I think his own words definitively answer that question.
This is not the first time Trump has gone on a racist tirade. Anderson Cooper, and other non-Fox-News announcers are reasonably intelligent people who ought to be capable of recognizing this crap, I don’t know why they pretend it’s some strangely peculiar assertion.
Not that it matters, but at the turn of the previous century, all of AOC’s ancestors were living in America, while none of Trump’s family were.
Yes it is outrageous but then again this is the same guy who announced his presidency run by calling Mexican immigrants rapist and criminals with some “I suppose good people”.
In fact, the big blame lies with pathetic Democrats who tell him he can get away with anything, I’m looking at you fucking Nancy Pelosi. Put aside your stupid political calculator and do your fucking job.
Sorry PZ, Anderson Cooper, like all the contributors as CNN and MSNBC, we’re hired not to rock the boat and be cosy with power. The only reason they’re at all friendly with the “squad” or Elizabeth Warren is because they spent all kinds of airtime pretending to care about identity when Hillary was running. They can pretend to give a shit about these folks but the fact is throwing them under the bus was always part of the plan. Just like they’ll pull out the knives with Warren the second Sanders drops out, they’ve been waiting for the chance to take out the squad. If you in anyway threaten their power they’ll crush you at the first opportunity. Sure, they’ll play nice when it works (suddenly they’re enamoured with Warren because Bernie scares them so much more) and they act like they love AOC, but they’ll never forgive her for knocking out Joe Crowley. If the women/poc/lgbtq2saplus candidate is pro establishment, they’ll fight day and night to protect them and they absolutely would call the speech what it is, but if they’re people fighting for even modest change, they will be persona non grata. The leadership in that party needs to go.
I don’t take Anderson Cooper’s “How can you say that?” as necessarily disbelief. It could be, but more than that it’s mean to be “tell me more about why you believe Trump is a racist”. And AOC obliges: “When you look at the words that he uses, which are historic dog whistles of white supremacy. When you look at how he reacted to the Charlottesville incident, where neo-Nazis murdered a woman, versus how he manufactures crises like immigrants seeking legal refuge on our borders, it’s — it’s night and day.”
The simplest explanation is that Trump has always been racist. The convoluted conspiracy is that Trump only mobilizes racism but isn’t racist himself
Trump should share the wisdom of his people, by doing a fact-finding tour of Germany to tell us all how Bismarck instituted universal health care for all. So Donnie can tell us all how to do Medicare for All, like he essentially promised. Of course, everything he says is meaningless, and his party knows it, and feels no commitment to any of the ideas he pretended to campaign on. They never took him seriously, so why should anyone else?
Much of the supposedly liberal media beat the drums for war in Iraq. They covered AGW denialism as equal to science. When they’re not fluffing things up, and the frenetic news cycle makes causes undamped oscillation in their little bobble heads.
The have some bad habits because they haven’t advanced their profession to keep up with the times. For example…
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/06/25/when-npr-more-dangerous-fox-news#
and also this (you’ll need to take out the spaces I’ve added to the url–because moderator’s filter)…
https://www.juancole.com/2019/06/pres ident-m ent ally-ret a rded.html
Hmm, my comment at #6 above certainly needs cleaning up. Apologies.
Damn I’m groggy this morning.
Now the slug is calling for these for congresswomen to “apologize to our Country, the people of Israel and even to the Office of the President, for the foul language they have used, and the terrible things they have said…”
They should respond accordingly: “Fuck no.”
Akira, #8
I think the standard Democrat resistance consists of “Mr. President, you should be uniting America”.
Some people say that he is an opportunist instead of a racist. But,
An opportunistic racist is still a racist.
An opportunistic misogynist is still a misogynist.
An opportunistic fascist is still a fascist.
@10 SQB, that reminds me of the whole “it’s okay, they’re just trolling, they’re just pretending to be bigoted” argument. I can’t remember who said it but I always liked the “if you’re going around pretending to be a racist you aren’t pretending.
Well, it is true that these “Democrat Congresswomen” [sic] do come from countries – or rather, a country – whose government is a complete and total disaster, and while it may not be the most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world, it certainly is notably corrupt and inept… The head of that corrupt, inept government? One Donald J. Trump.
As for fixing the broken, crime-infested places from which they came… That’s exactly what they’re trying to do.
Saad @ 9
Under whose desk are those tweets being made? Pelosi or Schumer’s?
To quote Trump on these congresswomen, ‘telling the people of the United States… how our government is to be run’
This is not some weird midnight rant. No cofeves, no grammatical errors. This was well thought out racism. He said women, so he can’t be just talking about Omar, who is obviously a US citizen and member of Congress… who better to have a say in how the government is run? Maybe Putin. Doesn’t matter, she is not one of us.
As for the other progressive democratic congresswomen he must be referring to I’d like to see a Trump and/or his supporters deny he was talking about the following women:
Tlaib, a native born US citizen who is an Arab, so presumably not one of us. Worst of all, a Palestinian Arab, so one without money and critical of Israel – what could be worse? And what country is she to go back to? Palestine is not allowed to be a country.
AOC, who has ancestors with US citizenship for longer than Trump himself, but knows Spanish and has a funny Latinx name, so not one of us? Only country she can go back to is that of her ancestors…. the USA.
Pressley, who is black and a native born US citizen, in one of the most vicious acts of racism from this president yet, is not one of us and needs to go back home? Pray tell which country she should go back to? Which country were her ancestors snatched from?
It is hard to think of things that are more racist short of actual acts of violence and physical oppression. We only need to look at the southern boarder for that.
Republicans silent as Trump renews racist attack on congresswomen (Grauniad edits in {curly braces}):
That’s seems tame for the Grauniad, albeit I presume forthcoming analysis / opinion columns will use something more robust, such as “contained many lies and were completely bonkers”.
I assumed Cooper was being rhetorical, but yeah, it came across weird. How can anyone not?
The Grauniad’s snark machine splutters into action, If there is an ‘immigrant’ who has failed to integrate in America, it’s Donald Trump:
How can she say that?
The speech centers in the brain send signals to the larynx, tongue and mouth to move in certain ways, and the resulting sounds come out. I’ll leave the details to the more biologically educated.
Some people suspect the tweets were written by someone else, like Stephen Miller.
@19yimgueguen and?
sqb@10:
As a gent wo goes by the gym Popehat has been known to observe: If you fuck a goat to own the libs, you’re still a goatfucker.
This IS their country of birth, but if it wasn’t, then when they became citizens they would have made the following oath:
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure
all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or
sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States
of America against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true
faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the
United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant
service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law;
and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or
purpose of evasion, so help me God.
So he’s asking Naturalized citizens to go back on their oath.
mariofernandez
That’s The Oath?
whollyshit
I always get bummed out that there is not a button to push like, love, hate whatever for comments.
Chigau. Yes, and the oaths for resident alien, Congress, and the military are pretty similar with the military specifically making an oath to the President.
Of course we can’t totally blame our dear leader, he’s never had to take any of those oaths. Though the presidential oath specifies that “to the best of my ability I will defend the constitution of the United states”. Again, one could argue that he’s working to the best of his ability.
Can we apply this to white skeptic men? Including those who claim to hate Trump, but still won’t call out his bullshit?