I get email from entitled jerks


See note at bottom from Richard Carrier.

This person was very anxious to contact me and get a reply, and sent me a couple of messages on twitter and in email. I gave him a shot. I shouldn’t have bothered.

Dear PZ,

My name is JC, and I’m a philosopher. I’m working on a project with Richard Carrier at the moment (the project ‘666’)

and I wish to speak to you about atheism plus.

Why? I am not an organizer for Atheism+, nor do I play an active role in it. I support their cause. That’s about it.

It’s just gotten really weird here. I also support the goals of the Freedom from Religion Foundation and the Nature Conservancy, but no one writes to me asking me to explain and defend their policies; no one is confused and thinks that maybe I’m the president of the Audobon Society or American Atheists, but somehow I get collared all the time as the head honcho of Atheism+.

Write to them. They have a forum, and it’s open to the public.

You want a discussion, but it’s not a promising beginning that you are so grossly uninformed.

As far as I’m concerned, (and I have illustrated this here www.anti-theism.co.uk/politics.html ) you and your group are nothing more than over zealous feminists,

No. Atheism+ has many other concerns besides feminism — they are atheists who are interested in progressive social causes.

And “over zealous feminists”…there’s nothing over-zealous here. That you would think so leads me to think that the problem, instead, is that you’re a zealous anti-feminist.

swallowed by the agenda of the ‘new’ feminists and
lost in that part of the argument, though I believe you have a lot to offer.

What, pray tell, is that agenda? Again, it’s rather obvious that you come bearing quite a load of prejudices, biases so deeply ingrained that you don’t even think you need to state them.

The split between ‘atheism’ > philosophically nihilist if it follows science, and atheism plus > pracitically (possibly) better though
principly dry, confuses me as you have a lot of smart constituents (including you and Carrier) that ignore the philosophy.

That was completely incoherent, and I have no idea what you’re talking about.

I have a daughter, it’s important that I understand fully. Would it be a waste of your time to edify my confusion, if you can?

You’re talking to the wrong person here. You don’t need an atheist’s assistance, you need some remedial feminism, because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

He sent me a follow-up. I guess he was impatient for a reply.

Assume I’m vindictive, you’re wrong. I’m honest.

Will you respond?

After reading your post that you linked to, I’d have to say all the evidence suggests that you’re both vindictive and dishonest, and to that I’ll add deeply ignorant.


Now this is getting really annoying. He was pestering me on twitter, saying he couldn’t get an email through; I temporarily followed him so he could private message me, and all he did there was tell me to check my email, that he had something to say that he couldn’t fit into 140 characters, so I unfollowed him. Then checked my email to find the above short sloppy message.

Then I went out to the grocery store. We were out of toilet paper.

Now he’s quite irate that I didn’t respond to him instantly, and is telling people to retweet his demands until I reply.

jc

Rude, arrogant, ignorant, and annoying. Blocked now.


Richard Carrier has responded.

Not a friend of mine. Someone who bought a chapter of mine for an anthology over a year ago (and that’s it; we aren’t “working on a project together” except in the rather droll sense that he is putting a chapter I wrote years ago into a book he is editing; I also have never heard of him being a “philosopher” in any formal sense–he has never stated any qualifications to me).

He only started talking shit about this long after we’d signed the contract (in fact, after I delivered the product, for which I still have not been paid, although I’m not expected to be until the book publishes). I told him to knock it off until our contract is completed and we are no longer in a business relationship. Then I was going to instruct him on his stupidity. But evidently he couldn’t wait and just went full assclown instead (and on you, I guess, since being a professional, I wouldn’t play; obviously he’s not big on being professional himself).

Comments

  1. Janine the Jackbooted Emotion Queen says

    I am a very important philosopher. Stop what you are doing and answer my questions! You need to justify what I imagined you believe in!

    The Richard Sanderson Gambit.

  2. otrame says

    Tell him your fee as a consulting atheist/feminist is $250 an hour and you require a 5 hour retainer up front.

  3. carlie says

    That is a stunningly breathtaking example of entitlement, right there. Wow. I’ve never had an actual boss of mine act that entitled to my time, even when on the clock. Astounding. I bet he’s a real treat to customer service staff everywhere he goes.

