Females didn’t seek out a mate if they had recently had sex, displaying a white stripe across the body to let males know they were unavailable (although the males quite often failed to get the message)
Aquatic MRAs discovered.
Cuttlefishsays
Or, y’know… Friday.
peterhsays
# 2 stole it partially: I suggest whether it’s either or both of the above it’s still fairly irrelevant.
Can we have a thread about 50 Shades of Grey and why it’s a Very Bad Example of how to do a relationship? It… pretty much depicts an abusive relationship, and glamorizes and romanticizes it.
And that’s before we get into the part where it’s a terrible representation of BDSM!
This is a thread with 50 Shades in the title, go ahead and hijack it!
=8)-DXsays
Anyone who wants to have an idea about why fifty shades of gray is horrible should just go off to jenny trout’s blog and read her chapter-by-chapter review.
This is also pretty much the only way of actually getting a meaningful and worthwhile experience out of it: derisive laughter, searing hatred of what 50 shades represents and tears of frustration at a work of fiction consistently getting it all so stupidly wrong are well worth it.
Okay, that was worth it, and it avoided the triggering parts.
PZ
Oh, cool, I get to threadjack with permission!
So… yeah, I can’t escape “50 Shades”.
It’s everywhere.
And it’s really disturbing that so many people are reading this… this stuff… and calling it sexy, and romantic, and basically putting the abusive relationship up on a pedestal as “ideal”.
While I haven’t read the books (and do not plan to ever do so because I do not need the ensuing nightmares) I understand that — at the end — he’s magically changed from controlling abuser to perfect husband.
I cannot describe just how much I hate E. L. James for this! She Did Not Do The Research, on SO many counts, that relationship (if you can call it that) is a continent-spanning super-forest of red flags, and did she stop, even once, to consider that maybe she should consult someone (anyone!) other than a fellow Twihard to proof-read that dreck?
And now? How many teenage girls* and young women are going to end up in an abusive situation because all they see around them is the message that stalking, jealousy, and control are “so romantic” and presented as normal? (I have the same problem with “Twilight”, with the added dimension of wolfy pedophila.)
* Not always with parental permission or approval — I remember smuggling books — but teen girls are reading “50 Shades” and other explicit material.
Aquatic MRAs discovered.
Or, y’know… Friday.
# 2 stole it partially: I suggest whether it’s either or both of the above it’s still fairly irrelevant.
PZ
Can we have a thread about 50 Shades of Grey and why it’s a Very Bad Example of how to do a relationship? It… pretty much depicts an abusive relationship, and glamorizes and romanticizes it.
And that’s before we get into the part where it’s a terrible representation of BDSM!
http://theramblingcurl.blogspot.com/2014/02/fifty-abusive-moments-in-fifty-shades.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peggy-andover-phd/sexual-assault_b_1919583.html
http://iam.yellingontheinternet.com/2013/02/03/the-glorification-of-abuse-in-50-shades/
http://academyofwomenshealth.org/videos/50-shades-of-grey/
Fifty Shades of Fhtagn?
*blinks*
*rereads*
*nods*
@WMDKitty #4
There is only one thing about the whole mess I can think of that isn’t horrible.
Grewgills @7
Oh my!
This is a thread with 50 Shades in the title, go ahead and hijack it!
Anyone who wants to have an idea about why fifty shades of gray is horrible should just go off to jenny trout’s blog and read her chapter-by-chapter review.
This is also pretty much the only way of actually getting a meaningful and worthwhile experience out of it: derisive laughter, searing hatred of what 50 shades represents and tears of frustration at a work of fiction consistently getting it all so stupidly wrong are well worth it.
You want a GOOD example of what BDSM means and BDSM erotica?
http://www.deviantart.com/art/just-some-volume-2-513920950
http://www.amazon.com/Sunstone-OGN-Stjepan-Sejic/dp/1632152126/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y
Two perspectives on 50 shades that I found interesting: unshavedmouse and OhJoySexToy (NSFW comic).
grewgills
Okay, that was worth it, and it avoided the triggering parts.
PZ
Oh, cool, I get to threadjack with permission!
So… yeah, I can’t escape “50 Shades”.
It’s everywhere.
And it’s really disturbing that so many people are reading this… this stuff… and calling it sexy, and romantic, and basically putting the abusive relationship up on a pedestal as “ideal”.
While I haven’t read the books (and do not plan to ever do so because I do not need the ensuing nightmares) I understand that — at the end — he’s magically changed from controlling abuser to perfect husband.
I cannot describe just how much I hate E. L. James for this! She Did Not Do The Research, on SO many counts, that relationship (if you can call it that) is a continent-spanning super-forest of red flags, and did she stop, even once, to consider that maybe she should consult someone (anyone!) other than a fellow Twihard to proof-read that dreck?
And now? How many teenage girls* and young women are going to end up in an abusive situation because all they see around them is the message that stalking, jealousy, and control are “so romantic” and presented as normal? (I have the same problem with “Twilight”, with the added dimension of wolfy pedophila.)
* Not always with parental permission or approval — I remember smuggling books — but teen girls are reading “50 Shades” and other explicit material.