1. lucy1965 says

    Morgan @ 173: my brain went somewhere else when you said “bears”; my older brother would say “No, Mormons are generally not tasty at all”.

    Lynna, have you seen the Pie and Beer Day participating venues list? I’m feeling all nostalgic about Squatters now . . . .

  2. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Ahhhh, a sunny day!

    And I’m driving the black Probe. 130 in the shade of the cabin….

  3. JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness says


    I realized something today, courtesy of JAL.
    I walked to the store to get dog food a few hours ago, and as I often do, I kept myself occupied during the 10-15 minute walk by reading news on my phone. While I was caught up in reading, I got several Lounge updates. One of them was yours, JAL. As I read it, I felt this surge of happiness. Not for me, but for you. I felt a tingle up my spine and goosebumps. I even felt my eyes water a little bit. Having read your comments over the years and having an awareness of the financial stress you’ve been under, I was able to imagine (to some degree) the relief you must be feeling at having been hired.

    The feeling of nearly being in tears was an odd experience for me. Like I said, I was (and am) quite happy for you. But I couldn’t recall when I’d almost (or fully) cried at good news. I usually cry when I’m sad or when I’m really angry.

    Then it struck me: maybe I’m not crying because of specific emotions, but I cry because of extreme emotions. I often feel sad, but don’t cry. I often feel angry, but don’t cry. And of course, I often feel happy, but don’t cry. But it’s like there’s a threshold that, once crossed, something in my brain goes *click* and I can feel the tears start to form.
    That’s what happened to me today, as a result of reading your wonderful news. Again,

    Aww, thank you!

    And I know that feeling. I do the same thing too, though mine might be more extreme and due to different causes. I think most people have a threshold like that, some are just lower or higher. Kinda like pain tolerance, I guess. Still a good self-realization, of course. And I’m happy my news made you that happy. Hopefully we can be toasting to new jobs together in a couple of days. :)

    My issue stems from the toxic masculinity crap of my father. Crying was bad and “if you cry, I’ll give you something to cry about” type shit.

    So I need to be overloaded and overwhelmed before I let it out. Which often leads to me to breaking down and finally crying over stupid shit, like a dumb commercial I’ve seen before but all of a sudden *all the feels*.

    Which leads to the whole “women crying spontaneously hehe” type of comments of course. If no one else is around, my broken brain picks up the slack.

    (later, no comment numbers since they don’t copy/paste and I stupidly forgot that >.<)

    Oh, those kind of interviews are nerve wrecking. *crosses fingers*

    And I hope the trick with the food for your kitty works out and she's okay. *crosses fingers*

    I'm terrified of something like that happening to our cats now. One of them always tries to eat plastic too and I'm so paranoid about it now that I'll wake up if I hear rustling during the night.



    Oh no, poor namesake! I’m sorry. :(

    At least she’s in great hands and has had a much better life because of you.

    That’s fantastic about helping Tony’s kitty and so sweet.



    Booo restructuring. I hope nothing changes with his lab and ya’ll can stick your plans.

    And Fuck Capitalism.

    Thanks everyone for all the congrats and well wishes. This’ll sound clique but it really wouldn’t have happened without all ya’lls help and I can’t thank you enough for everything ya’ll have done for us.

    I wish I could reply to all ya’ll but time and spoons are in short supply. *hugs* and *higs*

    Meanwhile….I got Stuff Done today. Paperwork, library trip, emailing. Everything so far is going smoothly for my job.

    Lots of calling places, usually just leaving messages but there is one place I’m going to tomorrow to check out their clothes. Since it’s all donations there’s no guarantee or anything, but it’s worth a shot.

    The frustrating part is for school clothes and supplies most just say “call your child’s school” but the school isn’t answering their phone. And I haven’t found any places yet for that stuff. Sure, she’s got almost 3 weeks still but I can’t risk not getting it. I’ll be working then and won’t be able to call during the day. And that shit goes quick. There’s also her shoes that are so small they’re hurting her feet now. :(

    Unfortunately, Mom and Husband got kicked out of their friend’s place this morning. Apparently, Mom’s Husband woke their friend up screaming, cussing, and throw things claiming their friend stole his dollar.

    Which is utterly fucking ridiculous. Their friend not only put their ass on the line to take them in, but shared food, tobacco and gave them money. Not a lot sure, but enough to get Mom’s meds and fax paperwork and shit.

    Their friend actually lives in the same complex as me, just a couple doors down. Such a generous and lovely person. I don’t believe Mom’s husband at all.

    Now they are back on the street for a couple days until they get their first SS check. While she’s recovering from surgery. And every time I see them, I have issues with the way he treats her. None of it is right and she won’t leave him and she’s gone so far and changed so much…


  4. Morgan!? ♥ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ says


    My cash situation is always precarious, but I live in a place with a very active community support system for families in need. One of the benefits of living in a very small town. If you could let me know what you need for Little One I am sure I could acquire some decent stuff and ship it to you. Would this be reasonable?

  5. Morgan!? ♥ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ says

    You can email me at morganmeeker at the gmail thingy.

  6. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    We had a recent restructuring in my department. There is a new initiative, called “know thy product”. Somebody is the R&D expert on two of the three products….and they pretend I am the expert on the third. But they need to look forward, as I need to retire to take care of somebody full time.

  7. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    Tony! The Queer Shoop @464 latest Lounge run

    Went to the job interview. It went ok.

    Grandma always told me she took the time to think positives at the times I was interviewed. I did the same for you today (it was during the coffee break).
    I am fully aware that I have no surnatural power (frankly I somewhat regret it, but let’s be honest… :) but I loved Grandma and I really wish you can step into something you love doing.

  8. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Ah, the joys of living near the Lake in Chiwaukee. One of the temps on my dashboard is from an airport, about 4 miles inland. The other is a site near the Lake. About 10 degrees difference, with the near the lake being the higher temp 71 vs 61 (???). Here a Casa la Pelirroja, we are near the lake temp (69). I suspect we will cool off overnight….find the blankets for the Redhead.

  9. JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness says


    My cash situation is always precarious, but I live in a place with a very active community support system for families in need. One of the benefits of living in a very small town. If you could let me know what you need for Little One I am sure I could acquire some decent stuff and ship it to you. Would this be reasonable?

    You can email me at morganmeeker at the gmail thingy.

    Oh, that would be so awesome, thank you! I’ll go email you now…

    …and sent! :D

  10. says


    The memorial was Saturday. This past Saturday. And it was… I can’t say it was “fun”, but it went well.

    Paul was a talker. He loved to just chat. And he loved his family and his friends. And he loved good food.

    He’d have loved the gathering in his honor.

    Paul… Paul helped me through a depressive episode. One of the bad ones. He let me camp out in his living room, and made sure that if I wasn’t going to be functional, well, at least I was well fed and non-functioning.

  11. says

    Ya’ll might get a kick out of this (Lynna, I thought you specifically might find this amusing):
    CBS to debut ‘Braindead’ in summer 2016:

    CBS has given a straight-to-series order for a 13-episode comic/thriller called BrainDead. The series, from The Good Wife creators Robert and Michelle King, tells the story of an eager young Capital Hill staffer who discovers that Washington’s inability to get anything done is because aliens have eaten the brains of Congress. The series is being described as The West Wing meets The Strain.

  12. says

    Lost my kitty Chloe earlier this year, best kitty ever… only 4 years old. She was born with only 1 kidney.
    Moved from CA to NY… been here just under a month… getting reacquainted with kitty Tony who I haven’t seen in years… he was in rough shape, I figured he had diabetes, doc confirms it. So now he’s counting on me to take care of him and get him healthy again.
    He seems happy to have me back. Seems healthier already.

  13. says

    You know, one day I will learn that if I combine the Thursday and Saturday shopping, I should take enough money and not just the Thursday shopping amount…
    And boxes…
    Talking ’bout money, here’s a #1 story. It’S so typical of her.
    This morning I noticed that with the hot and humid weather the bread had gone mouldy so #1 needed to buy breakfast at the baker’s van. I reached into my change box and handed her 60ct for a bretzel with cheese. When we came to the van and it was time to pay, the lady informed us that it’s 65ct. Oh. I must say I don’t know how much the bretzel is, I thought it was 60 ct, because on the rare occasions #1 needs to buy her breakfast I usually hand her a buck and don’t ask for change because I want her to learn that if you don’t spend money now, it is there for later and I don’t want her to buy some crap just to soend the money cause it will be gone anyway.
    Of course my purse was back in the car, but a friend who was standing in line behind us paid our missing 5ct (and the lady had already said she’d waive it). Now, you want to know the point of this story, right?
    When we walked up the stairs to the school #1 informed me “I knew it was 65ct all along!”


    thumbs continue being held.

    The really sad thing is that BYU hosts THE best and most extensive corpus of American English…

    Fuck abusive relationships. I hope one day your mum can break free of her husband.

    THanks everybody for the moral support. I’m just emotionally exhausted right now. We still don’t know anything concrete about Mr’s job. Information is contradictive. One is that all people working under big boss X (about 800 people!) are affected, that would include him, another one is that service is not affected, which would also be him. We really hope for the latter. Of course we’d still fight in solidarty with the people still affected, but dodging that bullet wouldn’t let me lose sleep.

    There’s a nice humble bundle with lots of comic books.

  14. says

    20+ photos that will annoy the perfectionist in you.

    Our brains like order, which is why this collection of imperfections is so infuriating. Things which are ordered seem natural are are easy for the brain to make sense of; imperfect or flawed things cause us to pause and do a double-take. Are those new tiles you put in really off-center or are you just seeing things?
    These photos of broken patterns, imperfect symmetry, and counter intuitive placement are guaranteed to drive you bonkers.

