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Oct 16 2012

Mikey Weinstein’s “Spirit-filled” Christian USAFA Classmates Threaten Imprecatory Prayers if he Attends 35th Reunion

Next week, Mikey Weinstein, the founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), will be attending the 35th reunion of his class at the Air Force Academy. Apparently, some of his “Spirit-filled born again Christian” classmates have a problem with this, threatening imprecatory prayers to put the Psalm 109 whammy on him if he shows up.

Here’s the email Mikey got from one of his “Spirit-filled born again Christian” classmates the other day. (I’ve inserted asterisks with explanations below for a few things this guy refers to in his “Spirit-filled” email.)

 

From: [email protected]
Subject: Fear Christ-Michael Weinstein
Date: October 14, 2012 7:38:44 PM MDT
To: ——[email protected]

Good evening Michael Weinstein. I am a classmate of yours from the USAF Academy Class of 1977. I have written to you before. I am a Spirit-filled born again Christian. My wife is a spirit-filled born again Christian and my children are as well. I came to the Lord during my years as a cadet at the Academy. A number of your classmates have asked me to convey a simple message to you. It is a two part message. First, we ask you to reconsider coming to our 35th reunion next week.  Yes, we found out you are coming. And second we ask you to believe in and fear the Power of Prayer if you refuse to reconsider.

I didn’t know you well at the Academy but well enough to see the darkness of spirit within you. You hate the followers of the Lord. You elevate Christ’s enemies over our Savior. Gays and Muslims and atheists are the object of your love. I even recall your love of the perverted Muslims back then. You dressed up as a cadet as a Muslim. You wore the attire of Yasser Arafat and gave a fiery speech as this same terrorist.* Supporting his terror against those who follow Jesus. Don’t try to deny this Michael Weinstein. You thought we would forget that? I watched that speech in the lectinar in Fairchild Hall. I and others remember feeling your powerful spirit of evil that very day. You have only gotten stronger in your walk with satan as the years have past. Haven’t you.

A number of your classmates, myself included, have had enough of you. We thought you weren’t coming to any more reunions. But then we watched your website and saw you’re giving another one of your Christian hate speeches at UCCS the first night of the reunion.** So you’ll be in town? Clever of you to make sure your name doesn’t appear on the AOG registry for the reunion. Our friends of friends there have confirmed that you intend to be there anyway.

Your darkness and evil is unwanted. You shame our class and our alma mater. You shame the Christian heritage of America, You have the hell-spirit of the devil within you and I have seen and felt it. Eye witness, personally. You use your evil powers to pull the wool over the eyes of the innocents. Just as scripture warned and foretold (2 Corinthians 11:14-15, John 8:44, James 4:7).

No longer Michael Weinstein. Your time has past. You are helpless to the Power of Prayer (Matthew 21:22, Mark 11:24, Mark 9:29).

On behalf of our classmates, I ask and beg you to publicly announce that you are withdrawing from the speech at UCCS. And that you and your wife Bonny will not be attending our Class of 1977 Academy reunion. We will give you until this Wednesday night to do this. If you refuse to do it then we will pray the Psalm 109. We will pray at home and at church. Our families will pray it together. We will pray to the Lord to stop your poison. We will pray the Psalm against you and your wife and all those who give you sanctuary and protection in Colorado Springs.

Let me be clear. None of us will harm you or your wife. That would be illegal and wrong. It is not our place to mete out the justice and punishment you and your followers deserve and have earned. We won’t have to. The Lord will. It is our God-given right to pray for His intervention and protection from your evil. Even under the Constitution you worship as an idol in place of the Son of God.

Reconsider and know the Power of Prayer. Fear the Power of Christ, Michael Weinstein (1 Peter 1: 17-21).

 

*For a persuasive speech assignment in a political science class at the Academy, Mikey played the role of an Arab diplomat. At the time, Yasser Arafat was demanding a right to address the U.N. General Assembly. Mikey’s speech, delivered in the costume of an Arab diplomat, was an argument against allowing Arafat to address the U.N. Not only did Mikey get an A+ on the assignment, but his professor had him present his speech again before another group of students.

**While in Colorado Springs for his class reunion, Mikey will be speaking at an event hosted by the Secular Student Alliance at the University of Colorado.

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  1. 1
    busterggi

    Turn the other cheek? Forgive your enemies?

    Only a non-Christian would give that kind of advice.

  2. 2
    Argle Bargle

    Even under the Constitution you worship as an idol in place of the Son of God.

    Supposedly the writer swore an oath to “support, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” I took a similar oath when I was in the U.S. military. I also remember the oath didn’t have a single mention of Jesus.

  3. 3
    richardelguru

    The bugger can’t even spell: it’s supposed to be written “Spite-filled”!