  4. says

    There was a whole HALF HOUR between his email and the time I sat down to post this reply, and in that time I had 6 emails and twitter comments from him demanding a response. Now. Hurry up. Why aren’t you answering me immediately?

    Jebus.

  5. Richard C. says

    I find it incredible that Richard Carrier would be working with this guy on anything. Maybe he’s working on a hit piece about you and Carrier. But Carrier working with this guy? Nah brah….

  6. yazikus says

    I think “edify my confusion” should become a meme.

    Martin, yes, that was my thought as well.

    Was it just me, or does this just seem like a quicker and easier to read version of the whole MN saga?

  7. says

    His article on ‘confirmation bias’ (PZ quoted the URL in the OP, but it was not hyperlinked) is revealing; JC isn’t much of a philosopher as his ideas are confused, nor is he a writer, since his idea of prose is to throw in words at random regardless of whether they help his argument. As for the puffed up self-importance of ‘working with Richard Carrier’, I suppose RC must have some unpromising students in his classes!

  8. tulse says

    Methinks he’s a Sea Lion.

    I would like to have a civil conversation about your statement…

  9. Vicki, duly vaccinated tool of the feminist conspiracy says

    If you are having a medical emergency, please hang up log off and dial 911.

  10. Big Boppa says

    I Googled 666 project and clicked on one of the top links. It crashed my browser. Fortunately I was on a Linux box. I’d hate to think what might have happened if it were Windows with IE.

  11. carlie says

    It’s amazing how some people think that there is literally NO other way to obtain information on a topic than to pick a person and try to hound them into giving a personalized private lesson on said topic. And that they do this ON THE INTERNET.

  12. grumpyoldfart says

    Check out his postscript to an article about Sam Harris:

    post script,
    I do not wish Sam to respond to this post on his blog. There is a current trend of people calling out others to claim some of their fame for themselves. If Sam wishes to discuss this further and privately, I suggest he e-mail me.
    JC
    http://www.anti-theism.co.uk/themarionettesconfusion.html

    Is he saying that people like Harris have been contacting him just so they can share his (JC’s) fame? Or is he saying that he (JC) doesn’t want to claim any fame from Harris, and that’s why he asked for no response? I’m buggered if I can work it out.

  13. hoku says

    I for one, am interested to see where this goes from here. I’m guessing rant and then goes away, with an outside shot at a scene in a movie hes making where he yells at an empty chair with a PZ Meyers name tag.

  14. Moggie says

    666.
    The sixth letter of the alphabet is ‘F’.
    So project 666 could be ‘FFF’.
    This is either an acronym (‘freedom from…’), or the sound of gas escaping.
    So far, it sounds more like the latter.

  15. jaybee says

    Big Boppa — I ran the experiment (IE11,windows 7). the666.com was the top link. The page looks atrocious, like a bad 1998 website with garish colors, dozens of animated gifs, scrollling text, etc. But it works, and didn’t crash.

    So, faced with the empirical evidence, I fully expect you to know reflexively moan at every opportunity just how bad and unstable linux is.

  16. Janine the Jackbooted Emotion Queen says

    I have been speaking with this person on Twitter.

    Seems to think he can defeat most people in debates on philosophy.

    And cannot understand just how he could be seen as an arrogant ass demanding people’s time.

  17. carlie says

    HAHAHA! grumpyoldfart, he’s saying that the act of publishing one of his emails on a blog and answering it publicly is “only for the hits”. He thinks that the only proper response to his email requests is a private email response, and that telling anyone about said emails is trying to ride his huge coattails. Because everyone knows that when JC emails you, baby, you’ve got it made, and just telling the world that he’s emailed you will guarantee fame and fortune to you.

  18. says

    Has anyone contacted Richard Carrier about this guy’s behaviour? If he actually is working with him on something, he might want to talk to him. This guy is embarrassing and utterly clueless.

  19. specialffrog says

    This project seems to be a book to which Carrier, Krauss, Steven Rose and other have allegedly contributed chapters. However, most of the evidence for the book’s existence is a mention in the Wikipedia articles of these contributors that looks like it was itself added by ‘JC’, one of the editors of this book.

    The stated publisher of this book, “Dangerous Little Books”, looks like a vanity press for angry atheists but that might be unfair on my part.

