congratulations!!!
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Damnit, that should say lexie .
I even previewed. sigh
Hi, Joe! :)
Amphiox:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Most of the time (if they even think that far), they’ll say that Jesus did these things privately, as a private citizen.
Of course they don’t notice the cognitive dissonance of them wanting tomake Jesus the government.
The most direct biblical parallel to the modern holier-than-thou Republicans are the Pharisees who helped crucify their lord.
If Jesus really did return today it would be these Republicans who would be first in line to send him to the gurney for a lethal injection.
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 25th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I grant you the money changers and the poor, but universal health care? I dunno. Seems to me like Jesus did a lot of picking and choosing of the people he would heal. I mean there were crowds and things weren’t there, but at any point do we see him stretch his hand over a crowd and say “all of you are cured”? or spend days standing at the head of a slowly advancing line of sick people, not leaving till everyone in a town was well? No, I think the healing was more about the photo ops for him.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Joe, good to see you.
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
JAL:
Aaaaw, happiness! Let me know how Five Quarters of the Orange is, I haven’t picked up a copy for myself yet. I couldn’t resist the silly Hedgehog & Pony Detective books for little one, they have stickers! And bookmarks!
dianne:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Seems to me like Jesus did a lot of picking and choosing of the people he would heal.
Faith healing’s like that. If he’d had techniques that worked…
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
brobroxley @172
Yes, the story originated at CBS, and was picked up by Maddow. The difference is that commentary, valuable commentary from my point of view, was added at The Maddow Blog. That’s why I linked to the Maddow source, and not to CBS.
Suit yourself.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
dianne:
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Oh, and:
Yoooooooooooo Joe!
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Chorus lines of conga rats, dressed in tutus and sparkly bling, for the arrival of Dark Infant.
Dear Dark Infant,
I’m sure you are adorable, but we have all taken a pact not to eat you anyway.
Stay the fuck away from Twitter.
PharyngulAuntie,
Lynna
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Will do.
I knooow. I’m so jealous! I loved them so much growing up and am tempted to steal them away (lol) but can’t wait to see her face when she gets home.
Also, the Adopted Kitty is seriously channeling the Little One right now. He’s entangled in her necklaces, boas and hiding up the piles of boxes like a badly constructed fort. It’s adorable. I can’t wait to see what happens when Little One gets home in an hour and half.
Maureen Brian:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Wasn’t Jesus always in trouble for hanging out with tax collectors and fallen women?
I only ask because I don’t think the ReThugs have read that far in their bibles.
mildlymagnificent:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Goody. Now the infant is here …….
…. we get a chance to go back and pick up the stitches we dropped while trying to knit to the rhythm of that wretched song.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Sigh.
A small yellow Piper Cub is currently circling downtown Scranton pulling a banner that reads: “Big Bird Says Vote For Romney.”
Do they think they are funny?
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
JAL:
Uh oh…bookfight! :D What kind of books does little one like? I forgot to ask, so I was a little lost going through boxes of sprog books. Any particular ones, type, age group?
jefrir:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Yay baby! Congratulations, Audley.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
ah, I knew I would end up missing the Audley +1 event.
oh well, gratz!
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
..oh and, pictures or it never happened!
:P
Socio-gen, something something...:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
*peeks in quick … ctrl+f “DarkFetus” … Kermie waves*
Congratulations, Audley and Mr. Darkheart!
Welcome DarkInfant, and congratulations on a successful entrance!!
*rushes back to class*
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Dundee:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Woohoo! Welcome DarkInfant!
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Yet another Republican CEO is sending thinly veiled threats to his employees. Theses CEO letters and emails amount to “Vote for Romney, or else.” Some of the CEO’s have threatened “personal consequences” if employees vote the “wrong” way. Some companies have attempted to track employee contributions to the Romney campaign, encouraging (ordering?) $2,500 per employee.
The newest CEO we’re adding to the list is Mike White, chairman and owner of Rite-Hite.
Uh … just saying you respect an employee’s right to vote as they choose doesn’t cut it when you then go on to send a detailed and threatening email that can be boiled down to “Vote for Romney or risk losing your job.”
I think that, not only is White ethically wrong here, he is also factually wrong. Obama’s existing tax proposal would not increase Rite-Hite’s worker’s personal income tax.
Link to story of Arthur Allen,, CEO of ASG Software, sending threatening email to his employees.
Link to article about David Siegel, CEO of Westgate Resorts, threatening to fire his employees if Obama is elected.
Link to story about the Koch Brothers using their clout as bosses to round up votes for Romney.
Link to video of Mitt Romney telling business owners to encourage their employees to vote for him. (Contains the usual “I can’t tell you how to vote” disclaimer, but is clear in its intent to scare employees into voting Republican.)
Amblebury:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Huzzah, Darkinfant has arrived and a new Darkfamily is formed!
It’s Friday here, I could wet the baby’s head. Or pout and sulk following my immunisation for meningococcal disease this afternoon.
Wetting the baby’s head it is.
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Tina Fey blasted Todd Akin today:
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
#282 Lynna,
thanks for the links. A good boss will not tell his employees how to vote. Sounds like those employers need to retire and sell the business to someone interested in running them. It takes work, not just profit to be successful
islander:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I haven’t browsed Pharyngula in a good while, but you all popped into my head when the subject librarian couldn’t help me with finding info for my research paper.
I’m comparing the three major monotheisms. In Judaism and Christianity, you often hear people say “I’m a Jew, but I don’t even believe in God,” or “I’m a Christian, but I don’t actually believe in the resurrection or that Jesus was anything more than a moral teacher.” But you don’t see this in Islam, and I want to explore this phenomenon.
The trouble is I can’t find any literature on this! Surely I’m not the first to notice this… Does anyone know where I can find something on this?
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
But you don’t see this in Islam
I’m curious as to how you made such a strong conclusion.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Huzzah, Darkinfant has arrived and a new Darkfamily is formed!
Rey Fox:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
“We’re not trying to tell you how to vote or anything, but just realize that if Obama wins, then our shareholders won’t be as obscenely rich as before, and so you’ll all be fired.”
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
islander email these guys http://www.centerforinquiry.net/ISIS
ednaz:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Hi Joe!
lexie:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Conga rats to the darkhearts! Baby picture????
Thanks Caine and Josh for the updates.
Beatrice – that would not be a totally inaccurate interpretation ;)
Portia – hi to you too
ImaginesABeach – Is only Justin Beiber referred to as “the misogynistic asshole”, because a whole gamut of people could be justly referred to such?
Tethys:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Hooray for Audley and darkinfant!! Welcome to the world, we are so happy you have arrived safely! *confetti*
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Congratulations on the safe arrival of Darkbaby! Wonderful news to wake up to this morning.
May all concerned get plenty of sleep.
Lynna, OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Women get together and make a video prompting women to vote for candidates that will protect women’s rights:
http://vimeo.com/51940856
Features Leslie Gore.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@islander
I assure you, you do get that with Islam
A friend once described Syria as a land entirely made up of pius muslims….as long as the police were watching
cm's changeable moniker:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
And, not old enough.
Unless you count the 1979-ish years of undeath.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
you know, the really funny thing is, even taken on its face value, this statement is not accurate.
People got bloody fucking rich under Clinton, for example.
In fact, you can look at the last 50 years and the trends are pretty clear that the best economies were usually created under democratic leadership.
the people who own companies who say otherwise are just as ignorant as any creationist rube, and love to shoot themselves in the foot.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Unless you count the 1979-ish years of undeath.
wouldn’t that disqualify him from being human as well?
IIRC, being human is also a required qualification for POTUS.
islander:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Icthyic,
I could be very wrong. I’ve just never heard someone make the claim, and I spoke with the Dean of the PoliSci department about it and he essentially said “you’re on to something.” The PoliSci librarian nodded when I said it, so I guess I thought this was the case. I couldn’t find any scholarly articles in our database on this, but I found plenty on secular Judaism and secular Christianity. To be clear, I’m not talking about Muslims who don’t follow the tenets of Islam, I’m talking about deists or atheists who call themselves Muslims.
I know there are people in countries that call themselves Muslims in the interest of their safety, but I’m interested in people who honestly think of themselves as Muslims without believing the Quran is true and Muhammed is the Prophet. What would be a working term? Secular Muslim? Cultural Muslim?
I will try the email broboxley, thank you.
raven:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
FYI. In case Lynna hasn’t posted it yet.
This guy was also a Mormon FWIW. He met his victims on an online Mormon dating site. I can’t think of too many places that sound less appealing.
This is sort of a pattern with the Tea Partyists. That MD is Tennessee is so pro forced birther that he wanted his girl friend to get an abortion so his wife wouldn’t find out. Walsh from Illinois owed $100,000 in child support, Darrell Issa has numerous arrests for arson and weapons violations and so on.
Not sure what it all means. Maybe you have to be devoid of empathy and anti-social to belong to it.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
I’ve just never heard someone make the claim,
nor have I, but I get that I’m pretty ignorant wrt to Islamic communities.
Hell, I never knew there were atheist jews until about 10 years ago.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
What would be a working term? Secular Muslim? Cultural Muslim?
well, comparing to what I said about atheist Jews, the ones I’ve met would likely identify with “cultural judaism”, but I haven’t a clue if this has been formalized in the literature.
I wish I could help more, but I’ll lay odds that there are indeed “cultural Muslims” extant in the world.
cm's changeable moniker:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Well, human remains are considered human. But I think:
… is probably all you need, and:
… is just icing on the cake. ;-)
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Well, human remains are considered human
well, technically human remains are considered human remains, hence the addendum to “human”.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
My sister and brother-in-law are cultural Muslims, FWIW, so the species isn’t non-existent.
Lodger just walked in and told me that on the news there were a lot of Democrat voters being interviewed and asked why the Presidential race is so close. To his amusement not one of them answered anything but “I don’t know” or “I’ve no idea”.
It seems that the popularity of RMoney is as baffling in his country of origin as it is to the rest of the world.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
One legged, one armed marine throwing out the first pitch in the world series, got it over the plate.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I wish a reporter would ask me that question. My response would be: “Because Mitt is an older white male and Obama is black.” Honestly, Mitt is such a fuckup that if Obama was white he’d probably be leading by 10 or more points.
SC (Salty Current), OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Project Runway All-Stars?
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Honestly, Mitt is such a fuckup that if Obama was white he’d probably be leading by 10 or more points.
the evidence tends to side with this, unfortunately.
it’s certainly not the only reason, but it’s enough of one to cover a 10 point spread.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Ichthyic:
Post racist my pasty white arse.
Our 91-year-old neighbor is voting for Romney. Even though his budget (well, the Ryan Teabag budget) will force her to sell her house to live, she just doesn’t trust Obama. Translation? He’s black.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 25th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Welcome to the world Darkinfant. It’s a strange and wondrous place full of secrets and mysteries, knowledge and facts, joy and excitement and even sadness and despair. There’s a beauty in all this chaos, but just now I’m sure you’re having a hard time seeing that. In fact, right now the things you see best are objects with high contrast, black next to white and the like.
Don’t worry little Darkling, as time goes by you’ll get used to those eyes and a whole rich world of colour, shade and subtlety will open up before you. You’ll start to recognise things, remember them even. Like that man who’s been hanging around a lot. You know the one, he’s got a goofy, tired grin and keeps saying that he loves you very much.
Of course you already recognise Mum. She’s been carrying you beneath her heart for the better part of a year. Her sounds are your sounds and her arms around you are a comfort unlike anything else.
There’s something you should know about your mother, Darkinfant: she already sees in colour. She sees the world in more than shades of black and white. She sees the world in all it’s rich palate of evidence and reason. The tones of “I don’t know.” and “Let’s find out.” and perhaps most importantly “I was wrong.” are as familiar to her as your many moods will become. That’s important little Darkling, so very important.
So I say to you, the freshest of the fresh new persons in the world, on behalf of myself, a very minor member of the Great Tenticalled Horde of honourary auntsuses and unclesuses here, that when you have trouble seeing, when the chaotic shades of the world become overwhelming: go ask your mother. She’ll see you right, and the world, your world, will be all the better for it.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
I’m not crying, it’s just raining on my face.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Translation? He’s black.
oh, I think it’s more than that, but yeah, that’s surely a part of it.
in support of “more than that”, I repeat the story of my own father, who voted for W (twice), even though i printed out for him reams of documentation, which he dutifully read AND agreed with, that W’s policies were actually NOT in his best interests.
authoritarian personalities are very hard to sway with rational argument.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
With our neighbor, I really do think it is all racism. She is a life-long Democrat. She was very involved in labour unions in the shoe factories that used to be around here. 2008 was the first time, ever, that she did not vote for a Democratic Presidential candidate. And she’ll do it again next month.
blogofmyself:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Oh my gosh oh my gosh, DarkInfant!! Congratulations to the Darkheart family!
—
Ing #217: Did you just post The Second Coming in honor of DarkInfant? That is the best thing ever. I think you just won all the geek points in the world.
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
For a while, I was somewhat anti-choice (in the no-abortions-past-viability) camp, until the Horde knocked some sense into my. Even last weekend, I had some of my classmates (and a teacher) tell me that “no abortions except for rape and incest” is an acceptable “compromise” between pro-and anti-choice. I think I felt nauseous. Then they criticized me for not tolerating their views enough. Blech.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Thunk:
good for you for not being tolerant of their intolerable bullshit.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
With our neighbor, I really do think it is all racism. She is a life-long Democrat.
that does seem to support the idea that his color is the primary factor wrt to your neighbor.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Ichthyic part of it is class as well. Poor whites are used to the great white ones, born rich, ivy league sneering down at them as the poor glare in envy and hope.
When one of their class rises through to the rich, ivy league schools and sneers like the other rich, his new friends, forsaking where he came from they get bitter and cling to what they know.
The first campaign was about hope, change, and they voted for that. This election cycle is about not being quite as shitty as the other guy. Bitter people as well as racists are in the mix. Not enough to affect the electoral college but it will be close.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
…oh forgot to mention:
The first time my pop voted for W, I point blank asked him why right after.
his answer, and I quote:
“How could I vote for someone with name like ‘Gore’? I mean really… ‘Gore’.”
I kid you not.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
#322 someone I know votes straight republican just to cancel out her brother’s straight democratic vote over an argument that took place over 38 years ago.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
you think politics here are bad, bibi is joining forces with liebermann on a split ticket :-(
warmonger and the racist on the same ticket….
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4297100,00.html
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
just to cancel out her brother’s straight democratic vote
people who don’t take responsibility for the democratic process do not deserve to participate in it, IMO.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
FossilFishy:
That was immensely touching.
It brings tears to my eyes.
You should write greeting, birthday, holiday…any cards.
Eulogies too.
I mean, damn.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
warmonger and the racist on the same ticket….
yeah, that’ll work to solve Israel’s problems for sure!