    Some of the ones that annoyed me most were:

    and the worst one of all #36.
    Do pay attention to the numbering as well. I think that was deliberate. And annoying.

    Oh boy did they ever trip my perfectionist filter.

    Before I go to bed, I want to share something with all of ya’ll because I can’t keep this horrible image to myself. Earlier tonight I was sitting in my bed and one of those annoying little flying roaches decided to park itself on my leg. Of course I freaked out and flung it across the room. I remarked on FB that I’d be happy if I woke up tomorrow and all mosquitoes and roaches in the world were gone. But then my dumb brain had to go and imagine what would happen in the wake of that. What would mother nature do? She’d get rid of them by combining them into one animal. Mosquiroach. Roachito. And they’d be the size of waterbugs.
    G’nite all.

  15. says

    Toddler killed by tipped over dresser
    I’m not really any wiser as to whether and how Ikea kits and instructions differ from Europe to the USA, but if they don’t, then the parents should stop putting the blame on other people and start realising that their negligence killed their child. When the little one was a little more than a year I plucked her from the high shelf in the nursery, out of about 2m height. I always joke that she’s the kid because of whom Ikea tells you to screw your furniture to the wall.
    You know, I’m the last person to hold her hand over a corporation, but I don’t see how you can blame them if you don’t follow clear instructions…

  16. opposablethumbs says

    Well done for your thesis, Giliell!!! (and I’m continuing to cross my fingers for your OH’s job news)

  17. carlie says

    From the other story in that article: “The wardrobe had come with metal brackets to attach it to the wall, which the Lamberts had not used, but they said that the restraints were “woefully inadequate” anyway. The case was ultimately settled out of court.”

    No. They have no idea if the restraints were “woefully inadequate”, given that they didn’t even use them. I have no patience for people who knowingly ignore safety requirements and then try to sue the manufacturer when the item performs exactly as advertised. “You must attach this to the wall using these things or it will tip over.” Yep, tips over if you don’t attach it to the wall using those things.

    Good luck to Giliell’s spouse and Tony and everybody and hugs to all.

  18. says

    Also, we have dismissed safety items as “woefully inadequate”. Then we went out and got something we deemed adequate. Because “let’S ignore the problem” is not a sensible response to “this meassure will not make this dangerous thing safe”.

  19. says

    And here’s a little story about how white supremacy gets transmitted.
    I’ve mentioned before that we live in a pretty diverse neighbourhood, which you can see in #1’s friends. I wouldn’t want to move back to my hometown simply because it’S too white. And because #1’s a smart kid, and she’s being raised by me, she has already noticed that PoC are being thought as lesser. You can see it in statements like “It’s unfair that people say the black girl can’t be the princess and must be the servant. Black girls can be princesses, too!” And still white supremacy settles comfortably within her totally not consiously racist thoughts.
    We had another conversation yesterday about her friends and their brown skin, because she mentioned that she’S glad her skin isn’t brown. Taken aback I asked her why she thinks so, because there’s nothing wrong with brown skin. She said yeah, that’s true, it’s only important that you’re a good person. I said yeah, I mean, your friends J and J and S, they’re wonderful people. And she said “Yes, for me it is as if their skin weren’t even brown.” My jaw hit the floor. We then had a talk about how all skin colours are just a part of a person like hair colour and that while you shouldn’t judge people on their colour, you also shoudn’t pretend that they don’t have a skin colour and that her skin has a colour, too.
    And that’s my kid. I know it’s not my place to tell how much I succeed at being an anti-racist ally, but I pride myself on being better than the average person (not that that’s difficult). You can now imagine what happens in families where totally not consiously racist parents don’t even think about these things…

  20. Kevin Anthoney says

    The protester in the photo at this article is carrying a sign saying “No nukes for Iran”. Does she think that the current talks with Iran are aimed at giving them access to nuclear weapons??

  21. says

    Tony @17, about the “Braindead” debut on CBS. Sounds hilarious. I love the concept. I also respect the people involved in producing “The Good Wife,” so I have high hopes. 2016, though — long time to wait.

    Lucy @3, I just so happen to have the list of fine establishments participating in “Pie-n-Beer” festivities. Your favorite, Squatters, is included:

    Beer Bar » 161 E. 200 South, Salt Lake City from 3 p.m. until the pie runs out. Pie Pass is $20 at the door, and includes five pieces of pie. Beer additional. Proceeds benefit KRCL Radio.

    Salt Lake Acting Company » 168 W. 500 North, Salt Lake City. SLAC is encouraging patrons to bring pie and beer to Friday’s production of “Saturday’s Voyeur.” Showtime is moved up to 6 p.m. so guests can be out in time to see fireworks. Tickets at 801-363-7522 or

    Shooting Star Saloon » 7350 E. 200 South, Huntsville; 801-745-2002. Apple or berry pie à la mode served until pie runs out. Draft beers available.

    Squatters Brewery » 147 W. 300 South, Salt Lake City; 801-363-2739. Serving slices of peanut butter pie for $2.50; and draft beers for $2.50

    Uinta Brewing Co » 1722 S. Fremont Drive, Salt Lake City; 801-467-0228. Stop by the newly remodeled Brewhouse pub for pie and draft beers.

    Wasatch Brew Pub » 2110 S. Highland Drive, Salt Lake City, 801-783-1127. Serving slices of peanut butter pie for $2.50 and draft beers for $2.50

  22. says

    This is quirky-
    Why Britain has secret ‘Ghost Trains’:

    The train that cuts across the West Yorkshire countryside from Leeds to the small town of Snaith departs just once at precisely 17:16, Monday to Saturday. Return trains depart twice: one at 07:16, one at 19:01.
    Given these infrequent departures, you’d expect packed carriages. But on a recent Friday rush hour – when Leeds train station, the second-busiest in the UK outside London, is swirling with commuters – no one, aside from me and my companions, remains on the line for more than a few stops. Soon, one carriage after another becomes completely, eerily empty. You could cartwheel down the aisles.

    The Leeds-Snaith line is what rail enthusiasts call a ghost train; Snaith station, a ghost station. The webpage about Snaith on ticket sales site warns that ticket machines are not available at the station. Nor is there a ticket office, taxi rank or cab office.
    It’s one of many train services around Britain that run with empty carriages – sometimes once or twice a day, sometimes as rarely as once a week. Sometimes even ticket sellers don’t know they exist, and it takes dedicated amateurs to seek them out. So why do these trains run at all?


    “Ghost trains are there just for a legal placeholder to prevent the line from being closed,” says Bruce Williamson, national spokesperson for the advocacy group RailFuture. Or as Colin Divall, professor of railway studies at the University of York, puts it: “It’s a useless, limited service that’s borderline, and the reason that it’s been kept is there would be a stink if anyone tried to close it.”
    Why ghosts exist
    That is the crux of why the ghost trains still exist. A more official term is “parliamentary trains”, a name that stems from past years when an Act of Parliament was needed to shut down a line. Many train operators kept running empty trains to avoid the costs and political fallout – and while this law has since changed, the same pressures remain.
    Closing down a line is cumbersome. There must first be a transport appraisal analysing the effect of a closure on passengers, the environment and the economy. The proposal is submitted to the Department of Transport and at that point its details must be published in the press, six months ahead of the closure. Then comes a 12-week consultation period, during which time anyone is welcome to protest; public hearings are sometimes held, especially if the closure is controversial. Then, finally, the plans are submitted to the Office of Rail and Road, who decide if the line closes.
    As a result it often costs less – in terms of time, paperwork and taxpayers’ money – to keep a line running at a bare minimum. Other nations run limited service trains, but experts say that the particular politicisation of Britain’s railways – and the creation of so many steps required to close them – means that when people say “ghost trains,” they’re usually referring to British ones.

    It’s so counterintuitive (to me anyway) that it’s cheaper to keep the trains running.

  23. says

    Kevin @33: Unfortunately, some pundits and politicians on the far-right are claiming that President Obama’s goal is to make sure Iran gets Nukes. Most of the anti-Iran-deal blather is bonkers and easily dismissed. One of the more substantial arguments against the deal highlights the “24-day window” that seems to allow Iran time to cheat. This window of time is misunderstood.

    Unfortunately, some pundits and politicians on the far-right are claiming that President Obama’s goal is to make sure Iran gets Nukes.

    Secretary of State John Kerry and Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz explain:

    If the international community suspects that Iran is cheating, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) can request access to any suspicious location. Much has been made about a possible 24-day delay before inspectors could gain access to suspected undeclared nuclear sites. To be clear, the IAEA can request access to any suspicious location with 24 hours’ notice under the Additional Protocol of the Nonproliferation Treaty, which Iran will implement under this deal. This accord does not change that baseline. In fact, the deal enhances it by creating a new mechanism to ensure that the IAEA gets the required access and sets a firm time limit to resolve access issues within 24 days. […]

    Most important, environmental sampling can detect microscopic traces of nuclear activities even after attempts to remove evidence.

    Quote is from a Washington Post Op-ed.

    Also, regarding that ability to detect traces of nuclear activities, actual tests have been run:

    […]Moniz […] says Energy Department specialists conducted experiments to gauge how hard it would be to detect the radioactive residue left behind. The result, he said, was that three weeks wouldn’t be enough time for Iran to be sure it had covered its tracks – by a large margin.

    Politico link

    Moreover, the 24-day window applies to newly suspicious locations, not to existing facilities. We have 24/7 surveillance in existing facilities.