  20. rq says

    I wish someone would edify my confusion about why these sorts of people think they should be considered relevant enough to warrant a complete diversion from one’s ordinary daily routine. Honestly, PZ chose well: toilet paper is definitely a priority over this idiot.

  21. says

    The ‘666 Project’ was advertised by JC himself as a debate series (6 Atheists 6 Theists 6 Topics) on an old Twitter link, here’s a flyer advertising a debate between Lawrence Krauss and Sir Colin Humphreys:
    https://twitter.com/TheismAnti/status/462320253805285376/photo/1
    However the URL linked in the Tweet no longer works, here’s archive.org’s snapshot from last May:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140512215258/http://www.anti-theism.co.uk/666.html
    I suspect the debate series project didn’t get off the ground?

  22. Jana T says

    @32

    Why am I not surprised that this wonderful project of insightful debate set up by JC features only white dudes?

  23. Big Boppa says

    Jaybee @24

    Not looking for an OS flame war, but I work in IT on many different platforms and haven’t ever had to deal with malware on a Linux box. However, I did just spent 4 hours last week removing malware from a user’s Win7 PC because she downloaded what she thought was a free copy of a package called Sketchup.

    I’m not a Linux fanboy. In fact, I use Windows every day – just happened to be on a Linux box when I tried the 666 Project link – and you’re right, the site is atrocious. That’s why I thought it might be the kind of site that would do a drive-by install of who knows what. I suggest you scan your computer.

  24. Kevin Kehres says

    A half an hour? Seriously, I’ve taken dumps that lasted longer than that — and I don’t tweet on the shitter.

  25. aziraphale says

    I Googled 666 project in Google Chrome on Windows 7. My eyesight may not recover, but the PC is fine.

  26. Ichthyic says

    Not looking for an OS flame war, but I work in IT on many different platforms and haven’t ever had to deal with malware on a Linux box.

    sorry, but just like with apple OS, that has less to do with the security of the OS, and much more to do with who is targeting and why.

    there’s nothing magical about how programs are protected from attack in any OS. The reason you hear about MS OS being so viral prone… is simply because that’s what most of the malware is designed to attack, period.

    as an IT guy, you should know this already. If not, you need to spend more time on the security forums.

  27. Big Boppa says

    Ichthyic

    I do know it. I just didn’t say so in my post. You say yourself that MS is virus prone. That’s because it’s because it’s the biggest target. And that’s why I spend so much of my time having to clean up after careless users.

  28. says

    Jana T (at 33), I was underwhelmed by the selection as well! Apparently the debates are scheduled for February 2015, which is why we are witnessing a flurry of activity from JC right now — perhaps annoying PZ on Twitter and sending obstreperous e-mails is part of a viral media campaign to publicise his debates! I also discovered: YouTube promo dated 5 May 2014
    To save you all watching, it’s fairly short on content, consisting of a few sound bites from Krauss, Humphreys, Douglas Wilson, and Carrier, spruiking over a lugubrious sound track, plus some randomly selected footage before listing the debates. The Wilson and Carrier sound bites are obviously lifted from footage obtained at panels or conferences. The sixth debate is a little short on detail:

    Richard Carrier vs (tba)
    Debating – Ressurection [sic]

    One would have hoped in the intervening eight months JC could have updated the video to list Carrier’s opponent and correct his spelling. Also, why is JC so self-effacing in only identifying himself by his initials?

  29. says

    Addendum: as of 30 June, Carrier is apparently going to be debating Greg Monette. Totally surprising for it to be a dude only series. Totally. Also, that page has the theme of the project as ‘6 Atheists 6 Christians 6 Topics’ so there’s obvious diversity of religious viewpoints too!

  30. Sastra says

    Richard C #8 wrote:

    I find it incredible that Richard Carrier would be working with this guy on anything. Maybe he’s working on a hit piece about you and Carrier. But Carrier working with this guy? Nah brah….

    Maybe he’s now pestering Richard Carrier by introducing himself as someone who is working on a project with P.Z. Myers at the moment (the project “I Get Email.”)

  31. says

    I can report that opening that link from an Android device is AAARRRGGHHH MY EYES MY EYES MY EYES ARE BLEEDING THE PAIN MAKE IT STOP…

  32. says

    Sastra, I’ll have you know that At This Very Moment, I Am Working With PZ Myers on our latest project. It’s called, The Pharyngula Commenting Project. I like to refer to it as ‘the PCP’. It’s high quality stuff!