*sigh*
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I thought other members of the Horde might find this insulting:
That’s from baal, whom I’m sure many of you have encountered around FtB.
The part that’s really fucking insulting is the bolding (my emphasis).
blogofmyself:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
FossilFishy #312
Wow, that was beautiful. I have so many feelings right now.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
FossilFishy,
#312 is the most amazing, moving, writing. Astonishing. Thank you.
*Goes off to fetch a hanky*. Something stuck in both my eyes, I think. BRB.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
FossilFishy:
I can’t remember if you’re on PET or not, but I think it would be a great place to post that message as well.
If you’re not, may I copy/paste?
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
splittery language
Look out! It’s the Judean People’s Front!
DLC:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
1) Welcome DarkBaby. Best wishes to you and your parents.
2) Mitt Romney is a .. um wait.. this is Lounge.. have to be polite. . .
Mitt Romney is a crumb. A corporate pirate who has never grown from when he led a gang of youths to chase down a boy and cut his hair in private school, because the victim had committed the sin of being different. Romney is a bully who has never had a comeuppance. I would not vote for Mitt Romney if you gave me a shoebox full of money.
3) On Obama and Racism. Post racist society ? no. just submerged racism. Many can still hear the dog-whistles.
SC (Salty Current), OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Thanks, Tony.
(And damn, I’m trying to organize my Fromm writings while enjoying PRAS.*)
I didn’t know Croft had responded, but I just started reading and…
This is ridiculous, and exactly what I said, in the post he’s responding to, is the sort of condescending bullshit we’re tired of.
Doesn’t bode well.
*Go, Uli!
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Despite the negativity I’m displaying here, I do hope the A+ succeed in positive social change.
we’ll pray for you too.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
This is ridiculous, and exactly what I said, in the post he’s responding to, is the sort of condescending bullshit we’re tired of.
I dunno… that language sounds very splittery to me.
:P
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
SC:
I’ve been out of the Project Runway loop for a season or two, so I didn’t know the All Stars was on. I’m guessing 9 pm Central (US)?
____
I left a comment to Baal pretty much demanding an apology from hir to all the regulars here, as that insulted was painted with a broad brush (though you were the only member named).
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
IMO, all the “in-group” stuff people like Baal refer to is likely mostly based on projection.
They are authoritarian personalities looking FOR ways to CREATE in-groups within the atheist community, and one of the best ways to do that is by creating a strawman of a subsection of a community, and then attempting to demonize it.
I saw this a LOT when I spent just a few days lurking over at the slimepit, while it was still primarily on ERV’s blog.
Ibis3, member of the Oppressed Sisterhood fanclub:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
@erikthebassist way back upthread (& I haven’t read any subsequent comments)
I came here to the lounge for a few minutes because I was feeling so broken and disheartened by Al Stefanelli’s post here (http://t.co/crGLHaBz DO NOT GO THERE unless you’re prepared to get sad or really pissed off or both), and thought something here might make me feel better.
And you did. Hugs. It makes all the difference in the world when someone gets it and wants to change. Thank you.
Oh, and I don’t know that you need counselling to figure out why stuff like that comes out of your mouth. It’s floating around and infects everyone.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
…Heck, I see it with Ben Goren over on Jerry’s blog too.
He’s been feverishly working at strawmanning FTB and A+ to try and garner a cadre of supporters there.
it’s quite sad, really, given that he only started doing that when a lot of people here rightly took him to task for a rather poor analogy regarding abortion(?) he tried to defend here a while back.
the level of pettiness is just astonishing.
SC (Salty Current), OM:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
No, 9 Eastern! It’s half over!
strange gods before me ॐ:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
islander,
I do. Offline I personally know at least one agnostic Muslim man, and I know several Muslims who don’t believe portions of the Quran.
You can find some in any poll which asks the two separate questions: “what is your religion” and “do you believe in God”.
Rather than dig for those polls which I’ve seen before, the easiest thing to do is consult the General Social Survey.
Row: god
Column: relig
You’ll get the raw numbers (unadjusted for known sampling errors) by setting Weight to No weight. For the purpose of simply demonstrating that they exist, that’s the weighting I’m using. You may have other needs.
Of 44 Muslims in the United States,
2 said “I don’t believe in God.”
1 said “I don’t know whether there is a God and I don’t believe there is any way to find out.”
2 said “I don’t believe in a personal God, but I do believe in a Higher Power of some kind.”
2 said “I find myself believing in God some of the time, but not at others.” 9 said “While I have doubts, I feel that I do believe in God.”
28 said “I know God really exists and I have no doubts about it.”
The number of respondents is small, so don’t be too confident in the percentages. But the first two groups should correspond to Muslim atheists, Muslim agnostics, and the third might be Muslim deists or wooists.
In my experience you’ll find a lot more Muslims who don’t believe everything in the Quran than those who’ll say Muhammad is not a prophet. And neither are necessarily atheist, or agnostic or in any way unconfident about what they believe.
IMO, secular shouldn’t be used as a synonym for disbelief.
Cultural Muslim might do what you want, but perhaps it corresponds to a larger set than you’re pointing at. Maybe you can do without a working term?
mythbri:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
FossilFishy, I wish you would comment more often. You always have such beautiful things to say.
….
With regard to the Mormon Tea Party rapist, I hardly even know how to express what I’m feeling about that. I have friends who use Mormon dating sites.
I hate that the Church tells women that they only have value, can only be exalted, can only have a full life by marrying and submitting to a man. I hate that this dead asshole rapist took advantage of the market that the Church created so he could violate human beings. I can only be glad that he’ll never do it again.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
324 Ichthyic unfortunately trying to do anything about it would result in large scale removal of what few civil rights we have left.
voter registration form mississippi 1955
http://www.crmvet.org/info/ms-littest55.pdf
how it works
http://www.crmvet.org/info/ms-test.htm
that’s not a place to go back to
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I read that post by Al, and posted this:
wow. that’s a level of disconnect I rarely see in someone intelligent. I’ll mark it for future reference.
seriously, he really can’t see how that EXACT phrase is tremendously misogynistic, simply because the names have been changed?
amazing.
A. R:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
I posted this on PET a few minutes ago. I was amused by myself enough to post it here:
I’m not sure what catchy name I could give this platform. Ideas?
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
I’ll be obtained the episodes and burning DVD’s under duress from the Redhead. Failure is not an option….
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
#345 AR
the “Spend the entire 8 years defending your administration in the USSC” party?
carlie:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Here’s as creative as I am. It’s a little sing-song-y chant:
There is a baaaaay-bee
Belongs to Auuuu-dley
And Mr. Auuuu-dley
….
….
And it’s a baaaaay-bee
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 25th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Thanks Tony, blogofmyself, Tigger and possibly Portia.
Oh, and Tony, come closer, I’ve got a secret to share: [whispers] I cheat. I often post on things that already have heightened emotions attached to them. I’m not sure I could do generic stuff like cards, though eulogies, yeah, I could handle that if I knew enough about the person.
I’m not on PET. My intent, as is often the case with this sort of posts, over and above just letting my own feelings out, is to put paid to the Straw Vulcan perception of skeptics. And hopefully to reinforce the positive aspects of our shared values. So to that end I’d be honoured if you were to post it in PET.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 25th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
What’s the point of being obscenely rich if you aren’t surrounded by impoverished serfs to lord over?
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
mythbri:
Sometimes I do too. However, the sporadic nature of these wonderful posts makes it that much more special.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
What’s the point of being obscenely rich if you aren’t surrounded by impoverished serfs to lord over?
touche’
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
FossilFishy:
Thanks.
I’ve crossposted your message.
****
If anyone else is on PET, Audley has a pic up.
Dutchgirl:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
A question for anyone keeping furry little rat friends. After taking a 4 year break, I am once again hosting 2 rats. I have always had females, but this time got 2 males. My question: are boy rats messier by nature than the girls? My girls all learned to latrine mostly on their own very quickly while these boys seem to poop/pee where ever is convenient. Thoughts and experience on this very much appreciated.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 25th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Good evening, all!
First of all, I can’t thank Teh Horde enough for the love you sent my way. I’ve read through this thread and you guys are the best.
I just wanted to take a quick moment to let you all know that DarkInfant and I are both doing extremely well and the hospital staff has been taking excellent care of us. She is currently asleep against my chest* and Mr Darkheart is contentedly snoring in the bed beside us.
Life is good.
*Not for long, diaper blow out. But after I take care of this mess, if anyone wants an amusing (not gross, promise) labor story, I’ve got one for you. :)
A. R:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
And the fundies think we hate infants.
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
FIFY
What’s the point of being obscenely rich if you aren’t surrounded by the lesser rich to lord over?
Serfs are furniture
Watch the born in rich, they hand their coat to a minion without checking to see if the minion has a clue. If the minion doesn’t have a clue they are given the gimlet eye (different from the hairy eyeball but much, much colder) and the “incident” and the minion is never heard from again
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
harrumble!
broboxley OT:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Audley!! Share away!
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
squeee!
Audley:
I’m so glad things are proceeding smoothly for you and your family.
Will look forward to the labor story.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Dutchgirl:
I’d say the best person for advice would be Caine. I think a few others here have had rats over time, but I’m drawing a blank at the moment.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I’ve had rats too, but…
I have to admit I never even thought at the time you COULD “litterbox” train them!
boy, that would have saved a lot of cleanup time.
cicely:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Joe!
pouncehug*
-
Tigger, we’ve run into some turbulence in getting a linkable pic of the Overly-Upholstered Quad-Cane of Destiny. I like your pink unicorn—if only it could, somehow, be both Seen and Unseen, it would be Paradoxically Perfect!
:) :) :)
-
Awesome!
-
FossilFishy:
*sniffle*
-
*hugs* for Audley and DarkInfant.
Yes, please!
:)
-
blogofmyself:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Audley: Yay! I am so glad you and DarkInfant are doing well. Congratulations again to you and Mr. Darkheart. I’m looking forward to the labor story.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Cicely, don’t worry – I’ll be patient! My cane is called Not Very, as in Not Very Invisible Pink Unicorn. When I explained this to the Lord High Cardiologist and his retinue after she had been admired at my hospital bedside, I distinctly heard at least two people snickering. =^_^=
Yes please to another birth story to add to the collection! One can never have too many!
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 25th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Hooray, for poo bombs and happy parents and healthy bubs and amusing (not gross) birthin’ stories! At some point I hope there’s a link to a pic that those of us who aren’t on PET can see. Privacy and safety concerns come first of course, so that’s just a hope rather than a request.
mythbri: Thanks for that but Tony has the right of it. Less is more I think. And besides, I have to be moved myself to write things like that, which happens infrequently.
mythbri:
October 25th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Congratulations, Audley!
I’m glad the family is doing well.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Malala’s father speaks out
I’m glad she’s recovering so well.
I’m happy to see the devotion from her father.
I’m also happy to see her father acknowledge the efforts of medical staff in saving the life of his daughter. No mention of a higher power.
Menyambal --- Sambal's Little Helper:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Audley Z. and DarkInfant, yay and congratulations to you both.
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
FossilFishy
Definitely Portia. Er, me. I am on the list of people who really appreciate your writing.
FWIW, I recall some of your posts that were not related to another topic being discussed, and they were just as moving and beautiful. (If that’s what you meant). Your post to Darkinfant made me miss my mom. In a good way.
Audley
Hooray for healthy happy family. Can’t wait to hear your story.
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 25th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
I absolutely read that to the tune of “Copacabana”.
A. Noyd:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
The dungeon detainee ryanwilkinson posted at B&W that he wants the Pharyngula folks to know he’s sorry. Seems genuine, too.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Okay, so all was going well, and I was almost done pushing (although I wasn’t aware of just how close exactly. Hello, epidural!), when my nurse said something funny (though damned if I remember what it was now). I guffawed and pushed DarkInfant the rest of the way out.
My doc, who has been practicing for 35 years, has never had a patient “laugh a baby out.” Needless to say, he was impressed. :D
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
kristinc:
Thanks to *someone* sparking a Justin Beiber conversation earlier, I read that song to the tune of ” Baby baby baby ohhh “
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Audley:
Sweet!
Laughter brought her into the world :)
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
A. Noyd:
The apology does seem genuine, but I wonder if he truly understands why he was wrong. Telling people here that they were “right about everything” makes me question that.
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Hello, epidural!
Ha, called that one yesterday :)
My doc, who has been practicing for 35 years, has never had a patient “laugh a baby out.” Needless to say, he was impressed. :D
actually, it seems to make sense to me, laughter moves your diaphragm, which could actually affect contractions, or create needed space as it moves up and out of the way.
I wonder if Doc will experiment with his next patient…
“laughing is working doctor!”
“uh, ok, try sneezing!”
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 25th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
How best to respond
MY HEART BLEEDS
Ichthyic:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
tiny, tiny violins play for poor Ryan.
Ray, rude-ass yankee:
October 25th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Congratulations to the DarkHearts! Welcome to this crazy/interesting/crazy world DarkInfant! Did I mention it’s crazy out here? May you find much love and many hugs.
carlie@348,
Why do I hear that in Sandra Bullock’s voice?
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
For all the people who have that Justin Bieber song stuck in your head what with all this baby talk, I give you the cure:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVGJ3YFDc8
Not that it will get the song out of your head, but at least it will be a much better version.
Ibis3 – thanks =)
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 25th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Oh, hell yes! That’s beautiful. I’m calling 8 years old as the first time the DI tells you she’s sick of hearing that story. ;)
Ibis3, member of the Oppressed Sisterhood fanclub:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Congratulations, Audley and DarkInfant!
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 25th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
I’ve heard of women laughing out babies before! It makes sense that you need to be relaxed and pretty much pain free (for whatever reason) for it to happen though. How sweet :)
Portia:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Audley, that’s freaking great :D
Carlie, I like your song. It made me laugh. :D
I’m all :D tonight.
mythbri:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Audley, I can’t imagine a better way than to laugh someone into the world. ;) I think it bodes well for DarkInfant’s no-doubt-excellent sense of humor. I’m glad your epidural took.
erikthebassist:
October 25th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Oh and that link I posted, check out how many of the idiot YouTube commenters are more concerned that the bass player, Henrik, looks somewhat feminine, than they are that he’s one of the most bad ass amazing bass players they will ever hear in their pathetic little lives.
Yet another thing misogyny shits all over.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 26th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Oh yes indeed. Not only hear, but see too. Watch his left hand, there’s not a picowatt of wasted energy there, fan-fucking-tastic. And I have to say that didn’t think that I’d ever hear popping that could be described as tasteful, but there it was. Thanks for the link.
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 12:12 am
“laugh a baby out.”
blimey, I ♥ this space!
*happyjoyhugs* to all the Darks
theophontes (坏蛋):
October 26th, 2012 at 1:05 am
@ Audley, Mr, DarkInfant
CONGA RAT ELATIONS!