  4. 4
    Michael Heath

    Do e-meters capture the presence and intensity of the spirit in spirit-filled people?

  5. 5
    SC (Salty Current), OM

    Let me be clear. None of us will harm you or your wife.

    This last sentence seems inconsistent with the paragraph preceding it – gratuitously mentioning his wife by name, giving an ultimatum, and referring to “sanctuary” and “protection” – and with the, er, spirit of the letter as a whole, which is quite menacing.

  6. 6
    cag

    Michael Heath #4, I believe it is called a breathalyzer.

  7. 7
    iknklast

    Ooohhh, I’ll bet he’s shaking in his boots! They’re gonna pray against him.

    Is this the same imprecatory prayer that’s been being lifted against Barry Lynn for several years now? Yeah, I’d be worried too – after all, last time I saw Barry Lynn, he looked a couple of years older than when the prayer started against him a couple of years before, so it must be having some effect.

    Keep praying, folks. You can’t do much harm on your knees.

  8. 8
    Alverant

    Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like harassment?

  9. 9
    jhendrix

    Assuming none of these assholes will actually act out on a threat, I do so enjoy the notion that they’re willing to make their own beliefs falsifiable.

    Let them pray, may the ceilings of their homes and churches hear their request. And when Mikey shows up to his speech and the reunion without issue, it’ll be fun to reply to ask if they prayed or not and note how well it worked out for them.

  10. 10
    Greg

    “And you will know they are Christians by their love, by their love…”

    Isn’t Mikey Jewish? Who was that other famous Jew? He was around a few thousand years ago, Galilee, wandered around telling it would be great to be nice to everyone…

  11. 11
    baal

    Not withstanding the disclaimer toward the bottom, I find the letter quite threatening. A message of “we don’t want you here” is pretty damn offensive. Also, bad xtian – the letter writer failed to use caps for Satan or the Devil.

  12. 12
    Pierce R. Butler

    I am a Spirit-filled born again Christian. My wife is a spirit-filled born again Christian and my children are as well.

    I hope this family has found a designated driver who is sober.

    You wore the attire of Yasser Arafat … Supporting his terror against those who follow Jesus.

    Last I heard, Arafat mostly opposed members of a religion which explicitly does not follow this Jesus guy.

    You shame the Christian heritage of America,

    Don’t they teach punctuation at the USAFA?

    And, 6m6l6w, you left out the obligatory “Judeo-” prefix there. Even Pat Robertson (usually) remembers that one.

    If you refuse to do it then we will pray the Psalm 109.

    Why didn’t they think to threaten Brezhnev with this when they graduated (ahem) 35 years ago? The Cold War could’ve been ended during the Carter administration!

  13. 13
    H-Bomb

    As the organizer of the speaking event in Colorado Springs, even I’m not sure what this guy is going on about. I recognize the threat, obviously, but I just really want to go through and fix his grammar and spelling.

  14. 14
    geocatherder

    I find it amazing that Mikey puts up with this stuff day in and day out. He must have stainless-steel hide, a profound sense of humor, or both. It’s so dispiriting to know so many people out there think like this.

  15. 15
    jaytheostrich

    -1 for grammar, -1 for thinly-veiled threats. +1 for letting “God” take care of it and not deciding to act on it himself/themselves. Hope they stick to prayer and don’t do anything nastier, since we all know the results of prayer, Mr. Weinstein has nothing to fear from that.
    I think it’s hilarious that Christians can say ‘god is love’ and ‘Christ is all about turning the other cheek and forgiveness’ and yet threaten people with the power of Christ in the same breath.

  16. 16
    Ubi Dubium

    They are threatening to pray at him?? This reminds me of the time a guru tried to use magic on live TV in India to kill Sanal Edamaruku. Are these Fundies willing to do this powerful prayer in public? Maybe with some cameras rolling, to document how effective their magic words are at bringing down heavenly smiting? I say let them bring it on! Their side can unleash the power of all those magic words, and Mikey can unleash the powerful defense of doing absolutely nothing in response, and we’ll see who comes out winning.

  17. 17
    Randomfactor

    I love it when these morons quote Psalm 109, which is the lament of a good man and just leader quoting all those shitheads praying for his demise, who trusts that what they ask for him will be visited on them instead.

  18. 18
    Kevin

    Threatening someone with an invisible pillow fight. Hilarious.

    What part of “there is no god to hear your prayers, nor one to act on them” do they not understand?

  19. 19
    Kevin

    It also seems very “Harry Potter” to me.

    Do as I say or I’ll cast a spell.

    Wow. Just. Wow.