  33. says

    If that’s the case, I’d like to announce that I’m now working with Elizabeth Warren on Project 99%, about which I emailed her just yesterday. This will involve pushing all of Wall Street into a wood chipper, after going through their pockets looking for loose billion-dollar coins, with which we will bootstrap the poor into being, well, not poor.
     
    She…hasn’t made her support for the project publicly yet. I’m sure it’s because her smart phone is having Wi-Fi issues.

  34. says

    His newest tweet on the matter:
    https://twitter.com/TheismAnti/status/557306676676947969

    I’m asking for @thunderf00t ‘s support, @pzmyers is saying he’s not active in A+’s cause http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/01/19/i-get-email-from-entitled-jerks/ …, is that true? Hm.

    I really do not understand what he would be asking for. What support does he want? Someone to say “Good for you, pestering that awful PZ Myers”? He seems to have a strange need to associate himself with other, more famous people, some sort of John Kwokism going on here.

  35. lesherb says

    This man is mentally ill. If he truly has a daughter, CPS should be informed. Entitlement is the least of his problems.

  36. Roberto Teixeira says

    Don’t worry. thunderf00t is now involved. That will interest PZ in unblocking the guy.

  37. lorn says

    PZ – “There was a whole HALF HOUR between his email and the time I sat down to post this reply, and in that time I had 6 emails and twitter comments from him demanding a response. Now. Hurry up. Why aren’t you answering me immediately?”

    I see this a lot. A lot of, mostly younger folks, live with their phones in their hands 24/7 and haven’t caught onto the idea that some people can go most of an entire day without Tweeting, IMing, perusing Facebook, or checking e-mail. Hell, I even send and receive snail-mail letters that take three whole days to get where they are going. An answer in under a week is considered “prompt”.

  38. says

    @37,Ichthyic

    sorry, but just like with apple OS, that has less to do with the security of the OS, and much more to do with who is targeting and why.

    If that were true, there would be obvious ways to test the assertion. As Mac OS X’s market share has been growing, one would expect the amount of malware for OS X systems to be increasing. (Particularly since the perception — true or not — is that OS X users are “rich” and aren’t technically inclined.) It isn’t — in fact, there still isn’t any malware for OS X (or Linux) which doesn’t require the user to take an active role in compromising the system (by entering an administrative password, or deliberately disabling security), whereas a user can be entirely passive on Windows and have the system compromised, even on Windows 8. One would also expect the amount of malware available for different OSes to be related to the installed base; again, this is not true — there is not a linear or exponential relationship between the amount of malware available and the installed base (particularly for Linux, which has a huge installed base on servers). For that matter, Android has had vastly more malware than iOS more or less since the two were both available, even back when Android had a tiny installed base.

    The fact of the matter is: Microsoft is terribly careless about their engineering, the Windows codebase is filled with special cases inserted to permit Microsoft’s own programs to do “special” things which aren’t well-documented for third parties, and Microsoft has a history of leaving unnecessary things (services or just APIs) turned on by default. One of those three might not be so bad, but the combination of the three means that Windows is going to be insecure unless and until they dump the whole codebase and rewrite from scratch with a new team who doesn’t think the way their old team does. </off-topic>

  39. says

    A lot of, mostly younger folks, live with their phones in their hands 24/7 and haven’t caught onto the idea that some people can go most of an entire day without Tweeting, IMing, perusing Facebook, or checking e-mail…

    Yeah, and you’d think a ‘philosopher’ might be a mite more, I dunno, deliberate about stuff? Thoughtful, even? And might therefore even grasp that some folk might actually like to think a bit about what they write, before they do. Might want to take a bit, even, to work out just whoinhell you might be before we waste time and keystrokes on you, take a little time to consider: so is this a waste of my finite breath? (I mean, being all philosophical, as we’re apparently trying to be here, surely I must first remember I am mortal.)

    There’s something pretty singular about it, when you stop for a second, seems to me. This notion not only that you are owed an answer, but that you may set the deadline, and surely none of this stuff requires any actual particularly deep thought, does it?

