Adam Deen of the “Deen Institute” (he’s the founder and executive director) (of the “institute” he bashfully named after himself) is ranting at and about Maryam Namazie on Twitter. He’s ok with ex-Muslims, you see (for the purposes of this discussion), but not with ex-Muslim extremists. What’s that? One observer suggested “the difference is between silence and speech.”
Author of Jesus & Mo obliged with an illustration.
Adam Deen (of the eponymous “institute”) offered an amendment.
I see. Normal is moving on, extremist is criticizing what you left.
I don’t accept that definition of “extremist.”
It looks like you get to be an “extremist” on Deen’s reading just by actually verbalizing the ellipses. So, he’s not okay with someone explaining their position.
At that point, there doesn’t seem to be much value to be had paying attention to him.
Change “muslim” to “believer,” and the Author’s version works equally well for the difference between atheists and Gnu/Extreme Atheists.
Funny how you’re not expected to “move on” if you become a Muslim: “I converted to Islam… and then I moved on.”
Quite, and if you move too far on, there’s a death penalty for that.
“Deen” just means “religion” in arabic. So maybe he adopted the surname, assuming he converted.
But yes, there’s a nice false dichotomy he’s given us. One either keeps quiet about one’s former religion, or one starts saying batshit crazy things. No middle ground. You’re either one or the other. Wonder where that attitude came from?
Sort of like the difference between being a feminist and a Eurocentric colonialist liberal fundamentalist or being gay and shoving your homosexuality in someone’s face.
Seems to me that if anyone here “won’t be criticised” it’s Deen and his friends.
So he IS ashamed of his first (VERYFIRST!!!) name, Adam?* Where will he go, one wonders.
(Actually, one might in fact suspect his name is completely made-up, his Father probably named him Whooly cloth.)
It’s like this comic comparing “Old Atheists” and “New Atheists” – in both cases, the guy brandishing the bible says, “STAY QUIET!” The New Atheist says “No.” http://www.skepticmoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/old-atheists-vs-new-atheists-300×167.jpg
Me neither.
(Comic Book Guy voice) Worst. Definition. Of. “Extremist”. Evah.(/Comic Book guy voice.)
I prefer ex Muslim ‘extremists’ to Muslim extremists, no mention of high explosives, beheadings, FGM, theocracy, jihad….
Islam was spread by war, rape, pillage, banditry, slavery and forced conversion from its invention in the 7th century by following Mohammed’s example, so actually, who are the extremist Muslims?
Heh. The trick of course is that any reason you state for leaving Islam that anywhere includes “Islam is not true” is also attacking Islam and thus extremism.