{The tardigrade chorus lines up to sing “Happy birthday, DarkInfant, happy birthday to you…”}
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 1:34 am
on another topic
erichovind
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/25/are-the-australians-passing-us-by/comment-page-1/#comment-479372
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:39 am
chigau:
Interesting.
I do wonder what he means by “conversation”. Blog commenting doesn’t lend itself to proper conversation.
****
Yeah, marriage is all about love of one man and one woman. Except when teenage girls are given away to settle disputes.
Like chattel.
They treated the girls like they weren’t even human.
I can’t even grasp that.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 26th, 2012 at 1:41 am
You have to just love Eric’s politeness as he announces his intention to irritate and troll.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 26th, 2012 at 1:43 am
I love bashing Eric and all but as a mater of principle I will not be engaging his little brats. We are not some fucking goats to take his little shit stain students out to see for a field trip. I refuse to be his “education” prop. If we really want to screw him over and good we should actually consider not feeding the trolls. No response, nothing. Just make it a huge waste of time for them.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:45 am
Audley,
Awwwww, I’ll be smiling the whole day because of you. You laughed the DarkInfant out.
I’m glad you had such a great delivery. Yay for epidural and the funny nurse.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:46 am
Ing:
Be fair, he’s going to have help irritating and trolling.
How many sockpuppets can one have simultaneously?
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Audley
I heard that somebody was laughed out of the room. Being laughed out of the birth canal is a new one :)
I’m glad you are all well and doing great. Give the DI kiss from me.
Fossil Fishy
Beautiful.
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 2:03 am
The notion of a hovind having human sockpuppets chills me.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Trailer for Iron Man 3
Sarahface, who is trying to break the lurking habit:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:21 am
FossilFishy, #312:
Oh, that’s a gorgeous piece of writing. I feels like it should be printed out and kept along with all the other baby stuff ’til DI is maybe 11/12? And then she can read it and know that, scattered around the world, she has lots and lots of people who were thinking of her and her mum, hoping everything would go well, and generally cheering from the sidelines.
–
Essay still not going well. Due in in 9 hours, I’ve done 1/3 of it. And 6 of those hours are unusable. So I should probably actually get on with it.
Sarahface, who is trying to break the lurking habit:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:33 am
Audley! Congratulations! :) And I love your birth story, it inspires feelings of warm&fuzziness.
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 2:36 am
re: FossilFishy #312
save it for a NewMolly
ibyea:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:58 am
@Ing
But troll hunting is going to be so fun! ;)
Louis:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:06 am
Audley,
Congratulations to you and your family.
Mmmmm new baby. Now do we have that with the red wine or the white wine? I always forget.
;-)
Louis
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:16 am
Now do we have that with the red wine or the white wine? I always forget.
it’s a mammal.
red, obviously.
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:17 am
I’m curious… since when does Eric Hovind even HAVE students?
SQB:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:50 am
Audley, congratulations to you and the rest of your family! And that’s an awesome way to give birth!
rq:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:53 am
FossilFishy, that was one beautiful welcome letter.
And since I’m joining the crowd again today – Audley, congratulations again, to you and also DarkFather (they say daddy’s snores are soothing to the baby… I’m inclined to agree)! I’m very glad everything went smoothly and (as it turns out) hilariously. :) Lucky you and your epidural (slightly jealous).
Louis:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:58 am
Ichthyic,
Hmmm but one can have veal with white wine if one so chooses…
Mind you, since I am going through a BBQ-neonate phase atm, a robust red will cope best with my sauce…
Louis
Louis:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:00 am
Also, GiggleBirth, I want one…not personally you understand, but it is pretty AWESOME!
Louis
McC2lhu doesn't want to know what you did there.:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:01 am
To Audley and newly expanded family:
Hugest congratulations to you all. You will be tired and cranky for a while, but when you are tying the little shoes, getting laughs at your funny faces and happy noises at your improvised poetry and songs, you will feel quite a bit more awesome than you have ever felt before, making the moments of fatigue seem ridiculously trivial. Have fun, and mind the spit-ups.
Also, if EITHER mom or dad feel depression or anxiety anytime in the next several months, take it up with your physician immediately. Don’t hesitate a moment. It will make sure all of you stay in the happy place you should be.
McC2lhu doesn't want to know what you did there.:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Pleh…spent a couple of hours poking holes in pro-Rmoney rhetoric on Yahoo comments. What a thankless job. Smirking douchecanoes who obviously didn’t read enough to comprehend my posts, and certainly didn’t bother trying to refute what I said, and respond with name calling, are still allowed to vote. Frustration central. Every time Lynna puts up another Mormie/GOP whackiness post, though, I feel enthused again to wade back into the shallow end of the gene pool to hopefully kick a few enemy neurons into action enough to think about ramifications of a Rmoney administration.
Nick Gotts (formerly KG):
October 26th, 2012 at 4:20 am
Hey! Many conga rats, Audley!
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:31 am
Malala Yousafzai’s courage can start new movement for global education:
The petition is at http://educationenvoy.org/
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:44 am
Pakistan Taliban threaten another child activist after Malala shooting:
Fun-loving guys, aren’t they?
Sign the petition at http://iammalala.org and let them — and others, such as President Asif Ali Zardari — know just how much you approve of shooting girls to keep the world’s supply of cooties ignorant, barefoot, and laughing out babies.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:49 am
Giliell,
I’m sure you remember our friend Timon for Tea. If you crave a good laugh this morning, do read this .
I know you don’t comment on B&W any more, but considering you too have a history with Timon for Tea, this comment is worth venturing there for.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:52 am
Seriously, that from a guy who got warned by Ophelia for baiting me by calling me misogynist after I pointed out some of his sexist positions about women.
I see this is going to be a LOL day.
Nick Gotts (formerly KG):
October 26th, 2012 at 5:01 am
*sigh*
The woopid, it burns! While my son and I were away, my wife had to take poor old dog to the vet – she (p.o.d.) was limping badly from her arthritis, had temporarily and messily lost control of her hindquarters (mini-stroke?), and was even refusing food. The vet didn’t diagnose the temporary loss of control, prescribed painkillers at a cost of £85 for a month’s supply (there’s no NHS for dogs, but we hope the insurance will cough up), but also wanted to perform acupuncture on her! Wife refused, I’m sure much more politely than I’d have done, and fortunately the painkillers have been very effective. Still, we have to face the fact that at 13, and having slowed down a great deal over the last year, she probably doesn’t have much longer. :-(
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Meanwhile, in the USArseholiest TTTT (thugs, theeparty, taliban, and theocracy) shitepile, Republican Richard Mourdock: I gained votes after rape remarks:
opposablethumbs:
October 26th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Audley, that has to be about the nicest labour story I’ve ever heard :-D
Great to know that all parties are well, and to see you sitting up posting with DI asleep ::goes very slightly soft around the edges. Ahem. Resumes stiff upper lip; glares::
My OH used to play computer games with Spawn#1 in his arms when she was awake in the small hours, while I got some kip. It doesn’t seem to have had any lasting ill effect on her … :)
I wonder what she will think of this when she is older (hey, you are screen-capping this thread for posterity, aren’t you? It might be fun for her to see all this one day! Hi, older DarkChild! ::waves across the pond and the intervening years::)
carlie:
October 26th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Audley – you win all the birth stories, FOREVER. Every time there’s one of those gatherings where women start to swap horrible birth stories and one-up each other on how awful it is, you can just shrug and say “I laughed and my baby came out”, and glide off leaving silence and confusion in your wake. :)
I hadn’t thought of it that way, but my song was definitely done with a Sandra Bullock-y style of goofy awkward dance moves and hesitations. Although, the Copacabana version might supplant it in my mind.
Seconding the comment above about if you start to feel depressed. It’s ok, taking care of a baby is hard, and you’ve got a zillion hormones going right now, and if you feel bad you take care of that shit and fast. Just call your OB up and they’ll know what to do.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 26th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Thank you so much, everyone! I ♥ you all.
It’s almost 7 am here and I’ve gotten very little sleep, but that’s okay. I had the nursery take DarkInfant until her next feeding, but I just wanted to check in before I crashed for a little while.
I’m tired and sore and stinky… but I’m absolutely in love. DarkInfant is nothing short of perfection. We’ve been doing a lot of “skin to skin” contact to soothe her and the first time Mr Darkheart snuggled up with DI was incredible and I of course bawled my eyes out. It’s been that kind of day.
Anyway, for you non-PETers, I’ll have a picture of her up on my blog as soon as I get a good one where she doesn’t look like Ed Koch in a bad toupée. ;)
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 26th, 2012 at 6:01 am
And I promise everyone 2 things: smooches have been distributed to DI and if I start to feel anxious or depressed or overwhelmed I will talk to my docs ASAP.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:02 am
quickly adds more smooches to the pile
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Audley
Get some sleep, we can wait.
And if by the start of next week you feel an urge to cry, cry, cry, just do so.
beatrice
He’s just precious.
He’s never said a sexist thing in his whole life! And we know it’s true because he says so!
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:12 am
That whole conversation turned more bizarre than I thought it possible.
mildlymagnificent:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Poo bombs!
Recalled this television ad, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paw0M7p1-8k – always gets a laugh out of me.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:39 am
I swear the little one did that to me. It was one of those late night nappie-changes and she didn’t only poop in my face and on the couch but she also hit the wall 2m behind me…
Fortunately she was exclusively breastfed at that time, which made it a bit less disgusting.
opposablethumbs:
October 26th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Brazenly kitteh-containing birthday gif for Audley and DI :-)
(a friend re-posted this from tumblr – I don’t know the original source. Also, according to preview this doesn’t embed – honest! Apologies if it does!!!!):
http://i.imgur.com/j3pYz.gif
Sarahface, who is trying to break the lurking habit:
October 26th, 2012 at 7:28 am
opposablethumbs: d’awwwwwwww <3 I love that gif
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Things just don’t get any cuter than that gif… Except maybe pics of somebody’s newborn (nudge nudge wink wink to Audley)
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Dressing up for Halloween: a feminist’s guide:
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:07 am
I’m afraid I have bad news.
Hurricane Sandy is forecast to interact with a large trough near the US East Coast, and likely to turn left and hit somewhere either side of New Jersey, in about 4 days.
This interaction is likely to lead to massive deepening of the storm, to somewhere in the neighborhood of 940-950 mb, and cause its wind field to massively expand in size (this is already happening). It will become somewhat of an uneasy hybrid of a hurricane and a nor’easter.
Large amounts of wind damage over a wide area, as well as precipitation, are expected. The massive size of the storm is also likely to lead to very large waves and storm surges.
If you are living on the US East Coast, I recommend reviewing your hurricane preparedness plans, and stocking up on essential supplies.
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:13 am
USSC to hear revied FISA case
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-top-court-hear-arguments-over-government-spying-050252225–sector.html
about time, hopefully the will reinject some sanity to our government and end the security theater
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:19 am
thunk:
In NEPA, we are already watching Sancy with trepidation. It appears to be following the same track that Dianne did in 1955. Which dumped up to 1 metre of rain over the Pocono Plateau in a three-day period. When storms turn west or northwest from off the Atlantic seaboard, they have a tendency to stall out (witness Lee and the other one last year). Oh, joy and happiness unforeseen!
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:20 am
I like Biden’s attitude. Link is below for fair use purposes, not a recommendation to read further.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82897_Page3.html
Thomathy, Holy Trinity of Conflation: Atheist-Secularist-Darwinist:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Congratulations to Audley and the Dark Family! I know I’m late to the party, but last I tuned in, all were waiting with baited breath still.
______
I am undergoing a couple of small procedures on my face and jaw in about four hours, a left and right temporomandibular joint arthrocentesis as well as a lingual frenectomy. I will be unconscious for the procedures, but I will be just fine!
You should all know that after this I will have a more mobile and less painful jaw as well as a longer tongue. I’ve been waiting for these procedures for a while now and I’m kind of excited that I’m finally upon the date of surgery.
Obviously, I’ve imagined some new things I can do with a longer tongue and a more mobile jaw, not the least of which are sexual. I will be able to lick my dinner plates without getting my nose covered in sauce! I’ll be able to lick ice cream cones instead of eating them (I’m not sure whether I’ll like that or not …ice cream lickers tend to suffer from ice cream dripping and I can’t abide a mess or lost ice cream). I will be able to stick my tongue out a people! I’ll be able to painlessly open my jaw to its full extent in order to eat large sushi rolls all at once. There are other things, but I’ll find that out as I go.
First, I have a practically liquid diet for the two weeks while I recover and exercises to do in order to ensure scar tissue doesn’t actually shorten my tongue and tighten my jaw.
I might not be posting for a while, cause I’m staying elsewhere while I recover and elsewhere has a bad connection and I’ll be high on pain killers anyhow. I would be staying at home with my good connection and high on pain killers, but Thomathy’s Other (who has not previously been mentioned) has his elderly parents coming to visit and they don’t know about his gayness or my existence and that, sadly, needs to be maintained until they die (which probably isn’t a long time from now, though they are proving to have excellent longevity so far). Which is just bad timing, but life is messy.
Which is all to say bye bye! Until I can post again, that is.
Best of everything to the Dark family and to the newest edition to the Horde!
imkindaokay:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I’ll admit I’m a sockpuppet of Ryankwilkinson but it’s because I just have to say this:
I am sorry.
I was wrong. I didn’t realise the magnitude of sexism/racism that exists in this world, in my part of the world, until I arrived at uni.
I didn’t realise how much these ‘lads’ and ‘ladpages’ and other such things needed to be fought.
The epiphany came yesterday: when one of my flatmates said there was no such thing as sexism or racism.
But I have to thank FTB (especially pharyngula) for helping me.
Block me/delete me, I am a sockpuppet, but, I couldn’t go around with this guilty conscience for too long.
Sorry. Thank you.
Jadehawk:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:57 am
see? I told y’all the kid had walton-like potential.
I appreciate your post, ryan. glad you came to your senses.
dianne:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:11 am
we are already watching Sancy with trepidation. It appears to be following the same track that Dianne did in 1955.
Sadly, my first thought was “what could I have been doing in 1995 [misreading the date, obviously] that is still upsetting people?”
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Do you want the full list, or just the edited highlights?
dianne:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I refuse to take the blame for anything that happened in 1955 though. I wasn’t even a secondary oocyte yet then and my time machine is strictly virtual.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
dianne:
Thank you for the laugh.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Thomathy,
Good luck with the surgery and recovery!
—
imkindaokay/Ryankwilkinson,
I’m glad you realized you were wrong. Kudos for coming here to apologize.
I wouldn’t mind you staying around, if chief poopyhead decides to give you a second chance.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
imkindaokay/Ryankwilkinson:
Thank you.
Thomathy:
So I guess the rice crackers, jawbreakers, hard-shell tacos, popcorn and other stuff is out? Well, unless you run it all through a blender, of course.