    I begin to wonder if it’s a common marker of the anti-SJW types in general. Get enough self-absorption, comically preening overconfidence, and intellectual laziness together in the same package, and congratulations! You have devised a rapid-fire delivery mechanism for ill-considered and poorly-written screeds smearing all things vaguely progressive! Whether this is measurably more useful to the world than one more chatbot script is left as an exercise for the reader.

  40. says

    @lorn

    It’s funny, cuz it’s my mother I have that problem with. I’ll take a break at work and find out she’s sent me five text messages in the last fifteen minutes, four of them asking why I didn’t respond to her first text.

  41. Vicki, duly vaccinated tool of the feminist conspiracy says

    It’s not just about connectivity: Even when I am online, emails from strangers aren’t my top priority. I’m not going to stop and answer them if I’m working, writing email to my beloved, or checking the weather before heading out, to see if I need a coat.

  42. Ichthyic says

    particularly for Linux, which has a huge installed base on servers

    and so does microsoft, and in ten years of managing both linux and MS servers… I never ever had a problem with any malware.

    again, BOTH systems require active fuckups by users to allow for security breaches ON SERVERS.

    BOTH systems can easily be tightened up.

    As Mac OS X’s market share has been growing, one would expect the amount of malware for OS X systems to be increasing

    if you think it’s all about money, then yeah. If not, then there are other reasons MS gets targeted more frequently than other systems on personal computers.

    sorry, but you’re simply wrong.

    It’s not that hard to break into a linux server. Anonymous does it all the time. or hadn’t you noticed when they manage to take down people’s websites?

    it’s got nothing to do with how secure or not linux is vs windows. it has to do with who is targeting it and why.

    that said…

    The problem has NEVER been with server installs, it’s always been on personal computers, and the install base for MS is so much larger than anything else it’s not even funny.

    seriously, trying to pretend linux is simply more secure just because it’s Linux is pretty stupid.

  43. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    Wow.

    First, that JC is one positively charged seal.

    Second, I’m with Martin and Yazikus:

    I think “edify my confusion” should become a meme.

    I clicked on that phrase right away. That is just fucking classic, that is. There’s no doubt I’ll use it in the future.

  44. says

    re: the666.com

    If it has ‘666’ on it, I suggest opening on FreeBSD.

    * * *

    On another note, my thanks to all the folks who remembered that we shouldn’t conflate being an asshole with mental illness. No need for further stigmatization.

  45. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    @MrFancyPants:

    Because reading the original source material is just too hard.

    And because thunderf00t is such an acknowledged expert in parsing the language of social justice movements.

  46. malta says

    I can see why he needs someone to edify his confusion. Whenever I have questions about important philosophical questions, I always turn to UrbanDictionary. You will be shocked, shocked to learn that the UrbanDictionary definitions of Atheism Plus kinda suck. These are poll-based definitions, so could I put in a request for pharyngulation? Are there forms that I need to fill out in triplicate or anything? I’ll remember to staple the TPS cover.

  47. Ichthyic says

    JC is now appealing to thunderf00t to explain A+ to him…

    It’s like appealing to Hitler to explain Judaism.

  48. Ichthyic says

    You will be shocked, shocked to learn that the UrbanDictionary definitions of Atheism Plus kinda suck.

    I would call attention to who wrote that entry.

    you’ve seen him here before, and I smelled a rat then. says he’s changed his ways, but…

    seriously, look at who wrote that:

    Oolon_Colluphid

    isn’t oolon supposed to be a “reformed pitter”?

    yeah…

  49. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Oolon_Colluphid

    Another poster who was very concerned about our attitudes, and not those the ‘pitters.

  50. malta says

    isn’t oolon supposed to be a “reformed pitter”?

    Ah, thank you for the explanation. The connection to the pit explains all the votes.

  51. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    People change.

    Oolon was responsible for the original Blockbot, a tool that filters some of the worse bigots out of Twitter feeds.

  52. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    JC “I expect a response.”

    WTF? He got a response, a clear one at at that:

    KM “…I’m tired of futile public debate and I’ve got other things to do.”

    I don’t understand people with such a monumental ego that they cannot parse anything that doesn’t agree with their expectations.

  53. Anthony K says

    Oolon is probably one of the most active anti-pitters around. They hate him about as much as they hate anyone.

