I don’t even need to watch that before thinking it is awesome. In fact, I didn’t even need to read the title correctly. “Child celebrates opposing KC” has an equal ring of awesome to it.
But I did watch it, and it is all sorts of fooken awesome.
As a kid I had a couple of crushes on at least two of those ccokcs!
(Am I the only one that got it when Maureen Flannigan joined fingers?)
kmhughessays
Oh yeah! Awesome!
'Tis Himselfsays
Am I the only one that got it when Maureen Flannigan joined fingers?
Are you bragging or complaining?
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
Oh my, that was the funniest internet video with a political edge to it that I’ve seen since, “Prop 8, the Musical” – which, not so incidentally, is also a Funny or Die! production.
Also, how do I get a date with Allison Janney?
Why am I holding scissors?
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
Okay, I just decided I needed to look up “Prop 8, the Musical” again, since I hadn’t watched it like, literally, forever. But then when I was typing it into teh Google with auto suggest on, prop 8, the musical was the very first suggestion after typing in prop 8.
Not “prop 8 decision” or “…implications” or “…opinion” or “…full text.”
Prop 8 the musical. And I really can’t decide if that says something amazing or horrible about the US.
Probably, as with so many things, both.
gardengnomesays
Beautiful.
reciprokatesays
Don’t get me wrong, I love making fun of Kirk Cameron. But don’t you think the jokey-we-don’t-know-how-gay-sex-works thing is also detrimental to gays? They are simultaneously defending them and mocking them/representing them as unnatural.
andyosays
Are you bragging or complaining?
Hmm, you atheists and your dirty mind. I didn’t mean “it”, I meant it
But don’t you think the jokey-we-don’t-know-how-gay-sex-works thing is also detrimental to gays?
No. They weren’t mocking gay people, they were mocking KC and those of his ilk, who take pride in being as ignorant as possible when it comes to anything outside of special, god-sanctioned, procreative sex.
Also, reciprokate, the video had this member of the GLBT community laughing. Of course, your mileage may vary.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
I felt a little weird about the sex thing until someone said, “Why am I holding scissors?” Then I just busted up. It was soooooo clear to me at that point that they weren’t mocking queer sex but instead, as Caine said, mocking the deliberately ignorant.
But yes, there was an uncomfortable moment. I just needed to know for sure that the mocking was of a contemptible attitude and not of queer folk generally. For me, I got all the confirmation I needed.
lylelawsays
as a gay guy myself i’m kinda on the fence about some of the delivery here. mostly because of the vid’s focusing on the sexual aspect of the issue. LGBT people don’t just want to have consensual sex in peace (i would hope most thinking people would want that), we want to not have to worry that assholes like Cameron will kick us out of our jobs, or homes, etc while wearing beatific glassy-eyed smiles on their faces telling us that we ‘shouldn’t be rewarded or protected for being deviant, but we’re still loved and can be redeemed if we want to admit we can change.’
i mean, i get the joke, but feel that it misses the point of what LGBT rights is fighting for for the sake of a racey punchline.
Erissays
You mean sex doesn’t normally involve scissors? This could explain the looks of shock I have thus far received . . .
Browniansays
i mean, i get the joke, but feel that it misses the point of what LGBT rights is fighting for for the sake of a racey punchline.
I’m straight, but I kinda felt the same way.
On the other hand, I always had a soft spot for Keith Coogan. I know what it’s like to have a crush on Elisabeth Shue.
i mean, i get the joke, but feel that it misses the point of what LGBT rights is fighting for for the sake of a racey punchline.
The whole point of this one video was to deliver a punchline – right to KC’s ass. I get tired of people who think that every single commentary done on GLBT rights or feminism or anything else just has to contain every single aspect of the fight.
Sometimes, one aspect is fine. It’s okay to laugh every now and then too.
As a gay man, I think you should lighten up. Yes, this humorous video was focused on sex, so what? I don’t think we need to de-sexualize ourselves in order not to offend the homophobes. When you get down to it, gay sex is what the homophobes are really all freaked out by and what THEY are focused on. Yes the fight for LGBT equality is about allowing us to live our lives without being discriminated against. But sex is a big part of why we are being discriminated against. There’s nothing wrong with mocking the homophobes’ obsession with our sex lives.
danosays
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring. He has the right to say what he wants just as the CCOKC people have their right. I along with almost everyone I know am looking forward to his next film and will continue to recommend and pay to see it. I am also fine with people doing what they want in their own home and could really careless about the details. I have to say I AM NOT A CCOKC FAN (pun intended).
And we have the right to mock, denounce and deride KC, who is astonishingly stupid. Unless he’s spoonfed shit from the likes of Comfort, he stands around, mouth gaping and brain at an absolute standstill. I can see why you like him so much. Must feel like family to you, eh, Dano?
andyosays
the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
Oh, they inspire something all right.
He has the right to say what he wants just as the CCOKC people have their right.
So? Everybody knows this and agrees. Why even bring this up?
I along with almost everyone I know am looking forward to his next film and will continue to recommend and pay to see it.
the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
VAST majority? Sorry I know popularity doesn’t==art but…if he was actually popular he wouldn’t be making shitty direct to bargain bin propaganda films.
A. Rsays
FUUUUUUUUCK! Why must the trolls attack when the LOLstar is being refitted?
His entire career has taken less at the box office than Hunger Games took on its opening weekend
His movies are popular with a particular audience, but in terms of “star power” he’s lower on the list than Ron Jeremy, who at least was honestly masturbating in public.
A. Rsays
Ing: You can rent superweapons with eightracts? I’ve built two LOLstars. (kemist has the old one)
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
“the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.”
cite a source? Like one with actual data gathering/reporting involved?
You can rent superweapons with eightracts? I’ve built two LOLstars. (kemist has the old one)
The question is if you can rent one WITHOUT a bloody eightract!
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
the approriately named Eris:
You mean sex doesn’t normally involve scissors?
Brownian’s reply?
What’s ‘normally’?
Thread won – with yet more evidence why Brownian is an institution around here…
A. Rsays
Ing: I could give you the protype LOLstar. It only has LOLcat projection capabilities, but you could put some work into it and make it work quite well.
I’m sure I can make do by cutting corners on things like “crew quarters” and the like. I just need a cabin and guns attached to it. Shooty, blasty, boomy ones powered by murder thoughts.
Again, unfortunately not. A sterling example of a non-cognitive elite goddist. Resembles a parrot* in nature, repeats the same shit over and over.
*Not to insult parrots, mind.
A. Rsays
Ing: OK, take these then. You’ll need them to operate most of the main systems. You definitely won’t have much room for anything else but the weapons. I’m storing an entire invasion fleet of LOLdestroyers on-board the current LOLstar, along with several divisions of LOLtroopers, neither of which you will probably need.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
quoting Dano:
[numbering mine]
1. He has the right to say what he wants just as the CCOKC people have their right.
2. I am also fine with people doing what they want in their own home and could really careless about the details.
I wasn’t gonna, but now I can’t resist: WTF is it with people who think that saying either of the 2 above things make them sound somehow reasonable, centrist, or ethical.
Oh, me, I disapprove of cops running into people’s homes & drawing guns on folks based on what kinds of sex they may or may not be having. Yes indeedy.
Oh, and BTW? I am okay with the cops not arresting bloggers and/or shutting down web sites with which I disagree…always with the unspoken caveat that I don’t disagree **too much**. Because some things just have to be taken down (child porn, say) so I know I don’t have to say there are limits, which gets me off the hook of saying exactly what my limits *are*. So, of course, the fact that I think it’s at all a question that reasonable people might not agree with the freedom to write as one wishes on the internet – up to a point that I won’t specify – clearly makes me a GoodPerson(tm).
I mean FFS, how can either of the two statements do anything other than show that the writer considers the basics of the freedoms of speech, association, and privacy to be reasonable questions?
Dano, these statements make you look more of a jerk than your insistence without evidence that some “vast majority” considers KC’s movies 1/2 as inspiring as the Sunshine Band.
andyosays
Dano, these statements make you look more of a jerk
There’s no bigger asshole than the asshole that genuinely thinks he’s a nice guy.
Akira MacKenziesays
Pleasant??? PLEASANT??? According to his former “Growing Pains” co-stars, Cameron was an insufferable, pious, asshole after he found JEEZ-us.
…and speaking of insufferable assholes…
@ Dano
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
On the off chance that is anywhere close to be statistically true, it would prove my theory that the majority of human beings in general–and Americans in particular–are too fucking stupid to be trusted with self-governance.
You and all (yes, ALL) other Christian draggers-of-knuckle on this continent are the reason the rest of the civilized world points and laughs at the U.S..
He has the right to say what he wants…
First you torpedo my trust in Western democracy, now you’ve flushed the last lingering shreds of my support for freedom of speech and religion (Or, should I really call them the “freedom to lie and spread lies?”) right down the crapper. Wow! That’s two for two.
…just as the CCOKC people have their right.
Oh! How magnanimous of you! I suppose I should get down on my knees and kiss your feet for not killing us as your fricking holy book commands you to.
Is it just me, or don’t these right-wing fundy affirmations of freedom of speech ALWAYS sound phony?
I along with almost everyone I know am looking forward to his next film and will continue to recommend and pay to see it.
