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  1. Crudely Wrott says

    Dammit, boy! Now you’ve gone and done it! The secret is out, everybody knows now so it’s no use, see. Give it up kiddies, I’m so sorry. The beans are spilt and now they all know that we do stuff with our parts. Oh, what a world! Who could ever have seen it coming to this?

  2. George says

    It’s okay, even encouraged, to end a deer’s life by ripping it’s flesh and organs to shreds with pieces of flying metal, but sex with a dead animal is something that just cannot be allowed.

    Got it.

  3. Joshua says

    Well, to be honest, those animal skin condoms probably should be banned simply for being completely ineffective anyway.

    Also, I think you could argue for a legitimate public health reason to criminalise necrophilia. However, I’m sure this particular decision was motivated more by squickiness and a desire to control what people with their genitalia, instead. As is usual with these cases.

  4. says

    Ha. Kentucky foresaw this problem and passed laws against having sex with the dead, having sex with animals, and having sex with dead animals.

    This was apparently something the legislature felt needed addressing.

    At least, I think it was Kentucky….

  5. Sean says

    Interesting the range of state laws on this subject.

    You may recall the Washington state incident last year where a man died of complications from being on the receiving end of a horse. Was news to me that bestiality was not against the law in that state. There was talk about filing animal cruelty charges against the operators of the farm, but since the horse was not actually harmed…

    The talk then was that a law needed to be passed on the grounds that an animal cannot give consent. Wouldn’t the cessation of life functions of said animal kinda make the consent issue moot?

    Anyway, as sick as I may find the practice, I disagree with the judge. I no longer classify an animal as an animal upon death. It gets moved into the meat category.

  6. Phoenician in a time of Romans says

    It has been officially determined that you are not allowed to have sex with animals, even if they are dead.

    Hah! That’s only the case in the repressed censourious FASCIST United States! Here in the FREE country of New Zealand, we –

    No, wait a minute.

  7. anomalous4 says

    Sean says:

    I no longer classify an animal as an animal upon death. It gets moved into the meat category.

    That takes you into a whole ‘nother realm of kinkiness. Didn’t your mommy ever tell you not to play with your food?

    And will you respect that steak in the morning?

  8. Tatarize says

    So is sex with a steak now illegal?

    This ruling seems a little crappy, I mean the bestiality laws are to protect animals from cruelty. I don’t see the harm here. I think tell everybody he screwed a dead deer and let him go.

  9. G. Tingey says

    I’m sorry, but the science and society exhibit, bookmarked by PZ, just made me laugh so much ……
    Incidentally, I would have thought “French late 18th Century” would have been a more likely period: Marie Antoinette, De Sade, etc ……..

  10. Mark UK says

    What about chocolate? I understand that eating chocolate releases similar compounds in the brain as when having sex? If that is true (I’m sure somebody here will enlighten me) than is chocolate having sex with me? So, it is OK the other way ’round? Food can play with us, but we can’t play with food?

    I think the solution is to make sex only legal if it is consensual. Need a written statement first. Anyway, interesting to read that a dead animal is still an animal and still has rights. As an animal you have the right to be shot, killed in any other creative way and grilled. But you are not allowed some tender love and care? So unfair.

  11. Ichthyic says

    The Judge made his thinking on the issue absolutely clear:

    He[Lucci] added that the “primary focus” of Wisconsin’s criminal statute dealing with crimes against sexual morality is on “human behavior and on protecting sexual morality in the community, and not necessarily on animal protection.”

    so the issue of whether it was live or dead is moot. all they care about is the sex part. so yeah, if you had sex with a steak in public, they would likely prosecute you for that too.

    hmm, that gives me an idea…

    I have some largish fish in my freezer…

  12. RickD says

    What about fruit and vegetable products?

    What about baked products? Would Jason Biggs’ dalliance with an apple pie be considered criminal? What if it had been a steak and kidney pie?

  13. bernarda says

    Are there any laws against having sex with plants, living or dead?

    A joke:

    A northerner was vacationing in the backwoods of Mississippi and went into a local bar. The guys hanging out looked at him suspiciously. The bartender, hearing his accent, asked, “You’re not from these parts, are you?”

    The northerner, said no, I’m from Chicago.

    Bartender then asks, “What do you do.”

    Northerner, “I’m a taxidermist.”

    Bartender, “What does a taxidermist do?”

    Northerner, “I stuff dead animals.”

    The bartender turns to the guys and says, “He’s ok guys, he is one of us.”

  14. Kristjan Wager says

    Hah! That’s only the case in the repressed censourious FASCIST United States! Here in the FREE country of New Zealand, we –

    No, wait a minute.

    80 million sheep, 3 million humans, need I say more?

  15. The Anti Atheist says

    Rest assured, I have never wanted animal skins on my cock.