You have my sympathy. Last fall, I had 1 1/2 teeth extracted and 21 fillings filled within a 64-day period.
Be safe.
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:30 am
today’s cuteness overload, http://www.youtube.com/embed/PztO-OvzRyg
opposablethumbs:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Thomathy, all the best for a perfect surgery and fast, good-drugs-fuelled recovery. That sounds a bit daunting, but you sound like you’re ready for it and in the right frame of mind.
One of my Spawn had a lingual frenectomy a few years ago (in order to be able to wear braces … :sigh:: … but it’s all over now and the braces are GONE) and it seemed to be just fine (I know it’s only part of your situation, but anyway, go you).
Sorry about your OH’s elderly parents, that is … well that is nasty shit and I’m sorry you both have to cope with it. Argh. Why can’t people just love their kids, fuck it.
imkindaokay aka ryan – wow, good for you! For having your eyes and ears open, and for your integrity in coming back to say this. I wasn’t sure before but I imagine you must be (by my measure) quite young if you’re just starting uni … anyway, it’s good to see you and I hope maybe you’ll decide to stick around.
Rey Fox:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Those types always have to surround themselves with loving acolytes, don’t they?
Quoted for quotiness.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Last week, I pointed to a website that had six proofs for the existence of the specific Abrahamic Protestant God. But I failed to bring the link over. So here is the link for any who are masochistic or in need of a really good laugh: http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html?gclid=CN62q7D5nrMCFQOf4AodPC8AWA
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Oh great, there’s gonna be zillions of babies zooming around.
(Checks ‘fridge…) On the other hand, I am running a bit low. Pop a few over this way, please.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
broboxley:
That dog looks like its having so much fun. I might actually be persuaded to have a dog if it came trained that way!
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am
There’s a Romney banner ad at the top of the page here for me. Funny the adbots can even pick up Rmoney for data collection purposes. ha. There’s also the “language professors hate him!” one, to which I say “Dude, everyone hates Rmoney!”
blogofmyself:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Audley: Best birth story ever. That is literally the sweetest thing I have ever heard. I’m so glad you, DI, and Mr. Darkheart are so happy.
Thomathy: I hope your surgery goes well and that your recovery is speedy and complete.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:20 am
A man in China sued his wife for not telling him she’d had plastic surgery to look the way she did. He won.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Portia,
I’m sure their daughter will have a lovely life with that man as her father (at least if they stay together/keep contact).
cicely:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:32 am
“This is the way the world begins; not with a whimper, but with a laugh!”
-
Thomathy, best of luck!
-
blf:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
There’s no getting away from anatomy in art class:
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Beatrice:
Yeah, what a gem of a father, huh. Maybe he’ll require plastic surgery. : P
====
[whine ahead]
My aunt was going to have a costume party tonight (her birthday is Halloween). She just called to say she’s moving to next Saturday…which happens to be my birthday. When she does something she knows is inconsiderate, she has a knack for telling me the reasons it’s not a big deal. Sigh.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Oh great. The excursion from the zoo is here.
That is, on Thunderdome.
cicely:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Anybody else having trouble with YouTube, today?
-
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
It has begun.
Popcorn, anyone?
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:00 am
ooohh, new invective
Alaska politics is fun
By the way, a new Palin is in the woodwork
http://www.adn.com/2012/10/25/2672338/republican-says-french-and-union.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:01 am
They are disappointing. It’s like he let a bunch of ten-year-olds loose on a break from their clown school.
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Hey anybody want to join in an interesting convo???
ctbn:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Anybody want to engage in a discussion about God?
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Shoo, shoo! Bad boy. Back into Thunderdome!
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Godbots, if you insist on bringing it here you might find yourself unable to comment anywhere on Pharyngula. Listen to Beatrice, and SHOO.
ctbn:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Haha. Lots of conversation going on over there. Where do you stand when it comes to God and the afterlife?
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
How do you know God is not real?
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Portia, this is just as good of a place as any.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:10 am
LEAVE.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
What the fuck? Is this some sort of school assignment from a rabid right wing authoritarian Christianis Dominionist school?
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Shoo! *brandishes a broom*
Out of the living room
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Ogvorbis,
This is bizarre.
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Eric Hovind starts off with a lie.
Predictable.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:14 am
It’s as good a place as any. You don’t go tromping around someone’s house in rooms where you’re not invited. Don’t do it here.
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:16 am
We just are here to have an open discussion. just curious… how you know for sure there is no God?
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Please go over to Thunderdome and get out of this thread. You are not welcome here (by me (I can’t speak for everyone)).
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Jebus on a stick, this is ridiculous. Hovind hasn’t heard of sarcasm, apparently.
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:18 am
This blog is a place for an open topic discussion. Did I read it wrong somewhere??
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Oy, what did I tell you?
PZ’s message on Thunderdome:
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Do not be a fucking shitstain, cavarly4calvary, and go to the thread that was provided for you.
ctbn:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
The lounge is open to discussion on any topic, am I right?
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Why aren’t we welcome here??
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Portia, I have dealt with these flying monkey before. They will not show any humor at all. Sarcasm is beyond them.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Yes you read it wrong.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Because our host asked that you confine yourselves to one thread for this school assignment.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Arg darn PZ and being busy.
This guy has been warned what, four times now?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:24 am
The fact that you are ignoring the stated wish of the owner of this blog shows that you have no fucking respect, ctbn.
What a bunch of bloody stupid gits.
cavarly4calvary:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Why are you so defensive?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Why are you being so offensive, fuckface4rudeness?
You cannot show the least bit of respect for others.
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
490 cavarly4calvary the religious instruction/discussion is not here, it is the other thread that has been opened for you and yours. This thread is for relaxation and for folks not to be annoyed. Obviously you are annoying people in this thread. Go to the thread provided to you. People will answer your questions there. Not here. Is that clear enough for you?
Richard Austin:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
This thread is an open discussion thread, but it is also heavily moderated and, while most topics are allowed, certain behaviors are not.
If your desire is to make a good impression, take your discussion to the place where the owner of the blog has requested you go. If your desire is to be douches, then we have no reason to be polite. Either way, you shouldn’t be posting here.
Rey Fox:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
If it’s anything like last time, where they all just spouted presuppositionalist stuff about God being the necessary ground of for knowledge, then this will be a colossal waste of time.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Or for spelling.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Why are you being an asshole? Head over to Thunderdome and join the Gish Gallop like all of your classmates.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
It’s making me twitchy over there. I may have to quit.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Portia,
I don’t blame you. All of them spouting the same shit (I mean almost literally repeating the same comments), and they call this place a hive mind! It’s taxing and stupid.
Rey Fox:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Called it.
One more thing before I drop the subject for the sake of preserving the atmosphere, in case any of Hovind’s students are still reading here: We don’t want you on this thread because this is the Lounge, which is where we have pleasant conversation with each other about our lives topics of shared interest. It is not where we argue with creationists. Many of us get enough exposure to the dominant privileged religion of the United States in our daily lives, hence we need an escape from all that noise.
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Could they be Turing Machines?
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
I decided to just get blasphemous over there. Maybe their fee-fees will get wounded and they’ll flounce. I wonder though…if this is an assignment, are they being graded? And how? A point for each time they make us say a naughty word at them? For each time they ask us to disprove an unfalsifiable assertion?
Matt Penfold:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:51 am
This time they seem intent on knowing nothing about maths.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I think I’ll need to wash my brain in bleach after this.
Kudos to everyone who can follow and distinguish what those fools are saying. I just see the same nonsense repeated over and over and over again again again ag *thump* sorry
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
At least there’s a limit on it. Are the 20 minutes up? Or is that just when he’s sending in the next round? I think I’ll literally go shower and come back and see what they’ve recited by then.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Back in high school, I remember a Freudian Psychoanalyzer progamme in BASIC. And no matter what response you gave, you got some shit about, “And how does variable make you feel?” (with variations). The Hovindmindless over on Thunderdome feel like that ‘game’. Simplisticly tossing out random words from our comments and asking “Why do you believe in variable?”
So apparently Hovind programmes his students with BASIC.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Oh
Oh, no.
He mentioned 6 groups.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Yeah. That’s what I was afraid of.
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Fuck! I was only to make one comment to the flying monkeys.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
There was so many of them… I couldn’t see the sky from all those things flying around and dropping turds all over the place! I couldn’t… I couldn’t even see. Too fast… *sob* I just want some peace! *wail*
No seriously, I couldn’t follow all those “conversations”. And I’m using the term conversation loosely.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Beatrice:
Would you call it…wait for it…a plague?
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Portia,
:) yes
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Oh good, no more groups after all.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Phew. I don’t know what made me unable to tear myself away.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
A Plague of Presuppositionalists? Sounds good to me.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
The lounge is not open for picking fights. Being smarmy and dishonest is inherently fight-picking, especially around decent human beings with functioning backbones.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I like it, Og. Alliteration is fun.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 26th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Is the cult reinforcement exercise over? I’m sure everyone went away with a renewed us vs them mentality.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Portia, prithee, a plague of presupposisitionalists is thine.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Ogvorbis:
:D
And on that note, I am going to wrench myself away.
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 26th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
ELIZA!
Oh, I missed the rain of rude assholes? What a shame.
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
well enuff with the creobots, I has marching band pit crew duties to preform later.
I really would have thought that we could of had a real theological argument until I bothered to look up his creds. Bah, what a snakeoil salesman. No background at all
blogofmyself:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Well, now that the godbots are gone, I’m going to go get ready for work. I am a tutor here at my university, and Fridays are the day I tutor Astronomy. Ahh, science. A good hour of star formation and nuclear fusion is just what I need after all that mess.
Nick Gotts (formerly KG):
October 26th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
No, that would be overkill, finite state automata would be quite adequate for presup argumentation. (See Chomsky hierarchy – yes, same Chomsky.)
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
What I cant figure out is that they dont believe in evolution but even a cursory glance at the history of their own religion would show an amazing survival of the fittest construct from ad 33 to present
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
more security theater http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20080621#?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible is going to be in book form! Excitement.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
broboxley:
Wife and I had the whole evening figured out: I stop at Subway to grab two subs for dinner, walk in the house, change while she loads up my lunch cooler with drinks, and down to the stadium so I can announce for the marching band. Luckily, I looked at the schedule. The game is Saturday night.
Free night!
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 26th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Good evening
Thomathy
All teh best for the surgery and get well soon.
ryan wilkinson
Thank you for your apology.
I hope it is sincerely meant and will really lead to changes.
+++
Ahhh, the fun of private healthcare*
A very good friend of mine is married to a ploice officer and let’s just say they’re in trouble and part of it is financial. The pressure they’re under has led to severe mental health problems for both of them. Now, for him to get help he would have to pay the therapist and then hand in the bills to get them refunded by his insurance. Since part of his trouble is that he’s deep in debt he cannot access healthcare even though he has insurance…
Germany has public and private healthcare and ironically tenured public servants have to have private healthcare
Patricia, OM:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Damn, I missed a fuckwit fest? Did I also miss the baby?
Dang.
In the good news column, my doctor has decided to take me off one of the meds that she thinks may be causing my gawd awful symptoms. Yeah!
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Progress is made.
I hope it works, Patricia.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Hooray for good news Patricia!
Ogvorbis, enjoy your free night : )
dianne:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I used the analogy “like the curve for global warming” today. Everyone immediately knew that I meant a curve with a lot of fluctuations but a clear trend towards increase over time. Is that a good sign or a bad one?
David Marjanović:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
YAAAAY DARKBABY YAAAAAY!!!!!
^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
Remarkably cute for a newborn (judging from the Fb photo I’ve seen).
dianne:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Germany has public and private healthcare and ironically tenured public servants have to have private healthcare
Wha…huh?
David Marjanović:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Seconded :-)
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I am *not* obsessively checking Audley’s blog for pictures. Nope. Not. Ahem. *shifty eyes*
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 26th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
What, Portia? This picture?
http://audleyzdarkheart.blogspot.com/2012/10/baby-darkheart-has-arrived.html?m=0
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Ichthyic, do you have any news about this statue of Gollum?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DarkDaughter already has an evil glint in her eye.
ImaginesABeach:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I have resisted requesting an invitation to join PET for a long time. This DarkInfant wait has forced me to change my mind. Who should I e-mail for an invitation? I will try not to tick people off if I’m permitted to lurk there…
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 26th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
ImaginedABeach,
Shoot me an email with your fb details. I’m a mod. :)
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Squeeeeeeee.
Thanks Audley. I commented between refreshes haha.
:D
What a little doll.
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ichthyic, do you have any news about this statue of Gollum?
They put it up a couple of days back, i haven’t seen it yet though.
looks impressive from the photos!
I’ll take photos myself and put them on facebook when i see it.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Audley:
The DarkInfant is adorable. Long legs (or it may be the angle?). I don’t remember my kids straightening out their legs until they were a coupla two-t’ree weeks old.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
:3 Very larval. :D
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
@Louis:
NUH UH!
‘Cause SCIENCE sez!
opposablethumbs:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Yup. No doubt about it (thank you for the photo link, Audley!) – she’s scheming …. planning to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!11!!!elebenty!!! mwahahahahaha damn I think I hurt something ow too much eebil laughter can be harmful to your health too many hours of work today can be harmful to what is left of my brain …
Sleep as much as and whenever you can, Audley and Mr. – don’t forget, that’s the important bit, SLEEP EVERY CHANCE YOU GET and (of course, obviously) fuck housework and all that sort of nonsense.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Good news. No rain in the area tonight (despite lots of clouds). I can grill!
Wife and I actually have a steak. A real, honest-to-FSM 3cm thick steak. Not sure how our tastebuds will react.
mildlymagnificent:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The rules taught to me for the first three months were:
Never stand when you can sit.
Never sit when you can lie down.
And sleep when the baby sleeps.
Using baby’s sleep/nap time for catching up with work of various kinds can wait until baby is *mumble* weeks old.
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Audley
Only one picture?
c’mon.
Y’all must have taken at least 700 by now!
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I came to this conclusion today while driving the beautiful fall drive between Asheville and Knoxville today
If I see truck nuts on your vehicle all it says to me is “Hey I’ve got an ounce of meth in here!”
Caine, Divisitrix du mal:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Audley, Aaw. That’s quite the head of hair Darkling is sporting. Looks like mum already. :D
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Too many todays up there.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Wouldn’t that make it tomorrow?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
WATCH THIS!
Watch this right now!
Dr. Frank N Furter was in the right when he fed Meatloaf to his guests.
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
ROFLMAO.
the comments on it are fantastic.
the first one is even good:
“But who will protect the people from Democracy if not Mitt Loaf?”
LOL
Rey Fox:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
“Give my truck nuts to my grandchildren!” -Dying redneck, last night’s “Birdemic” Rifftax
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
LOL!!!