Right… The multiplexes are just PACKED with soft-brained Christards waiting to throw away good money see another Z-grade adaptation of the “Left Behind” novels.
I am also fine with people doing what they want in their own home and could really careless about the details.
Of course, heterosexuals can flaunt their sexuality in public as Tha’ Lawd intended, right?
I have to say I AM NOT A CCOKC FAN (pun intended).
No, you seem more like an ass-man to me.
(You morons really do walk into these things, don’t you?)
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Dano, simple question. Do you think that I am an abomination?
I didn’t actually watch any of those sitcoms. I’m starting to suspect I wasn’t actually alive in the 80s… Apparently, I’m actually a replicant, and these are implanted memories, and whoever put ’em together wasn’t here in the 80s either.
Anyway, seriously, it’s also actually pretty awesome to see a buncha former child stars who look so happy, well-adjusted, together, so on. Y’know, what with the standard media cliché being: famous at ten, dead from overdose at 25*.
Seriously, I think I even want to see more from these people. They’re cool. Hollywood, take note.
(/*Speaking of: it’s probably already been mooted, but could this be our explanation for Cameron? Jesus is his post-TV-fame self-destructive habit? If so, it’s really a pity the Betty Ford doesn’t treat that.)
Ariaflame, BSc, BF, PhDsays
@andyo I also laughed at the fingers / clap bit.
Would you like to swing on a star…
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
AJ Milne, do not feel too bad about that. For me, paying attention to child stars ended with Melissa Gilbert and Melissa Sue Anderson and that was shortly after the Ingalls moved to Minnesota. (Not sure and do not care what season that was.) I watched none of those shows but I do appreciate what those former child stars are doing.
bluentxsays
Always late to the party but…
On the Funny or Die site:
Susan Olsen:
Why wasn’t I called for this??? Come on, 70’s kid actors hate Kirk just as much!”
andyosays
Ariaflame,
Would you like to swing on a star…
Actually, I wouldn’t know that. This is what I saw at the time. I couldn’t make out the lyrics then, but just hearing the song I remember the tune clearly.
Moggiesays
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
“the vast majority” = “most people at my church”
mirrorsays
Never heard of the guy, so I looked him up in Wikipedia. Looks like he was a big child star between 1985-1992. I wasn’t watching mainstream TV much then…
Then he hooked up with his new-found evangelical brethren to lend a little Hollywood sheen to their crap productions, and he’s been mostly doing that ever since until the surprise success of the movie Fireproof, whatever that is.
So, he went from teen atheist to creationist homophobe hack and he’s got a couple of minutes back in the light which he is taking advantage of to spread ignorance and hate.
Porco Diosays
What are the odds that Kirk had a homoerotic experience as a kid (who didn’t?) and probably liked it.
Because he cannot reconcile his reality with the warped teaching of the church he hates on fags instead of losing his religion.
Do you know what is typically meant by “I don’t care what gay people do in their homes?” It will explain why people are so angry at you.
That sentence there doesn’t mean that you’re accepting of gay rights. It doesn’t mean you think that gays have the same rights as everyone else. It is almost usually followed by “but don’t throw it in my face.”
That sentence is mean, it’s dehumanizing. It’s telling gay people that they can’t share stories about their relationships. They can’t say “my husband” or “my wife” without someone reacting with shock and horror. It’s telling gay people that they need to stay silent about who they love.
In a world where heterosexual people are free to describe who they’re married to – a picture of their families, bringing their spouse to office parties, even saying “my wife wants me to pick up milk” – to deny that to homosexual families is just plain mean.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
massive comprehension fail…
No, massive communication and cogency fail on your part. If everybody complains, maybe its you. And everybody is complaining except you…
A. Rsays
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Cameron likes to brag that he was an atheist but actually his mom is very religious and actually wrote a book bragging that her Christian child raising techniques saved her kids from the world of drugs and soft core porno. (Kirk’s sister was also in a lesser-known cheesy sitcom. I forget which one. She hasn’t done any porno that I’ve heard.)
The one thing that is clear about little Kirk is that being a highly paid teen sex symbol turned him into a slut, a drinker, a brat, and an unsafe driver. Then he crashed his car up and almost died. I think the car was actually a Porsche. Kirk asked God for a sign and felt all warm and fuzzy. Apparently he never looked back.
Stories like this are depressingly common in the world of hard-core religious fanatics. I think it says more about how the brain can go wrong than anything else.
Rev. BigDumbChimpsays
the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
First, citation please.
The vast majority of what group? All people?
Or just the people who see them?
And I wonder what group the vast majority of people who see those movies belong to?
And you wonder why they think the movies are inspiring?
Hilarious, especially the slogan at the end! I’d love to show my support by wearing one of those t-shirts, although I have a feeling nobody I know would have the slightest idea who Kirk Cameron is.
danosays
Akira, no need to kiss my feet. Knowing you are understanding of the need for a higher power is enough. I am guessing your higher power is quite different though.
Janine, No obomination at all. I in fact do not hate anyone regardless of their beliefs, gender or sexual preference. I do hope that in the future everyone will find something or someone to guide them in living their life the best way they can.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Janine, No obomination at all. I in fact do not hate anyone regardless of their beliefs, gender or sexual preference. I do hope that in the future everyone will find something or someone to guide them in living their life the best way they can.
An other simple question. Why do you find inspirational a man who trumpets a view of life that would condemn me?
I do hope that in the future everyone will find something or someone to guide them in living their life the best way they can.
You need a new guide. You are one offensive fuckwitted idjit. Try it without imaginary deities and mythical/fictional holy books. The results might surprise you.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
But will it get to the bottom of Teh Gay Seks With Brownian?
Jerrysays
Oh my, I laughed so hard at the video that it brought tears to my eyes. Cameron deserves the mockery, as much as he can get. I have never understood why anyone would think that an endorsement by an actor means anything more than the words. Actors are paid to be good at memorizing lines and repeating them. What remotely qualifies an actor’s point of view above any other random human being, aside from the ability to _sound_ more convincing? Stupidity repeated in an apparently heartfelt manner is no less stupid. The reverse, unfortunately, is not accepted by most people. The most factual and logical argument convinces no one if the presentation stinks. (That’s why most scientists practice our scientific talks.)
dano,
Maybe you need another translation, though Katherine Lorraine probably said it better. Homosexuals don’t merely want the “freedom” to be “allowed” to do whatever they want in the privacy (closets?) of their own homes. They want the exact same freedom as you and I have, everywhere. No one has denied my right to take care of my wife when she’s sick or take time off to bring my son to the doctor, but I have friends who can’t do it. One is scared to even mention a long term relationship for fear of being fired by a bigoted “family values” boss. In fact, all of our rights are supposed to be guaranteed in the Constitution or by federal and state law, but common usage renders that meaningless when people can be fired and discriminated against simply for being themselves. They don’t want “special rights”, they want the same rights.
Your inspiring Kirk Cameron isn’t called a bigot because he’s an actor (lousy actor vs. inspiring is completely irrelevant). He’s mocked because he espouses a point of view akin to apartheid, just based on something other than skin color but equally superficial as far as human rights go. People who wants to suppress the rights of other humans as compared to themselves are simply wrong.
For example, marriage equality laws are slowly spreading, but the bigotry and fear are spreading too, thanks mainly to big tax-free money and labor from the LDS, Mormons, Catholics, and Baptists. I asked my wife if she thought that our gay friends “threatened” our marriage like it says in the Gay-Menace “preserve traditional marriage” commercials. She laughed and called the writers of the commercials dangerous idiots. If you’re not already prone to thinking of gay people as “other”, then all of the arguments against gay marriage are exposed as obvious fear-based fact-free propaganda. Cameron’s arguments sound equally hollow, not inspiring, and he comes across like a bigot (a younger version of Archie Bunker, to me, but not remotely funny).
ledasmomsays
“the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring”
Possibly a half-vast majority.
Rey Foxsays
I do hope that in the future everyone will find something or someone to guide them in living their life the best way they can.
Or that we can all grow up and be adults instead, making our own way through life, taking “guidance” in bits and pieces from relationships with those around us and various other sources.
Browniansays
But will it get to the bottom of Teh Gay Seks With Brownian?
That’s a mystery that cannot be solved with only one dimension. You need to consider higher-dimensional sexuality such as North-South, East-West, and those curly little dimensions the string theorists are always notching their bedposts over. (I’ve provisionally named a few of them: spoon, cuddle, and fingerhook. Altogether, these make up Kinsey-Yau space. It’s all very complicated, which is the most erotic kind of complicated.)
KillJoysays
This video made me smile.
I, in fact, shared it will all my friends.
Hopefully it will make them smile as well.
Also, as a godless, society destroying sodomite I got the joke. I was completely unoffended by the sex jokes and sex centric tone of the video. I was more offended by them calling NPH and asshole. That stung! Poor Neil. D:
As a side note KC is a shitty actor. And it’s partially due to his religious view. Acting is a “DARK ART”. You have to get inside the head of the person you’re playing. Cameron flatly refuses to do that for anyone who may disagree with him. This limits both roles available and effectively means that he is not practicing acting anymore. He is done…he cannot improve because he’s stuck on the same slope over and over again.