  54. Usernames! (ᵔᴥᵔ) says

    That’s because it’s because it’s the biggest target.
    — Big Boppa (#39)

    Negatory. Apache is—by far—more popular than IIS, yet has fewer vulnerabilities, because it is architected properly.

    ——

    My eyesight may not recover
    — aziraphale (#36)

    Oh dogs, yes.

    I dug into his code, just to see the belly of the beast. Most of his “graphics” are FLASH, FFS. I tried stripping away all the crap from that abortion of a site, just to see the pure content, and was unable to do it.

    I appears that this guy’s skills hail from 1997, and he has not advanced one bit since then.

  55. Lady Mondegreen (aka Stacy) says

    Icthyic, Nerd, malta–

    Uh, you folks are aware that oolon created the blockbot, and has been active in opposing pit harrassment, right?

    –And you further know that Oolon Collophid” was a character in both The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galary and Dr. Who, and therefore probably not all that uncommon an inspiration for ‘nyms, right?

    One more interesting fact: the “Oolon Colluphid” (note the capitalization) of UD also wrote an entry about what he calls “right-wing bimbos,” focusing on Fox News anchors and Sarah Palin. oolon is 1) a feminist, and 2) British, and thus highly unlikely to have written that particular piece.

    In conclusion, remember what Felix Ungar said about assumptions.

  56. robro says

    Demanding a reply to an email, and nothing but the email. Using a name that PZ would know to establish credibility. Poorly written content. Cheap shot website. Sounds suspiciously like phishing of some sort. The fall back is to assume a jerk, which is true in any case, who wants to expound about the evils of feminism but this person (or persons) may another motive.

  57. leni says

    Oolon is probably one of the most active anti-pitters around. They hate him about as much as they hate anyone.

    That was my impression as well.

    That does not look like the Oolon I’m familiar with.

  58. says

    You know what? Even I’m going to now question if it’s even the same Oolon. Even if Oolon had a more trolly/bigotted past, that Oolon on UD simply doesn’t read like the Oolon we know. I agree, despite my last post, that they may not be the same person.

    But also, if they are the same person, I stand by my post above about him. People can change, and they should be allowed to change.

    Oolon himself is the only one who can verify if that was him or not, so yeah… down with the assumptions…

  59. says

    On the website… I did tiny bit more digging… I don’t think that 666 project website is JC’s. If JC’s 666 project is a debate project, that website is not at all the homepage of a debate site, and it is not the website of an atheist and antitheist in any way, shape, or form.

    It’s possible that no one is assuming this and I’m just misreading some posts. If that’s the case, I apologize, but the point still stands…

  60. Anthony K says

    @natehevens,

    I don’t know if it’s the same oolon. (see Lady Mondegreen @77.) Oolon was originally concern troll who wanted to see ‘both sides’, here and at the pit, hence some people’s suspicions. He eventually quit the pit, and has been a thorn in their side ever since. I suspect part of the reason they hate him so (he claims to have been banned from there) is that he bucks the narrative that those of us who hate the pit are biased or are depending on second-hand reports, since he came, he saw, he was disgusted.

  61. says

    The last time the Urban Dictionary discussion came round, oolon (he who designed the Block Bot) claimed that the Oolon_Colluphid who wrote the Urban Dictionary entries was not him. It’s not the only time he’s had people impersonating him — if memory serves, there were also comments posted here at FTB on Greta’s blog purporting to be by him, that were not.

  62. llyris says

    @ 21 moggie

    Are you suggesting that toilet paper is more important than philosophy?

    The first night we had our baby home there was a wailing and gnashing of gums all night, and an evil black tar-like substance issued continuously from the other end like Satan’s toothpaste. We ran out of baby wipes. I can confirm that toilet paper is indeed more important than philosophy. So are face washers and hand towels. And buckets with lids.

  63. says

    Oolon Colluphid is a Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy reference, and ool0n (of block bot fame) is likely making the same reference as the other one. Popular among atheists because:

    http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Oolon_Colluphid

    Oolon Colluphid is the author of the “trilogy of philosophical blockbusters” entitled Where God Went Wrong, Some More of God’s Greatest Mistakes and Who is this God Person Anyway?. He later used the Babel Fish argument as a basis for a fourth book, titled Well, That About Wraps It Up For God.

  64. says

    isn’t oolon supposed to be a “reformed pitter”?

    Um, nope! I did have a period where I argued some of them were maybe not that bad, bit like how some of the GamerGators are “not that bad” or if you eat around the flecks of poo in your ice cream everything would be ok. WHY CAN’T WE ALL GET ALONG!!…. So not the best argument I’ve ever made, but far from being a pitter. I only ever posted on the pit to argue with them – wouldn’t recommend it unless you like being doxxed and threatened.

    So double nope and the urban dictionary entry is definitely not me, never added a definition. Only annoyed various block botted dictionary atheists into creating one for me .. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oolon Eventually feminists will change that to mean “awesome”, they’ll feel so silly then.

  65. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    Anthony 83:

    Oolon was originally concern troll who wanted to see ‘both sides’, here and at the pit, hence some people’s suspicions.

    That’s how I remember it too. I think that some people are extrapolating from that to an unfair conclusion about Oolon.

  66. Anthony K says

    @88,

    I think so, Fossilfishy. But I think that many people here might not know oolon’s trajectory, so they’re understandably operating from old knowledge.

    For my part, I like oolon, so I might have some bias. He’s passionate, and the pit has targeted him for his refusal to drink their koolaid.

  67. says

    Goodness.
    This guy sounds like a toddler who stomps his feet demanding an immediate answer no matter whether you are atm taking a shower, pooping or brushing your teeth. They have a need and they want it met NOW and whatever you do is way less important than what they want.
    Of course we usually teach toddlers that no, the earth doesn’t revolve around them and that they have to wait and that repeated demands will only make the other person annoyed.
    Somebody seems to have missed that lesson in preschool…

    +++
    Also, yes. Oolon really is somebody who has changed. I think he may be the only person who ever managed to get un-banned on Pharyngula…

  68. Ichthyic says

    ) claimed that the Oolon_Colluphid who wrote the Urban Dictionary entries was not him.

    I’ll take that as proof enough it wasn’t him.

  69. petrander says

    A clear case of “terrible sea lion”.

    “I have some rational and polite questions for you. ”
    “I really need to contact you about some rational and polite questions I have for you. ”
    “Please respond to my rational and polite questions. ”
    “You must really respond to my rational and polite questions. ”
    “Why are you not replying to my rational and polite questions? ”
    “Since you are ignoring my rational and polite questions, that proves to me that I am right. ”
    “You need to respond to my rational and polite questions nonetheless.”

    Fuck off already.

  70. reinderdijkhuis says

    @82 “Isn’t it obvious? You must be in charge, because you’re male.”
    Thinks A+ is all about Feminism, goes to a MAN to ask about it. I noticed that too.

    I also took a look at his timeline. It’s a Who-is-who of self-important douchebaggery. He retweets Harris, Boghossian, Milo Brickface…

  71. says

    Oolon used to be a pest around here, as he tried to see some good in the Slymepitters, and saw them as misguided rather than malicious. He eventually realised that there wasn’t any good to be found.

  72. azhael says

    @47
    Jesus fucking christ…seriously? He went to Phil Mason?
    And may i just say that if this guy is really a philosopher, being stuck on moral nihilism is beyond fucking pitiful….i managed to get out of that when i was 18 despite a crippling depression….what kind of fucking philosopher, with a daughter, can’t see past something like that?

  73. birgerjohansson says

    Xanthe, if one is into poisoning stuff, PCB is even better.

    “Toilet paper is a must for some philosophy.”
    As made evident by Ayn Rand. Sophistry as a philosophy for making excuses for the upper classes goes back to Socrates.

  74. thetalkingstove says

    “I’m asking for @thunderf00t ‘s support, @pzmyers is saying he’s not active in A+’s cause http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/01/19/i-get-email-from-entitled-jerks/ …, is that true? Hm.

    He could just go onto the A+ forum and see if PZ is involved on there, if he’s a moderator or if he’s started lots of discussions, for example. You know, investigate things using his big philosophical brain.

    But I’m sure Thunderfool will give him a fair, unbiased answer :-/

  75. grumpyoldfart says

    Carlie way back at #26
    Thanks for the explanation. I really had no idea what the guy was trying to say.
    Cheers.

  76. David Marjanović says

    What a deeply bizarre person. A whole new headspace!

    I Googled 666 project and clicked on one of the top links. It crashed my browser. Fortunately I was on a Linux box. I’d hate to think what might have happened if it were Windows with IE.

