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Chris Cillizza of CNN thinks it is awesome that Donald Trump won the dirt vote.

Someone needs to tell Cillizza, and the demented graphic designer who put all the effort into making a constellation of 50 irrelevant pie charts, that dirt doesn’t vote. Also that pie charts suck.

I would like to see Cillizza try and articulate why he thought that noise was awesome, though.

Comments

  1. cartomancer says

    This would be going over an election that happened eight bloody months ago? Isn’t it more usual eight months on to talk about what the people who were elected have actually done in that time?

  2. Dunc says

    Chris Cillizza, you are charged with the flagrant and reckless abuse of data visualisations. How do you plead?

    I mean, seriously, that’s a fucking horrible visualisation. I’m guessing that the size of each pie chart represents the total number of electoral votes for each state… Or is it the total land area? Also, as a non-USAian, I have to admit that my knowledge of your geography is nowhere near good enough for me to have any idea which state is which, with a handful of exceptions (but then I bet most of you couldn’t identify North Lanarkshire on an unlabelled map of Scotland). However, even to me, it looks like Alaska is missing. Any maybe Hawaii?

  3. slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says

    WTF? Is this supposed to be some kind of satiric attack on the Electoral College being an antiquated method to represent the importance of agriculture in the well being of the country? Be nice if there was a parenthetic line about how Electoral College districts represents acreage more than people. I’m baffled. *ptui*
    ?

  4. jerthebarbarian says

    The original article, if you click through, is an attempt to criticize people who think that bragging about land area won is anything but dumb. It’s specifically showing how it’s a stupid thing to be bragging about.

    That Cillizza would think that graph is awesome – when it’s picked out of the middle of an argument about why that graph is stupid – says pretty much all you need to know about Chris Cillizza.

  5. Owlmirror says

    1) I agree that that the original article was snark

    2) The original article points out that even in the elections that Obama won, the amount of land area “won” was greater for the Republican candidates.

    3) I have seen it suggested that Trumpists could be trolled by pointing out that since the oceans are colored blue, they obviously voted for Hillary.

  6. says

    It does make one real point, however, which is the urban/rural divide. The Republicans have a firm grip on rural voters — even where I live, in Connecticut, my small town is reliably Republican and went for Trump. This is an issue worth thinking about.

  7. EigenSprocketUK says

    It’s failed as snark if the people it’s snarking are now waving it around proudly. From a land where “bigger is better” the premise, that one republican sitting on five square miles of nothing is better than one democrat sitting on 5 square inches of LA, seems to have currency.

  8. springa73 says

    The rural-urban divide could be better illustrated simply by looking at a map of which counties voted for which candidate.

  9. Pierce R. Butler says

    Dunc @ # 2: I’m guessing that the size of each pie chart represents the total number of electoral votes for each state… Or is it the total land area?

    Definitely land area, or the southeast-most corner [Florida] would come out about 8 times larger than that of the northwest-most corner [Alaska] (it would be closer to 25 times larger if scaled by population, if you want an example of how the Electoral College problem distorts US politics).

  10. Dunc says

    Pierce R. Butler @14: I’d assumed that the Alaska pie was California, because it’s more than 50% blue. I see (thanks to Nes @14) that I was wrong. I also didn’t realise that Alaska was that much bigger than the other states, nor could I remember how many EC votes Florida has.

    All of which only serves to re-enforce my original assertion that this is a truly dreadful visualisation…

  11. monad says

    America has been about dirt ever since it stood as a proxy for “plantation owner”. I mean, if it isn’t supposed to vote, why is there an electoral college? It destroys votes by population, and I’ve heard people stand up for it still, on the grounds that it ensures the rural minority gets its say. If that means every other type of minority doesn’t, well, apparently enough people with dirt think that’s a small price to pay.

  12. Derek Vandivere says

    Look at the man’s Twitter feed. It seems pretty clear to me that he was saying the snarkticle was awesome, not the chart.

  13. says

    Well yes, it’s not the best way to illustrate the urban/rural divide, but that is the explanation for the pattern.

  14. archangelospumoni says

    Zero chance any Drumpfheteers will recognize the snark/sarcasm/irony here, especially those dumber than dirt. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR.

  15. robro says

    monad @ #17 — And given that the dirt minority controls the legislatures of many states and currently the US Congress, there’s no chance they will legislate themselves out of power. In fact, what many arch conservatives have been angling for is a constitutional convention to do all sorts of evil. With a couple of more states, they could get their wish.

  16. bobmunck says

    The article Cillizza points to says that the map is stupid.
    He seems to have uncovered a lot of people who leap before they look (including PZ). That’s a pretty big gotcha.

  17. snuffcurry says

    The notion of Cillizza gotcha-ing anyone here is risible, particularly if you’ve ever read him. It was a clear endorsement of an image he didn’t bother to try to parse apart from it Looking Cool, hence being unable to explain why it was awesome, beyond that critics failed to be “open-minded.”

  18. bobmunck says

    @snuffcury: The notion of Cillizza gotcha-ing anyone here is risible

    Your reasoning seems to curve back on itself — circular, as it were. It’s pure hater logic. The comment threads on various forums read like something from Stormfront.

  19. methuseus says

    @bobmunck:

    He seems to have uncovered a lot of people who leap before they look (including PZ).

    What the hell is qrong with you? it’s Twitter. Unless you’re told “Go to this link for more context” you’re supposed to assume the tweet has all the context needed. That’s the whole fucking point of Twitter.

  20. snuffcurry says

    Your reasoning seems to curve back on itself — circular, as it were. It’s pure hater logic. The comment threads on various forums read like something from Stormfront.

    What is this word salad

    Also, please spare us talk of “haters.” It’s such a grating, whinging construction.