IslandBrewersays
I was a little confused about all the gay sex talk until it struck me: they were being as offensive as possible to homophobes. Homophobes are so unanimously and simultaneously obsessed with and horrified by teh gay seks that the actors needed to give them what they want, so to speak.
Ewan Rsays
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
Selection bias at work there methinks – there can’t be a very large number of people who’ve made it through more than a few minutes of any movie Kirk has been in, therefore the list of people who can say they are inspired by his movies can only really include the near terminally brain dead.
Are you perhaps confusing Camerons? I hear James is held in slightly higher esteem.
Also fuck you.
Browniansays
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
Actually, the vast majority of people find me inspiring, dano, and think Kirk Cameron is a washed-up sack of douche.
I’ll disclose my source data when you do.
Also, fuck you.
Browniansays
Thanks for the inspiration, Ewan R: I think I’ve found myself a sig.
cicely. Just cicely.says
I am a straight woman, and I like CCOKC. Hmmm…that just doesn’t seem to have the same impact as the declarations of some of the other CCOKC-lovers around here….
And, dano (if you’re still hanging around):
the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring
I agree…just not to what you think they are inspiring. Derision, boredom, nausea; there are many options. For instance, I find that KC in the movies inspires in me a deep sense of apathy.
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Anyway, seriously, it’s also actually pretty awesome to see a buncha former child stars who look so happy, well-adjusted, together, so on.
Agreed. It’s usually only the ones who do a spectacular crash-and-burn that make the news. “If it bleeds….”
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danosays
Cicely, I am still here just not as much as I would like to be due to other obligations….I have a lot to pray for each time I read everyone’s responses.
Seriously that is the most perverse thing about Xianity, turning forgiveness and compassion into a social axe to embed in the head of the unworthy heathens.
If Tolkien was right and the purpose of evil is to pervert that which is good into twisted parodies of itself than Xianity cannot deny this charge.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
…I have a lot to pray for each time I read everyone’s responses.
No wonder you cannot understand what anyone is telling you.
Quit wasting your time here and stay within a locked featureless room. This will keep you away from a world that makes you compulsively pray.
Or at least unplug your computer.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
….I have a lot to pray for each time I read everyone’s responses.
So you engage in masturbation. Some Xian you are to admit that in public.
I’m fine with religion and people’s religious beliefs INSIDE THEIR OWN HOMES, DANO!
Pray for us all you want but it is offensive and rude to tell us.
Josh, OSG, Abortia N'ondemandesays
Dano (and assorted queers and allies; please note how it’s done and please join me in asserting more agency and less asking for stuff):
That you’re “Ok with” what people do in their private lives is irrelevant. Your permission, comfort, attitudes about, approval of, or loathing for what anyone does is orthogonal to reality. I realize you and lots of bigots find this shocking, but you don’t actually have the ability to benevolently grant us your forbearance or circumscribe our existence. It matters not one whit whether you’re “OK with” anything—no one gives a shit.
We exist and we will have full legal equality regardless of what you think. Notice how I’m not echoing what some others have said here; I’m not saying “we want the right to.” Because I’m not asking your permission legally, ethically, or existentially. We don’t need it.
We are taking our rights this very moment, rights that are inalienable and ours merely by virtue of being human beings. Neither you nor your church nor any government has a legitimate right to arrogate to yourselves the dispensation or withholding of these rights.
And we’re winning which is what scares you so much. You know you’re on the dying end of a rapidly closing chapter of shameful bigotry. Your views are no longer automatically applauded; they’re often mocked right to your face. Get used to a whole lot more of that. It isn’t going to stop. You’re not the top of the cultural privilege heap anymore. Deal with it.
Or don’t. But you better get the fuck up out of my face with your bullshit because I won’t put up with it and neither will the queers around here. Keep fucking with us and we’ll be ALL UP IN YOUR SHIT. Trust me.
That’s not love. It’s fear. Foaming at the mouth fear, fueling hatred of the known, falling face first in the dirt to worship ignorance.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Can I be a Love Vigilante?
Louissays
I have been told that my love is an offensive weapon…
…but it was by a very harsh Judge. Damn you restraining order!!!
Louis
P.S. I love CCOKC. Big fan. I have one at home in fact, constantly playing with it I am. My wife loves a bit of CCOKC. Total CCOKCaholic, can’t get enough of the stuff. CCOKC in the morning, CCOKC in the evening CCOKC, in the summer time. In fact, there’s a song about that, what was it now, oh yes, “CCOKC in the morning, CCOKC in the evening CCOKC in the summer time.”. (Apologies to Pete and Dud).
P.P.S. Hurrah for homophones!
P.P.P.S. And most importantly Hurrah for homosexuals. Stick up for homosexuals, they stick it up for you.*
* Even the lesbians with their strap ons and fingers and and and and and and…
…I’m off for a cold shower.
Louissays
Janine,
Can I be a Love Vigilante?
Lurve Vigilante, surely.
{Blaxplotation movie music plays}
Awwwwww yeah.
Louis
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Tongues. Do not forget the tongues.
Moggiesays
Standing ovation for Josh.
Louissays
I FORGET TEH TUNGZ!
I has a sad.
Cumulonimbus is one of my most favouritest things.
Oh, yeah
I’m just a love machine
And I won’t work for nobody but you
(Yeah baby)
I’m just a love machine
A hugging kissing fiend
I think it’s high time you knew
Whenever I think of you
My mind blows a fuse
(Baby)
When I look in your eyes
My meter starts to rise
And I become confused
My motor cranked electric goes
When I’m sitting next to you
Electricity starts to flow
And my indicator starts to glow
La, la la la la, la la la la, la la
La la la la la, la la la, la la la
I’m gentle as a lamb
I’m not that hard to program
There’s no way that you can lose
Chassis fits like a glove
I’ve got a button for love
That you’ve got to use
(Push it, push it baby)
If you look into my power
I am sure you can find out how
To turn me on just set my dial
And let me love you for a little while, ooh
(I, I)
I’m just a love machine
And I won’t work for nobody but you
(Oh, yeah)
I’m just a love machine (Yeah baby)
A hugging kissing fiend
La, la la la la, la la la la, la la
La la la la la, la la la, la la la
Push it push it baby, yeah, ah, ah
KillJoysays
Janine,
Oh I know they were being silly. So was I. XD
I love NPH, so I had to say something.
KJ
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Sorry, KillJoy.
I should have known better.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
{Blaxplotation movie music plays}
Ahem! That was a New Order reference!
KillJoysays
Josh @ 104
Well said.
I would comment further, but well, you expressed it so much better than I would have.
Josh,
Thank you for the correction (and bravo, well said).
dano,
What about my comment required prayer? What part of my pointing out reality caused you to request aid from an almighty being, that you could not have done for yourself by, say, asking me questions? Do you think I need smiting or some such divine retribution? Have I committed a church-thought-crime? Or are you seeking guidance for being out of touch with so many other human beings’ view of the world? I, and I’m guessing many other people here, would be glad to keep pointing out how your “teh gheys should stay in the closet” rhetoric is actively harmful to other people.
If you are confused about Josh’s comment, realize that being on the receiving end of hatred makes one justifiably upset. Even your patented style of hatred fear and loathing with prayer. Hint: If you’re condemning people for existing and you are asking their creator to change them from how they were allegedly created due to your own discomfort, then it’s your problem you need to change, not them. Your prayer is not about love, it’s fear. Don’t pray for us, pray for yourself.
Or are you seeking guidance for being out of touch with so many other human beings’ view of the world?
This ^ has a great deal to do with it. The human beings are taking over and those who prefer a primitive brain and primitive ways are becoming irrelevant. They can either upgrade and join humanity or get the fuck off the island.
KillJoysays
Caine,
Dr. Horrible is one of the few things I own on DVD.
I, quite literally, squealed with delight the first time I was exposed to it.
I, quite literally, squealed with delight the first time I was exposed to it.
That’s because it’s concentrated Super-Joy™ and has magickal powers. Oh my yes.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Yeah, I have to admit, NPH looks adorable in those goggles.
Moggiesays
I dunno. Anything with NPH, Nathan Fillion and Felicia Day has almost lethal levels of awesome. It should be kept away from children and anyone with a heart condition.
KillJoysays
Moggie,
Exactly!
Im not really a ‘squeal with delight’ kind of guy.
The most common adjectives used to describe me are stoic, cold, and frightening. Its completely out of character for me.
But Dr. Horrible was so completely awesome it broke through that shell and made me squeal.
I’m an oldster and these folks are all complete strangers to me. I like it though. It makes me think of a tribal culture. Kirk Cameron has pissed off his own tribe.
That says something — Kirk ought to take notice of that. He wont. Unfortunately.
Jerrysays
I have a question that I hope others can answer. When I see the ad for “Maryland Marriage Alliance” on Pharyngula, I click on it, just to make those inbred cretins pay Google and FTB a few cents for bothering me. I don’t actually sign up for anything on their website, because (a) they’re loathsome, and (b) I once received all sorts of vile hatred and grift from a homophobe’s newsletter in Loudon VA. It turns out that “survey” I answered was counted as signing up for his newsletter and misrepresented as a petition _agreeing_ with its hatred. (Not going to mention its’ name lest it appear, comment, and vanish in a blast of sewer gas.) Should I sign up for the MMA to make them waste more of their astroturf money on sending me crap to recycle, or be concerned that they will sell my name to NOM, Opus Dei, KKK and other like-minded idjits?