  20. 20
    Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    Even though we all know that nothing fails like prayer, just for context I thought it would be useful to point out exactly what they’ll be praying for when they “pray the Psalm 109″:

    [8] Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
    [9] Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
    [10] Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
    [11] Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.
    [12] Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.
    [13] Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

    Delightful people.

  21. 21
    wholething

    I can just hear 6m6l6w telling Mrs. 6m6l6w, “Don’t worry, honey. He won’t be bothering us at the reunion. I wrote him a harshly worded letter and threatened to pray against him. Do you think I went too far? I hope he doesn’t get mad at me.”

  22. 22
    Gvlgeologist, FCD

    I was just thinking bad thoughts, what if something DID happen, coincidentally? Would they feel guilt? Satisfaction?

  23. 23
    ah58

    Presumably, they assume these prayers work. If so, how is that consistent with “None of us will harm you or your wife”? They are performing an action that they believe will cause harm.

    Either they’re admitting that they know it doesn’t really work or they think calling on a hitman absolves them of guilt.

  24. 24
    Stevarious, Public Health Problem

    So…. when nothing happens to him, will they admit that prayer doesn’t work?

  25. 25
    Kevin, 友好火猫 (Friendly Fire Cat)

    Shows how much they really care about his wife.

    “We’re gonna pray that God kills you!” Which… would make his wife extremely upset, EMOTIONALLY harming her.

    But fuck emotions, who has them.

    Criminy, these people are monstrous.

  26. 26
    Cliff Hendroval

    I’d love for Mikey to find out who this sad little clown is and challenge him to any sort of duel, from prayers vs. fists to blunt axes in a dark cellar. I wonder if the worm would even show up.

  27. 27
    left0ver1under

    richardelguru (#3) says:

    The bugger can’t even spell: it’s supposed to be written “Spite-filled”!

    Actually, it is “spirit flled”.

    They’re drunk on religion and power. And like any addict, they resist any attempt to stop their addictions.

  28. 28
    grepo

    Typical ignorant Christian bullshit. Don’t they know the “terrorist” muslim Arafat was actually a Christian?

  29. 29
    Erp

    Actually Arafat was Muslim; his wife was Christian as are quite a few Palestinians (though the percentage is declining).

  30. 30
    grepo

    well I guess I am the ignorant one! Thank you Erp for correcting me.

  31. 31
    Red-Green in Blue

    I was just thinking bad thoughts, what if something DID happen, coincidentally? Would they feel guilt? Satisfaction?

    These “Spirit-filled” peeps really haven’t thought it through, have they?

    Suppose that imprecatory prayer worked often enough to build up a body of circumstantial evidence of its effectiveness. Surely the imprecators (if that is the appropriate word) could be prosecuted in the same way as someone who had ordered a contract killing, or at least someone who had knowingly endangered the life of another through their actions?

  32. 32
    richardelguru

    left0ver1under I was merely commenting that it had more of spite than ‘spirit’ (whatever that may mean).

    This is a good time to bring out that old story (again):

    An atheist and a fundie go out duck hunting together (why I can’t say) and the atheist is having a bad day.
    He fires at a duck. Misses. Says “Fuck, missed!”
    This part can be repeated ad libitum until the point at which the fundie screams out “STOP THIS Profanity or I’ll use PSALM 109 on YOU!!!”
    The atheist (who, as you’d expect, is a reasonable guy) apologises and says he won’t do it anymore.
    And he doesn’t.
    End of story…
     
     
    Until a whole herd of duck fly over. He fires. Misses. In spite of himself he says “Oh! Fuck, missed!”

    And the fundie prays.

    And, lo, out of a clear sky a little cloud appears and a bolt of Heavenly Lightning thunders out of the midst of the cloud.
    And zaps the fundy!
    And a VOICE out of the midst of the cloud, like unto the clashing of cymbals and the braying of great strumpets.
    And the VOICE says “Oh! Fuck, missed!”

  33. 33
    immunologist

    It’s refreshing to see this person acknowledge that the MRFF and Mr. Weinstein are, in fact, championing the constitutional protections for religious freedom in the US, while the ” Spirit-filled born again Christians” do not. Also, as a retired military member, I am dismayed that the person who wrote this email to Mr. Weinstein has forgotten his oath, or perhaps never really supported it in the first place.

  34. 34
    F [is for failure to emerge]

    Oh yes, dude is completely full of Spirit.

  35. 35
    hexidecima

    ah, feel that Christian love. Psalm 109 is the whiniest bit of a whiny book. Poor impotent little man that can’t even seem to be able to identify himself. Golly, he has so much faith in his god that he must remain anonymous. And ah, he even lies just like a good little Christian bearing false witness all over the place. It’s so cute to see such a pitful man beg, cajole, ask, and of course, threaten others for his religion and to get his own way. What a wannabe bully.