    Secretary Kerry is being questioned by Congress today. I watched a few snippets. Kerry seems solid on the facts. Meanwhile, at least one Republican politician is saying Kerry “acted like Pontius Pilate.” [headdesk]

  24. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    Breaking in the current discussion from a forum with farmers, agriculture scientists and policy makers that is very rich in discussions and exchanges.
    I won’t give much context since I will just transpose (it is probably true at so many different levels that I take the freedom doing so), but this was the thought from a Surinamese kassava producer women who tried many transitions and economic innovations in her life apparently with less success than expected.
    We’ve been bethreading with dreams and life happenstencies recently, and I really liked what she told:
    “When our dream broke, it is generally replaced with an even greater dream”.

    Good wishes to everyone, and let the dreams come true.

  25. says

    Oddities from the recently released compendium of Donald Trump’s personal finances, (paperwork he had to file as part of his bid for the presidency of the US):

    Trump reported making $550,000 running the Central Park carousel, and another $8.6 million operating the Central Park ice skating rink.

  26. says

    Well, this is odd. My son lives in Seattle, and he hasn’t said a thing to me about it being a Sharia law zone.

    WND’s [WorldNetDaily] article, which includes the warning, “United Nations floods Seattle area with refugees,” skewers the city’s growing Muslim community and a recent proposal from a mayoral committee to aid Muslim homebuyers who believe their religion proscribes paying interest on loans.

    As Adam Serwer pointed out during a similar controversy in Minnesota, many U.S. banks are already beginning to offer such plans where the “companies structure the payments in a sort of house-buying layaway plan.” […]

    “Such dangerously misguided efforts kowtow to, and abet, Islamic supremacism,” said Dr. Andrew Bostom […]

    “Shariah-compliant mortgages, and all aspects of so-called Shariah-compliant finance, should be rejected because they are vehicles for the promulgation of Islamic law, an integrated religio-political system antithetical to our most fundamental Western freedoms,” Bostom said. […]

    “Shariah is a unified whole – a guide to every aspect of human behavior. It doesn’t just involve interest and loans,” [Pamela] Geller said. “The teachings of Islam regarding war against and subjugation of unbelievers is part of Shariah as well. The mayor of Seattle is opening the door to Shariah […]

    “This is a radical, intolerant, violent, misogynistic, antisemitic ideology, and he should not be kowtowing to it.”

  27. says

    After a local Border Patrol union in Laredo, Texas, pulled out of its Thursday tour of the U.S.-Mexico border with Donald Trump, the real estate mogul blamed the cancellation on “pressure at the national level.”

    “The National Border Patrol Council, Local 2455 in Laredo, Texas, invited Mr. Trump to be their guest and then they were silenced directly from superiors in Washington who do not want people to know how bad it is on the border — every bit as bad as Mr. Trump has been saying,” Trump said in a statement released on Thursday morning.

    Uh, no, Mr. Trump. You are completely misinterpreting this. The Border Patrol union in Laredo did not want to associated with your dumbfuckery.

    The union made it clear that they did not want to endorse Trump.

    In other news, Rachel Maddow took on Rick Santorum.

  28. Saad says

    Lynna #39

    “… Islamic law, an integrated religio-political system antithetical to our most fundamental Western freedoms,” Bostom said.

    Freedoms such as mistreating women, gay people, trans people and atheists. Yup. Totally antithetical.

  29. rq says

    Well, honestly, what god-fearing christian wants to go around in a long dress wearing a dishtowel on their head, huh? Yeah, totally antithetical.

    In other news, I have realized that I really hate the people who say “I oppose [racism / misogyny / transphobia / homophobia / etc.] because I am a moral person”. I mean, less that I hate the people but I hate the argument. They usually back that up with a “No, really, I am!” (paraphrase), and I’ve always hated this argument, but I just figured out why.
    And it’s because (a) these people are also usually all for Freeze Peach and ‘neutral’ platforms (that of course let all kinds of bigotry stand, but Freeze Peach and all that) and (b) because they have to qualify themselves ‘as a moral person’. Like, who the fuck cares? You should just be opposed to [racism / misogyny / transphobia / homophobia / etc.] because that is shitty asshole behaviour that causes a great deal of harm (to put it mildly). You don’t have to go and say that it’s because you’re such a moral person, it’s like you’re following the party line because it’s the party line, not because you honestly believe it. “People should be moral, and I want to be a moral person, therefore I will state that I oppose [racism / misogyny / transphobia / homophobia / etc.] because that is what moral people do. Now I will state this, that will make it true, and I win!” And yet their actual opinions… well… Well. It’s like they’re trying hard to create an acceptable, pleasant image of themselves rather than actually being pleasant.
    Yes, I was trying to skim through the reddit thread. Procrastinating. Ugh.

  30. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk- #32
    Well done!
    Unfortunately, we had a (transient but still) bad experience as parents, because one of our kids had difficulties of integrating the local Caribbean culture when we moved and we totally overlooked it. That’s because we never had imagined things like this could occur. The problem is that if you don’t speak with your kids about racism etc., you let other people do. And other people can really be as…
    Anxiety was born in my kid because they felt different from their own dad, and the very fact that they met with my adoptive brother, which is African, led to more confusion (philosophical brotherhood coadoption, not a juridic adoption, but when we say brother we mean it).
    Now it’s gone back to normal, but it’s sometimes really difficult when you live in a bubble world where racism does not occur*, how do you do to reintegrate the real world??

    *as incredible as it seems, I’ve long been in a state of denial about racism (curiously less so with regard to sexism, but I think I can thus understand why some women may not spot it: you grow up learning to dismiss it completely), rather, it was something wrong that I did and not the other folks behaving wrong. Western culture is especially good at dismissing its natural biases.

  31. says

    If you are ever in trouble with the police, surrender, chill out, and put your hands up.

    If you do that, everything should be okay, right? […]

    As you will see in the video below, Thomas Jennings, after being confronted by an officer for stealing pizza at a nearby eatery, puts his hands up and surrenders to the police when, running in from the side like a raging pull comes another officer, and …


    He begins punching Jennings right upside his head. The first officer seems to figure, “What the hell, I might as well join in,” and starts using his club as well.

    Don’t worry though, NYPD officials claim they are looking into it. […]

    Video at the link.

    So if surrendering with your hands up doesn’t work, what are you supposed to do? Maybe you could just start punching yourself?

  32. says

    Another reason why Jeb Bush should not be elected president of the USA: He wants to get rid of Medicare.

    The former Florida governor opined Wednesday on the future of Medicare, a program he said “we need to figure out a way to phase out.” […]

    Talking Points Memo link

    Jeb made noises about replacing Medicare with a new system, but from what I’ve seen, conservative politicians do not replace programs that help the elderly, poor, disabled, and/or lower-income populations. They cut the existing programs whenever and however they can, and they have zero good ideas about replacements. It’s as if they conveniently forget the replacement step.

  33. Saad says

    New York looks set to increase minimum wage to $15

    New York made shockwaves on Wednesday when a specially-convened state wage board called for a hike in the minimum pay for fast food workers to $15 an hour. Assuming it’s approved by Gov. Andrew Cuomo –and no signs suggest otherwise– the new rate will be, at once, a jaw-dropping victory for labor activists, a rare political setback for name-brand restaurant chains, and the latest piece of fodder for a national debate about the value of fair pay. It also can’t come soon enough for David Ramirez.

    “We need that raise, my man,” says Ramirez, 52, an employee at the same Subway restaurant in midtown Manhattan for the past 10 years, where he earns the state minimum, now $8.75. “We bust our a– up in here.”

    On most days, Ramirez wakes well before dawn in downtown Brooklyn, where he splits monthly rent of $1300 with his mother who receives Social Security benefits. He usually starts work at 5 in the morning. When his shift ends at 3 in the afternoon, he heads to a different Subway in Woodmere, Queens –about an hour and a half away by train– and works another 4 hours. It makes for an exhausting 60 hour work week. Since he divides the time over two jobs, neither tallying more than 40 hours per week, Ramirez doesn’t earn any overtime. In New York City, he says, those annual earnings of about $21,000 are hard to get by on. A raise of $6 would go a long way.

    “It would make a big difference, not just to me,” he says, “but other families too.”

    I hope it gets signed. People like Mr. Ramirez deserve it.

  34. says

    To answer rq’s question up-thread, Donald Trump sometimes talks about himself as a royal “we,” and he sometimes tells stories in which he refers to himself in the third person and in the first person.

    Trump also claims that running a golf course prepares him to run the country. Here’s a story that covers most of the above:

    Answering a question from the audience about small businesses, Trump non-sequitured into a conversation he’d had with a member of the Trump National Doral golf club in Florida, which he bought out of bankruptcy in 2012 and renovated. “You know, Mr. Trump,” Trump recounted the man saying, “if you could do the same thing for the country as you did at Doral in Miami, it would be unbelievable.”

    Switching back to the first person, the candidate told the standing-room-only crowd, “And I can. I can!”

    Most of the staff at the Trump National Doral are Latino immigrants. So, if that’s a sign of a Trump-run USA, we’ll have more Latino immigrants working in our service industries.

    BTW, did you know that Trump has a coat of arms? The family seal features a coat of armor, a clenched fist, and a raised spear. The Doral resort decor features this family seal on napkins, stone carvings, bathrobes, the bottoms of trash bins, etc. From this, I think we can extrapolate how Trump would redecorate the Whitehouse should he be elected president. (There will also be a large, framed photo of Trump in every room … reminds me of Saddam Hussein’s taste in decor.)

  35. says

    Ron Johnson, Republican rightwing doofus and a Wisconsin Senator that Republican leadership deemed fit for membership on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, upped the clownishness factor in today’s hearings on the Iran deal.