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Jerry, if you are using Firefox, you can install Adblocker and not have to see that shit at all. I do not see any ads doing this.
Jerry, I wouldn’t sign up. Like the “survey” which shall not be named, these dishonest assclowns will use your name to shore up their numbers.
cicely. Just cicely.says
♫Don’t pray for me, Argentina….♫
– *applause* for Josh.
–
Browniansays
Anything with NPH, Nathan Fillion and Felicia Day has almost lethal levels of awesome.
[Brownian doesn’t mention that Nathan Fillion drinks at the same pub as Brownian when NF visits his hometown. He just thinks it.]
Moggiesays
Nathan Fillion and Brownian?
*explodes*
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Moggie, do not start with the slash fiction of Nathan Fillion having gay seks with Brownian.
Unless you use the line. And you know what line I am talking about.
*raspberry*
Browniansays
Get out of my head! Get out of my head!
Janine: History’s Greatest Monstersays
Who are you talking to, Brownian?
Jerrysays
Great. Oh great. Just when I thought there was a chance for the resident homophobes to start thinking of teh ghey menace as actual human beans, now all that’s going through their heads are scenes of Brownian and Fillion having sex. Repeatedly. Over and over. ‘Cause thanks to Scientific American everyone now knows that most homophobes are really closet cases. Gay sex scenes going through their heads. Over and over. (Just waiting for the news reports of a slew of fatal brain aneurysms in megachurches and GOP caucuses.) Hey, I wonder if this is a good tactic to win elections and improve the gene line at the same time?
Browniansays
Who are you talking to, Brownian?
I, uh, I thought Moggie had read something I only thought I’d thought, but I guess I, uh…I’m going to lie down for a bit.
[Eyes thread suspiciously, checks Netflix to see if it has Gaslight.]
Dano:
“I along with almost everyone I know am looking forward to his next film and will continue to recommend and pay to see it.”
So does this mean that when “Kirk Cameron’s 50 Fist Weekend”* comes out he will actually recommend and pay to see it?
Oh, and thanks for your approval of what I do in private. Now I can suck as much cock as I want without worrying about what Dano thinks.
*Based on the title of a real gay porn video.
Given all the sexy brains ’round here and the never-ending Orgy of Intelligence™, we’re all in our bunks. Alla time.
Ray, rude-ass yankeesays
dano@80, I do not need a guide, master or keeper. I want to make the decisions of how to live my life all by myself.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@84, I thought only women were allowed in the line?
Brownian@95, actually I do find you inspiring.I stretch to be as clever and interesting and don’t usually make it half way. By the way, what do you do with all those internets and threads you’ve won?
dano@98, I think, next time you feel the urge to comment, you should pray until it goes away. Then pray for a few more hours, just in case. I would appreciate it.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@109 Never!!!
Moggie@110,
Standing ovation for Josh.
Me Too!
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@132, I used to use adblock at sciblogs but (correct me if I’m wrong) I don’t think FtB gets paid unless we see the ads? I thought it was something good to allow all ads here. Aside from the “donate” button it’s my little way of contributing (besides, the Snorg t-shirt ad is cool).
Weed Monkeysays
Ray, rude-ass yankee
I used to use adblock at sciblogs but (correct me if I’m wrong) I don’t think FtB gets paid unless we see the ads?
To counter that I’m allowing AdBlock+ to show ads that their filters consider non-intrusive. Static images, preferably text-only… oh why am I trying to explain, here’s a link.
So far I haven’t noticed a single ad at FtB. Which kind of tells something about the advertisers.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@84, I thought only women were allowed in the line?
Where on earth did you get that idea?
FossilFishysays
Josh at #104. Shit, that made me choke up a little and I might just have done a fist pump whist exclaiming “Fuck YES!” Might have that is, no pictures and it never happened…..
Brownian at #135. Why the hell do I always find out these interesting things about the places I *used* to live? I worked within a block and a half of that pub for over a decade. Shit. At this rate the next time I move the new tenants of my former home will discover the Higgs boson hiding in the hall cupboard.
Ray, rude-ass yankeesays
Weed Monkey@147,
Thanks for the link, I didn’t remember seeing that new feature, but I still try to support this site as best I can because of the interesting blogs/bloggers and commenters I find here, and if that means looking at some ads, I’m OK with that.
Caine, Cruel Monster@148,
I remember some discussion of the origin of the ghey secks thing, that a troll thought a female commenter was male and told her to have ghey secks with Brownian, so by that definition only women could do it. I guess by your reaction, I’m wrong? Where do I take a number? :P
Ray, rude-ass yankeesays
Wow, I’ve ranged kind of far afield. So, on topic, the people in the video are awesome! I laughed through the whole thing. Great work.
Jerry thanks for signing up. I always appreciate when someone admits they’re wrong and makes switch to the other side. May I suggest http://www.christianlifeandliberty.net for some more great reading about life, passion and love? I know when a blogger posts a story that has the words say marriage in it the web host puts in the closest ad such as http://www.mnformarriage.com or http://www.christians.com. I still get a laugh every time I see a Christian ad on here just as you would laugh I am sure on the flip side. Feel free to check out the above sites and learn more about living life to its fullest extent without sin and persecution as you will be living the high life. No not Miller Time just the good life. I am trying to learn from your site and I have even stoped ending my posts with Cheers! (Christian code for God Bless). I have sympathy for everyone here, not for being gay, but for not being able to truly understand your place on this earth and the lessons that can be learned by following in the foot steps of the one that died for all of our sins.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
for some more great reading about life, passion and love?
Lies and bullshit by professional liars and bullshitters Dano. Until they can show their imaginary deity actually exists, and that the babble isn’t a book of mythology fiction, that is all Xian writing is. And you have shown nothing.
I am trying to learn from your site
The first thing you need to learn is the concept of evidence. It isn’t testimony like Xians give. It is hard and physical like on a CSI show. And your deity and holy book come up empty under those conditions.
the foot steps of the one that died for all of our sins.
This is nonsense as Yahweh never exist, jebus as son of Yahweh didn’t exist, so it it utterly and totally a presupposition argument. Which means it is false, as you presume the conclusion in the axioms, instead of presuming the opposite. Bad philosophy is when you try to define your answer.
Cassandra Caligaria (Cipher), OMsays
Jerry thanks for signing up. I always appreciate when someone admits they’re wrong and makes switch to the other side.
Wow. You really need to learn to read more carefully.
for some more great reading about life, passion and love?
*snort* You mean reading about rape, murder, genocide, torture, slavery and witless cruelty for cruelty’s sake. The bible is the manual for how to be an amoral monster. Why yes, all that shit is upheld in the NT by Jesus, too. If you don’t know that, you need to stop believing the shit that is being shoveled into your head.
Now, that amoral, evil, psycho god of yours is a cheater, too. Fucker cheats like there’s no tomorrow. All through the bible, it’s busy “hardening peoples hearts”, multiple times, even, so that rather than acting like they normally would, they are manipulated into behaving in a manner which El Shaddai seems to feel justifies wholesale slaughter.
Now, according to 1 Peter:
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
the saved and the damned are predestined. There’s no way around that whatsoever. That’s your bible, Cupcake. By the way, that’s not the only time predestination is mentioned in the NT.
As that’s the case, stop your moronic witnessing, head for your closet and shove your head back up your ass so you can have a chat with God the monster and leave us be. You’re boring us to death here, Cupcake.
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.
ROTFLMAO
there are 7billion people in the world, most of whom haven’t even heard of Kirk. But nevermind that; it’s not even true for the US. Though I’m sure it’s true for dano’s bible-study group.
I agree…just not to what you think they are inspiring. Derision, boredom, nausea; there are many options. For instance, I find that KC in the movies inspires in me a deep sense of apathy.
well, I’m glad they inspired the slacktivist to make fun of them; both his book and movie “reviews” of Left Behind are fucking hilarious :-p
Jerry thanks for signing up. I always appreciate when someone admits they’re wrong and makes switch to the other side.
oh dano, please learn to read before trying to engage on the internet.
more great reading about life, passion and love?
this may come as a shock to you, but people don’t need christianity to enjoy any of those things; in fact, it tends to severely interfere with them.
but for not being able to truly understand your place on this earth
i understand my “place on this earth” just fine; that’s what GPS was invented for
Owlmirrorsays
Feel free to check out the above sites and learn more about living life to its fullest extent without sin
If you can find the time in your busy schedule of not actually reading what people write, maybe you can explain exactly what “sin” is? Give the most thorough definition that you can.
kemist, Dark Lord of the Sithsays
I have sympathy for everyone here, not for being gay, but for not being able to truly understand your place on this earth and the lessons that can be learned by following in the foot steps of the one that died for all of our sins.
And for gays this “place” involves negating who they are, for women it means being smiley second-class citizens whose most important role is that of a walking incubator.
And you wonder why some of us don’t “understand”.
Fuck you and all your twisted “love”.
I know my “place” on earth. It’s the only one that can ever make me happy because I made it.
michaelpowerssays
I showed this to a gay friend, with a bit of apprehension. He couldn’t quit laughing. I asked, “You didn’t find any of it offensive?”
