TNET 45: Baelin’s Route

This is a kickstarter funded short film made by a group of New Zealand actors.

It is not the mostest originalest story ever written and it does contain a lot of fanservice to fans of their Epic NPC man series that probably does not resonate with audience outside that particular circle.

But I liked it and maybe some of you will too.

Open thread, talk whatever you like, just do not be an asshole.

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  1. Gelaos says

    Oh hey, never thought I’d see Viva La Dirt League content here. I stumbled upon this channel just a month ago and had a lot of fun. The Epic NPC man series is about videogame mechanics or gaming in general. I don’t know much about the NPC man, only that he says “Mornin’! Nice day for fishing, ain’t it? Ha ha!” a lot :)

    There are also few videos, e.g. Female armor in games, that adress (albeit still in a funny way) how the videogame industry and players can be often sexist.

  2. says

    Heya, I’m home today as the second vaccine shot apparently knocked me out. I got really bad nausea, which hit while driving, which is no fun. I then sat in school for an hour for my stomach to calm down and then carefully drove back home.


    I’m not sure which smells worse, cow manure or dried and pelletized chicken manure (which is the most common commercial biofertilizer here). Any way, an old saying here is: “Manure is the lord of the field.” (Sonta on pellon herra.*)

    I got the pelletised chicken shit as well. It stinks, but it decomposes quickly. I always laugh and think of my gran who used to rant that people would buy “shit in a nice bag” when something was really unnecessary and/or bad quality, because it’s exactly that (though not unnecessary)

  3. lumipuna says

    Giliell -- Sorry for your side effects. Since I explained my own longterm health issue in a recent comment, I was given an appointment for a vascular specialist on 30 August -- two days after I’m due to my second vaccine shot. Now I wonder if I should reschedule the shot.

    The chicken manure quote is from Ice Swimmer (not that it matters). Speaking of chickenshit, a month ago Finnish public broadcaster ran this story of a local environmental disaster in Pobeda, Russia. The top photo is a literal shit creek flowing from a field where a soviet-era chicken farm has dumped thousands of tons of chicken manure over the decades. People living in the village 1 km away suffer from the smell and polluted groundwater, and the leaking nutrients end up polluting the Baltic Sea.

    The story says there are many of these gigantic animal farms (esp. chicken farms) near St. Petersburg, to supply the city’s consumers, but not enough farmland the distribute the manure. The village of Pobeda is located about halfway between the city and Finnish border, formerly known as Finnish Kanneljärvi (“Harp Lake”). The places in that area were given new Russian names after WWII, of which Pobeda (“Victory”) is very historically symbolic.

  4. lumipuna says

    Yesterday’s top temperature at my nearest weather station was 31.6 C, which must be one of the highest ever recorded in June. Last night’s minimum was 22.6 C, which might be the highest ever recorded in June locally, if not nationally. Today, we seem to be staying just below 30 C, while there’s a big thunderstorm underway in parts of western Finland. Some places have reportedly had 3 cm diameter hail.

    Cooler weather can’t arrive soon enough.

  5. lumipuna says

    My brain is melting. I typed an update on the weather, then clicked “refresh” instead of “post comment”. That’s how the weather is here.

  6. lumipuna says

    We did have 30 C again, in early evening. One place in southeastern Finland had 33.6 C, when the national all-time record for June is 33.8 C.

  7. says

    I am barely able to function right now, I am getting severely depressed again. And not without a cause.

    The prospects of me making knives do not look well, for I am in a bureaucratic gridlock. My little workshop is perfectly OK and legal as long as I do not try running a business from there. Once I try that, some additional rules start applying (like an obligation to have running water) that are simply not possible to fulfill for me without investing serious money to completely re-wamp the whole building. I am reading up on the issue before I visit the business registration office next week. As far as I can understand the law, if they are forthcoming, I can be OK. If they are pissy and pedantic, I am screwed.

  8. lumipuna says

    Sorry for your workshop, Charly. Bureaucracy sucks.