    I always thought that was sicko.

    But, to each his own!

  16. Coragyps says

    “Are there any laws against having sex with plants, living or dead?”

    Not that I know of. But always check that knothole for bees first.

  17. Coragyps says

    Oh, and “Kentucky” reminds me: why do hillbillies wrap squirrels in duct tape?

    So they won’t split when they fuck ’em.

  18. anomalous4 says

    [WARNING! Major skank attack ahead. Fasten your seat belts and proceed at your own risk.]

    is chocolate having sex with me?

    If it is, don’t tell the Catholic church. They’ll add it to the list of sins.

    “Bless me, Father, for I have sinned…. I had oral sex with a Hershey bar…”

    I have some largish fish in my freezer…

    Now that gives a whole new meaning to the words “tartar sauce.”

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    What about fruit and vegetable products?

    Cucumbers and zucchini are a single girl’s best friends! Bananas are OK too.

    On the flip side: About 30 years ago, Penthouse published a letter from a guy who was into oranges. Literally.

    Going back to the animal kingdom: I won’t even mention the one from the guy who was so underendowed, he couldn’t get any the regular way, so he took to chasing after the ducks at the local park. Oops, I mentioned it. So sue me. And all this time you thought “f*ck a duck” was just a figure of speech!

    “Different strokes
    for different folks,
    and so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby…..”

    80 million sheep, 3 million humans, need I say more?

    That reminds me of what they said about the Falkland Islands when England and Argentina were squabbling over it a few years back:

    “Where men are men, women are too, and sheep are scared to death.”

    (BTW, the real winners in that farce of a “war” were the penguins, who acquired a lot of new territory because unlike humans and livestock, they aren’t heavy enough to set off the land mines.)

    But always check that knothole for bees first.

    There are other things to watch out for too. You you don’t want to have to explain to your doctor, or your main squeeze, how you got that crotch rot that’s turned out to be poison ivy……

    [End of skank attack. We now return you to your regularly scheduled speculationfest already in progress.]

  19. Frumious B says

    We don’t have a problem with people eating dead animals, so why is it a problem to have sex with them? I mean, gross, sure, but morally wrong?

  20. Greco says

    That reminds me of what they said about the Falkland Islands when England and Argentina were squabbling over it a few years back:
    “Where men are men, women are too, and sheep are scared to death.”

    I’ve always liked the Borges description: two bald men fighting over a comb.
    Ahhhh, making fun of the hermanos. Now I have to think of a good way to mock Maradona.

  21. Deepsix says

    So, how was the guy caught? Was he doing “it” in public?
    What state does the deceased have to be in for it to be a crime? An intact carcass? What if the guy cut out the tenderloin and wrapped that around his wang? Just curious (not in that way!).

  22. Torbjörn Larsson says

    Another sexual practice I didn’t need to learn about. But to each his own.

    Apart from ickiness and degrading objectification, I find it more offensive that the barely grown up defendants photo is published. Sure, eventually the criminal charge can lead to conviction. But does each convict gets their photo published? Especially offensive if the charge is dropped and the affair returns to being private with, um, private parts involved.

    That is also no way to get him girls, which I assume was the main idea behind the charge.

  23. Torbjörn Larsson says

    Another sexual practice I didn’t need to learn about. But to each his own.

    Apart from ickiness and degrading objectification, I find it more offensive that the barely grown up defendants photo is published. Sure, eventually the criminal charge can lead to conviction. But does each convict gets their photo published? Especially offensive if the charge is dropped and the affair returns to being private with, um, private parts involved.

    That is also no way to get him girls, which I assume was the main idea behind the charge.

  24. Torbjörn Larsson says

    “That is also no way to get him girls, which I assume was the main idea behind the charge.”

    Forgot the convict effect. Okay, that is no way to get him *sane* girls.

  25. Torbjörn Larsson says

    “That is also no way to get him girls, which I assume was the main idea behind the charge.”

    Forgot the convict effect. Okay, that is no way to get him *sane* girls.

  26. Ichthyic says

    So, how was the guy caught? Was he doing “it” in public?

    oh yeah. right next to a set of train tracks, and a commuter train full of folks went by, IIRC.

  27. says

    ` Why the hell would anyone have sex with a dead deer!??!

    ` Or a dead lamb’s skin…. (Then again, condoms used to be made out of leather all the time….)

  28. Phoenician in a time of Romans says

    80 million sheep, 3 million humans, need I say more?

    As the saying goes, Chacon a son goat (*)

    (*) “Each to their own perversion.”

  29. Neal Deesit says

    “What about fruit and vegetable products?”

    A woman for duty,
    A boy for pleasure,
    But a melon for ecstasy.
    – Old Turkish proverb