He said, “Aw hell, if you can’t laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?”
My respect for him went up a notch.
I especially liked the Neil Patrick Harris bit. He’s probably still catching flak for Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle.
This was funny. All the other ‘phobes out there should get the same treatment.
Thank you PZ. After all of the shit I’ve been reading on FB about KC, it’s nice to see this.
Hee. That was fabulous.
Who would doubt ccokc?
Glen Davidson
I don’t even need to watch that before thinking it is awesome. In fact, I didn’t even need to read the title correctly. “Child celebrates opposing KC” has an equal ring of awesome to it.
But I did watch it, and it is all sorts of fooken awesome.
Nice!
Excellent.
I must admit…I love CCOKC!
That was forty-seven shades of awesome!
KC’s latest antics are kind of ironic considering he could have passed for Ray Comfort’s catamite in his infamous banana video.
Love that CCOKC!
As a kid I had a couple of crushes on at least two of those ccokcs!
(Am I the only one that got it when Maureen Flannigan joined fingers?)
Oh yeah! Awesome!
Are you bragging or complaining?
Oh my, that was the funniest internet video with a political edge to it that I’ve seen since, “Prop 8, the Musical” – which, not so incidentally, is also a Funny or Die! production.
Also, how do I get a date with Allison Janney?
Why am I holding scissors?
Okay, I just decided I needed to look up “Prop 8, the Musical” again, since I hadn’t watched it like, But then when I was typing it into teh Google with auto suggest on, prop 8, the musical was the very first suggestion after typing in prop 8.
Not “prop 8 decision” or “…implications” or “…opinion” or “…full text.”
Prop 8 the musical. And I really can’t decide if that says something amazing or horrible about the US.
Probably, as with so many things, both.
Beautiful.
Don’t get me wrong, I love making fun of Kirk Cameron. But don’t you think the jokey-we-don’t-know-how-gay-sex-works thing is also detrimental to gays? They are simultaneously defending them and mocking them/representing them as unnatural.
Hmm, you atheists and your dirty mind. I didn’t mean “it”, I meant it
reciprokate:
No. They weren’t mocking gay people, they were mocking KC and those of his ilk, who take pride in being as ignorant as possible when it comes to anything outside of special, god-sanctioned, procreative sex.
Also, reciprokate, the video had this member of the GLBT community laughing. Of course, your mileage may vary.
I felt a little weird about the sex thing until someone said, “Why am I holding scissors?” Then I just busted up. It was soooooo clear to me at that point that they weren’t mocking queer sex but instead, as Caine said, mocking the deliberately ignorant.
But yes, there was an uncomfortable moment. I just needed to know for sure that the mocking was of a contemptible attitude and not of queer folk generally. For me, I got all the confirmation I needed.
as a gay guy myself i’m kinda on the fence about some of the delivery here. mostly because of the vid’s focusing on the sexual aspect of the issue. LGBT people don’t just want to have consensual sex in peace (i would hope most thinking people would want that), we want to not have to worry that assholes like Cameron will kick us out of our jobs, or homes, etc while wearing beatific glassy-eyed smiles on their faces telling us that we ‘shouldn’t be rewarded or protected for being deviant, but we’re still loved and can be redeemed if we want to admit we can change.’
i mean, i get the joke, but feel that it misses the point of what LGBT rights is fighting for for the sake of a racey punchline.
You mean sex doesn’t normally involve scissors? This could explain the looks of shock I have thus far received . . .
I’m straight, but I kinda felt the same way.
On the other hand, I always had a soft spot for Keith Coogan. I know what it’s like to have a crush on Elisabeth Shue.
What’s ‘normally’?
lylelaw:
The whole point of this one video was to deliver a punchline – right to KC’s ass. I get tired of people who think that every single commentary done on GLBT rights or feminism or anything else just has to contain every single aspect of the fight.
Sometimes, one aspect is fine. It’s okay to laugh every now and then too.
I’m with CCOKC
This straight man loves CCOKC
Lyelaw,
As a gay man, I think you should lighten up. Yes, this humorous video was focused on sex, so what? I don’t think we need to de-sexualize ourselves in order not to offend the homophobes. When you get down to it, gay sex is what the homophobes are really all freaked out by and what THEY are focused on. Yes the fight for LGBT equality is about allowing us to live our lives without being discriminated against. But sex is a big part of why we are being discriminated against. There’s nothing wrong with mocking the homophobes’ obsession with our sex lives.
I have to say that I along with the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring. He has the right to say what he wants just as the CCOKC people have their right. I along with almost everyone I know am looking forward to his next film and will continue to recommend and pay to see it. I am also fine with people doing what they want in their own home and could really careless about the details. I have to say I AM NOT A CCOKC FAN (pun intended).
That was hilarious. Thanks for the post PZ—nice to some other celebrities (or former celebrities anyway) speaking out against KC.
dano: But KC does. He also cares about what they do outside of their homes, like working, and having families.
dano:
And we have the right to mock, denounce and deride KC, who is astonishingly stupid. Unless he’s spoonfed shit from the likes of Comfort, he stands around, mouth gaping and brain at an absolute standstill. I can see why you like him so much. Must feel like family to you, eh, Dano?
Oh, they inspire something all right.
So? Everybody knows this and agrees. Why even bring this up?
You must be a delightful bunch of people.
Please, do.
Clever!
—
(If this is a Poe, fuck you as well.)
VAST majority? Sorry I know popularity doesn’t==art but…if he was actually popular he wouldn’t be making shitty direct to bargain bin propaganda films.
FUUUUUUUUCK! Why must the trolls attack when the LOLstar is being refitted?
@A.R.
Well I’d gas up the rental but it has an eightract that is broken so it’s left on, with the volume nub missing, and stuck on one song.
andyo:
Unfortunately not.
I predict xe’s not gonna last long. Smells like innocent prey who just stumbled into the dragon’s den.
oh, is xe not a new one? My bad.
dano
“Vast majority”???????
http://www.the-numbers.com/people/06037.php
His entire career has taken less at the box office than Hunger Games took on its opening weekend
His movies are popular with a particular audience, but in terms of “star power” he’s lower on the list than Ron Jeremy, who at least was honestly masturbating in public.
Ing: You can rent superweapons with eightracts? I’ve built two LOLstars. (kemist has the old one)
“the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring.”
cite a source? Like one with actual data gathering/reporting involved?
dano:
Do you support the rights of gay people to marry? Otherwise, you’re being fine with privacy doesn’t mean shit.
Also, what was the point of your post? This?
Did you really just post to demonstrate your love of movies with bad writing, bad dialog, bad acting, and bad treacle plots with no redeeming value?
The question is if you can rent one WITHOUT a bloody eightract!
Brownian’s reply?
Thread won – with yet more evidence why Brownian is an institution around here…
Ing: I could give you the protype LOLstar. It only has LOLcat projection capabilities, but you could put some work into it and make it work quite well.
@A.R.
I’m sure I can make do by cutting corners on things like “crew quarters” and the like. I just need a cabin and guns attached to it. Shooty, blasty, boomy ones powered by murder thoughts.
andyo:
Again, unfortunately not. A sterling example of a non-cognitive elite goddist. Resembles a parrot* in nature, repeats the same shit over and over.
*Not to insult parrots, mind.
Ing: OK, take these then. You’ll need them to operate most of the main systems. You definitely won’t have much room for anything else but the weapons. I’m storing an entire invasion fleet of LOLdestroyers on-board the current LOLstar, along with several divisions of LOLtroopers, neither of which you will probably need.
quoting Dano:
I wasn’t gonna, but now I can’t resist: WTF is it with people who think that saying either of the 2 above things make them sound somehow reasonable, centrist, or ethical.
Oh, me, I disapprove of cops running into people’s homes & drawing guns on folks based on what kinds of sex they may or may not be having. Yes indeedy.
Oh, and BTW? I am okay with the cops not arresting bloggers and/or shutting down web sites with which I disagree…always with the unspoken caveat that I don’t disagree **too much**. Because some things just have to be taken down (child porn, say) so I know I don’t have to say there are limits, which gets me off the hook of saying exactly what my limits *are*. So, of course, the fact that I think it’s at all a question that reasonable people might not agree with the freedom to write as one wishes on the internet – up to a point that I won’t specify – clearly makes me a GoodPerson(tm).
I mean FFS, how can either of the two statements do anything other than show that the writer considers the basics of the freedoms of speech, association, and privacy to be reasonable questions?
Dano, these statements make you look more of a jerk than your insistence without evidence that some “vast majority” considers KC’s movies 1/2 as inspiring as the Sunshine Band.
There’s no bigger asshole than the asshole that genuinely thinks he’s a nice guy.
Pleasant??? PLEASANT??? According to his former “Growing Pains” co-stars, Cameron was an insufferable, pious, asshole after he found JEEZ-us.
…and speaking of insufferable assholes…
@ Dano
On the off chance that is anywhere close to be statistically true, it would prove my theory that the majority of human beings in general–and Americans in particular–are too fucking stupid to be trusted with self-governance.
You and all (yes, ALL) other Christian draggers-of-knuckle on this continent are the reason the rest of the civilized world points and laughs at the U.S..