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
In other news, I heard yesterday that Meatloaf endorsed Mittens.
****
I’m not happy with James Croft. What is the deal with so many people who want everyone to discuss issues in the same manner*? Why do so many people think *every* member of the Horde acts the same way? What’s with the blanket generalizations? You’d think James or Baal didn’t actually *read* threads.
I am not going to feel bad calling someone a shitty fuckwit if they display behavior like oh, say Wooly Bumblebee or Justin Vacula.
Nor am I going to be nice to someone who uses ableist slurs or gendered insults. Yes, I’m going to probably curse at them. Can’t handle it? Grow a backbone or STFU.
*no, he didn’t say that. But he seems quite against the overall tone at Pharyngula. If we removed the cursing, profanity and insults that are used here, what would that leave, I wonder…?
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Son: “Daddy, what’s a clusterfuck?”
Dad: “Here, sit down and watch this video.”
Janine: Hallucinating Liar:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Tony, watch the video I linked to.
You will regret it.
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I can’t quite pick it out for sure, but in the beginning, it sure sounds like Mittens is singing the WRONG lyrics.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Was he drunk?
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
they ALL look drunk on that stage to me.
then again, it’s possible that this is because they always look punch-drunk to me anyway.
John Morales:
October 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Interesting: Doctors regrow breasts in cancer sufferer
Patricia, OM:
October 26th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Audley – Awwww! And all other appropriate cooey sounds.
Patricia, OM:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Janine: Thanks, that was just like being back at my old church.
/sarcastic snort
ednaz:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Tiny little itty bitty!
Translates to ‘What a beautiful sweet little baby!’.
Thanks for the picture Audley. : )
Patricia, OM:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/26/us-pope-synod-idUSBRE89P0O220121026
Poor old popey is sniveling.
Patricia, OM:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Some people are just Homer Simpson stoopid:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/activists-say-religion-is-key-in-combating-female-genital-mutilation/2012/10/26/62f5e2e0-1f9f-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_story.html
ednaz:
October 26th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Janine: Hallucinating Liar @ 55
O.K. I watched it.
What the hell was that? LMAO! Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything – it would have been all over my screen.
Clearly sometime after Bat out of Hell was made, Meatloaf’s evil twin killed him and took over.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 26th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Meat Loaf’ Uwe Boll apperance is not his least dignified moment.
That’s just sad
Ichthyic:
October 26th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
from Patricia’s FGM article:
now why does that idiocy sound so familiar, I wonder?
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
I’m going bowling.
ednaz:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Ing: Intellectual Terrorist – I just read the synopsis of BloodRayne. It looks like fun. And it will be o.k. because it’s the evil meatloaf that burns to death.
:thumbsup:
Patricia, OM:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Ichthyic – FGM was kind of below my radar until a PBS or OPB documentery aired called Half the Sky . It was so horrible it actually made me cry. I’m waiting for the book version to come in, and then I hope I have the courage to read it. *shudder*
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
…well that was weird.
Take eight onions, chop, toss in a big pot with a cup of homemade chili powder and a stick of butter, saute for about an hour starting on high heat and working down until very brown. Try a sample. Tastes disgusting.
…try a sample with a few shreds of grated extra-sharp cheddar. Tastes AMAZING.
Yeah, I don’t get it either. O.o
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Patricia –
I read that book for a class last year, and it is terribly horribly heartwrenching. It’s also, as you would expect, inspiring, moving, and uplifting.
There are some parts that are a little bit “” when it comes to addressing reproductive rights in developing countries, but other than that I heartily endorse reading it, if you can stomach it.
I actually haven’t seen the documentary, because the night it was aired I couldn’t get PBS to come in on my tv. Sad. Now I’m going to have to look for it online again…
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
It’s simple. Extra-sharp cheddar is magical, wondrous, glorious stuff that makes everything taste better.
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I learned about FGM in college reading The Hidden Face of Eve and did a presentation on it. That’s definitely one of the books that really woke me up and altered my world view.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 26th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Cross posting from the Please Stay Safe thread ’cause this is important:
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
…okay, made the rest of it.
Going to a Halloween party tonight. Made chili onion macaroni and cheese, with the cheddar and a variation of my usual sauce recipe.
This was a really good idea. :3 (Maybe I should have added 3 tsp of cayenne instead of 2).
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I just received not only an email with the subject line “time ticks on” but ALSO an email with the subject line “second times the charm”.
On my college email account.
From campus group leaders. Who are college students.
I want to weep.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
From facebook:
You may not be human. You may not have emotions. Even though Gawd gave them to you. Even though he created you. In his image, no less. Even though emotions are often impossible to control. Congratulations, one more thing to feel irrationally guilty for!
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
CRAP! I auto-corrected: the first email subject was “time TICS on”. Sigh.
Esteleth, Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo:
October 26th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I was looking at the weather map. Scary!
I live far enough inland that the worst I’m likely to see is rain*. The weather report for the next 10 days is rain.
* Barring unforeseen circumstances like Sandy deciding to jump into the Great Lakes, that is. In that case, I’m 10 miles inland, but rather up in elevation. Nearish (2 blocks) the river.
However, I have many friends (and a sibling) in New York City, as well as several others down in the DC area. Meep!
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Also, I entirely blame my fellow students for my being behind on my drama paper. As long as they keep sending me campus-wide emails with absolutely cretinous language mistakes, thus forcing (forcing I say) me to post on Pharyngula about it lest my head explode from the throbbing vein in my temple, I’m not going to get anywhere finding out what critics think of Oedipus. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 26th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I cannot tell how bad my area is going to be hit…like at all. We have a warning but the forecast just says regular rain with not bad winds. No clue
cicely:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Tigger: here are pics of my cane, in various seasonal dress; you have to click on the names to get them to come up, for reasons I know nothing of. The first three (with the lemon yellow octopus) are all of last year’s Halloween outfit; the jack-o-lantern one is what The Well-Overdressed Cane is wearing this Halloween.
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FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 26th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Another, final, cross post. Clearly my state of mind on this issue is not good.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 26th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
cicley: That rocks! Beautiful work.
Portia:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
FossilFishy, even your weather warnings are works of art.
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Throwing up the literature paper rescue flag!
How does one properly attribute in-text quotations from the prologue of a play? I understand that Scene 1, line 1 would be “(1:1)” but nowhere can I find mention of prologues. Should I abbreviate it to, eg, “(p:1)”?
David Marjanović:
October 26th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Caught up with this subthread till my own comment.
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What Microraptor probably did with its hindwings. Read the comments, too.
Petition to sign: Some of the votes in Ohio will be cast on electronic machines that belong to one of Mitt (R-Money)’s biggest campaign contributors. Two of the directors of that company were even present at the “47 %” speech.
Petition to sign for investigation into Republican voter registration fraud in Virginia.
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American custom: all titles are for life. Former presidents are always “Mr. President”.
…Yeah.
THREAD WON!
He’s already King of Poland! :-)
:-o
:-o
:-o
♥
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
^_^
Is “I can’t tell you how to vote, but” the new “I’m not racist, but”?
A boss who doesn’t want to go to fucking jail won’t tell his employees how to vote. Don’t paint not being an outrageous criminal as being some kind of extra-noble gentleman.
Are you sure?
Seconded!
Sounds awesome.
So am I!!! :-)
+ 1
Wow.
cicely:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Thanks, FossilFishy!
I am very susceptible to flattery.
:)
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broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
#94 David Marjanović
do you have an American state or federal statute that jails an employer for telling employees their preference for them to vote in an election?
broboxley OT:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Backslider tonight. The football game was in a horrible for driving venue. The school had a new yardman/emperor that dictated that football buses park in front of band buses and band equipment trailers were not allowed in the reserved parking or adjacent.
So we parked 2 trucks with 2 trailers next to each other at a 90 degree angle across the lane from the buses.
From prior experience at this school I decided to create a 2 vehicle gap in the traffic so the 150 band kids would be able to unload their instruments without dodging cars. 15 minutes before the game ended traffic started piling up with people wanting to pick up kids from the game. They park, in a driving lane and refuse to move. So this line is moving 1 car length every 5 minutes.
I block the lane with carts, explain to each driver why I need that gap and move them right up as soon as a car length opens up ahead.
A blonde thin coulter looking woman in a new escalade is next in line. Hold up my hand explain to her that as soon as the car in front of the gap moves up she can pull behind them. As soon as I turn around she hits the gas determined to occupy that 2 car length gap.
I slammed my palm into her windshield where her face was and gave her a look. She rolls down the window screams!. “Don’t touch my car! do you know who I am?” I glared at her and told her “I know exactly who you are” then thought, “you fucking rich white trash bitch”
Now I wouldn’t call my wife that, I tell my daughter not to use that term and from hanging out around here I should know better but still, I was that ” ” close to boil out into a whole range of gendered insults on her arrogant behind. Best part was after 10 minutes there was a space so I let her move up the 2 car lengths she sat there for 1/2 hour, steaming as the road was well blocked at that time.
shit happens :-( and I get to do it all again tomorrow
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Bowling was fun.
(even though it was 10-pin)
(next (if I have my way) is darts)
(I will
kill them allwin.)rorschach:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
So evilutionists got this one ass-backwards then, so to speak?
‘Penis Worm’ Shakes Evolutionary Tree
chigau (棒や石):
October 26th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
I’ve been washing my hands for about a half hour and my socks are in the laundry basket.
Am I clean enough?
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 26th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
cicley: And I’m very susceptible to the confluence of beauty, function, humour and skillful craft. But lest I be accused of excessive flattery I will say that Tigger’s effort also rocks, if for no other reason than the rhetorical trap her design lays.
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 26th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
What general area are you in, Ing?
Latest GFS runs seem to take it toward NYC, though.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 26th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Dunno.
[holds up a silhouette of a bowling pin]
What does this look like?
I used to play darts regularly. There’s nothing better than hurling sharpened steel around whilst drinking. We had a rule that if it bounce back and you caught it, and it drew blood, you scored whatever you were aiming for. Mind you, attempting even basic math whilst drinking made me sad.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 27th, 2012 at 12:15 am
@102
Just south of NYC in CNJ
Patricia, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Portia – Thank you. I was so moved by the documentery. I’m so ignorant. I don’t even grasp what a fistula is.
Hard as this will be for most of us to believe…a person that works in the same office that I volunteer in (Rethuglican) is involved with Kiva! I have to process all of this. Probably won’t be easy.
Patricia, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 12:30 am
I offer my house as a refuge for
anyonehordlings fleeing on the East coast if you are on a flight stuck in Portland, Oregon. Yeah, it will take me over an hour to rescue you, but I’ll do my best.kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 27th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Holy shit, I think I’m done with my first draft. When it starts coming together, it comes together fast.
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 27th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Ing:
You’re at Ground Zero, it seems. Prepare for hurricane-force winds, and TS-force winds for an extended time (over 24 hours possibly), massive rain totals of up to 30 cm, and a storm surge of 2 meters at a spring high tide, if you are near the coast.
Even if it misses, the sheer size of Sandy will still produce much of the same effects.
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 27th, 2012 at 12:57 am
Ing:
Also, power may be out for two weeks or more. Be sure to stock up on food, water, activities, etc. (see the dedicated thread).
Patricia, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 1:00 am
Ing – holy shit, come sit by me. No really, come sit by me.
chigau (棒や石):
October 27th, 2012 at 1:10 am
FossilFishy
re: bounce back rule
Ours was “if it bounced back past the line-on-the-floor” you threw again.
I never saw this happen. Ever.
Patricia, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 1:22 am
I’m off to bed sweethearts, but if anyone thinks they need me before I get up PZ, Nerd and Janine have my email, I don’t look at it, but I will until Sandy is over in case someone needs a haven.
Be safe.
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 27th, 2012 at 1:26 am
You weren’t playing with the same folks as me then. We had a couple of guys who tried to bury the dart all the way in with every throw. I’ve seen it bounce all the way back across the line, usually sliding along a tile floor or the like for the last little bit. Though once I saw the guy damn near catch it as it flew past his knee. Blood was never spilled though, so no one ever got to score because of it.
And for the record, I suck at darts. There was only one guy I could beat regularly and that was because I fluked out the first time we played. He was good enough to bother going in competitions and the fact that someone as bad as me beat him got in his head. It wasn’t so much a case as me beating him as him defeating himself. I’ll admit I got a certain malicious entertainment out of watching him get frustrated about it. The things we do for entertainment eh?
chigau (棒や石):
October 27th, 2012 at 1:31 am
Patricia
Sweet dreams.
I am also to bed.
(I, too, am too far from the impending to really matter. But anything I can do, I will.)
chigau (棒や石):
October 27th, 2012 at 1:35 am
FossilFishy
Wow.
Darts as an almost-blood-sport.
teehee
what fun
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker):
October 27th, 2012 at 1:46 am
Oh indeedy. The only better thing was drunken lawn darts. They were banned in Canada 4 years after I passed the drinking age. Sometimes I wonder just how exactly I survived to reproduce.
Sleep well.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 2:45 am
Good morning!
Squeeeeeee Darkbaby!
Hope the hair stays
+++
Dianne
Well, in the olden times when health insurance was invented (did you know that the first German health insurance was invented 750 years ago?), medial bills were something middle-class people could pay out of their pockets. So, when you were a poor worker you had to have insurance while better off people could decide to either buy private insurance or leave it. It’s only a few years ago that it became mandatory to buy health insurance, mostly because people who were formerly privately insured couldn’t pay their premiums anymore and you can’t change back to the public system (which is OK. The public system is financed solidarily: the more you earn, the more you pay, up to a cut-off line while private insrance is calculated on risk, so you put a stop to yung healthy people leaving the public insurance and pay less on private and come back when they were old and had to pay high premiums).
Now, tenured public servants were traditionally middle-class, kind of poor-safe and it was also cheaper for the goverment to have them privately insured.
So, yeah, even with medical insurance he’s cut-off from healthcare cause he can’t pre-finance it.
cicely
Your cane is great!
Ing and other affected Hordlings
Keep safe! Hope it doesn’t hit as hard as feared.
+++
Fuck, it’s snowing!
I ran around in a T-shirt on Monday!
carlie:
October 27th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Ing – Purchase College has already called off classes for Monday and Tuesday and told all the residential students to GO HOME, that’s how threatened your general area is.
I’m in the second or third rung out of the “here’s how screwed you are” color bands of doom, and our forecast still just says “eh, there may be some rain” too.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Yay, DarkInfant is bringing the storm of the year!
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Well, she is female.
opposablethumbs:
October 27th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Um, you lot are tucked up safe and warm with loads of food, water, batteries and nappies, right Audley? And everything on PZ’s list? (I can’t remember and have zero geography skillz so I’m not sure if you’re even anywhere near the relevant areas, but if you are I hope you have everything you need!).
Goes for all of you in the potentially affected areas, obviously. Though you may not all need nappies.
(One of my brothers lives in a very high hurricane risk area, so I tend to prick up my ears and get a bit nervous when I hear this stuff.)
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Opposablethumbs:
Not yet. Being in the hospital for damn near a week will do that to you.
From what I’ve looked at today, we’re far enough east that we’re not in Sandy’s direct path, but we’re still in for wind and rain. We’ve got bottled water and batteries and whatnot, just need to make a trip out to the supermarket tomorrow to stock up on foodstuffs.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Since the nurses have taken her to check vitals and I miss her sweet face already: http://audleyzdarkheart.blogspot.com/2012/10/look-at-her-face.html
(Not really sure why the pic is so low quality. Oh wells.)
MG Myers:
October 27th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Audley-
Congratulations! She’s adorable.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Audley
Squeee!
Ichthyic
Can I bugger you again?
So I got myself the Hyundai a7 and am close to sending it back because I can’t get the fucking thing to get a PDF from my PC and open it.
I know I’m a mouse-pusher but really, this is just not working for me…
irisvanderpluym:
October 27th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Aw, Audley! Congratulations. She’s so beautiful! And so extraordinarily lucky to have you as a parent.
Thanks for posting a link to her pic. I’ve never been prone to panic attacks, but I’ve been reading about the storm this morning and am damn near hyperventilating. For some reason seeing your baby sleeping and knowing she is so loved instantly put a huge grin on my face and made me feel calm and happy.
Rey Fox:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Um…
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Um?
Please speak plain, what did I do wrong?
AshPlant:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Rey Fox: might as well take him up on the offer for now, the Line isn’t getting any shorter :P.
AshPlant:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Oh,it was aimed at Ichthyic. Welp.
Giliell: ‘bugger’ does not mean ‘pester for advice’. It’s just a little closer to ‘sodomise’. :P
Josh, Official SpokesGay:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Hi Horde,
I’m going to be in Massachusetts this weekend, probably to return early Sunday afternoon to Vermont. If anyone needs to evacuate their house I have a spare bedroom, cats, and oil lamps. It’s unlikely anything beyond a brief power outage will happen here in Northern Vermont. Should you need a place to stay, email me at spokesgay at teh Google mailz.
ImaginesABeach:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Audley – she’s beautiful. Maybe the third most beautiful baby in history.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Ash Plant
I just noticed that I mixed up bugger and bother
Just file it as super-duper-offering to Tpyos
Ichthyic
Please kindly exchange verbs above
birgerjohansson:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:47 am
The human sacrifices I performed to ensure the safe arrival of Darkbaby seem to have had unforeseen effects on the North American weather system. I feel like Wiz in “The Wizard of Id”. Usually I just feel like Sir Rodney.
— — — — — — —
“the third most beautiful baby in history” …but she still lacks the characteristic “Stewie” profile that goes along world conquest ambitions. Oh well, we cannot all be archfiends. There must be some good people* around to privde a greater contrast for the villains.
*Darkbaby and Lisa Simpson.
— — — — — — — —
Cold, clear weather in North Sweden today. All the interesting weather has gone to you.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Audley,
She’s adorable.
Keep the updates and/or photos coming, every one makes my day a bit brighter. Congratulations to your little family again!
dianne:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:58 am
The US is doomed. Bosses can tell you how to vote. The only hope for the country is that said employers are likely to horrible that employees will vote against their wishes out of hatred for the company.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Thank you, everyone! Not only is she the sweetest lil’ burrito ever, but the pediatrician just stopped in and she’s totes normal! Goin’ home today!
Birger:
Thank fuckin goodness she doesn’t look like Stewie! I can’t imagine pushing that outta my vag!
feralboy12:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Audley:
Yup, looks like a baby.
Kidding! Beautiful. Congratulations.
(That’s what my former sister-in-law said when my daughter was being proudly shown around by her grandmother many years ago.)
In the 90′s Canondale made a bicycle trailer called the “Bugger.” In my orientation working at a company that also made bike trailers, we were told that the name wasn’t very popular, especially in England.
I laughed for about ten minutes, causing everyone to look at me funny.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:04 am
She’s hiding her superpowers. A wise choice.
Yay!
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I saw this earlier but thought it’d be rude to point it out. That and I couldn’t stop giggling for a few minutes ;) (Being English, I played the post in my head as spoken by an Upper Class Eric Idle-esque Twit) :D
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:17 am
NO!
Please do so!
Don’t let people run around mixing up words in their heads. Just don’t point and laugh at stoopid foreigners
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:18 am
And then you have idiots complaining about enthusiastic consent ruining the mood.
I admit to not having much (any) experience, but “Can I bugger you again?” sounds like something that can only improve the mood. Laughing in bed (or other surface of one’s choice) seems like a good thing.
opposablethumbs:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Ra-ther!
.
.
re appearance of babies, some caregivers were a bit perturbed when I quite happily referred to hours-old Spawn#1 as ugly, and opined that all newborns look like squashed avocados (I was thinking the dark wrinkly ones) immediately on arrival. A few months later, my then SiL was a bit perturbed when I enthused over my brand-new niece as looking like a little monkey.
Doesn’t mean I was any less enthused in either case, they were both adorable!
DarkInfant is already past that brief avocado stage, I see :-D
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:21 am
In my head that conversation goes:
A: Can I bugger you again?
B: Please do.
(all said very politely and with great dignity right until the moment someone finally starts giggling)
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Gilliel, my apologies, I shall do so in future; and I would never laugh at you, but always with you, my dear :)
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Beatrice, yes, it was something like that ;)
.
Now off to find some Palin/Idle slash. Well, that’s just how my brain works.
ednaz:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Giliell – Thanks for the continuing giggles. Much appreciated. : )
Matt Penfold:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:30 am
What’s with the Welsh name then ? :)
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Matt: One of my many many queer and obsessive fascinations is with the character of Merlin, wherever he may turn up :)
cm's changeable moniker:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am
FTFY! ;-)
ednaz:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Please stay safe, Dear Hordelings. Take care.
Portia:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Audley, I second the request for more updates and pictures. : ) As your energy allows, obviously. So glad DI’s check up went well.
Patricia: No problem. Absorbing all the information, emotion-inducing as it is, is the big challenge of reading the book. For instance, I can’t even conceptualized being left to die by my family because there isn’t adequate medical care available and I’ve labored myself into a fistula. *shudder*
—
Everyone stay say who’s even a little in the path of the storm. I’ll be thinking happy thoughts in the Midwest.
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Audley:
Keep in mind Sandy is so large that direct effects might extend from Virginia to south Maine…
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Audley @123
Well I’ll be damned! Looks just like a baby. And human at that. No tentacles after all (unless you hid them under the blankie.)
Sigh of relief.
In all seriousness, cute attack! Awwww. Look at those little cheeks. (Reconsidering pact to not eat the baby.)
AshPlant:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:59 am
I used to love a children’s book called Dogger, which was about a stuffed dog. One day, we were making insects out of junk and cardboard in nursery, and I proudly showed my offering to assembled parents and so forth when I brought it home. They asked me what it was called.
“Hmm.” went my thought processes. “A toy dog is called Dogger. This is a toy bug.” Then I announced its perfectly logical name loudly to the room.
Being a parent must be such fun sometimes.
Speaking of parenting, congratulations are due the Darkhearts, I believe! Woot!
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Fond memories of Dogger, I have.
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:06 am
I’m sure if I should post this in one of the current political threads, or here in the lounge. Seems Gary Cass, Republican religious doofus from San Diego, is hot and heavy into blasting a hole in President Obama’s claim that, “my compass is true.”
Cass has additional political concerns, all of which come straight into his dulled-down brain from a sadistic God. A few excerpts:
“You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun.”
“Harvard is animated by the spirit of Antichrist.” Other universities are “perverted factories of unfaithfulness.”
We Americans have elected politicians with a “broken moral compass, with no biblical moral compass”
Progressive Christians “have murdered their own souls, destroyed their own churches, and have undermined our nation.”
“… the Satanic doctrines of Karl Marx.” (I heard that Marxist shit on NPR this morning, when they interviewed a Romney supporter.)
YouTube link.
Cass was the featured speaker at a Texas conference called “Deliver Us From Evil.”
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Oh, talking about poor menz that don’t understand the world anymore:
Josef Fritzl (yes, that Josef Fritzl) got a divorce. Because his ungrateful wife never visited him in prison or answered his letters. Really!
opposablethumbs:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Me three (reading it to Spawn, that is). Awesome big sister to the rescue :)
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
More foul coupling of religion with politics news: Florida voters will be faced with a very long ballot, one which includes not just presidential candidates and other political races, but which also allows them to choose yea or nay on a ballot initiative that would change the state constitution to allow public funding of religious ministries. Say what? I guess the tax-free status isn’t enough for them.
New York Times link.
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:17 am
And this:
Pah.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Damn, I didn’t know Austrian law was that fucked up and didn’t have shared property in such cases.
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 27th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Here’s what bad
I’m essential services. I am required to even if it’s cancelled try to come into work.
I think I may be getting sick though *cough cough*
Even more fuck you, we’re good on food+water, but have no land line phone and cell phone is a discontinued product so store will not provide a back up battery. This is because fucking Verizon wants to punish poor and responsible people who are fucking frugal and wise enough to take care of their equipment and not replace it after a frelling year.
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Salon published an article detailing ten filthy rich tax dodgers who are, hypocritically, part of a “Fix the Debt” coalition that is intent on inflating the debt to new heights and/or squeezing more out of the middle class and lower middle class. Oh yeah, and don’t forget squeezing the poor and elderly by putting the screws to all their “entitlement” programs.
These guys have put together a $60 million budget to lobby for shit like a “territorial system” under which corporate foreign earnings would be permanently exempted (instead of being taxed when they are returned to America), as journalists Sarah Anderson and Scott Klinger note in the article.
Who are these guys? Romney lovers.
More detail at the link.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Cicely, your cane designs are gorgeous! =^_^=
Audley, DI is beautiful. Thank you for the pictures. She has such a contented look about her. I’ll bet being laughed into the world helped mightily! Or it may be her having fooled the doctors into thinking she is normal, thus freeing her into the world to carry out her Ebil Plans®…
I hope Sandy behaves and suddenly fizzles out; if not, I hope everyone is safe. FossilFishy, your writing is, as usual, awe-inspiring.
Is Long Island threatened? My sister lives there. As it happens, it’s her 50th birthday today. She told me her husband and son were planning a surprise (she found out because her son said “I’m not going to tell you what your birthday surprise is!” even though, knowing nothing about it, she hadn’t asked) and I hope this doesn’t spoil it.
Gilliel, your polite request almost made me LOL, which would have woken my hubby who is snoring beside me (please ignore mistypes – they aren’t deliberate offerings to Tpyos (how could they compete with Gilliel’s?!) as it’s 2:50 am and I’m typing in bed, in the dark, on a laptop with a very dim screen.
Lastly, I had a wonderful Saturday. I’m still feeling deliriously happy. Having got the go-ahead from the cardiogist to take whatever tablets I need to take whenever I need them, I got to go for a bicycle ride with hubby for the first time in months (and found the electric motor hadn’t suffered from the neglect (hubby had been charging the battery regularly)). I even did some shopping (my wheelchair travels in the trailer (not a ‘Bugger’!) and hubby pushed me round the shopping centre). When I got home I only needed a short lie-down, then I did somw gardening (which I had been missing nearly as much as the cycling) then entertained two lots of visitors before being invited to dinner by neighbours.
It was amazing! Before the heart procedure, anu one of those would have wiped me out for days.
Thank science and education for modern medicine! =^_^=
Nick Gotts (formerly KG):
October 27th, 2012 at 10:58 am
“Bug” would have been OK – it’s a colloquial alternative to “bother”, often encountered in the form: “What’s bugging you?”.
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Right-wing views of Colin Powell’s endorsement of President Obama:
Yep, Powell misled the world with that testimony before the U.N., and he in turn had been misled. And he has acknowledged how badly he fucked up. McCain, on the other hand, sold the WMD angle harder than almost anyone, and still says that invading Iraq was the right thing to do.
More comments from the right wing:
chigau (棒や石):
October 27th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Yay Tigger!
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I have always felt sympathy for Colon Powel.
Right now we’re seeing exactly what happens to the GOP’s “black friend” they use you up and shit on you the second you’re no longer useful.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Wow, I was surprised when I read people claiming that this Savile pedophile scum molested people right there in the Top of The Pops.
Disturbing video ahead:
.
.
.
[If you don't want to watch:
Savile, surrounded by teenage girls. A girl sitting right next to him suddenly jumps, with a yell, and tries to move away from him. He laughs and says "I tell you something, a fella could get used to this, as it 'appens, he really could get used to it."
(as it happens, he was pushing his hand under her skirt)
]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oxy1Lyw7U20
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:47 am
More responses from the foaming right wing to Colin Powell’s endorsement of President Obama:
Well, now we know why Colin Powell took such care to expand his endorsement announcement to include his reasons for choosing Obama, and his reasons for rejecting Romney. Didn’t work as far as stemming the “it’s about race” slime tide, but at least Powell tried.
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Right wing groups like Freerepublic are listing the names (and nationalities, of course) of UN election monitors as a way to rile up all the Rambo wannabes. They have threatened violence against these U.N. election monitors.
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Larry Summers provided considerable detail in refuting Romney’s auto rescue claims, the claims he made as a last minute bid for Ohio votes during the last debate.
Talking Points Memo link.
Excerpt:
Lynna, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
This is a follow up to my post @172. Not only are right-wing groups threatening to harass U.N. poll watchers in the U.S. election, but Republican officials are also beating their chests.
Take, for example, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott:
Link.
Emrysmyrddin:
October 27th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Fucking fucking fuck
.
Just like old Harry
.
‘Don’t mind him, he’s old and confused. Just don’t tell your mum’
.
fucker
Markita Lynda—threadrupt:
October 27th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Ing, essential services: can you buy a recharger that plugs into any car’s cigarette lighter? Surely you must have neighbours with cars who would turn on the accessories for you.
blogofmyself:
October 27th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Audley: Oh my goodness, DI is absolutely beautiful.
—
Those of you who are in areas that will be affected by hurricane Sandy: Please be safe. It’s always better to be too prepared than not prepared enough. As I said in the other thread, if any of you are coming to central NC or get stuck in the Raleigh or Charlotte airports, let me know. I’d be more than happy to pick you up and let you crash here for a while.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
We’re home! The kittehs are not impressed.
chigau (棒や石):
October 27th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Yay! Home!
The kittehs are no longer at the top.
No wonder they’re pissed.
Rey Fox:
October 27th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
My favorite part of that story is how Cass heads the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission. I can see why he wouldn’t want anyone else horning in on his racket.
cm's changeable moniker:
October 27th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Congratulations. TinyDarkHeart is in da house.
Also, cyoooot! ;-)
Portia:
October 27th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
An Republican friend posted this with an indignant comment about people using their children as “pawns.” *facepalm*.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pro-obama-ad-has-children-singing-about-an-america-where-sick-people-just-die-oil-fills-the-sea/
…but notice there’s no substantive rebuttal to the points contained in the video.
(I realized that I’ve posted lots of crap from fb friends lately…maybe I should cull the list…)
birgerjohansson:
October 27th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Audley Z,
Regarding cats and babies: If the cats are not used to toddlers running around, they can sometimes get so stressed that they start to pee everywhere.
So in a year, when Darkinfant starts walking/running you should be prepared to find a new home for any of the kitties who starts peeing all over the place.
It’s not anything physical wrong with the cat, it is just becoming a nervous wreck. When such a cat gets a calmer home, the pan-peeing stops after a few days.
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It was easy for Stewie to get out. His older brother Chris was a whale even as a fetus and pretty much wrecked Louise, Stewie could practically walk out upright. U-uulp.
Patricia, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Gilliell – In western USA a bugger is also a hardened piece of mucus in your nose, or something small, i.e.
From an old book I read about Scotland called The Hills Is Lonely comes this jewel of bugger…
He bugger, she bugger,
Quick come little bugger!
Now I’m all buggered out.
:D
birgerjohansson:
October 27th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Under Obama, our defence is increasingly unprepared for the kittencalypse!
http://amultiverse.com/2012/10/24/reality-denialism/
Patricia, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I just fell in love with another sock pattern:
http://www.yarnharlot.ca/blog/
It’s called Monkey. Squeee!
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 27th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
That is so much worse than the Republicans just letting said children die
Mattir:
October 27th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
So, dear Lounglings, the evil moderators of doom on the FB group are going through the list to make sure that everyone who is a member still wants to be a member. This will ensure that our oversharing of pictures of our cats and calls to enlist Horde support in battling the foolish relatives who argue about homeopathy, Tea Party politics, and Rebecca Watson are directed at people who actually wish to participate in such time-wasting activities. So, should you wish to continue, please pop over to the list and say something in the appropriate thread. And if you wish to join in this wicked activity (frankly, the only thing many of us use FB for), drop me an email at Mattir 17 at Teh GeeMail.
This is what I decided to do with my free weekend – having cancelled the Cub Scout overnight, the rain, wind and general storm stuff promptly slowed down, so I have a couple of free days before the awful weather starts. Fooling around on FB seems like a great option.
opposablethumbs:
October 27th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I don’t even have FB because, well, eeebilness – but if I ever did, it would be solely in order to knock on your door chez the Pharyngu-group. I can’t really think of a better reason to go on it.
ImaginesABeach:
October 27th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I took GirlChild to buy a Halloween costume for her to wear to her school’s Fright Night tonight. At 13, she is just about the same size as I am, so she needs an adult costume, rather than a child’s costume. After looking at the costumes available, she said, “well, it looks like I’m stuck with being a prisoner, because everything else is ‘slutty police officer’, ‘sexy nun’ ‘sleezy alien’ and stuff like that.”
And she’s right. What the fuck? Do they really think that every female over the age of 8 wants to wear a tight costume with a top cut down to her navel, and a skirt that shows her woo-ha?
cicely:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Thanks, Giliell and Tigger. :)
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I’ve always felt that babies, like other meats, need to be removed from the oven a bit before they actually look done, since they will continue to cook for a while, thereafter. Hence, the usual “unfinished” look to a newborn. Just let it set on the counter top for a bit before serving; it’ll be alright.
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Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 27th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Another day in the Redhead living a more normal life. She had me take her to a local Gem and Mineral show to purchase some “cheap” jewelery. She came home with earrings, pendants and chains, bracelets, and rings. Excuse, she is going to the Opera next week and needed to match the outfit…
First use of the handicapped parking placard, priceless. Boos to the motel for not having automatic doors on the entrance/exit to the convention area, and no unisex handicapped bathrooms (so I can go in and assist).
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Cicely,
Did you just say that DarkInfant is overcooked??
;)
Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 27th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
@Audley
could be worse. Could have come out half baked
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 27th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
True dat!
broboxley OT:
October 27th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Ahem, it’s booger like a lugie
http://www.luminomagazine.com/2004.10/spotlight/nerds/boogert.html
3rd picture down. A booger is a drier piece of nasal mucus. While one can always flick a booger it’s best to hork a lugie.
cicely:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Audley, certainly not! She is, in fact just right. Well done. Ready to serve.
:)
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Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine":
October 27th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
@Cicely
Ugh I just went from the stories of cannibal cop to that…mood whip lash
carlie:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Yay Nerd! It’s so good to hear that there’s been so much progress.
Our cat lost almost 15% of her body weight when we brought home the first baby, and never gained it back. She was a bit, um, high-strung for awhile.
Improbable Joe:
October 27th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
THERE’S GOOD EATING ON A FETUS!!!!!!
broboxley OT:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
#200 Improbable Joe you misspelled THARS
chigau (棒や石):
October 27th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
I just wish that getting old didn’t hurt so much.
Dhorvath, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
I’ll take it over the alternative.
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Our kitty is old too. Old and has heart disease. Heart disease, like the vet said, “Take him home, snuggle him, feed him tuna,” etc. Say goodbye in short. I have had the fire burning for seven days straight, he so loves to sit by a good burn.
cicely:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
And he probably should have said, “eatin’”.
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John Morales:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Dhorvath, ack.
(Ponderings upon mortality are our privilege, and bittersweet is the best we can hope for)
My sympathy is yours.
Dhorvath, OM:
October 27th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Thanks John. It’s nice to have.
cicely:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:03 am
*hugs* for Dhorvath and kitteh.
I love my Bitsy-cat…but I still miss Midnight.
:(
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Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:02 am
Does your voice sound different?
I think my voice sounds different when I listen to a recording of it (compared to listening to the words as I speak). This idea sounds intriguing.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:03 am
Dhorvath:
I’m sorry to hear about your cat. Those little felines are wonderful pets.
John Morales:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:15 am
[TMI]
Tony @208, alas I sound like a ‘wog’ to Aussies y como un extranjero a los Españoles.
(but only in reality, not in my thoughts)
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:30 am
Good morning
So, Hurricane on the East coast, Tsunami on the West coast. I hope you’re all safe.
Also, talking about smaller disasters, end of Dayligh Savings Time, a totally useless thing that means major mayhem in all families with small children.
Audley
Welcome home !
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Pets:
Best wishes to all your old pets. My sister had to put her dog down this week. No way too early, if you ask me, the poor lad was 18 years old, almost deaf and blind.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:43 am
The first time I heard that word, shortly after arriving in Adelaide, I was completely horrified. A word that is just as evil in the UK as the ‘n’ word is in the US, and used as a slur against the same people. Then, immediately, I was confused; the person being attacked with the racial slur was as white as his detractors. It was a long time, witnessing many similar incidents, before I was able to work out what on Earth was going on (given that I couldn’t exactly ask, as that would have involved saying the word).
For some reason that still escapes me, some European Australians use racial slurs against other European Australians whose ancestry is from a different European country. That particular word is applied, inexplicably, to Italians.
John Morales:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:55 am
Tigger, when I first arrived in Adelaide*, I went to St. Thomas primary.
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* 1972.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 28th, 2012 at 5:34 am
When I first arrived in Adelaide, in 2005, the twins went to Magill Primary. The local Catholic school was full. For which I am now, of course, extremely grateful. As are my atheist twins. =^_^=
opposablethumbs:
October 28th, 2012 at 5:35 am
I hate the end of daylight saving time :((((
Makes no significant difference in the morning, and means that evenings are now night :(((((
I haz a SAD
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 5:41 am
opposablethumbs
My word.
And I need to keep the kids up tonight past their usual bedtime so we can get back into the “rhythm”.
carlie:
October 28th, 2012 at 7:03 am
I see what you did there.
It’s next week here in the States, because the legislators FINALLY realized a few years ago that changing the time to make it dark earlier the week before children went streaming onto the streets to demand candy was stupid.
Dhorvath, I’m really sorry. We lost our cat last year, and it’s so hard.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 28th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Good morning, everyone!
ImaginesABeach:
October 28th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Good morning Audley.
mildlymagnificent:
October 28th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Tigger, that brought back memories. Magill was one of the schools we looked at for ours in the mid-late eighties, but we didn’t send the kids there. Can’t remember why. They went to Norwood Primary – the head teacher at the time was certainly a nice bloke. (Might have been because day care for the preschooler was literally across the road then.)
So St Joseph’s at Tranmere was full in 2005? Didn’t know that.
chigau (棒や石):
October 28th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Good morning.
It’s snowing here and -7°C.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 28th, 2012 at 8:33 am
There’s some rainy snow/snowy rain here, at 3°C. Just the right weather to make me want to sleep the day away.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 28th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Bah. Snow. It’s 55° here and cloudy. Not bad, in other words.
It’s really starting to look like we’re going to miss the worst that Sandy has to offer. Yay! But :( for those who won’t.
Jadehawk:
October 28th, 2012 at 8:40 am
snowing and 24F/-4C (15F/-10C with windchill)
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 28th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Good morning, Audley. How did the DarkInfant sleep last night? Hell, did the DarkInfant sleep last night?
10/10ths cloud cover, light mist, 55F. Wind is starting to pick up. Looks like Sandy will pass to our south and then head north on our west side. Which means shitloads of rain and an extended (24-30 hours) wind event. Should be fun*.
Wife and I realized that we have reached the point at which the only radio we actually have is the one in the car. Once the cable and internet give out, I suspect I will spend time in the car listening to the radio.
* For a given definition of fun.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls:
October 28th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Good morning. Ghosties and ghoulies will be around this afternoon, temperature low 40′s with mild wind. The Redhead will be out spreading potential tooth decay dressed as a handicapped pumpkin. Now to sort the loot into several bags. Might have to do a quality control check on some.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 28th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Oggie,
At the moment, DarkInfant is a decent sleeper and an excellent nurser. :) She slept for about 2 hours at a time for almost 8 hours last night. We got up at about 7:00 for a diaper change and a cup of coffee, then we both had a little snooze on the couch.
Nerd:
Yay for the Redhead! Your updates on her progress make me happy– please give her my continued wishes for better and better strength and coordination.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 28th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Audley:
Fantastic.
That’s the way Girl was as a baby. For the first week, she slept off and on in 8-hour chunks and started sleeping all the way through the night at 1 week. Boy was a different story. He was on an 8-hour awake and screaming followed by 3 hours of sleep followed by 8-hours awake and screaming for the first three months. Oddly, the first night he slept all the way through was the same night I got home from the Army.
Enjoy snoozing and snuggling.
Oh. And helping her plot to take over the world, of course.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Fuck
I have a very bad toothache.
There’s always the possibilty that a tooth is “upset” after a root canal. There’s also the possibility that a tooth needs to go. I’m only mightily pissed should the tooth decide to go after we did three sessions to save it and that it hurts like hell now. Also my denitist’s is closed next week.
Shit.
Audley
That’s good. #1 was a pain in the ass when it came to sleeping. The little one was much better. I was the latest pic on your blog. Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
More pics?
Awwwww
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Mormons fuck with Halloween, turning into a mormon Fall Festival: the text sent out to members of the LDS Church, via Ward email lists (in my area at least), reads, in part:
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
“Uplifting Costume Parade”?
I’m guessing they don’t consider zombies and monsters uplifting.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am
OK, I’m not going to be brave and stuipd, I just called the emergency dentist. Painkiller did absolutely nothing for the tooth….
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Codpieces and underwire brassieres.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Ex-mormons on the Recovery from Mormonism forum routinely cycle back to the issue of the Vietnam War, and of Romney’s mission in France that kept him out of the war. Today, an ex-mo brought up a detail I hadn’t considered before.
Neck-snapping change of subject, prepare yourself.
Hordes of little mormons running around my neighborhood in codpieces and/or push-up brassieres would be entertaining. Even better if both uplifting costume pieces are worn by the same kid. Aren’t there even devices or pieces of clothing designed to boost one’s ass?
And then there’s always Patricia’s polished brass bustier.
Ogvorbis: broken and cynical:
October 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Thank you, Lynna. That shoudl haev been “Codpieces, bustiers and bustles.” Oh, my!
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:03 am
These would be the same Republicans who feature children in their anti-gay marriage videos.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I’m not up to speed on [Lounge] contents, as usual, so forgive me if this has already been posted:
That’s Inquirer Television Writer, Lee Winfrey reviewing The Wizard of Oz.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:14 am
NASA’s time-lapse video of Hurricane Sandy:
http://gawker.com/5955458/nasas-time+lapse-video-of-hurricane-sandy-is-terrifying-beautiful
My daughter lives in a part of Manhattan that will probably flood.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson states the obvious:
http://gawker.com/5955445/former-colin-powell-aide-states-the-obvious-my-party-is-full-of-racists
Video at the link.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:26 am
So, the New York Times has endorsed Obama. And the New York Post has endorsed Romney. The NY Post wasn’t satisfied with one endorsement editorial. Oh, no. They published twelve anti-Obama editorials to back up their endorsement. The editorials are right-wing red meat, including rants about Obama’s “radical agenda,” the “cost of ObamaCare,” supposed lies the President told, and a doozy by John Bolton on the Nobel Peace Prize. There’s more, including an editorial that rests on calling the President “pathetic” … you get the idea.
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Firstly, everyone in the line of Sandy, stay safe.
Secondly, I got i a debate with my my mom about religion that ended with her stating, “why are you atheists so angry?”
Needless to say since I did the only thing I could think of and said, read this book by Greta Christina.
Here’s to hoping she actually reads it. Once she decided I was angry, (I wasn’t for the record, I was passionate) she completely stopped listening to what I was saying.
I hope it answers her questions better than I can. Especially since she was Gish galloping me with more canards than I can even remember.
*sigh*
carlie:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I feel stupidly paranoid – we are in the next-out layer from the storm path, and previous storms have always ended up passing us by, but I went ahead and went out for a few things anyway in case we lose power. The Wal-Mart was a madhouse, even on Sunday morning. They were out of stuff like water gallons and propane already. I have some water, some canned food, some dry mixes, crackers, etc. We could go probably 4 days without power if we needed to. We have a wood stove, so we can use it for cooking and heating if needed.
And we’ll probably only get 2 inches of rain and a few branches down. But hey, I can eat the food for lunches the next couple of weeks. Hope everyone in the actual path is prepared.
Rey Fox:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I don’t get it. When someone’s angry, that’s when they should be listened to.
Thing is, people who say things like this, I highly doubt that they’re anti-anger on principle, the anger just needs to come from the right points of view.
dianne:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Small one was a terrible sleeper as a baby and is still not that great at it. I’m starting to look forward to her teenage years…Eh, who am I kidding? She’ll be the insomniac teenager type who plays moody music until 3 am.
We’re as prepared as we’ll ever be for Sandy. If it’s really an Irene sized storm, there’ll be no problem where we are. If it’s larger…who knows? I’m more worried about power and water outages than any direct storm damage to the house itself at this point.
@238: The Wizard of Oz is pretty unwholesome when you look at it too closely: not only the two killings, but also theft, illicit use of opiates, bullying an old man, and un-IACUC approved genetic manipulation of monkeys all appear at one time or another…
Emrysmyrddin:
October 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I’ve had a few friends on FB post pics of the water, slowly encroaching further and further up their streets. Stay safe, everyone x
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Hope you’re all warm and dry.
I still have my tooth minus the root canal fillings.
It should get better now, according to the dentist, and it damn better has to because at the moment I have toothache and a numb tongue because the anaesthetics didn’t work any more, of course. Except on my tongue…
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LOL
Never looked at it like that.
We’re currently reading a Russian version of it as a bedtime story.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Looks like my daughter will have to evacuate ahead of Hurricane Sandy. she lives in Battery Park City in lower Manhattan.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Lyanna
Hope she can crash with friends or family.
Best wishes to her.
blogofmyself:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Lynna:
Best wishes to your daughter. I hope that she is safe and that evacuating is as stress-free as possible.
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Emrysmyrddin:
Eep. That would make me very nervous. I hope that they are all safe.
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carlie:
Hey, it’s better to be too prepared than not prepared enough. Besides, crackers are tasty with or without the hurricane.
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Audley:
That newest picture is just too cute. I’m glad that you are all safe, happy, and getting plenty of sleep.
broboxley OT:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Lynna, hope daughter evacs safely, I guess mass transit will be shutting down shortly
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
7 pm, Brob.
Note that pressure is down to 951-ish mb is Sandy. That’s 8 from last night. She’s getting more powerful.
If government agencies tell you to evacuate, Do It.
Carlie: You needn’t be thinking of yourself as paranoid. We haven’t seen this type of storm before, and it’s a sensible precaution to stock up, even if you may not be in the direct path.
dianne:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Small one’s school announced that they’ll be closing Monday. The mayor hasn’t started any evacuations, but has said, “run everybody!” to those in low lying areas (that is, has suggested that people get out of flood prone areas…)
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
My daughter does have friends in a non-flood zone of Manhattan. I just talked to her on the phone. She’s packing now, and she is taking the ingredients for homemade mac & cheese so that she can make comfort food for everyone at her friend’s house. She can catch a taxi to her destination — that’s if the subway system is shut down. If all else fails, she can even walk to her destination.
She didn’t seem stressed. This emergency is less stressful than having terrorists fly planes into buildings near her apartment building.
She made sure her iPhone is charged. We wouldn’t want this little weather event to interrupt our Words With Friends game.
Her husband can help carry necessities and their little dog.
I keep trying to get my daughter to rifle through the closet of the male half of her couple of friends. I mean, she’s there overnight. A little borrowing of his sartorially magnificent shirts should be fine, right? He has a black cotton shirt that is embossed with a subtle pattern and that has pink-lined cuffs and collar.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Thunk,
I love having an amateur meteorologist around!*
Actually, I’m kind of surprised we have no regulars who are professional meteorologists. I mean, if anyone is going to deny the existence of God, it’s weather forecasters.
*Were you thinking of studying meteorology in college? I hear that the University at Albany has a decent program… ;)
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):
October 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Lynna,
Good luck to your daughter– it’s good to hear that she’s got everything well in hand.
Mattir:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Well, I have kindling, 3 wheelbarrow loads of seasoned white oak firewood, 20 gallons of gas for the generator, enough batteries to power our weather radio and headlamps for a couple of weeks, 2-1/2 pounds of dark chocolate from Trader Joe, plenty of food, a full house propane tank, topped up air pressure in the well’s huge water tank, full tanks of gas in both cars, 20 gallons of bottled water, and cleaned gutters. We took down the scariest large tree around the house last spring, and while there are a bunch of others that could fall on us, I’m not so worried about them. I’ve checked on several elderly neighbors, done a sweep around the yard for loose stuff that could get blown about, and made the kids empty all the house trash cans and compost pail. Given that my mother has always managed to be both hyper paranoid AND strangely incompetent and unprepared for weather emergencies, I am really really proud of myself for striking a sensible, non panicked middle ground in which I am fairly calm, know I’ve done what I can, have emergency evacuating plans in case we have an encounter with a tree, and am looking forward to seeing the Mattir Fambilly remaining calm and competent. Perhaps we’ll choose a good read-aloud book to enjoy during the next few days. And I will spin a whole bunch of yarn, which is also good.
thunk, Blob Alert!:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Audley:
Yes, I am thinking of this. Thanks for the tip.
Lynna, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
All of which you can do without electricity. Just think of the number of people who may decide to read a book!
Hope springs eternal as far the books go. I may be completely wrong on that score. I still clearly remember the most memorable moment from my many book-signing events. A young couple, male and female, walk up to my table. The female glances briefly at the photo on the cover. The young man says, “Do you want me to buy that for you?” The young woman answers, “No. I already have a book.”
Not “this book,” and not “a book like this,” but “a book.” Well, I’m glad she’s all set then.
broboxley OT:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
a book harruph, I have 8 bookcases in the house 6 of them filled with books one with vcr tapes and one 1/3 filled with encyclopedias. It will be full as soon as I get some free time to sort my double stacked shelves upstairs.
cm's changeable moniker:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Just logged in to work to check on storm preparations. Apparently, one floor of CorporateHQ™ got flooded already.
During “routine maintenance”, someone activated the sprinklers.
*facepalm*
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Seriously, though, if you’re in Sandy’s way, stay safe.
blogofmyself:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Totally off-topic, but I saw this and needed to share:
What Male And Female Scientists Say About Women In Science
Women are apparently bad at math and physics! Oh my goodness, I’m so glad I know. I’ll make sure I stop tutoring astronomy right away. Obviously my male students must be better at it than I am anyway. I’ll call up the AP Board and tell them they must have scored my calculus exam wrong, since there is not way I got such a good score. I’ll make sure I stay away from science from now on, since it’s just too difficult for my poor little lady-brain.
The best part is that some of these statements come from professors. And they wonder why more women don’t choose to work in the STEM fields.
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
This is *rich*.
Ed Brayton gets a godbot who respects Michelle Malkin
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
re: Wizard of Oz:
One of my favorite writers, Peter David wrote a column some years ago called But I Digress. In one particular entry, he rips apart The Wizard of Oz in a way I’d never thought of:
Tony–Queer Duck Overlord of The Bronze–:
October 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I hope everyone in the path of Sandy remains safe and sound. As I drove to work yesterday across the 3 Mile Bridge, I noticed the waters in the Gulf looking extremely choppy. Then I remembered that Sandy has effects that are reaching significantly farther than the main storm.
Nutmeg:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
*rage flail*
I went into biology because I like it, not because my puny pink lady-brain can’t handle numbers, asshat.
(I would have minored in math, but my university’s math department has a reputation for hiring profs whose spoken English is so terrible that students can’t learn from them. And that’s on top of the mediocre-at-best teaching and giant class sizes that are standard in first and second year. I miss numbers, now.)
carlie:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
My kid’s high school just announced they’re doing the Wizard of Oz in the spring. And for the Kansas parts, they’re dressing the whole cast in grayscale, including makeup. Can’t wait.
Giliell, Approved Straight Chorus:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Re: Wizard of Oz
She has much more spirit in the Russian version. There she melts the wicked witch because she is angry at her .
In good news, the toothache gets less. Not gone, but the permanent pain is gone.
And I can eat mac ‘n cheese
cm's changeable moniker:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Mundford & Sons fans? Click here, right now, and click “Listen Live”.
That link’s going to make no sense once the programme ends. :-/
cazfans:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
People need to remember that when cell phone towers go down and your cell phone keeps looking for them and not finding them it uses up battery pretty quickly. Best to have and agreed times to power up and check. Of course if the towers remain up & working this won’t be such a problem.
Markita Lynda—threadrupt:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Tigger_the_Wing @165,
I’m so glad to hear you had a Very Good Day and the promise of many more. Keep on truckin’!
ibyea:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
The stupid thing about that statement on biology is that you do need math and logic for it. Anyone who says that about biology doesn’t know what they are talking about.
dianne:
October 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
About 75% or so of my papers in-gasp-a subfield of biology known as “medicine” are essentially programming/math papers. you can’t get away without math in biology. Got to admit I’m pretty bad at abstract algebra though. Lost concentration somewhere after theoretical calculus and never really regained it.
carlie:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Why is it that people are routinely considered to be stupid if they aren’t good at math, but being bad at writing and spelling is worn like a badge of honor?
dianne:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Because traditionally men are considered more likely to be good at math and bad at language?
Beatrice, anti-imperialist anti-racist Islamophobiaphobic leftist:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
In scientific circles or in general?
Because I often encounter people who wear their “I never did well at math” as a badge of honor. That’s after I get the surprised double take when they find out I’m a weirdo who studied math.
kristinc is writing a book called "50 Shades of STFU":
October 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
In the movie, Dorothy melts the witch on accident while trying to put out the Scarecrow. In the book, she throws the water at the witch in a fit of temper after having been mistreated for a while. IIRC, in the book she also solves a handful of problems on their journey. Didn’t L Frank Baum write the book for a young female acquaintance of his? Maybe he understood girls a little better than so many men of his generation.
dianne:
October 28th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
In the later Oz books, a MTF gender changed child becomes queen of Oz and is the actual ruler, not just the figurehead. These books, for some reason, never got made into movies…
carlie:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Beatrice – I guess I’m thinking of the “I’ve never been good at spelling” retort, and the reliance on spellcheck, etc. I guess most people are defensive about whatever it is they’re not good at.
Markita Lynda—threadrupt:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Audley @178, I still remember our cat sitting up on its hind legs to peer apprehensively at the new baby without touching the bassinette.
Dhorvath @203, so sorry to hear about your old cat. It’s hard to say goodbye.
Tony @208, things do sound different from inside your head, because you’re hearing both by bone conduction through your skull and through the air. Usually it sounds lower and richer. I’m always dismayed at how high and childish my voice sounds.
Lynna, OM, @231, I want an Uplifting Costume, too!
Markita Lynda—threadrupt:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES @242
I hate that. Tell her that if your rights are being threatened, you should be passionate.
Is “FREEZE PEACHES” a reminder to yourself or us?
Ichthyic:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Why is it that people are routinely considered to be stupid if they aren’t good at math, but being bad at writing and spelling is worn like a badge of honor?
huh, it was exactly the opposite when i was a kid.
everyone was “expected” to be bad at math, but if you were a poor writer, reader, or speller, you were considered a bit on the dim side.
interesting.
Markita Lynda—threadrupt:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mattir @257, I trust that your firewood is under cover so it will stay dry.
Carlie, you’re going to have lots of water if you can put a pot out in the rain.
Tigger_the_Wing:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
mildlymagnificent
It was particularly disappointing because (a) it was literally just round the corner from the place we were renting, whereas Magill was quite a long walk away; (b) I went to a St. Joseph’s R.C. Primary school myself, and the name made me feel nostalgic; and (c) I really thought, at the time, that a Catholic education was pretty decent even though I was already having great issues with the church itself. Magill, to my mind, was ludicrously large for a primary school. A sign outside claimed that something like 65 different languages were spoken by the families of students. The twins were put into a class of 34, in a year with three classes of similar size, having just come from a school with a grand total of 2 teachers and 15 students aged from 4 to 12. (Their year group, 5 students, was by far the biggest; when they left in June the school was finally closed as too small).
Of course, the twins were feeling disappointed for a different reason. We had moved to Ireland in 2000, where they discovered that they would have to stay on at primary school for an extra year compared to all the friends they had left back in England (where the change to secondary schools happens at 11+ instead of 12+). Then we come to Australia and find that their final school year ends in December instead of June. They were complaining that they’d never get to secondary school! They did, of course; despite the apparent (to pre-teens) interminable extra 18 months of primary. They went to Norwood Morialta for a couple of years, then we moved to Canberra. Poor kids. They’ve attended six/seven different schools in three different countries (one twin didn’t do years 11 and 12 which, in Canberra, are usually held in separate ‘colleges’ to high school).
Funny-ish story: at first, their new classmates at Magill refused to believe they were even related, let alone twins. Firstly, they look nothing alike and secondly, despite five years in Ireland Number 3 Son still had an English accent whereas Number 4 Son had picked up quite a strong Irish one. =^_^=
chigau (棒や石) and Markita Lynda—threadrupt
Thank you! =^_^= It is so good to be off the downward spiral and on an upward one! Astonishingly, despite not getting much sleep Saturday night (between Hubby’s snoring, Number 3 Son playing an online game in the adjacent bedroom which required(!) chat and laughter all night and hubby’s laptop’s standby light doing its weird dim-to-bright-enough-to-read-by-to-dim routine*, it’s amazing I finally nodded off at all) I managed to get up at the usual time on Sunday and had a morning out with hubby after dropping Number 4 Son and his friend off at archery. However, when we got back I fell sound asleep on the balcony sofa for the afternoon!
*Last night, in frustration, I put a foil sticker over it. Bliss!
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
Yay for more good news about the Redhead!
Tigger waves pom-poms
*\ =^_^= /*
I love the idea of a pumpkin wheelchair! I’m currently collecting materials to turn mine into a Davros chair. I need to get my skates on, because there’s only 26 days until the event I need it for!
Everyone in Sandy’s path
Stay safe! I still hope it fizzles out and doesn’t do the damage forecast.
Dhorvath, OM:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
While I hope that Sandy fizzles as well, I am pleased that people are taking it seriously. Big weather is never small news. Take care if you are in the area.
Rawnaeris, FREEZE PEACHES:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
@Markita Lynda, freeze peaches just cracked me up on the last free speech thread. Its part of my nym for the giggles.
Ichthyic:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Lost concentration somewhere after theoretical calculus and never really regained it.
Ditto. After 2 years of Statistics (applied and theoretical), which I felt was the bare minimum necessary to have a good grasp on what was needed for the best design of field experiments, I decided I likely should also have an understanding of advanced linear algebra (matrices being the main reason).
boy was I wrong about that. I think I slept through 3/4 of that course.
…and this, coming from someone as just mentioned having taken 2 YEARS of statistics!
These days, you can pretty well just use modelling and analysis software on your ‘puter to friggen’ to design your experiments and analyze them, no maths or statistics knowledge needed.
still, I don’t think all that statistics modelling was a waste. I find I have a much broader vision and can at least argue with journal reviewers that disagree with my results because they didn’t like the models used, etc.
It’s resulted in publications that otherwise wouldn’t have been if I had to rely on saying something like: “Well, that’s what SAS said to use!”
PZ Myers:
October 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
NEW THREAD.