    Speaking of which, we’ve just been told that mail order deliveries from the outside into the EU will be congested this summer, because the custom system will be adjusting to the new requirement of making custom declarations for each and every 10€ Chinese buttplug. Last week, I was told by the doctor I need to wear the compression bandage on my leg until I get the custom made compression socks from a manufacturer in Switzerland, which seems like lengthy processes even without mail delays, and assuming I can achieve some reasonable wound healing first.

  9. lumipuna says

    I’ve never seen the Finnish meteorological institute post so many warnings/advisories at once as today. There’s heat warning, and separate advisories for impending thunder, possible torrential rain, moderate wildfire risk and UV radiation.

  10. lumipuna says

    The storm is here -- just starts to rain with huge intensity. I’m home and just closed the windows. Thus far, more rumble from the wind than thunder. Half dark, first flashes.

  11. lumipuna says

    The storm is over, apparently with no major damage. Finally, the weather turns reasonably cool. We had almost 30 C before midday, now it’s below 20 C for the first time in days.

  12. says

    Oh fuck, Charly I’m sorry to hear

    We’ve been having thunderstorms and heavy rain here for the last days. Though I’m glad about the water and it should also have put an end to the severe plague of harvest mites we’ve been having.

  13. Ice Swimmer says

    Charly @ 8

    That sucks. I’m wishing you can find a loophole and the officials are not in the mood to be assholes.

    lumipuna @ 10 -- 12, Giliell @ 13

    The storm started quite dramatically here, huge gusts of wind, dust and water in the air and then thunder and torrential rain. I think the Capital area escaped with very little damage. The rest of the Finland less so, there were/are blackouts in rural areas (at one point 100 000 households without power) and earlier this week a previous storm killed one person in Oulu, when a tree fell on them.

  14. Jazzlet says

    I hope the officals are reasonable, and so sorry starting your busines is proving to be less simple than you hoped

    Sorry to hear about your skin problem. Mr J has a recurrent problem with ulcers or more usually with will-be ulcers-if he’s-not-very-careful, but he’s 62. The compression socks do help and you get used to wearing them, though I don’t think it ever gets pleasant. Do you have a specialist ulcer service? Not to disrespect your doctor in any way, but he has had a lot of useful advice from the specialist nurses who would come and dress his ulcer if he let it get to that stage.

  15. voyager says

    Oh, Charly
    I’m sorry things are not working out as you hoped.
    I’ll hold good thoughts about the bureaucracy and your home shop. Maybe you’ll get someone who’s feeling kindly disposed.

  16. lumipuna says

    Jazzlet -- Ah, ulcer is the word I was looking for. I was looked at by a couple different skin specialists at a public hospital, and they instructed my neighborhood public clinic on how to dress the ulcer -- I have to go there 2-3 times a week for maintenance. They also referred me to see a vascular specialist on August 30.

  17. Jazzlet says

    If Mr J’s experience is anything to go by the people doing the dressing may know more about the day to day practical care of your ulcer than the specialists; the specialists are great at diagnosis, but don’t look after the relatively mild, small kind of ulcer. I know keeping the area well moisturised once it has finally sealed over is vital, and also that the healing can take an awful long time. I hope the vascular specialist will be able to do something so this won’t have to become part of your life!

    There have been a couple of deaths of young trees, one in our garden the other in next-door-but-one’s garden, both conifers. Our neighbour who has lived here longer than us says it’s honey fungus, which would explain the death of the green gage we put in, and the state of the cherry. It’s not awful, there are trees and the walnut we put in at the same time as the green gages and cherry is doing very well, but we’ll have to give anything new we put in a lot of care to have a chance of getting it past the really risky age.

  18. lumipuna says

    My browsers (Chrome and Edge) keep clogging/crashing even after I cleared their memories from junk. Any ideas of what gives?

  19. lumipuna says

    This June’s mean temperature has been officially the warmest ever measured in Helsinki, and much of Finland. The June high temperature record was probably broken early last week in many places, but not quite nationally. Some models predict the relatively warm weather will continue into August.

    Crip Dyke just wrote on how the recent record-breaking heat in western North America has also largely broken the local society’s heat adaptation capacity. I might not experience that kind of truly extreme heatwave in my lifetime (that is extreme by local late July standards; statistically it’d be even more freaky if same locally extreme temperatures actually happened this early in the summer). However, heatwaves like the one we had last week will be increasingly common, and regular hot weather will be increasingly regular in summertime.