First you torpedo my trust in Western democracy, now you’ve flushed the last lingering shreds of my support for freedom of speech and religion (Or, should I really call them the “freedom to lie and spread lies?”) right down the crapper. Wow! That’s two for two.
Oh! How magnanimous of you! I suppose I should get down on my knees and kiss your feet for not killing us as your fricking holy book commands you to.
Is it just me, or don’t these right-wing fundy affirmations of freedom of speech ALWAYS sound phony?
Right… The multiplexes are just PACKED with soft-brained Christards waiting to throw away good money see another Z-grade adaptation of the “Left Behind” novels.
Of course, heterosexuals can flaunt their sexuality in public as Tha’ Lawd intended, right?
No, you seem more like an ass-man to me.
(You morons really do walk into these things, don’t you?)
Dano, simple question. Do you think that I am an abomination?
(Just so you know, I am a dyke.)
I didn’t actually watch any of those sitcoms. I’m starting to suspect I wasn’t actually alive in the 80s… Apparently, I’m actually a replicant, and these are implanted memories, and whoever put ’em together wasn’t here in the 80s either.
Anyway, seriously, it’s also actually pretty awesome to see a buncha former child stars who look so happy, well-adjusted, together, so on. Y’know, what with the standard media cliché being: famous at ten, dead from overdose at 25*.
Seriously, I think I even want to see more from these people. They’re cool. Hollywood, take note.
(/*Speaking of: it’s probably already been mooted, but could this be our explanation for Cameron? Jesus is his post-TV-fame self-destructive habit? If so, it’s really a pity the Betty Ford doesn’t treat that.)
@andyo I also laughed at the fingers / clap bit.
Would you like to swing on a star…
AJ Milne, do not feel too bad about that. For me, paying attention to child stars ended with Melissa Gilbert and Melissa Sue Anderson and that was shortly after the Ingalls moved to Minnesota. (Not sure and do not care what season that was.) I watched none of those shows but I do appreciate what those former child stars are doing.
Always late to the party but…
On the Funny or Die site:
Susan Olsen:
Why wasn’t I called for this??? Come on, 70’s kid actors hate Kirk just as much!”
Ariaflame,
Actually, I wouldn’t know that. This is what I saw at the time. I couldn’t make out the lyrics then, but just hearing the song I remember the tune clearly.
“the vast majority” = “most people at my church”
Never heard of the guy, so I looked him up in Wikipedia. Looks like he was a big child star between 1985-1992. I wasn’t watching mainstream TV much then…
Then he hooked up with his new-found evangelical brethren to lend a little Hollywood sheen to their crap productions, and he’s been mostly doing that ever since until the surprise success of the movie Fireproof, whatever that is.
So, he went from teen atheist to creationist homophobe hack and he’s got a couple of minutes back in the light which he is taking advantage of to spread ignorance and hate.
What are the odds that Kirk had a homoerotic experience as a kid (who didn’t?) and probably liked it.
Because he cannot reconcile his reality with the warped teaching of the church he hates on fags instead of losing his religion.
What a dick.
Porco Idiot, are you ever not an offensive idiot? It’s hard to figure out how you manage to keep breathing, given your particular level of stupidity.
@andyo – Yep, out of this world, though I saw it in English.
Hey, at least Porco Dio is being an offensive idiot about the actual subject of a post.
Maybe one day we’ll see PD actually engaging other idiots instead of lambasting everyone else for not using his idiot-handling methods.
vaiyt:
I suppose one can dream…
Loved it! But Caligula was Roman, not Greek. Big difference.
@ my critics: massive comprehension fail…
[meta]
Porco @69, pretty poor apology, there.
(That is not your worst problem, nor does it excuse you)
No. Cameron is one of those Christers that say “I used to be an atheist” in place of “I wasn’t always a Christian”.
Me – and so fucking what? Were you always this stupid, Porco Dio, or did it take prolonged practice?
@dano:
Do you know what is typically meant by “I don’t care what gay people do in their homes?” It will explain why people are so angry at you.
That sentence there doesn’t mean that you’re accepting of gay rights. It doesn’t mean you think that gays have the same rights as everyone else. It is almost usually followed by “but don’t throw it in my face.”
That sentence is mean, it’s dehumanizing. It’s telling gay people that they can’t share stories about their relationships. They can’t say “my husband” or “my wife” without someone reacting with shock and horror. It’s telling gay people that they need to stay silent about who they love.
In a world where heterosexual people are free to describe who they’re married to – a picture of their families, bringing their spouse to office parties, even saying “my wife wants me to pick up milk” – to deny that to homosexual families is just plain mean.
No, massive communication and cogency fail on your part. If everybody complains, maybe its you. And everybody is complaining except you…
Oh go away Porco.
@56–
Cameron likes to brag that he was an atheist but actually his mom is very religious and actually wrote a book bragging that her Christian child raising techniques saved her kids from the world of drugs and soft core porno. (Kirk’s sister was also in a lesser-known cheesy sitcom. I forget which one. She hasn’t done any porno that I’ve heard.)
The one thing that is clear about little Kirk is that being a highly paid teen sex symbol turned him into a slut, a drinker, a brat, and an unsafe driver. Then he crashed his car up and almost died. I think the car was actually a Porsche. Kirk asked God for a sign and felt all warm and fuzzy. Apparently he never looked back.
Stories like this are depressingly common in the world of hard-core religious fanatics. I think it says more about how the brain can go wrong than anything else.
First, citation please.
The vast majority of what group? All people?
Or just the people who see them?
And I wonder what group the vast majority of people who see those movies belong to?
And you wonder why they think the movies are inspiring?
Interesting article from Scientific American:
Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals
Hilarious, especially the slogan at the end! I’d love to show my support by wearing one of those t-shirts, although I have a feeling nobody I know would have the slightest idea who Kirk Cameron is.
Akira, no need to kiss my feet. Knowing you are understanding of the need for a higher power is enough. I am guessing your higher power is quite different though.
Janine, No obomination at all. I in fact do not hate anyone regardless of their beliefs, gender or sexual preference. I do hope that in the future everyone will find something or someone to guide them in living their life the best way they can.
An other simple question. Why do you find inspirational a man who trumpets a view of life that would condemn me?
I followed that link, and found a related story: Top Scientists Get to the Bottom of Gay Male Sex Role Preferences.
Yes, it’s aptly named.
You need a new guide. You are one offensive fuckwitted idjit. Try it without imaginary deities and mythical/fictional holy books. The results might surprise you.
But will it get to the bottom of Teh Gay Seks With Brownian?
Oh my, I laughed so hard at the video that it brought tears to my eyes. Cameron deserves the mockery, as much as he can get. I have never understood why anyone would think that an endorsement by an actor means anything more than the words. Actors are paid to be good at memorizing lines and repeating them. What remotely qualifies an actor’s point of view above any other random human being, aside from the ability to _sound_ more convincing? Stupidity repeated in an apparently heartfelt manner is no less stupid. The reverse, unfortunately, is not accepted by most people. The most factual and logical argument convinces no one if the presentation stinks. (That’s why most scientists practice our scientific talks.)
dano,
Maybe you need another translation, though Katherine Lorraine probably said it better. Homosexuals don’t merely want the “freedom” to be “allowed” to do whatever they want in the privacy (closets?) of their own homes. They want the exact same freedom as you and I have, everywhere. No one has denied my right to take care of my wife when she’s sick or take time off to bring my son to the doctor, but I have friends who can’t do it. One is scared to even mention a long term relationship for fear of being fired by a bigoted “family values” boss. In fact, all of our rights are supposed to be guaranteed in the Constitution or by federal and state law, but common usage renders that meaningless when people can be fired and discriminated against simply for being themselves. They don’t want “special rights”, they want the same rights.
Your inspiring Kirk Cameron isn’t called a bigot because he’s an actor (lousy actor vs. inspiring is completely irrelevant). He’s mocked because he espouses a point of view akin to apartheid, just based on something other than skin color but equally superficial as far as human rights go. People who wants to suppress the rights of other humans as compared to themselves are simply wrong.
For example, marriage equality laws are slowly spreading, but the bigotry and fear are spreading too, thanks mainly to big tax-free money and labor from the LDS, Mormons, Catholics, and Baptists. I asked my wife if she thought that our gay friends “threatened” our marriage like it says in the Gay-Menace “preserve traditional marriage” commercials. She laughed and called the writers of the commercials dangerous idiots. If you’re not already prone to thinking of gay people as “other”, then all of the arguments against gay marriage are exposed as obvious fear-based fact-free propaganda. Cameron’s arguments sound equally hollow, not inspiring, and he comes across like a bigot (a younger version of Archie Bunker, to me, but not remotely funny).
“the vast majority of people find Kirk’s movies inspiring”
Possibly a half-vast majority.
Or that we can all grow up and be adults instead, making our own way through life, taking “guidance” in bits and pieces from relationships with those around us and various other sources.
That’s a mystery that cannot be solved with only one dimension. You need to consider higher-dimensional sexuality such as North-South, East-West, and those curly little dimensions the string theorists are always notching their bedposts over. (I’ve provisionally named a few of them: spoon, cuddle, and fingerhook. Altogether, these make up Kinsey-Yau space. It’s all very complicated, which is the most erotic kind of complicated.)