    I googled “666 project” with the quotation marks. I, too, got the666.com. Didn’t click on it, but the preview is… amusing:

    666 project 666
    http://www.the666.com/
    Department of Parapsychology and Occult Sciences of the 666 Project 666. ( Monday January 12, 2015 Stockholm, Sweden. -04:45 GMT Hours). (Click on this …
    666 project 666
    666 tells the world how God has asked him … who represents …

    666 the 666 project 666
    The 666 / Project 666 “, Dollar Account Number / Cuenta en …
    Full text – ENTER
    (Full Text- ENTER !) >>> As there is also the unexpected situation …

    131. Is already approaching …
    Is already approaching the biblically predicted and …
    Hillary R. Clinton
    666, The 666-marriage proposal to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Barack Obama
    Senator Barack Obama has won now in an incredible and mystic …

    Strangely, the Full text – ENTER parts only become visible in copypasta.

    Here is but one example of his style.

    So fucking what, let him edify me honestly or be a bigot. There is no middle ground when I’m honest. He failed.

    “Sorry, this page does not exist!” Looks like he’s capable of shame and has deleted this tweet. :-)

    It didn’t crash my browser. It merely made me wish it had.

    Thread won.

    His newest tweet on the matter:
    https://twitter.com/TheismAnti/status/557306676676947969

    That one is gone, too! But the account still exists. Latest on the matter, from 16 hours ago: If you follow me, please RT this. @pzmyers ignored me, I wish to know why.

  77. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Using an enemy’s ‘nym is entirely consistent with the ‘Pit’s MO.

  78. says

    It occurs to me that if JC needs atheism plus explained to him by a man and wants to avoid atheism+ forum cooties, he could always head over to Richard Carrier’s blog. Richard’s written several very long explanatory posts on the subject, and presumably Richard is someone he trusts enough to be working with him (assuming for the sake of argument that he was telling the truth about that). That he’s not done that suggests to me that it’s not his confusion that needs edification*.

    *”edify me honestly” [snorfle — that one sounds like a sexual euphemism]

  79. birgerjohansson says

    My name is B J and I am a philosopher. I believe that the cult of money is bad for you. Therfore you should give me your money to store it in my “evil-begone” vault until you need it.

  80. UnknownEric the Apostate says

    Rumtopf: “When will senpai notice me :c”

    I just laughed out loud and got a strange look from my coworkers.

  81. says

    I have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Neither does he. That means you’re both reading from the same page, so you have EVEN LESS excuse not to talk with him.

  82. says

    I was just talking to JC and the rude jerk completely ignored me! I keep repeating myself over and over, but he just doesn’t seem to understand or care about anything I have to say. We are supposed to be working on a TV show together! The fact that I’m sitting in a room talking to myself and only imagined the TV show 2 minutes ago is no excuse for this terrible treatment!

  83. says

    Also, shouldn’t JC at least answer for the actions of the Shady Pines Home Owners Association? I know literally nothing about them, so it’s time he stopped ignoring me and started talking!

  84. Amphiox says

    He claims to be a philosopher and he wants someone else to answer his questions?

    It’s the job of philosophers to answer their own questions!

  85. Janine the Jackbooted Emotion Queen says

    Even though I have my doubts that anyone here read my link at #29, it cannot be read now. JC, that fearless pursuer of the truth, deleted that tweet as well as many others and says he will not answer to that point again, because he was strawmanned.

  86. ricko says

    I tried this on my Mac, using the current OS…

    Big Boppa and Ichthyic, it works “fine”, and I have no doubt it would work equally fine on Windows and some form of Linux (as it works “fine” on my Mac.)

    But, I don’t think malware, etc. is a factor on Windows and not on Mac because that’s where everybody goes. If they did, we’d be seeing the malware on the Mac, and I haven’t found any.

  87. David Marjanović says

    deleted that tweet as well as many others and says he will not answer to that point again, because he was strawmanned.

    Clearly he’s practicing how to say the evil media misquoted me out of context for his political career! Just you wait.

  88. DLC says

    But does JC know important high school teachers ?
    Does JC want to be compensated with a camera body ?
    I’ve got a Leica around here somewhere. Possibly in the parts bin next to the apollo spacecraft bits.