    Johnson arrogantly lectured Ernest Moniz (US Energy Secretary, M.I.T. physicist, and all around intelligent guy) on the dangers of “electro-magnetic pulse weapons.” EMP weapons are one of many big-boogie-man-under-the-bed fears that right-wingers future with constant blather and misinformation. Moniz said he had no idea what Johnson was talking about, so Johnson assured Moniz that he would send him some information. Talk about a waste of time. And WTF was Johnson doing bringing that up in a discussion of the deal Obama fostered with Iran?

    Johnson’s super PAC is also airing ads that show a fake, photoshopped image of Obama shaking hands with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani. Never happened. Johnson’s PAC is fundraising off this image. When questioned, Johnson said he didn’t know what “a photoshop” is.

    Oh, almost forgot this: Republican leadership also make Ron Johnson the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee. Ignorance must be a prerequisite.

  36. says

    Saad @49, I with you on this. I’m so excited about fast food workers in New York getting $15 per hour that you would think I lived there and was one of those workers.

    Justice, fairness and all that.

  37. rq says

    The world is a golf course. Woo. When do I get my little cart to get around? Or do I not qualify as an employee? (I’m not holding out any hopes for membership.)

  38. says

    A look into the life of Miss Major, trans matriarch of the Bay Area:
    (long, but good read; I recommend it; here’s an excerpt)

    Miss Major Griffin-Gracy was born Major Gracy at St. Luke’s Hospital in Chicago, Ill., in “1940-something or other.” Her father worked in the railroad section of the post office. Her mother ran a beauty shop. “We had a good middle-class existence,” she says of her childhood on the South Side.

    Her mother chose the name Major on the advice of a psychic. “The psychic told her that she wouldn’t carry me to term, and that she needed to give me a name that had strength and character because I was going to be different. And so she came up with the name Major.” The psychic was right: Baby Major was born two months early, and she was different.

    Assigned to the male gender at birth, Miss Major came out to her parents when she was 12 or 13. “I told them that this existence that I had, it just didn’t feel right,” she says. “You know inside when something isn’t meshing right.”

    Miss Major’s parents’ first response was to send her to a psychiatrist to “straighten my brain out,” she says. “When that didn’t work, they decided that they would just pray on me. So they took me to church and had the demon excised from me, and then they waited for me to grow out of it. I’m still waiting to grow out of it myself.”

    While Laverne Cox and Janet Mock are the role models transgender teens can look to today, in the 1950s, there was Christine Jorgensen, an American G.I. who underwent sex reassignment surgery in Europe. She became an instant celebrity when the New York Daily News ran her story under the headline “Ex-GI Becomes Blonde Bombshell” and went on to advocate for transgender rights.

    “After Christine Jorgensen got her sex change, all of a sudden there was a black market of hormones out there,” Miss Major recalls. A fortune teller in an amusement park on the North Side of Chicago sold oral hormones out of her booth. “She would do the little crystal ball thing and you would pay her, and she would slip you some hormones to take.” All the transgender girls and women would congregate outside the tent and get to know one another.

    After Miss Major’s parents realized she wasn’t going to identify as a man, they kicked her out. Miss Major survived as best she could outside of the law, doing sex work, stealing, scraping by. At one point, she found a secretarial job with the Mattachine Society, one of the country’s first gay rights organizations. Still, sex work was the steadiest work, and that put Miss Major at the mercy of the police. “You always got abused by cops,” she says. “Always.”

    When she would get picked up, Miss Major recalls, “You didn’t go to jail jail, they put you in a mental hospital, on the psych floor. You were considered to be a crazy person if you were a male person wearing a dress.” After spending six months in a mental institution in Chicago, where she was forced to take Thorazine (“That medication would knock your dick in the dirt”), Miss Major had had enough of Chicago, and she struck out for New York.

    “New York used to really rock,” Miss Major says of the city in the late 1950s and early 1960s. She lived uptown on 85th Street and Amsterdam Avenue, “in a building full of nothing but girls,” she says. “It was just fun. The house would just rock to the music, and we would jam out all the time. A party would start downstairs, go upstairs, and then go back downstairs. Boys would come and go.” The music was Motown. “Everybody thought they were Diana Ross,” she says with a laugh.

    Miss Major was a showgirl in the famed Jewel Box Revue, which featured performances by what were then called “female impersonators.” She performed with another group called the Cherries, and another called the Powder Puff Revue. She went by different names at different times — “Barbara and then Olive then Valerie, Bonita, Cynthia, Margaret, Mary” — before settling back on Major, with the addition of “Miss.” She added “Griffin” to her last name in honor of her mother, something she learned from European sex workers who hyphenated their names.

    “You took pride in what you were doing,” Miss Major says of her showgirl days. “If you were trying to mimic some star like Diana Ross or the Supremes or one of the Marvelettes, you really worked on what their mannerisms were.”

  39. says

    Fuck. There’s been a theater shooting in a Lafayette, LA movie theater:

    Clay Henry is vice president of operations for Acadian Ambulance. He told The Associated Press that 10 people all together were shot and eight were brought to the hospital.

    Watch: Breaking news update

    Henry said the gunman and one other person were pronounced dead on arrival. Henry said emergency workers got the call to go to the theater about 7:30 p.m.

    City Marshal Brian Pope was quoted by The Daily Advertiser as also saying the gunman was dead. Pope said six people were injured.

    The gunfire broke out at the Grand Theater, which is located on Johnston Street, to the south of downtown Lafayette.

    Gov. Bobby Jindal published a Tweet about 8:45 p.m., reading: “I’m on my way to Lafayette right now. Please say a prayer for the victims at Grand Theatre and their families.”

    CNN reports that it was a 58-year-old white male:

    10:45 p.m.: “There’s nothing to believe that there was any kind of motive,” said Sgt. Brooks David.

    10:43 p.m. ET: A 58-year-old white male who was a theater patron fired multiple shots, David said. The shooter was acting alone and is deceased, he said. There were about 100 people inside at the time.

    10:42 p.m.: In addition to the shooter, another victim is dead. There are at least nine others injured, David said.

    A shooting at a Lafayette, Louisiana, movie theater left at least two people dead and nine others injured, health officials said.

    Clay Henry with Acadian Ambulance said the wounded were taken to three area hospitals. He described the injuries as “wide and varied.”

    The shooter died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Sgt. James Anderson of the Louisiana State Police said. It wasn’t clear if the shooter was included among the dead list

    The shooting inside the Grand Theatre 16 involved “multiple victims,” the police department tweeted. Police said they received the call about 7:30 p.m. CT.

    The scene immediately after the shooting was chaotic.

    “A whole bunch of girls started screaming and we heard that someone was shot,” Roxy Martinez told CNN affiliate KATC. “There were a lot of people running.”

    Her brother saw a woman who had been shot in the stomach.

    “I see a lady full of blood in a dress,” Robert Martinez said. “She was just looking at me in complete fear.”

    Todd Moffatt, manager of a Mellow Mushroom pizza restaurant in the area, said 20 to 30 emergency vehicles had arrived on the scene. The area was locked down, he said.

    Lafayette is a city of about 120,000 people 60 miles west of Baton Rouge.

    The shooting happened days after the conviction of James Holmes in the July 19, 2012, Aurora, Colorado, theater shooting that left 12 people dead and 70 people wounded.

  40. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    Usually I take easy steps for happiness and it’s working well, just thinking about how lucky I am to meet people with so various experiences and how nice it is to enjoy, simply enjoy.

    But tonight, I don’t know if I will be able to sleep. I really feel bad, and it’s frustrating because I feel bad instead of someone else. But I tried to keep ethics to an acceptable level, dissonance is just what I’m paid with. Tasting bitter. And I really don’t like bitterness this time.

    Tonight, I helped someone finding condoms to cheat on his wife.
    He was really going to whatever. Fuck it. I keep saying to myself that I might have helped saving his wife from something bad, but it really feels like I helped him instead.

    I am really ashame. Please somebody tell me I did the right thing. Holly shit, fucking holly shit. Random people smiled at me tonight but I only wanted to bark badly.

  41. Ice Swimmer (was Nakkustoppeli) says

    Not that long ago Allison Hope Weiner interviewed a mass shooting expert. He talked about how a movie theater shooting is a kind of a worst case scenario. Darkness gives cover for the killer and there are often a lot of people densely packed in a closed space.

    A clip from Crime Time

    I wish these kinds of shootings won’t become an epidemic. At least one thing is clear, guns should not be allowed in movie theaters and the ban should be enforced vigorously.

  42. Ice Swimmer (was Nakkustoppeli) says

    Okidemia @ 58

    In my opinion, lowering significantly the risk that venereal diseases are spread to the wife or other people is a more substantial thing than the damage to the relationship and may affect many more people.

  43. Ice Swimmer (was Nakkustoppeli) says

    Okidemia @ 58

    Enabling condom use may have been the only thing you had any control over.

  44. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    Ice Swimmer (was Nakkustoppeli)
    thanks, it’s not always easy to acknowledge that we are not the one deciding. A colleague of mine decided not to help, and it felt really easy for they. The horrible time is when you realise the guy is not going to care enough that somebody else has to.
    Frankly I hate the guy for that. I’ll tell him not to involve other people but have what it does instead next time.
    What I don’t understand is why I’m the one feeling bad in that story.