This video made me smile.
I, in fact, shared it will all my friends.
Hopefully it will make them smile as well.
Also, as a godless, society destroying sodomite I got the joke. I was completely unoffended by the sex jokes and sex centric tone of the video. I was more offended by them calling NPH and asshole. That stung! Poor Neil. D:
KJ
@KillJoy:
You’re a sodomite :O
That’s just terrible! You should be ashamed of yourself! Imagine, being uncharitable and inhospitable! You make me sick!
(joke of course.)
KillJoy, I think they were kidding. The general impression, it seems to me, is that NPH is a great person.
As a side note KC is a shitty actor. And it’s partially due to his religious view. Acting is a “DARK ART”. You have to get inside the head of the person you’re playing. Cameron flatly refuses to do that for anyone who may disagree with him. This limits both roles available and effectively means that he is not practicing acting anymore. He is done…he cannot improve because he’s stuck on the same slope over and over again.
I was a little confused about all the gay sex talk until it struck me: they were being as offensive as possible to homophobes. Homophobes are so unanimously and simultaneously obsessed with and horrified by teh gay seks that the actors needed to give them what they want, so to speak.
Selection bias at work there methinks – there can’t be a very large number of people who’ve made it through more than a few minutes of any movie Kirk has been in, therefore the list of people who can say they are inspired by his movies can only really include the near terminally brain dead.
Are you perhaps confusing Camerons? I hear James is held in slightly higher esteem.
Also fuck you.
Actually, the vast majority of people find me inspiring, dano, and think Kirk Cameron is a washed-up sack of douche.
I’ll disclose my source data when you do.
Also, fuck you.
Thanks for the inspiration, Ewan R: I think I’ve found myself a sig.
I am a straight woman, and I like CCOKC. Hmmm…that just doesn’t seem to have the same impact as the declarations of some of the other CCOKC-lovers around here….
And, dano (if you’re still hanging around):
I agree…just not to what you think they are inspiring. Derision, boredom, nausea; there are many options. For instance, I find that KC in the movies inspires in me a deep sense of apathy.
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Agreed. It’s usually only the ones who do a spectacular crash-and-burn that make the news. “If it bleeds….”
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Cicely, I am still here just not as much as I would like to be due to other obligations….I have a lot to pray for each time I read everyone’s responses.
Nice, real respectful.
Love as a weapon.
Seriously that is the most perverse thing about Xianity, turning forgiveness and compassion into a social axe to embed in the head of the unworthy heathens.
If Tolkien was right and the purpose of evil is to pervert that which is good into twisted parodies of itself than Xianity cannot deny this charge.
No wonder you cannot understand what anyone is telling you.
Quit wasting your time here and stay within a locked featureless room. This will keep you away from a world that makes you compulsively pray.
Or at least unplug your computer.
So you engage in masturbation. Some Xian you are to admit that in public.
I’m fine with religion and people’s religious beliefs INSIDE THEIR OWN HOMES, DANO!
Pray for us all you want but it is offensive and rude to tell us.
Dano (and assorted queers and allies; please note how it’s done and please join me in asserting more agency and less asking for stuff):
That you’re “Ok with” what people do in their private lives is irrelevant. Your permission, comfort, attitudes about, approval of, or loathing for what anyone does is orthogonal to reality. I realize you and lots of bigots find this shocking, but you don’t actually have the ability to benevolently grant us your forbearance or circumscribe our existence. It matters not one whit whether you’re “OK with” anything—no one gives a shit.
We exist and we will have full legal equality regardless of what you think. Notice how I’m not echoing what some others have said here; I’m not saying “we want the right to.” Because I’m not asking your permission legally, ethically, or existentially. We don’t need it.
We are taking our rights this very moment, rights that are inalienable and ours merely by virtue of being human beings. Neither you nor your church nor any government has a legitimate right to arrogate to yourselves the dispensation or withholding of these rights.
And we’re winning which is what scares you so much. You know you’re on the dying end of a rapidly closing chapter of shameful bigotry. Your views are no longer automatically applauded; they’re often mocked right to your face. Get used to a whole lot more of that. It isn’t going to stop. You’re not the top of the cultural privilege heap anymore. Deal with it.
Or don’t. But you better get the fuck up out of my face with your bullshit because I won’t put up with it and neither will the queers around here. Keep fucking with us and we’ll be ALL UP IN YOUR SHIT. Trust me.
Ing:
That’s not love. It’s fear. Foaming at the mouth fear, fueling hatred of the known, falling face first in the dirt to worship ignorance.
Can I be a Love Vigilante?
I have been told that my love is an offensive weapon…
…but it was by a very harsh Judge. Damn you restraining order!!!
Louis
P.S. I love CCOKC. Big fan. I have one at home in fact, constantly playing with it I am. My wife loves a bit of CCOKC. Total CCOKCaholic, can’t get enough of the stuff. CCOKC in the morning, CCOKC in the evening CCOKC, in the summer time. In fact, there’s a song about that, what was it now, oh yes, “CCOKC in the morning, CCOKC in the evening CCOKC in the summer time.”. (Apologies to Pete and Dud).
P.P.S. Hurrah for homophones!
P.P.P.S. And most importantly Hurrah for homosexuals. Stick up for homosexuals, they stick it up for you.*
* Even the lesbians with their strap ons and fingers and and and and and and…
…I’m off for a cold shower.
Janine,
Lurve Vigilante, surely.
{Blaxplotation movie music plays}
Awwwwww yeah.
Louis
Tongues. Do not forget the tongues.
Standing ovation for Josh.
I FORGET TEH TUNGZ!
I has a sad.
Cumulonimbus is one of my most favouritest things.
Louis
Oh, yeah
I’m just a love machine
And I won’t work for nobody but you
(Yeah baby)
I’m just a love machine
A hugging kissing fiend
I think it’s high time you knew
Whenever I think of you
My mind blows a fuse
(Baby)
When I look in your eyes
My meter starts to rise
And I become confused
My motor cranked electric goes
When I’m sitting next to you
Electricity starts to flow
And my indicator starts to glow
La, la la la la, la la la la, la la
La la la la la, la la la, la la la
I’m gentle as a lamb
I’m not that hard to program
There’s no way that you can lose
Chassis fits like a glove
I’ve got a button for love
That you’ve got to use
(Push it, push it baby)
If you look into my power
I am sure you can find out how
To turn me on just set my dial
And let me love you for a little while, ooh
(I, I)
I’m just a love machine
And I won’t work for nobody but you
(Oh, yeah)
I’m just a love machine (Yeah baby)
A hugging kissing fiend
La, la la la la, la la la la, la la
La la la la la, la la la, la la la
Push it push it baby, yeah, ah, ah
Janine,
Oh I know they were being silly. So was I. XD
I love NPH, so I had to say something.
KJ
Sorry, KillJoy.
I should have known better.
Ahem! That was a New Order reference!
Josh @ 104
Well said.
I would comment further, but well, you expressed it so much better than I would have.
KJ
KillJoy:
Who doesn’t love Dr. Horrible?
“I’ve got a Ph.D in Horribleness.“
Now I need to dig out Trouble Man by Marvin Gaye and Superfly by Curtis Mayfield.
Pusherman
Josh,
Thank you for the correction (and bravo, well said).
dano,
What about my comment required prayer? What part of my pointing out reality caused you to request aid from an almighty being, that you could not have done for yourself by, say, asking me questions? Do you think I need smiting or some such divine retribution? Have I committed a church-thought-crime? Or are you seeking guidance for being out of touch with so many other human beings’ view of the world? I, and I’m guessing many other people here, would be glad to keep pointing out how your “teh gheys should stay in the closet” rhetoric is actively harmful to other people.
If you are confused about Josh’s comment, realize that being on the receiving end of hatred makes one justifiably upset. Even your patented style of hatred fear and loathing with prayer. Hint: If you’re condemning people for existing and you are asking their creator to change them from how they were allegedly created due to your own discomfort, then it’s your problem you need to change, not them. Your prayer is not about love, it’s fear. Don’t pray for us, pray for yourself.
[Reads Josh’s comment. Stands on chair]
O Captain! My Captain!
Jerry:
This ^ has a great deal to do with it. The human beings are taking over and those who prefer a primitive brain and primitive ways are becoming irrelevant. They can either upgrade and join humanity or get the fuck off the island.
Caine,
Dr. Horrible is one of the few things I own on DVD.
I, quite literally, squealed with delight the first time I was exposed to it.
KJ
Josh:
Wow.
Fandamntastic!
Oops. Forgot my sig to Dano:
Also, fuck you.
KillJoy:
That’s because it’s concentrated Super-Joy™ and has magickal powers. Oh my yes.
Yeah, I have to admit, NPH looks adorable in those goggles.
I dunno. Anything with NPH, Nathan Fillion and Felicia Day has almost lethal levels of awesome. It should be kept away from children and anyone with a heart condition.
Moggie,
Exactly!
Im not really a ‘squeal with delight’ kind of guy.
The most common adjectives used to describe me are stoic, cold, and frightening. Its completely out of character for me.
But Dr. Horrible was so completely awesome it broke through that shell and made me squeal.
KJ
According to this impeachable source the next installment of Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog will be done this summer.