    As I approach middle age, I increasingly feel like even mildly hot weather is seriously detrimental to my comfort, productivity and freedom. I find I structure my whole life around staying cool, and keeping my home as cool as possible. It’s not a matter of life and death, but of avoiding discomfort during increasingly extensive periods of time. I increasingly wonder how people living in hot climates (with their traditional cultural adaptation, but traditionally without air conditioning) manage to get anything done in their regular hot weather.

    Recently I’ve started seeing talk on how climate change could make world’s hottest areas truly unlivable for humans, beyond any cultural adaptation capacity (other than using lots of air conditioning). I must presume that, well before that point, the heat should severely restrict human life, happiness and economic productivity.

  20. Oggie: Mathom says

    Hello, all.

    Just some updates.

    As of June 29th, I am retired. That Saturday was my last day as a National Park Ranger. Now I am on the roles of OPM. Of course, I will be remaining on OWCP, but I am retired.

    Which is mindblowing. I am 55 years old and rerired. I spent 30 years as a park ranger — tours, ed groups, bus groups, talks, walks, illustrated programs, programs with props and artifacts, compiling statistics, writing grants, justifying the continuation of grants (hint — the term ‘underserved communities’ is very helpful in that), directing traffic, teaching first aid, CPR and AED, responding to injuries, finding and killing and removing paper wasp nests, graphic manipulation and preparation for publications, exhibits and signs, staffing road blocks at federal incidents (including checking vehicles for bombs at the Javett’s Center after 9/11 and keeping a short battalion of National Guard ‘safe’ after Katrina) and forest fires, managing the security component fires and incidents (one fire at which I was SECM (Security Manager) was 1.2 million acres and I had 31 people with 34 vehicles (it can get weird — a couple of earlier security people kinda forgot to turn in rental trucks)), and basically enjoying a dream job which, after husband and dad, was my life. And now it is over.

    Which feels wrong.

    Oh, well. I shouldn’t complain. Lots of quality time with the 2-year-old twins. Who I have to go help control dinner time.

    Love to all.

  21. Oggie: Mathom says

    And I forgot collecting fees, taking reservations for train rides, telling people where to go (and how to get there), dealing with co-workers etc.

  22. says

    I’m still going to wish you a happy retirement. I know from family members that adjusting can be hard, especially when you really like the job. And I bet the twins are a great distraction.

    Yay, my wound management has been downgraded from bandages to band aid. The wound is healing nicely and the stitches will come out on Monday. What is still giving me trouble is the nerves. The finger is pretty numb and a wrong movement will send up a jolt of pain, but not where the wound is. My GP says that it’s probably pinched in the stitches, which had to be pulled real tight because I nicely severed a larger blood vessel. I can tell you, feeling your hand lie in a nice warm puddle of your own blood is an experience.

    Weather here was cool and rainy, but not the catastrophic rainfall they had in some parts of Germany.

  23. StevoR says

    The power and beauty of the human voice :

    (For so many years I mistook this song for Chinese not Welsh whatever that means and is worth,)


    (17 minutes long. yet low, deep tones & known remembered mythology such power.)


    (The Doctor -- & not the Fremantle one of cricketing fame. Tho’ given th scope of his travels..)

    Fictional all but such emotional power. For me anyhow.

  24. StevoR says

    Then the music that vibrates inside you bones (well mine anyhow) :

    The highlight of my day as a kid once. Seeing this, hearing this.Sad maybe. True.

    Also this surreal old Greek gods in space turned into SF manga / anime :

    Then for something completely different and satirical and true as F :

    Scott NoClue. Also best use of the pause in a while..

  25. says

    @Giliell, if you have severed the nerve, all is not lost but it will take years to recover. I really do hope the nerve is just constrained by the stitches and that you will get better really soon. If the knife was really sharp, the wound will heal better.
    The tip of my left middle finger that I have injured with a hatchet over two years ago (how the time flies) is slowly starting to feel normal again, but still is not fully recovered.

  26. lumipuna says

    IDK if this is a severed nerve issue, but I have a numb spot on the inside of my thigh, presumably from the hernia surgery I had 10 years ago. It took me a year or two to even notice it, so it’s not really a problem. However, the support net thingy they installed in my groin has since unraveled, and I feel somewhat frustrated about the prospect of getting another operation.

  27. Ice Swimmer says

    Oggie @ 23-24

    Happy Retirement, Oggie!

    Giliell @ 25

    Hoping for the best with your finger and nerve.

    lumipuna @ 31

    Could the orifice through which “tyrä rytkyi” have become tighter or less elastic, or will it be necessary to get a new support net?

  28. StevoR says

    Interesting article here :

    Via Slate and also another good Slate unterview one just seen here :

    Also, in totally unrelated news, our daytime star has flared up again :

    Which may be good news for any aurora-seekers here..

  29. lumipuna says

    Ice Swimmer:

    will it be necessary to get a new support net?

    Probably, though I haven’t consulted a doctor on it. In any case, it seems a second surgery would be more complicated than the first one. My hernia is basically only a mild inconvenience, and a cosmetic issue (though no one sees me naked anyway).

  30. Hekuni Cat, Social Justice Ninja, MQG says

    Giliel -- I got the package. They are beautiful!

  31. says

    @Hekuni Cat
    I’m glad to hear! Sorry it took me so long.

    Well, the stitches are out. The outer side is back to normal again, the inner side is still numb. But I can wash my hands again. At least I noticed how much into the habit of washing my hands I’ve gotten.

  32. Jazzlet says

    Yay for stiches out and being able to wash your hands (and everywhere else that hand would have washed) again. Nerves do grow back, I think how fast may to an extent depend on how important the feeling in the area is, so longer for places like lumipuna’s inner thigh, and the half moon area (pelvic bone straight across to pelvic bone curving upwards to tummy button) above my hysterectomy scar which took maybe ten years, but shorter for thing like fingers. I hope so, I have an operation on Friday to remove the strange hard lump from my left ring finger, the lump itself has interferred with my nerves so the feeling above is as if I was wearing a glove. I don’t think I’ll have any feeling there after, they’re doing a skin graft over the area as the lump removal will apparently leave too large a hole. The lump is only 15 mm by 8 mm at it’s longest and widest, I’ve had holes that large heal perfectly well (ok with some scarring) but they weren’t across a finger joint. Anyway I hope your healing continures to go well and that you have full sensation back jolly soon!
    Incidentally what do you look for in dried petals for your resin work?

    Congratulations, I hope you find enjoyable things to occupy your time when you are not helping with the twins.

    That is frustrating, I hope if you do need further surgery it fixes the hernia for good.

    The weather here has been deeply frustrating, June was so dry I’m not sure we will get any garlic at all despite watering it, the onions are a little better but I don’t think it will be a good crop. Who knows about the poatoes, except now that it has rained every day for over a week, and heavily on many of those days I’m sure some of the potatoes will be split. I suspect everything will be somewhat delayed.

    I have been able to see my SiL and a friend which was fantastic, but I’m not/wasn’t allowed to see anyone from Monday when I had a PCR test to after my little operation on Friday -- they really don’t want patients bringing in COVID, quite understandably.

  33. lumipuna says

    It’s midnight here, and temperature at my nearest weather station just dropped below 25 C -- the Finnish meteorological threshold for a “hot summer day”. This might become the warmest night ever recorded in Helsinki. We’ll likely break the record for the number of hot summer days this year, too.

  34. lumipuna says

    The overnight minimum was 21.9 at my station, 22.4 in city center. Probably not a local record, but very close. IIRC the highest overnight temperature recorded in Finland was about 25 C, somewhere in south coast islands.

  35. Ice Swimmer says

    lumipuna @ 41

    Have you been able to sleep well in this heat? I’ve found that taking a shower and going to bed while one’s wet makes it easier to fall asleep or continue sleeping if you wake up. The skin dries fairly quickly but the hair and the beard are wet for much longer, helping to keep cool for a while.

  36. lumipuna says

    My sleep schedule is extremely broken. Thankfully, I don’t need to leave my home much, especially during daytime. Today, I took a nice walk at 4 AM.

  37. says

    I mostly look for nice structure and the ability to keep its colour.

    Aaaaand just when I got my finger mostly healed, my spinal prolapse is back with a vengeance. Went to the ER yesterday and they were very much not very helpful. I was advised to take more of the pain meds I’m already taking. I think I got pegged as “drug seeking” and not given anything more effective. Dude, I’m a public school teacher. If I want drugs, I ask my students…

  38. Jazzlet says

    Oh no, it is so frustrating that women’s reports of pain aren’t taken seriously by far too many doctors. I hope you manage to get some relief from the pain killers you do have.

  39. says

    I mean, do they even listen? So I went to my GP today, who looked at the letter from the hospital and said “so you have back pain?” and I was like “no, I most emphatically don’t have back pain. I have a spinal prolapse which manifests in an inflamed nerve down my leg”
    “So I can push here and here and here” and yes, you can push there until I bruise. Just don’t make me sit or stand for longer…
    But it is a lot better already, thankfully not as bad as the last time, when I spent a week in hospital.

  40. Jazzlet says

    Glad the spinal prolapse doesn’t seem to be as bad this time.

    Honestly it amazes me on occasion how people don’t read what is in front of them especially when they should know about it. When I was given my discharge letter on Friday, after the operation on my finger, there was a handwritten note on the top -- OPDA IJM clinic [time and date] -- I asked where this appointment was still being a bit whoozy and the nurse assured me it was at my GP’s practice. It wasn’t until I got the ‘letter’ link on my phone that I realised it meant Out Patients Department A [consultant’s] clinic, but that really ought to have been obvious to the nurse or if not she should have asked instead of giving me the wrong information. Grrr.

    And I’m beginning to think I should give up on touch typing, I’ve only got the use of my left index finger, but that and all my right hand seem to type better than all both hands.

  41. Ice Swimmer says

    Giliell @ 46

    Ouch, but good that it’s subsiding. The society can be so fucked up about pain meds. Too stingy for some people while others get them without much asking.

  42. says

    Heya, just in case anybody saw the images of the severe floodings in parts of Germany, I’m fine, my area lots of rain, but nothing as severe. A colleague’s village got flooded, but she’s fine, too. I hope Avalus and his family are OK, they’re in the same general region.

  43. lumipuna says

    I just saw the news of flooding in western Europe. Scary.

    The jet stream has been bent out of shape for weeks, with a persistent heat dome (or whatever) stuck in northeastern Europe and corresponding rain front in the west. Today we had 31.7 C, and tomorrow will be about equally hot. However, there’s a dawning promise of seasonally normal temperatures next week. Still no rain, though.

  44. Jazzlet says

    Thank you, (it was last week) the operation went well, the dressing was changed yesterday so I got to see the wound which is looking good. I got finger exercises which for some reason make me laugh.

    We’ve got sun, but I’ve been thinking about you and hoping all of you are safe, and stay safe, the power of water is terrifying. That so many lives have been lost in a developed country like Germany gives us an awful foretaste of what we all have to fear.

  45. Ice Swimmer says

    Jazzlet @ 52

    I’m glad the operation went well. Finger exercises do sound like they fit in the same category as “trigger finger massageur” (in one of the popular sketch comedies here, a long time ago, there was this gangster sketch in which a purported high-level gangster had a trigger finger massageur, a thing which struck fear in lesser crooks.) But yeah, I can see that the execises are useful.

  46. StevoR says

    Not sure if I’ve mentioned this event here already but tomorrow, well, technically today now, marks 8 years of ongoing indefinite wrongful imprisonment and torture for refugees who came by boat seeking asylum in Australia but have been locked up in offshore jails ever since. To commemorate and protest this there’s a Refugee Rally on in Adelaide starting 2 pm from Tarntanyangga / Victoria Square. Details :


    Event by Adelaide vigil for Manus and Nauru
    Tarntanyangga / Victoria Square Adelaide
    Duration: 1 hr 30 min
    Public · Anyone on or off Facebook

    ** Indefinite Detention Is Torture – 8 Years of Harm **

    8 long and destructive years will soon have passed, since when on 19th July 2013, Kevin Rudd announced that all asylum seekers coming by boat would be sent offshore, and never be settled in Australia. Over 3500 were subsequently taken offshore by force. Many of these people continue to this day to be detained, without charge, indefinitely. Quite possibly to the end of their earthly life. For 13 that has been the case, with death in detention by medical neglect, suicide, and murder. The Australian parliament (LNP with Labor support) has recently changed our laws to allow indefinite detention, without any charge, to continue. It is a law that does not apply to ‘us’, but to ‘them’. Over 1000 are still waiting for settlement – enduring and despairing. About 230 remain offshore in harsh conditions, in Port Moresby and Nauru; 70 in oppressive locked detention in Australia, 500 in community detention, and 500 on a 6 month ‘departure visa’ with nowhere to go.

    The Royal Australasian College of Physicians states:

    “Australian held (locked) detention is harmful to the physical and mental health of people of all ages in the short and long term.” *

    We have seen the expected harm unfold year by year.

    Indefinite detention without charge or trial should be anathema to anyone who has any concern for others as fellow human beings. In Adelaide on Sunday July 18th, we will remember and stand with those still suffering ongoing indefinite detention – 8 Years and still increasing. We will meet 2pm at Tarntanyangga / Victoria Square, and walk to the Vietnamese Boat People Monument (next to the River at the end of Kintore Ave), with speakers telling of the unjustifiable harm being done. Will you join us in opposing the appalling harm of indefinite detention and calling for a home for these vulnerable and suffering people?

    Source : Yes face book, sorry folks but still :

    Plus for the Physicians statement :

    There’s also been this song created by Anthea Falkenberg for the occassion :

    8 Years Of Trauma; 20 Years Of Shame

    They came across the waters,
    They came from far and wide;
    They trusted Australia
    Simply to be kind.

    8 years of trauma,
    20 years of shame.
    Uncage Australia’s heart.
    People all need the same:
    Freedom! Safety! Future!

    Each person seeking safety
    Is just like you and me
    But born in a place and time
    That threatened their safety.


    Imprisoned on offshore islands,
    Rejected from our land,
    These women, men and children
    Suffered pain no-one could stand.


    Some have been settled safely
    But a thousand still need hope.
    Please take the time to feel
    How you would in the same boat.

    8 years of trauma,
    20 years of shame.
    Uncage Australia’s heart.
    People all need the same:
    Freedom! Safety! Future!
    Freedom! Safety! Future!

    Source :

    I know a few others from Adelaide do read this blog so, if folks can, please come along and help us.

  47. says

    Yay, my contract got renewed, so now I get another year of mortgage paid. I didn’t realise how tense I was until I got it in the mail this morning and started crying with relief.

  48. lumipuna says

    Giliell -- Congrats!

    In personal news, my ulcer seems to be healing, albeit very slowly, like Voyager hinted.

    The weather has turned reasonably cool, with actually very low humidity. Next week will be again hot, though perhaps not super hot. Vegetation is really dry, and there likely won’t be much rain until the summer is gone.

  49. says

    I hope the healing continues.

    Rant incoming
    Sigh. I love Mr, and we hardly ever fight, which makes fighting even worse, but some days there’s really no alternative.
    We’ve been having problems with the pool this year. Too cold to go swimming, but very humid weather, made algae grow like mad. So he bought a biocid, but it was too late and we decided to replace the water. Only… I’d trusted him to have checked beforehand, but it turns out that when you add that stuff you can no longer just let the water soak into the ground (though I’m also blaming labelling, which should be required to say “once you put this into your pool, you must not let the water soak into the ground”). And living next to a water reserve, I take such things very serious.
    And thus started a fight in which I said “I showed you five articles now, one from the environmental organisation you’re a member of, that say you must not do this!” and him repeating that he had thought that since the stuff was heavily diluted and had already failed to kill all the algae, it was ok to pour it into the ground.
    Rinse and repeat. He’d started with a faulty premise, without checking, and when reality collided with the faulty premise he decided to keep repeating it.
    In the end we bought a pump to get the water up to the sewers. Which he has now decided is a good thing anyway because with heavy downpours becoming more frequent it’s not a bad idea to have one. WE don’t hold grudges (life’s too short for that), but it does take an emotional toll.

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