  45. says

    Last day of school for #1. I’m expecting a brilliant school report and need to get her a surprise. Then it’s 6 weeks of summer holidays. The first three weeks the daycare is open and they have a great programm. Makes you want to volunteer. Then it’s our holiday and I have to remember that however unsure our future suddenly looks, we’re still incredibly lucky and right now we’re still in the same position we were last week. We’re not just a couple, but also a great team and we’ll see through this together. Nothing will happen over night and even if the worst case scenario hits us, I should be then be able to provide for us.

    Hugs if you want them.
    Please remember that other people’s bad decisions are NOT your moral failure. Your colleage, the one who simply refused, took the easy road. In German I’d say “hat es sich leicht gemacht”. It’s one of the things that doesn’t exactly translate into English. They did not act more moral than you by refusing. There was no good choice for you in that situation, only fucked up and really fucked up.

    As for the conversations about racism, yeah, it’s another piece of evidence that just “colourblindness” doesn’t work. You need to have conversations. You actuvely need to teach anti-racism and consciousness because we’Re swimming in a toxic racist soup. Would you believe that it was #1 who had to teach her teacher in first grade the a certain colour is called “apricot” and not “skincolour”?

    No little cart for you, peon. It’s for your own good, because long walks are healthy. Oh, btw, we’ll still expect you to move as fast as if you had a little car, or we’ll deduct it from your payment. If you want to increase your wage, increase your godsdamn value.

  46. birgerjohansson says

    Re. IKEA. It is my understanding that 14 million* of this specimen of furniture has been sold. The number of people seriously hurt in accidents are in single digits. That is goddamn safe.

    *or was it 28 million?

  47. says

    I have that exact same piece of furniture. Actually, I have that piece in three varieties: 4 drawers, 6 drawers and 8 drawers. The 8 drawers version is the one that killed the kid. I like the model because it is very solid. It is damn heavy. Damn heavy means it takes a lot to make it tip, but when it does, you cannot hold it anymore. A toddler stands no chance. But a toddler who pulls out the lower drawers and climbs on them will easily make it tip.
    Needless to say, mine are screwed to the walls, even though none is in the kids’ room. And it’s shown in the instructions. The danger of tipping over is depicted in the instructions. The material is included apart from the screws you need for your wall because there’s many different kinds of walls.

  48. carlie says

    Okidemia, they would have done it regardless of what you had to say. If you had swayed them from doing it right at that moment, it still would have happened later at another time. You managed to do risk mitigation, which is as much as you could have.

  49. Saad says

    Mango lassi recipe for anyone interested.

    I think cardamom goes with sweets and not with lassis, but the saffron seems like a nice touch.

    The classic sweet and salty lassi is still king of lassis though. :)

  50. says

    I am “the other woman” in my relationship. I will agree with other posters here and say you did the right thing with the condoms. As to any moral or ethical concerns you have to the situation, don’t entangle yourself.

  51. Alexander says

    I’m not really a regular in these lounge threads, but with the end of the Thunderdome I don’t see a more appropriate place for this—after all, it’s not related to any of PZ’s other posts. Frankly, I’m here not to follow some “off topic” rule, but seeking people who may be able to help me understand something.

    Some background: a few posts ago, in the “How stupid are liberals” thread I saw that some libertarian-type argument about … well, the same brouhaha that libertarians always argue about. But I saw something at the end which really grinds my gears: “If you don’t like it, leave.”

    Those exact words weren’t used, but the phrasing is irrelevant. So is the argument against which it was leveled; I happened to agree with the speaker on that front, but think the argument form itself is inappropriate. (I’m not linking to the post because of that irrelevancy; if you try to argue about those things here, I will ignore you.) Each time I hear that sort of rhetoric, I can’t help but imagine how it might be used against the positions I hold dear (blockquoting hypothetical arguments):

    “Man it sure is terrible that your family can’t get a decent education, fair-wage jobs, or live in constant fear, but all that’s because you’re living in Alabama [in the 60’s/70’s]. You really should move somewhere that isn’t endemically racist.”

    Survivors of abuse will hear this argument and immediately recognize a “blaming the victim” argument. Even weaker phrasing can clearly deny the agency and humanity of those who it is levied against:

    “If you don’t like the capitalist healthcare system that America has always used, go live in one of those socialist countries you seem to love.”
    “The Supreme Court was wrong to redefine traditional marriage. If LGBTQ activists wanted to get married, they could always move to one of the places that had already done so.”

    These examples make this argument clearly of immense valuable to abusers and oppressors, so hearing it from those I would consider sociopolitical allies gives me cold chills. If you don’t see this as oppressive behavior, why not?

  52. carlie says

    Alexander – I think the Mended Drum thread is probably better than this one to raise your points. It does cover off-topic ideas, and the lounge is more geared towards hanging out and personal stories than deep debate/discussion. You’ll probably get more “bites” of people responding in that thread.

  53. Alexander says

    Carlie & Nerd of Redhead, #73 & 74:

    Whoops, my bad! Thank you for the correction: reposting there.

  54. says

    Yes, Republican leaders in Congress are still trying to repeal Obamacare:

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has proposed repealing Obamacare as part of the long-term highway bill currently being considered in the upper chamber.

    McConnell’s office said Friday that the Senate would vote Sunday on an amendment to the highway legislation that would repeal the Affordable Care Act. The initial vote, which would cap debate on the repeal amendment, would need 60 votes.

    Most people have lost count of how many times Republicans have tried to repeal Obamacare, but for a rough idea, 56 to 58 is about right.

  55. says

    Has the Birther movement finally run out of steam?

    Rachel Maddow revisits the absurdity of the birther movement, championed in part by Republican frontrunner Donald Trump, and notes that President Obama’s trip to Kenya is taking place without a fuss from birthers.

    Regarding Tony’s link up-thread, where the shooter is identified as a Tea Bagger: the excerpts from online postings show that the guy was also a racist and a homophobe.

  56. says

    Police in Denton, Texas tasered a man who trying to help a distraught woman:

    […] As it turns out, the police were called because someone noticed a completely naked woman walking outside of the hotel holding the baby. Coleman, another guest in the hotel, saw the woman, helped her cover up, and offered to hold her baby. She trusted Coleman to hold the baby when the police arrived.

    When the woman began screaming that the police were hurting her, Coleman passed the baby on to another hotel guest and began pleading with the officers to help the woman instead of hurting her. His only intention from the start of the incident appeared to be to help. Tasering him was outrageously excessive and completely unnecessary. Arresting him was also overkill, but clearly they couldn’t use such brute force on him, then let him go.

    The bottom line is this—the Denton police not only overreacted, they lied.

  57. says

    “I was just listening to you,” he said after being introduced, “and you know we all love you and Mika [Brzezinski], but I was listening to you talking about [Jeb] Bush and [Marco] Rubio and a couple of others and you sort of forgot to mention my name even though I’m creaming them all in the polls. I don’t understand what you’re doing.”

    That’s Donald Trump speaking to Joe Scarborough, one of the co-hosts of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show today.

    You just have to laugh. Maximum ego display by Trump. He keeps trumping himself with this stuff. For one thing, he is basically wrong, Scarborough has been talking about Trump a lot. For weeks.

  58. says

    A black preacher objects to church members demonizing the LGBT population.


    “We demonize and dehumanize the same people that we use and we don’t say nothing about the gay choir director because he’s good for business” Smith said. “As long as the choir sound good, I ain’t saying nothing about his sexuality. We have done what the slave master did to us. Dehumanize us, degrade us, demonize us, but then use them for our advantage.”

    YouTube link

  59. says

    The U.S. Chamber of Commerce can usually be counted on to back Republican politicians and a conservative agenda. Now the Chamber of Commerce is fed up … and they plan to do something about it.

    The Chamber spent some $70 million in 2014, mostly to help Senate Republicans build their majority. But many of their legislative priorities—immigration reform, the renewal of the Export-Import Bank and a long-term highway bill—have been held up by a clutch of conservative lawmakers in the House. […]

    “The fact that there are still members of the Republican House that are obstructionist, isolationists that would be willing to shut down the government only reinforces that the Chamber and the business community, for that matter, will double down on this winning formula,” Caldeira said. “I believe they are going to continue to be involved early in candidate recruitment to find candidates that have the willingness to run, the courage to govern once they get to D.C., and hopefully work in a bipartisan manner to get things done.”

    If the Chamber is successful in taking out some of the Republican hardliners in the next election, that will be a good thing.

  60. says

    Ali Viator Martin and Jena Legnon Meaux helped save lives during the Lafayette shooting last night:

    As the dust settles following the Thursday night shooting that left three people dead and nine injured in a Lafayette, Louisiana, movie theatre, two teachers, Ali Viator Martin and Jena Legnon Meaux, are being hailed as heroes for their lifesaving actions during the affair.

    One of the women, allegedly Meaux, threw herself on another friend to shield her from the spray of bullets fired at the 100 people in the theatre, while the other, supposedly Martin, pulled the fire alarm during the incident, alerting authorities. Both women were shot in their legs and were hospitalized, but are in stable condition.

    There’s a GoFundMe account set up to raise funds for their hospital bills.

  61. says

    “If you ask me where has been the one area where I feel that I’ve been most frustrated and most stymied, it is the fact that the United States of America is the one advanced nation on Earth in which we do not have sufficient, common-sense gun safety laws, even in the face of repeated mass killings,” Obama told BBC.

    “If you look at the number of Americans killed since 9/11 by terrorism, it’s less than 100. If you look at the number that have been killed by gun violence, it’s in the tens of thousands.

    President Obama speaking about his greatest regret, gun violence, hours before the incident in Lafayette.

  62. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    While I was at my urologist’s office, waiting to see the doctor, they had CNN on the TV in the waiting room. They asked one of their lawyers about the shooting, and the lawyer had actually been a deputy sheriff prior to going to law school. While he had little doubt about his ability to use a firearm safely in the theater shooting situation, he had severe doubts about the regular Joe/Jill Blow being able to make the proper judgement decisions during such a situation, especially when all the wannabe hero’s are all drawing their weapons at the same time. He implied that a lot of “friendly fire” deaths would likely result. DUH.
    The reason the killer committed suicide was the quick response by the police, trapping him in the theater. Then, he turned the gun on himself.

  63. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    The Layfeyette shooter couldn’t get a concealed carry permit, due to his domestic abuse. But he could still by a handgun???? WTF?

  64. Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought says

    So I’m moving tomorrow and I haven’t arranged for the internet connection yet. I’ll keep up a bit on the mobile.

  65. says

    Good news from Washington state: your pharmacist cannot refuse to sell Plan B to you.

    Washington state can force pharmacies to dispense Plan B or other emergency contraceptives, a federal appeals court said Thursday in a long-running lawsuit brought by pharmacists who said they have religious objections to providing the drugs.

    The unanimous decision Thursday by the three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a 2012 ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Ronald B. Leighton, who had found that the state’s rules violated the religious freedom of pharmacy owners. It was the second time the appeals court reversed Leighton in the case. […]

    KIRO TV news link

  66. says

    Oh, FFS, more county clerks are fighting for the right to refuse to process marriage licenses for same-sex couples.

    […] Linda Summers, an employee in Harrison County [Indiana], was fired last year for her refusal to fully perform her job requirements – specifically issuing marriage licenses for all qualified couples.

    Before her termination in December, Summers delivered a hand-written note [which] explained that Summers would not issue licenses to gay couples and asked for an accommodation. Her taxpayer-funded employment ended shortly thereafter. […]

    In reality, Summers was not fired for her religious beliefs – even though that’s what the Religious Right wants you to think. The truth is she was fired for insubordination. […]

    Summers now joins a long line of clerks and other public employees who are resisting marriage equality. Some clerks have resigned rather than give marriage licenses to gay couples. Some are suing for the right not to issue licenses to same-sex couples. Still others are engaged in a stalemate of sorts, not yet having been fired over their refusals but also unwilling to quit. […]

    As for Summers and others in her position, no one can force them to issue marriage licenses if they don’t want to do so. That does not mean, however, that clerks have the freedom to pick and choose what job duties they will and will not perform. Since Summers would not do her job, firing her was the only option for Harrison County. Most any employer, public or private, would likely have done the same with an insubordinate employee. […]

  67. says

    That New York Times story on the Clinton emails has turned out to be a total crock

    It looks like Representative Trey Gowdy, the guy who is chairing the umpteenth Benghazi investigation for Republicans, leaked the bad info to the NYT newspaper. That the New York Times fell for it is depressing.

    NYT editors tried to make a quick fix soon after the story was released. They succeeded in writing some incoherent shit that was difficult to parse. And get this, the bogus story still claims a request was made for a criminal inquiry, which is a lie.

    As Representative Elijah Cummings said, “This is the latest example in a series of inaccurate leaks to generate false front-page headlines—only to be corrected later—and they have absolutely nothing to do with the attacks in Benghazi or protecting our diplomatic corps overseas.”

  68. says

    Well, this ought to endear the Donald to even more members of the press corps. /sarcasm

    The Des Moines Register published an editorial critical of Donald Trump. Trump retaliated by refusing to issue press credentials to anyone from the Des Moines Register. This means that those reporters and columnists cannot attend any Trump events.

    I see that, apart from the critical editorial, the Des Moines Register’s coverage of Trump has been a routine part of their coverage of all candidates in Iowa. Non-partisan.

    Here’s Trump’s take on the issue: “I am not at all surprised by the Des Moines Register’s sophomoric editorial. The Des Moines Register has lost much circulation, advertising, and power over the last number of years. They will do anything for a headline, and this poorly written ‘non-endorsement’ got them some desperately needed ink.”

  69. says

    More details on the shooting in Lafayette. The shooter was more of a misogynist than has been covered so far in most media:

    On an NBC television affiliate’s call-in show in the 1990s, Houser encouraged violent responses to abortion and condemned working women […]

  70. says

    And so the bullshit begins:

    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) on Friday said that it is not the appropriate time to discuss gun control policy following a deadly shooting at a movie theater in Lafayette, La.

    “We are less than 24 hours out, we’ve got two families that need to bury their loved ones. We’ve got families waiting for their loved ones to leave the hospital and are praying for their recovery,” Jindal said at a Friday press conference, according to The Hill. “There will be an absolute appropriate time for us to talk about policies and politics, and I’m sure that folks will want to score political points of this tragedy, as they’ve tried to do on previous tragedies.” […]

  71. says

    Court smacks down pharmacy that refused to fill prescriptions on religious grounds.

    Pharmacy owners do not have a constitutional right to refuse to dispense medicines that they object to on religious grounds, according to a decision handed down Thursday by a federal appeals court. Had the plaintiffs in this case prevailed, it would have not only permitted them to refuse to fill many birth control prescriptions (which is what these particular plaintiffs hoped to achieve), but it could have also potentially enabled pharmacists to refuse to fill a long list of prescriptions, including “diabetic syringes, insulin, HIV-related medications, and Valium.”

  72. says

    Recipes, anyone?
    Native cooking from savory to sweet: 5 easy snack recipes.

    Corn Relish Appetizer

    1 jar (8oz) corn relish

    3 tablespoons fresh horseradish

    1 pint small curd cottage cheese

    1 stack of saltine crackers

    Mix the cottage cheese with the horseradish and spread liberally on cracker, top with a spoon of corn relish.

    Pepperoni Pie

    This can be an appetizer or a meal with the addition of a green salad and some bread or corn muffins.

    8 ounces shredded muenster cheese

    1 egg

    ¾ cup flour

    1 stick pepperoni, chopped in blender or processor

    ½ teaspoon oregano

    Mix half the cheese with the egg. Then put all together in a greased pie plate and bake at 425 degrees for 30 minutes. Sprinkle a bit more cheese on top and bake for two more minutes. Very easy.

  73. chigau (違う) says

    Run it through google translate.
    When I get home from away, I yell that at my house as I come through the door.

  74. chigau (違う) says

    So, I’m sitting on the patio, having a smoke and a drink.
    A skunk just run over my foot.
    and went on his way

  75. Morgan!? ♥ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ says

    I am glad you are here. This is the only place where I can say I am sad and crying. Too much death, too much deliberate infliction of pain, too much hopelessness, too much deliberate evil. How do you teach people to care?

  76. says

    Me, I’m in the pillow fort.
    I think I’m going to stay there for the rest of the year.
    Our washing machine is broken. If you’re thinking “wait, didn’t Giliell just tell us about her broken washing machine a mere 4 months ago?”, you’re exactly right. Yes, our 4 months old washing machine has some problem and knocks out that particular safety thingy that prevents you from getting grilled by some randomn electricity that somehow is flowing where it isn’t supposed to flow.
    The good thing is that since it’S within the first 6 months and therefore we’re safe and the vendor has to repair or exchange it.
    But all the spoons I already borrowed are by now creating interest. My emotional state right now is “Greece”: totally broke.

  77. Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought says

    Giliell, *hugs*

    I moved, with a little help from my friends.

  78. says

    Mended Drum is closed and gone for good.

    I’m considering doing away with the lounge, too, but it seems to be free of the drama so far, so I’m inclined not to. That could change.

  79. says

    F.O. at 107, thanks for the link to the article by Oliver Sacks. That was beautiful. I have enjoyed Sacks’s writing before, but this piece seems to be particularly clear, and deceptively simple.

  80. Morgan!? ♥ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ says

    Thank you for the link to Oliver Sacks’ article. His kind and gentle perspectives are not without sorrow, but they also possess a kind of optimism that sustains.

    Hugs for Giliell. Appliances are evil.

    Thanks to Anne and conga rats to Beatrice.

    Once more into the breach, my friends.

  81. Morgan!? ♥ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ says

    Giliell, the Lounge has a whole lot more kindness present than anything else. You will be missed. I hope you won’t be gone long and I hope the shit that is plaguing you dissipates soon.

  82. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Keep well Giliell, we’ll still be here if you come back.

  83. Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought says

    Giliell, I understand the feeling. Take care

  84. says

    […] Representative John Bradford referred to “The Gay Disease” in front of students without knowing that several of the students traveling happened to be.. you got it, Gay and Lesbian.

    John Bradford is a Republican from Kansas.

  85. says

    Yesterday, Saturday, another demonstration was held in Salt Lake City, a rally that featured a mass resignation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (mormons) — if you can call about 100 resignation a “mass resignation.”

    These rallies that highlight a ritual of resigning from the mormon church have become an annual affair. Unthinkable a decade ago, and now commonplace. It gives me hope.

    Close to 100 people marched through the streets of Salt Lake City Saturday to the headquarters of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints where they officially resigned from the Mormon Church.

    Participants in the mass-resignation event said women’s inequality and LGBT discrimination were just a few of the reasons behind why they officially resigned from the church. […]

    “The treatment of women and children and also the gay community to me the most disgusting and the cultural of obedience rather than free thinking,” [Stephanie ] Orgill said. […]

  86. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Yesterday was the hottest day of the summer so far, so not much got done. Today, I have put on my chef’s hat, and cooked the last of the fresh green beans, the fresh corn on the cob, and another 4 egg omelet for the Redhead’s breakfast for next week. I’m now resting before turning the remnants of last week’s rotisserie chicken carcass in chicken salad.

    For dinner, it appears to be more smothered pork chops. The secret? Walk away for an hour on simmer. Falls apart with a fork. Redhead approved.

  87. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    *sigh* Finally got the smothered pork chops ready, and the Redhead decided she didn’t want dinner (very tender and tasty were the chops). Maybe something in the middle of the night. *sigh*
    At least I don’t have to cook for a day…

  88. says

    Hi all,
    God I’m nervous. I need help again.
    I haven’t received a call back from the bar I applied at early last week, nor the government job I applied for (this wasn’t in the service industry; I thought to really branch out, plus the government offers benefits). I’m hoping I will hear from the entertainment complex I had the interview with last week. They said they were going to wait four or five days before deciding, which would put that at Monday or Tuesday. I’m going tomorrow to check out this food truck in town that’s hiring full time. But in the meantime I have no funds coming in and rent is coming up. I was really, really close to not asking for help again, bc I feel I’ve asked (IMO) too many times. But I’m down to the wire and I don’t have much in the way of options. My rent is $412, and if anyone could pitch in money that would be amazing. Hopefully I’ll have something soon, because I really need to (for a bunch of reasons, including getting out of the house).

    A good friend suggested something that I thought was a good idea. Since I feel awful asking for help, perhaps there’s a way I could give back. Since I have a good bit of time on my hands, and I’m a decent writer, if anyone knows of a socially progressive site that needs a writer, I could write for them on a volunteer basis. That way I can sort of give back for the kindness you folks have shown me. I just feel like I need to give something back, instead of taking. Thanks.

    (my paypal is t-a-n-t-h-o-n-y-v- at the yahoo thingee; without the dashes obviously)

    (p.s. Rowan, I haven’t forgotten, it’s just that without money I don’t even have transportation to get Kayta to a vet, so there’s no point in getting an estimate yet)

  89. rq says

    Take care.



    Moi, I have discovered that the worst thing about bee stings (multiple) is not the sting itself (*NOTE NO ALLERGIES HERE*) but the part where it starts itching and itching and itching and itching and itching and itching… And there’s one on the bottom of my foot.
    At least my left ring finger is looking less like a sausage today.

  90. birgerjohansson says

    Mano Singham: The origins of Scientology and Objectivism revealed (MUST-SEE!)
    Rare tornadoes hit northern Sweden they require great heat -rare as hen’s teeth up here.
    (OT) Crossroads: Mock the Movie transcript.
    Dan Aykroyd in a horror C-film?
    “Thought we were going to see the Hollywood Sign.” “We will. We’re going to go kill a guy first. We’ll be there to bury the body.”
    “Wait, that rock face. Was that where captain Kirk fought the Gorn!?”

  91. birgerjohansson says

    Satire from Grey Britain:

    “Increasingly evil and cunning seagulls open lettings agency”
    Seagull Tom Booker said: “Swooping on ice creams is a mug’s game. What you want is a bunch of bedsits you can let out at an extortionate rate with loads of obscure fees piled on top.
    Trainee nurse Emma Bradford said: “I rented a bedsit off the seagulls, their office reeks of fish and all the furniture is completely covered in birdshit.
    “Also they have these tiny, evil eyes which I think is fairly common among the lettings industry.”

    (To avoid overloading with links, I just post the titles here. You can google them for links)

    NASA probe submits $11bn claim for ‘travel to work’ expenses

    9/11 White House photos show Cheney looking guilty as hell
    Middle-class drinkers slur something about ‘being able to handle it’

    First-time buyers’ definition of London now includes Coventry
    MPs’ parents ‘dreading the summer holidays’

    Asking Kay Burley what’s wrong with her is ‘Pandora’s Box on steroids’
    Greeks apologise with huge horse

    Hipster-owned pets ashamed of their idiotic names
    Tour de France reaches infamous wine tasting stage

    Nazis ‘furious’ over links to British Royal Family
    SNP to renounce nationalism in favour of ‘pissing off Cameron’

    Greek credit rating identified as new pentaquark particle
    Obama ‘frustrated by gun-loving shitheads’

  92. Saad says

    Stone County (Missouri) sheriff defends “In God We Trust” stickers displayed on the back of police vehicles

    The sheriff of Stone County, Missouri, is is [sic] defending “In God we trust” stickers placed on the back of police vehicles, saying plastering them on the cars is the “patriotic” thing to do, reports Fox2Now.

    Sheriff Doug Rader of Stone County made a great show of displaying the new stickers, posting multiple pictures of vehicles on the sheriff’s department Facebook page, writing that the phrase is “our National motto.”

    “I am proud to announce that all of the Stone County Sheriff’s Office Patrol vehicles now have ‘In God we trust’ on the back,” the message stated. “This became our National Motto in 1956 and is on all of our currency. There has been no better time than now to proudly display our National Motto!”

    [. . .]

    In an interview with KSPR, Sheriff Rader defended the stickers, saying, “It is part of our heritage, it’s patriotic. I mean, ‘In God we trust’ has been our national motto since 1956.”

  93. birgerjohansson says

    Should it not be “In [name of that Roman god of wealth and penises] we trust”? Because wealth and being a complete prick are the common qualities of so many influential people.
    Also, there is a Roman god of manure…

    “The sky” (XKCD)
    WATCH: Lewis Black’s side-splitting 2011 monologue about ‘President Trump’ is even more hilarious now
    The Faroe Islands are almost all mountains, but not a single one of them has a tree on it, so a lot of young Faroese children get a huge “Wow!” moment when they visits places like Norway or Sweden. Sorta like growing up in the proterozoic?
    The misleading war on GMO’s ; The food is safe, the rethoric is dangerous.

    I have discovered the science fiction by Simon Morden*. He has a tetralogy about a grumpy physics doctor who becomes a cyberpunk hero by sort of default. First book good, later books better.

    *in swedish, “morden” would mean “the murders”.

  94. birgerjohansson says

    …I meant Priapus and Sterquilinus The latter would be the god of people who spews bullshit.
    The Bush administration -although nominally fundie christian- was chiefly composed by Priapus worshippers.

  95. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    awakeinmo, Ruiner of Things #69

    I am “the other woman” in my relationship. I will agree with other posters here and say you did the right thing with the condoms. As to any moral or ethical concerns you have to the situation, don’t entangle yourself.

    Thanks. I don’t think I have much trouble with the complexity of mulitple relationships, apart from not considering being able to deal it on ethical level (there is probably no simple way to deal with it, and anything human sorted out have always been incomplete or screwing up somewhere, I have yet to see a middle unmuddled way…). I’m going for the very simple way of being fair because it’s the easier one, but it works only as long as life is “easy”. I perfectly understand people will have to elaborate on this base strategy, and I’m fine with it. Real life is not a binary compile in a logical world with either rights and wrongs.

    But the willingness to go unprotected with a one night stand with an unknown folk while committed and parenting on a regular basis is not something I consider ethical for sure. Especially since I was the one to ask other people for condoms as if it were for myself around people that know my situation. My life can be dramatically damaged by this, and the botherance is me having to ponder heavily about the risks I was taking with regard to potential health benefits for people I didn’t know (his wife and kids).

    That said, my cocnerns only bothered that specific day. There’s room for me to weight in ethical subtleties but the annoyance is gone.

    As far as I’m concerned, I think the perspective of radical honesty is probably an interesting way to go. The only thing with radical honesty is that it fails many jokes in the daily routine… :)

  96. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    Oh, and I am back to an erratic and difficult connection to the intertubes (back to the jungles). I don’t have much time to write, but I have something interesting about mosquitoes (I think I may convert Tony back into admirating these beauties :). Maybe later if Lounge is still standing.

  97. opposablethumbs says

    A disconcerting thing happened on my way to the Lounge …

    An old friend visited at the weekend; xe is Spanish/French and has been living for the last couple of decades in Brazil. Seems that an Argentinean ex-pat xe got to know there quite some years ago, who hung out occasionally with xir family (and taught xir spawn to make proper pizza) was recently revealed to be living in Brazil under a false name, wanted (and now arrested) by Interpol for crimes against humanity. Turns out that this charming and apparently socially and politically aware person is a torturer who fled Argentina and created a false identity after the fall of the military dictatorship. Friend and xir family were about as gut-kicked as you might imagine to find this out (it’s weird to think that of xir own parents, the French one is a child-of-deportees (jewish deportees, I mean, under nazism in WW2) and they’re all life-long left-wingers whom this person would have murdered without batting an eye had they crossed paths under the dictatorship).

  98. Nick Gotts says

    Since there’s nowhere else to announce it, I’ll just note here that I’m resigning as a monitor. Partly because I’m just not so regular a commenter or even reader as I used to be, but the shit Giliell refers to@117 is also a factor.

  99. Okidemia, fishy on the shore term, host reach in the long run says

    opposablethumbs #142
    That barely surprises myself. Brasil is a famous place for transfuges, whatever they did in the past. You better never ask long term residents why they migrated to Brasil in the first place…

  100. says

    Tony, send me an email. I may have a lead on a writing job. It’s sporadic, by-the-project work for the guy that founded Global Health Equity Foundation,

    You can reach me via email by visiting

  101. says

    There’s more bad news out of Texas. This news is kind of typical (anti-equal-rights), and not typical at the same time. The not-typical part is the odd action taken by the Texas State Supreme Court.

    Republicans hold all of the seats on that court, and those Republicans took some fairly unprecedented actions to halt the implementation of anti-discrimination measures aimed at ending discrimination against LGBT persons in employment (general), housing, being hired to fulfill city contracts (specific).