I’m an oldster and these folks are all complete strangers to me. I like it though. It makes me think of a tribal culture. Kirk Cameron has pissed off his own tribe.
That says something — Kirk ought to take notice of that. He wont. Unfortunately.
I have a question that I hope others can answer. When I see the ad for “Maryland Marriage Alliance” on Pharyngula, I click on it, just to make those inbred cretins pay Google and FTB a few cents for bothering me. I don’t actually sign up for anything on their website, because (a) they’re loathsome, and (b) I once received all sorts of vile hatred and grift from a homophobe’s newsletter in Loudon VA. It turns out that “survey” I answered was counted as signing up for his newsletter and misrepresented as a petition _agreeing_ with its hatred. (Not going to mention its’ name lest it appear, comment, and vanish in a blast of sewer gas.) Should I sign up for the MMA to make them waste more of their astroturf money on sending me crap to recycle, or be concerned that they will sell my name to NOM, Opus Dei, KKK and other like-minded idjits?
Jerry, if you are using Firefox, you can install Adblocker and not have to see that shit at all. I do not see any ads doing this.
Jerry, I wouldn’t sign up. Like the “survey” which shall not be named, these dishonest assclowns will use your name to shore up their numbers.
♫Don’t pray for me, Argentina….♫
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*applause* for Josh.
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[Brownian doesn’t mention that Nathan Fillion drinks at the same pub as Brownian when NF visits his hometown. He just thinks it.]
Nathan Fillion and Brownian?
*explodes*
Moggie, do not start with the slash fiction of Nathan Fillion having gay seks with Brownian.
Unless you use the line. And you know what line I am talking about.
*raspberry*
Get out of my head! Get out of my head!
Who are you talking to, Brownian?
Great. Oh great. Just when I thought there was a chance for the resident homophobes to start thinking of teh ghey menace as actual human beans, now all that’s going through their heads are scenes of Brownian and Fillion having sex. Repeatedly. Over and over. ‘Cause thanks to Scientific American everyone now knows that most homophobes are really closet cases. Gay sex scenes going through their heads. Over and over. (Just waiting for the news reports of a slew of fatal brain aneurysms in megachurches and GOP caucuses.) Hey, I wonder if this is a good tactic to win elections and improve the gene line at the same time?
I, uh, I thought Moggie had read something I only thought I’d thought, but I guess I, uh…I’m going to lie down for a bit.
[Eyes thread suspiciously, checks Netflix to see if it has Gaslight.]
You’ll be in your bunk?
Dano:
“I along with almost everyone I know am looking forward to his next film and will continue to recommend and pay to see it.”
So does this mean that when “Kirk Cameron’s 50 Fist Weekend”* comes out he will actually recommend and pay to see it?
Oh, and thanks for your approval of what I do in private. Now I can suck as much cock as I want without worrying about what Dano thinks.
*Based on the title of a real gay porn video.
Jerry:
This is a good thing. Excellent, in fact. /Monty Burns
Moggie:
Given all the sexy brains ’round here and the never-ending Orgy of Intelligence™, we’re all in our bunks. Alla time.
dano@80, I do not need a guide, master or keeper. I want to make the decisions of how to live my life all by myself.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@84, I thought only women were allowed in the line?
Brownian@95, actually I do find you inspiring.I stretch to be as clever and interesting and don’t usually make it half way. By the way, what do you do with all those internets and threads you’ve won?
dano@98, I think, next time you feel the urge to comment, you should pray until it goes away. Then pray for a few more hours, just in case. I would appreciate it.
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@109 Never!!!
Moggie@110,
Me Too!
Janine: History’s Greatest Monster@132, I used to use adblock at sciblogs but (correct me if I’m wrong) I don’t think FtB gets paid unless we see the ads? I thought it was something good to allow all ads here. Aside from the “donate” button it’s my little way of contributing (besides, the Snorg t-shirt ad is cool).
Ray, rude-ass yankee
To counter that I’m allowing AdBlock+ to show ads that their filters consider non-intrusive. Static images, preferably text-only… oh why am I trying to explain, here’s a link.
So far I haven’t noticed a single ad at FtB. Which kind of tells something about the advertisers.
Ray:
Where on earth did you get that idea?
Josh at #104. Shit, that made me choke up a little and I might just have done a fist pump whist exclaiming “Fuck YES!” Might have that is, no pictures and it never happened…..
Brownian at #135. Why the hell do I always find out these interesting things about the places I *used* to live? I worked within a block and a half of that pub for over a decade. Shit. At this rate the next time I move the new tenants of my former home will discover the Higgs boson hiding in the hall cupboard.
Weed Monkey@147,
Thanks for the link, I didn’t remember seeing that new feature, but I still try to support this site as best I can because of the interesting blogs/bloggers and commenters I find here, and if that means looking at some ads, I’m OK with that.
Caine, Cruel Monster@148,
I remember some discussion of the origin of the ghey secks thing, that a troll thought a female commenter was male and told her to have ghey secks with Brownian, so by that definition only women could do it. I guess by your reaction, I’m wrong? Where do I take a number? :P
Wow, I’ve ranged kind of far afield. So, on topic, the people in the video are awesome! I laughed through the whole thing. Great work.
Ray:
The line’s that way ———>
It’s a long line.
Caine, Cruel Monster@152
I’ll be patient.
Jerry thanks for signing up. I always appreciate when someone admits they’re wrong and makes switch to the other side. May I suggest http://www.christianlifeandliberty.net for some more great reading about life, passion and love? I know when a blogger posts a story that has the words say marriage in it the web host puts in the closest ad such as http://www.mnformarriage.com or http://www.christians.com. I still get a laugh every time I see a Christian ad on here just as you would laugh I am sure on the flip side. Feel free to check out the above sites and learn more about living life to its fullest extent without sin and persecution as you will be living the high life. No not Miller Time just the good life. I am trying to learn from your site and I have even stoped ending my posts with Cheers! (Christian code for God Bless). I have sympathy for everyone here, not for being gay, but for not being able to truly understand your place on this earth and the lessons that can be learned by following in the foot steps of the one that died for all of our sins.
Lies and bullshit by professional liars and bullshitters Dano. Until they can show their imaginary deity actually exists, and that the babble isn’t a book of mythology fiction, that is all Xian writing is. And you have shown nothing.
The first thing you need to learn is the concept of evidence. It isn’t testimony like Xians give. It is hard and physical like on a CSI show. And your deity and holy book come up empty under those conditions.
This is nonsense as Yahweh never exist, jebus as son of Yahweh didn’t exist, so it it utterly and totally a presupposition argument. Which means it is false, as you presume the conclusion in the axioms, instead of presuming the opposite. Bad philosophy is when you try to define your answer.
Wow. You really need to learn to read more carefully.
*snort* You mean reading about rape, murder, genocide, torture, slavery and witless cruelty for cruelty’s sake. The bible is the manual for how to be an amoral monster. Why yes, all that shit is upheld in the NT by Jesus, too. If you don’t know that, you need to stop believing the shit that is being shoveled into your head.
Now, that amoral, evil, psycho god of yours is a cheater, too. Fucker cheats like there’s no tomorrow. All through the bible, it’s busy “hardening peoples hearts”, multiple times, even, so that rather than acting like they normally would, they are manipulated into behaving in a manner which El Shaddai seems to feel justifies wholesale slaughter.
Now, according to 1 Peter:
the saved and the damned are predestined. There’s no way around that whatsoever. That’s your bible, Cupcake. By the way, that’s not the only time predestination is mentioned in the NT.
As that’s the case, stop your moronic witnessing, head for your closet and shove your head back up your ass so you can have a chat with God the monster and leave us be. You’re boring us to death here, Cupcake.
Janine:
I could have written that.
Also, The Love Vigilantes would be a terrific band name.
Caine:
I suspect Swine God employs earbuds and an iPod with several hours of nothing on it but, “Inhale…. Exhale…. Inhale…. Exhale….”
Josh: Well said.
Bill Daniels:
Did you know it’s possible to see stars from laughing? Well, now you do.
ROTFLMAO
there are 7billion people in the world, most of whom haven’t even heard of Kirk. But nevermind that; it’s not even true for the US. Though I’m sure it’s true for dano’s bible-study group.
well, I’m glad they inspired the slacktivist to make fun of them; both his book and movie “reviews” of Left Behind are fucking hilarious :-p
oh dano, please learn to read before trying to engage on the internet.
this may come as a shock to you, but people don’t need christianity to enjoy any of those things; in fact, it tends to severely interfere with them.
i understand my “place on this earth” just fine; that’s what GPS was invented for
If you can find the time in your busy schedule of not actually reading what people write, maybe you can explain exactly what “sin” is? Give the most thorough definition that you can.
And for gays this “place” involves negating who they are, for women it means being smiley second-class citizens whose most important role is that of a walking incubator.
And you wonder why some of us don’t “understand”.
Fuck you and all your twisted “love”.
I know my “place” on earth. It’s the only one that can ever make me happy because I made it.
I showed this to a gay friend, with a bit of apprehension. He couldn’t quit laughing. I asked, “You didn’t find any of it offensive?”
He said, “Aw hell, if you can’t laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?”
My respect for him went up a notch.
I especially liked the Neil Patrick Harris bit. He’s probably still catching flak for Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle.