Let’s begin with the mundane, normal response, because this is how I’d reply. Obama said in an interview that he believed aliens existed.
…former President Obama piqued the interest of many Americans when he said on a separate podcast last month that aliens were “real,” but he had not seen them, and they were not being held at Area 51.
Obama attempted to walk back his comments the next day, saying that he “saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made contact with us.”
“I was trying to stick with the spirit of the speed round, but since it’s gotten attention, let me clarify. Statistically, the universe is so vast that the odds are good there’s life out there,” Obama said in a post on Instagram.
That’s not “walking back,” that’s just clarifying a statement that he had initially assumed no one would be nuts enough to misinterpret. I also believe that there almost certainly alien intelligent organisms somewhere in the immense universe. There’s nothing magical about life, or intelligence. But I agree with Obama that there is no evidence of aliens, and that it is only a hypothetical likelihood.
Every scientist I know would agree with it. Typically, only some religious cranks argue that it’s not possible for aliens to exist. Of course, there are other cranks who argue that aliens have been visiting us already.
President Trump pledged a few days later to direct the Department of Defense and other agencies to release their files about UFOs and “alien and extraterrestrial life” to the public, citing the “tremendous” interest.
He previously told reporters he did not know if aliens were real and that he “may get him out of trouble” by declassifying records, referring to Obama.
The White House registered the domain names “Alien.gov” and “Aliens.gov” earlier this month, drawing speculation that information could be released soon.
I eagerly await the news from aliens.gov. Not holding my breath though.
And then there are the total wackos who believe aliens exist, but that they are supernatural beings.
JD Vance, the vice-president of the United States, said this weekend that he considers aliens to be “demons”.
With the war in Iran continuing, petrol and grocery prices soaring, and chaos continuing at US airports as a partial government shutdown endures, Vance appeared on the conservative Benny Show podcast, released on Saturday, to promise that he would spend time looking into what he called his “obsession” with UFOs and extraterrestrial visitors.
Johnson, who bills his show as the place for “cutting, behind-the-scenes insight into the global conflict for freedom”, wondered if Vance, who has been noticeably quiet about Donald Trump’s war in the Middle East that he is said to oppose, had yet looked at any of the files about unidentified flying objects – known these days as unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) – which the president has promised to release.
“I actually haven’t,” Vance replied, mustering significantly more enthusiasm than for any previous question about the US-Israel military strikes on Iran.
“I have not been able to spend enough time on this, but I am going to. Trust me, I’m obsessed with this.”
This is inarguable evidence that the intellectual ability of our political leaders declined precipitously between Obama and Vance.
Let’s make sure looney JD never gets to the presidency, OK?
Noah, Heath and Eli have already dissected this BS in God Awful Movies.
Gam196 “Alien Intrusion: Unmasking a Deception”
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=llUWbX4M618
Okay, so let’s approach this whole “do demons exist?” thing scientifically.
First step is to set down the characteristics that a “demon” should have, a bit afield of the usual “is it live? characteristics”, but the same general idea.
Not having a corporeal body
Only acting through normal humans, typically by rewarding/threatening them.
Potentially immortal
Lacking moral and ethical sense.
Capable of acting in many distant places at once.
Created by a few initiates in private ceremonies, involving dead languages.
SURE they exist! It’s just that we call them CORPORATIONS.
…and Republicans worship them.
A demon by any other name would be as foul.
The alien imposter in the government will stand out by being weirder than real humans.
(processing)
Goddamit, are they all aliens?
Snarki @ 2
Applauds!
Starting a war with Iran to distract from the Epstein crimes and the economic crisis you’ve created not working out very well JD?
I doubt anyone is going to find stories about aliens particularly diverting when they can’t afford gasoline or food now.
‘The Smoking Man’ in ‘The X Files’ would be a reassuring presence today – at least somebody is in charge and knows what he is doing!
Tethys, “Starting a war with Iran to distract from the Epstein crimes and the economic crisis you’ve created not working out very well JD?”
Wrong sycophant. He’s kinda not happy with it.
If he truly wasn’t happy he should be exercising one of his few enumerated duties and invoking the 25 amendment to remove the dementia patient from office.
Also, a naked linked YouTube video to the Washington Post? Ugh, that’s utter garbage compared to the videos Birgir shared.
New York Post, not the Washington Post. Damn allergy meds make me fuzzy brained.
And then there are the total wackos who believe aliens exist, but that they are supernatural beings.
JD Vance, the vice-president of the United States, said this weekend that he considers aliens to be “demons”.
Feels like they are flooding the zone with more BS.
Nothing the slightest bit original about that belief.
The fundie xians have been saying for decades that UFOs are real and piloted by demons.
The evidence for this is nonexistent but lack of proof or data has never stopped them from believing anything.
Vance, which even isn’t his original name, is unlikeable for many reasons.
One of which is that he is a completely hollow person. No real values, no redeeming features, no morality or ethics. There doesn’t seem to be any core personality except that Vance wants more power and money and will do anything to get it.
JD is literally a heartbeat away from the presidency right now
The heartbeat of a man in his 80s
Not a reassuring thought
Sorry, make that ‘on the very verge of his 80s’
Tsk, Tethys.
“Also, a naked linked YouTube video to the Washington Post? [New York Post, not the Washington Post. Damn allergy meds make me fuzzy brained.] Ugh, that’s utter garbage compared to the videos Birgir shared.”
Your opinion is duly noted (heh, FWTW), but you picked on the wrong sycophant warwise, and I linked to a primary source (actual footage) showing just that. The dynamics are not obscure.
Anyway.
The video is the video; that the source is X rather than Y matters not so long as it’s genuine and the relevant content.
You wrote (and I quote verbatim) “Starting a war with Iran to distract from the Epstein crimes and the economic crisis you’ve created not working out very well JD?”
Thing is, JD Vance lowkey has a well‑documented record of opposing to a U.S. war with Iran, but since entering the Trump administration he has publicly aligned himself with the war while privately remaining skeptical.
e.g. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-13/jd-vance-philosophically-little-bit-different-to-me-trump-says/106449548
(The relevant dude is the Christian Zionist warmonger with the Crusader Deus‑Vult aesthetic evangelical hardline Anti‑Islam polemicist — the dude that changed ‘Department of Defense’ to ‘Department of War’)
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It is an actual recording of actual events. Not speculative shite. A factual depiction.
(Hey, you can blame the meds!)
Ye John, it’s a recording of propaganda, and is as valid as those aliens.
Nobody cares what JD thinks. He is a tool.
“Ye John, it’s a recording of propaganda, and is as valid as those aliens.”
Heh heh heh. It’s factual. It’s a recording of what happened.
Not opinion. Not a lie. An actual recording of what was actually said by the actors at hand.
You claim JD Vance was the war initiator, and when I point out the actual dynamic you say it’s propaganda.
You wrote (and I quote verbatim)
It is most remarkably stupid of you to think JD started this war.
(I know, I know. You don’t actually believe that, it was your propaganda)
(It’s not even propaganda!)
Agree completely with Obama. And that it was a clarification, not a “walk back”.
There is almost certainly life elsewhere in the universe, but there is no evidence that aliens have communicated with us or have visited this planet. I would go even further. We have found no signs of alien life despite systematically searching for evidence with the best technology available.
Yes, lets do that please!
Except, well, how?
How do we remove Vance from power now especially given the mid-terms are highly likely to be rigged or cancelled?
How can we do that?
A former physics professor who worked at SMSU that was a friend of my family once sat me down and lectured me on how aliens and UFOs were actually demons. He was also working on a cold fusion machine shortly before he retired, he said it would be very unlikely to function, but if it did, it would blow up the campus. Quite an interesting person, he passed away a few years ago.
Purple Lifeform Photographed Sprouting ‘Tentacles’ on The ISS
Vance’s response is truly wacky. Let’s get a response from someone sane.
Avi Loeb reacts to JD Vance’s belief aliens are ‘demons’
Never mind.
The recently deceased con-artist Erich von Däniken claimed to believe the opposite to Vance: demons are aliens.
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blockquote> It is most remarkably stupid of you to think JD started this war.<\blockquote>
It is remarkably stupid that a) you posted a link to a tabloid b) criticized Birger over your personal preferences while not holding yourself to that standard, and C) you deliberately fail to understand basic human communication on the regular. ( oh so smart is the John)
JD is babbling about aliens in a futile attempt to distract from the War and Epstein. He doesn’t get the option of distancing himself from the string of colossal failures created by this administration.
@17. chrislawson : “We have found no signs of alien life despite systematically searching for evidence with the best technology available.”
So far.
Hmm.. Maybe that’s what SETI is getting wrong?
Perhaps instead of trying to find Extraterrestrial Intelligences with radio telecsopes astronomers (?) should try using Ouija boards and playing D& D or whatever is suppsoedly the portal to demons these days instead?
Hello Dr Arroway, what’s that look for?!
StevoR @ 25
Looking for weird stuff with Ouija boards? I have a link for you that is oddly apt for these times
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=jmjLNDobZqM
The dude with boots is Nigel Farage, Brit ‘Orange guy’ wannabee.
If the UFOs contain the relatives of David Bowie I do not mind (If you have seen the film, you know).
And if they contain the demon friends of the dude in the LA nightclub with a british accent, I don’t mind either.
Real interstellar tech would likely include micro-and nanotech. The idea of big, bulky noisy stuff crewed by biological entities makes no sense.
But supernatural entities is even more lazy thinking. It makes the former jewel thief (Däniken) look original.
Silver lining. If King Ubu keels over, you get a president that has no charisma, and everyone will see how ridiculous he is (except the hardest core of MAGA, but they will no longer be numerous enough to play a major role).
“President demon-saucer” will be a good nickname.
Releasing all the military UAP/UFO reports to the public is not going to be a good look for the military. Last time the Pentagon declassified those three videos that had already been floating around on the Internet, all it did was reveal service members not knowing how to operate their equipment or read their instruments. Better to leave a vague sense of mystery than to confirm incompetence.
Why do cults always feature space travel?
If demons, are they local demons or alien demons?
Following this entirely ridiculous line of reasoning, it would seem somewhat likely that JD is a demon, as it does explain why such a creepy, morally bankrupt person can somehow be VP.
I would reasonably surmise that the vancehole was holding a mirror in front of his face when he was ranting about demons. Or maybe he was thinking about puppykiller noem’s husband being a crossdressing cuckold.
Doesn’t matter. If there is intelligent life out there, they certainly are intelligent enough to either avoid this trailer trash planet or they are playing sadistic games manipulating the weak minds of the magats.
And, I must conclude that SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) is a load of bovine excrement. I’m still waiting for the SFTI (Search for Terrestrial Intelligence) to find more than a (relative) handful of sapient beings here.
Piteous Tethys O so feisty:
“It is remarkably stupid that a) you posted a link to a tabloid b) criticized Birger over your personal preferences while not holding yourself to that standard, and C) you deliberately fail to understand basic human communication on the regular. ( oh so smart is the John)”
Are you back to harassing me? I will respond, you know. Have fun.
a) It’s the content, not the source;
b) It is a recording of real events, not hyperbolic/clickbaity speculative shite like much of his magpie collection; and
c) You project your incompetence onto me.
I kinda lost track of how many times people resort to that attempted mockery.
(I don’t have to be the smartest, just smarter than you :)
BTW, be aware of the difference between the vocative particle (O) and the interjection (Oh) — it will help you to not appear quite so ignorant.
Aliens do exist and their evil plans are well underway. They have installed their evil alien overlord into the White House and his underlings have gradually infiltrated key government posts, what used to be the Republican Party and a good portion of the Democrats. All with the aim of starting nuclear Armageddon, cleansing the planet of us inconvenient humans so they can plunder its resources without any opposition. They have appointed their biological warfare expert to run the health department and spread lies about vaccinations and disease control and to help spread the genetically engineered MAGA virus to build their mindless drone-robot MAGA Army while putting the Kegsbreath wrecking ball through the real military. Rise up before its too late. Now its time for me to take my tablets. Will it be the red one or the blue one?
In space, nobody can hear you rolling your eyes.
Artor, in normal circumstances, nobody can hear you rolling your eyes either.
(Under what circumstances can people hear you rolling your eyes?)
Correcting obvious jokes is a sad hobby.
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If correcting obvious jokes is a sad hobby, going on about it is even sadder.
(Heh heh heh)
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Since you essayed that, Tethys, was “Starting a war with Iran to distract from the Epstein crimes and the economic crisis you’ve created not working out very well JD?” an attempted joke?
(I mean, I did correct it)
How’s it go?
You clearly cared enough to post your little fabulation, stupid as it was.
Gotta love your attempted recalibration, too:
“JD is babbling about aliens in a futile attempt to distract from the War and Epstein.”
Nope. Not one bit.
He was doing an interview.
From the OP’s link:
He’s babbling about aliens because he got ASKED ABOUT ALIENS.
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How’s your attempted harassment of me going, then?
I haven’t forgotten, you know.
(You never did keep your promise properly, but this is potentially promising)
But hey, you are doing great! More of this, please!
@pz
This is, unfortunately, a dim hope. There seems to be signs of growing talk by the GOP of impeaching Trump. The problem is, he needs to be impeached for treason, which would trigger the part of the law that says all his appointed wackos, and those of “high office”, that landed in places with him (like Vance), go with him. If, and this is a huge if, this somehow took place once we have actual people, who would vote for it, in place once more, and it wasn’t the GOP in charge of deciding what the articles of impeachment will contain, this would be plausible (whether or not it would actually happen, I am a bit cynical of), but, if they push to do it before we have a non-GOP majority in charge of writing them up, and/or the GOP itself writes them up, then the articles will likely only go towards physical and mental decline, the inability to carry out duties, etc., and almost no one will got down with him, especially the evil nutjob whose religious madness makes him cosplay a racoon. This is very much not even close to an optimal outcome. I can see the GOP pushed headlines now, “Trump relieved of duty as strain of job leaves him unable to remain in office. Vance and team promise to forge ahead with his vision of America.” A lie, since its been Vance, et al, all along, but they get to blame liberals for Trump’s collapse, make him out to be some sort of hero, to the idiots that still believe in him, and double down on all of the evil madness they can, while throwing the public a few table scraps, to show that they are “fixing the few things that the poor man did, while under obvious and unfortunate strain, which where unwarranted.”, or some such bullshit.
A demon raccoon or an alien raccoon? It’s an amusing visualization either way.
This exists entirely in your obsessive imagination, just like your compulsive need to demand all commenters must conform to your preferences.
Judging by your multiple paragraphs of blathering on about your misconceptions, my tiny arrow hit the bullseye.
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Two lies by you, Tethys, comma-separated:
I told you, I remember.
Tethys:12 January 2026 at 3:54 pm
StevoR @25:
That did suffice to identify the Overlords’ homeworld…
Treating you the way you treat others is not harassment John. It’s negative conditioning.
Is that the same thread where PZ himself finally told you to shut the fuck up?
Ah, you are so cute, Tethys. Feisty, if not puissant.
Tethys:12 January 2026 at 3:54 pm
Heh heh heh.
Given that, it follows that I am not harassing others.
And since I have never ever told anyone I shall henceforth threadcop them, it follows you are not treating me the way I treat others.
So, another non-truthful claim by you.
(That is not opinion, that is analytic)
BTW, you clearly did not notice I wrote “attempted harassment”.
Like these efforts by you. I rather enjoy these.
I do like my disputation practice, especially when driven by others.
And I get to feel virtuous thereby.
Anyway, in your Walter Mitty world, you are being a proxy retaliator on behalf of other people, and whatever nasties you imagine I do, you will then do. A vengeance figure. My Nemesis!
Got it.
Heh. I put a live link there.
Why not look for yourself, instead of appealing to me for the info?