    […] In order to put a city ordinance to referendum, opponents must gather 17,269 signatures. Opponents of Houston’s nondiscrimination law didn’t do that. Instead, they gathered several thousand valid signatures and several thousand forgeries. Minus the forgeries, they failed to reach the minimum threshold of signatures. The Texas Supreme Court doesn’t care. Instead, it decided for itself that the signatures were valid. Then it ordered that enforcement of the ordinance be immediately stopped and compelled the city council to consider repealing it. If the council fails to repeal it, the ordinance must be put to a popular vote in the November 2015 election.

    The Texas Supreme Court did not really render a legal judgment in this case. It resuscitated the campaign against an equal rights ordinance that it clearly didn’t like. […]

    Slate link

    There are two women, and seven men on the Texas State Supreme Court. All right-wingers.

  102. Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought says

    Well, shit.
    *hugs* for everyone esp. Tony

  103. cicely says

    *hopping aboard the speeding Thread*
    ‘Mornin’, all.


    My issue stems from the toxic masculinity crap of my father. Crying was bad and “if you cry, I’ll give you something to cry about” type shit.
    So I need to be overloaded and overwhelmed before I let it out.

    My own, similar problem in this respect is all about my mother’s approach to parenting—if you cry about something, that means it matters, and if it matters, then it’s a weapon put into her hands—for later.
    And emotion-tied weapons have no expiration date.
    Never brief the enemy.
    Hurray for Getting Stuff Done!

    *appropriate gestures of support and sympathy* for WMDKitty. I’m sorry about your friend.

    Best of luck to your Tony-kitty, Jafafa Hots.

    Congrats and Well Done on the thesis, Giliell!

    Kevin Anthoney:

    The protester in the photo at this article is carrying a sign saying “No nukes for Iran”. Does she think that the current talks with Iran are aimed at giving them access to nuclear weapons??

    Because Obama hates America.

    You are not the keeper of this man’s conscience.
    Adding condoms to the situation-as-described seems to me to take a whole range of additional Possible Bad Outcomes off the table—which I count a good thing.

    What I don’t understand is why I’m the one feeling bad in that story.

    Social conditioning.
    I see this situation as being very like the one being played out over and over in religiot-influenced USAia—since it’s an article of faith (literally as well as simply figuratively-of-speech) that teens having sex is bad, providing them with any kind of birth control or education with which to protect themselves is also bad.
    And so, we have higher rates of unwanted teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease in Fundagelical USAia.


  104. blf says

    taps keyboard hello, is this fing on?
    nasty things flicker on the screen, shoos the mildly deranged penguin, screen is now stable albeit with a lingering smell of herring… hello?
    the intertruds, er, tubes, is staying connected fer the minute, it’s even been up for the last few hours, which is N100%’s improvement. not that I fink teh problem is fi——…

  105. says

    Oh, hell no. A minister in Kentucky wants to be free to tell young LBGT detainees in Juvenile Detention centers that they are going to hell.

    The Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice (DJJ) has a policy (Policy 912) that requires that lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning, and intersex (LGBTQI) juveniles be treated with respect for their identities. A minister who volunteered to work with young people at the Warren County Regional Juvenile Detention Center is now challenging that policy after his services were revoked because he refused to comply with it.

    Minister David Wells of the Pleasant View Baptist Church in McQuady, KY is represented by the anti-LGBT Liberty Counsel, which sent a letter to the DJJ on his behalf threatening legal action if the policy is not lifted and Wells reinstated. Wells refused to sign a statement promising to refrain from ever telling juvenile inmates that homosexuality was “sinful.”

    Specifically, the policy requires that volunteers not use “derogatory language in a manner that conveys bias towards or hatred of the LGBTQI community” and that they “shall not imply or tell LGBTQI juveniles that they are abnormal, deviant, sinful, or that they can or should change their sexual orientation or gender identity.” […]

    “Many juveniles are in DJJ custody because of sexual crimes,” […] “and Mr. Wells must be able to discuss the Bible and matters of sexuality with inmates, and he therefore was unable to sign the form.” The letter [from Liberty Counsel] strongly argues that condemning homosexuality and describing it as the consequence of abuse are vital to the work Wells was doing. […] The letter does not qualify exactly what it means that he [Wells] “went on to overcome that abuse,” but given how Liberty Counsel believes that such abuse causes homosexuality and promotes the idea of people “overcoming unwanted same-sex attractions,” this may be a coded way of indicating that Wells is ex-gay himself.

    The Liberty Counsel, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has identified as a hate group for its anti-LGBT rhetoric, regularly defends ex-gay therapy and other anti-gay and gay-shaming policies with similar rhetoric. […]

    Liberty Counsel Chairman Mat Staver, who has compared gay rights advocates to Hamas terrorists, […]


  106. says

    Right wing talk radio pundit and religious powerhouse gets everything wrong … again:

    […] “Last night we had this shooting in Lafayette, Louisiana,” [Bryan] Fischer said on his Friday radio show. The media was ready to go crazy on this guy. He claimed to be affiliated with the Tea Party Nation, then they found out he filled out a profile in 2013 but he never gave, he never donated anything, he never participated, he never contributed anything, there’s no picture of him, nobody has ever met him in a Tea Party group. So that all fizzled out. And then it turns out that he supported Barack Obama. He was a big time Barack Obama supporter, voted for him in 2012, so all of the air has gone out of that balloon” […]

    Of course, anyone willing to do two minutes of basic research would have quickly learned that Fischer’s representation of Houser’s views is entirely false, as Houser was a right-wing extremist who reportedly “hated taxes, liberals, newspapers, gays and the United States,” and who was a regular ultra-conservative commentator on local Georgia political programs where he was well-known as a “radical Republican.” […]

    – See more at: Link

  107. says

    Far rightwing hate for putting an image of a woman on the $10 bill:

    […]”People really do need to get outraged and stay outraged about this,” Hillyer continued, “because this isn’t just about a face on a bill, this is about maintaining, preserving, respecting, honoring the history, the good history of the greatest nation ever created on earth.”

    For his part, Barton claimed that adding a woman to the $10 bill would “denigrate” the Department of Treasury and, by extension, our entire economic system, while co-host Rick Green declared that such a move would be “bad news for the history of our country.” […]


  108. Rowan vet-tech says



    I got caught up in a facebook convo with an atheist guy who is anti-abortion but “If anyone wants to have a calm, rational discussion about the arguments, let’s do it. If you want to scream or type abusive messages, piss off.”

    This oh so calm, rational guy just compared forcing me to carry a fetus to term, to being forced to pay taxes, some of which go to help people get enough to eat. And then later compared people who want abortions to slave owners.

  109. cicely says

    The only thing that works for me is to remind myself that the good people exist, too.

    *moar hugs* for Giliell.
    Come back when/if you can/wish.

    And the same to WMDKitty, as well.


    *hugs* for Rowan, as well.

  110. says

    Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, was apparently lobbied by the Scientology cult to reduce funding for mental health services, and to veto laws that would improve mental health care.

    […] Abbott last week vetoed a mental health bill passed by his fellow conservatives in the state legislature, and he did so apparently at the request of the nation’s most infamous cult.

    […] according to the Texas Tribune, […] Abbott likely vetoed the bill after being lobbied by a group called the Citizens Commission on Human Rights. In addition to its opposition to fluoridation of drinking water, the CCHR also believes that Big Pharma controls everything and everyone. (Red flags, anyone?) Back in 2005, the CCHR opened a museum called “Psychiatry: An Industry of Death,” which links modern psychiatry to Hilter and other villains. The group also alleged that the 9/11 attacks were spearheaded not by Osama Bin Laden, but by his psychiatrist. […]

    Oh, and one more thing. The CCHR is a tax exempt organization sponsored by the Church of Scientology. (In other words, Greg Abbott killed SB359 at the request of intergalactic warlord Xenu.) […] Link

  111. blf says

    (Slowly gets up off the floor after being jumped on by cicely, muttering not to try that brand again…)

    It’s back! Perhaps the best Italian restaurant in the village used to have a most amusing, not-so-subtly suggestive painting in the unisex toilet: The painting was of a seemingly-naked “Italian” macho-type guy with a big grin. Hanging in front of the painting from something you couldn’t see, in precisely the correct place, was a real straw boater’s hat.

    It always made me giggle whenever I went to the toilet there; doubly so since you sortof wonder “what is that doing in a rather nice restaurant like this?”

    Anyways, it disappeared, replaced by nothing, during some renovations earlier this year (including the installation of a pizza oven — there’s been a recent rash of that here lately, which perhaps the second-best Italian restaurant also installing a pizza oven). I was disappointed to see it go, albeit puzzled nothing replaced it.

    And it’s back! The toilet is again a place for a mild chuckle. (The pizzas seem to be very good as well.)

  112. birgerjohansson says

    A derelict Soviet-era submarine has been found in Swedish waters, close to the shore. The submarine has no obvious damage, the hatches are closed, the diameter is 3 m, length is 20m. It is marked with cyrillic letters. The Swedish authorities have made no comments at this time.
    The closed hatches may indicate the crew never made it out.

  113. says

    Dunderheads in southern states are not done harassing people in order to vent their anger over Confederate flags being removed from many public and/or government facilities:

    […] In an Atlanta suburb this past weekend, Melissa Alford (a black woman) and her family were hosting an outdoor birthday party in Douglasville, Georgia, when a convoy of seven large pickup trucks donning Confederate flags interrupted the party and pulled into the grass. The occupants then called them niggers and threatened them with violence, according to multiple eyewitnesses, who also stated that the men actually flashed guns at them […]

    Video at the link.

  114. Vilém Saptar says

    Grats on the apartment and the moving!!!

    Wish I could help, but I can’t atm. I can only offer best wishes.