    Pray away, dear little Christian. You can even pray for me too! Surely good ol’ God knows who hexidecima really is? And when it turns out you’ve failed and Mikey is fine, his children (if he has any) aren’t beggars, that he has his property, etc? What will the excuses be then? What lies will you tell yourself, and your children when nothing happens?

    What a nutless wonder.

  36. 36
    PatrickG

    You are helpless to the Power of Prayer

    He’s right! I can’t stop laughing. I am helpless to do so, at even the mere thought of targeted Prayer. If the Power of Prayer were directed at me, I’d probably expire due to anoxia or a ruptured spleen.

  37. 37
    sc_179e0292fa077e16a32f6cf994e62895

    For what it’s worth, I sent this to the writer of that letter, using the email address displayed above. Don’t know if it reached him or not:–

    Is this the spirit-filled Born-Again Christian who sent that email to Mikey Weinstein asking him to bow out of the USAFA class reunion? Who, if he did not recuse himself, would pray God to rain ruin or death down upon him? Well, listen up, you self-righteous sack of shit. I invite you to pray yourself blue in the ass for the same to me. In case youwere wondering, I served this country too–as a lieutenant of Marines, 69-73. I was an unbeliever then and I am an even more confirmed unbeliever now. You pious jackasses are an embarrassment to the human mind and spirit, and to the United States of America. Never mind your heartfelt wishes for my salvation. I found it the last day I walked out of one of your bloody churches knowing I would never go back.

    Semper Fi

  38. 38
    AJS

    If you refuse to do it then we will pray the Psalm 109. ….. [stuff deleted] ….. None of us will harm you or your wife.

    So are they admitting that prayer is useless, then?

  39. 39
    matiibn

    Dear American friends,

    It occurs to me that that the freak that sent this to MW and his friends may be the very people that sit in missile silos and aircraft cockpits with their fingers on THE BUTTON. Please do something about this for all our sakes.

    Thank you.

  40. 40
    RFW

    “Spirit-filled”? More like shit filled.

    And, yes, yes, yes, as JHendrix suggested in reply #9, I hope Mike Weinstein marches up to the imprecatory prayer at the reunion and asks in a loud voice that carries, “how’s that imprecatory prayer business going, Mac? Any results yet?”

    Let’s face it: xters are a laughing stock and the more often and more loudly they are laughed at, the less influence they will wield.

  41. 41
    Myoo

    I and others remember feeling your powerful spirit of evil that very day.

    You use your evil powers to pull the wool over the eyes of the innocents.

    Apparently Mikey Weinstein is Mumm-Ra.

  42. 42
    Hank_Says

    “None of us will harm you – but we’re gonna ask Gawd to do it! Because we’re gutless, spiteful, frightened little wankers!”

    Nice Christian brotherly love there, O Spirit-filled Christian.

    I’m sure Mikey is quaking in his feet-filled boots. I hope he rolls up in all black wearing a Bloodbath t-shirt (great band).

  43. 43
    revjimbob

    “I’ll put a jihad on you.”

  44. 44
    Olav

    Richarddelguru, #32:

    clashing of cymbals and the braying of great strumpets.

    Now I’m wondering if I’m not missing something in my life because I don’t know that the braying of great strumpets sounds like…

    It must sound horny!

    Matiibn, #39:

    Dear American friends,

    It occurs to me that that the freak that sent this to MW and his friends may be the very people that sit in missile silos and aircraft cockpits with their fingers on THE BUTTON. Please do something about this for all our sakes.

    Thank you.

    Quoted for Truth. People like that scare me to death. Spirit filled monsters, they are.

  45. 45
    pipenta

    Oh yeah, Jesus is love alright.

    I guess, if you worship a zombie and pray to a statue of a tortured corpse, this is what happens.

  46. 46
    bj666

    “If you refuse to do it then we will pray the Psalm 109″

    Reminds me of the Monty Python “Spanish Inquisition” sketch:

    Inquisitor General and supporting Cardinals are interrogating an elderly housewife, trying to make her confess her crimes. She claims repeatedly that she doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

    Inquisitor General: “Very well! Cardinal – POKE her with the SOFT CUSHIONS!!!”

  47. 47
    LykeX

    love it when these morons quote Psalm 109, which is the lament of a good man and just leader quoting all those shitheads praying for his demise, who trusts that what they ask for him will be visited on them instead

    Indeed. If I may quote; Psalm 109:17
    “He loved to pronounce a curse—may it come back on him.”

    If only such things really worked.

  48. 48
    supportbryan

    I’m a Spirit Filled born again Christian and a full-time missionary…. Here’s what the Bible says…

    “bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.” (Luke 6:28 NKJV)

    “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you”, (Matthew 5:44 NKJV)

    “And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?” But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them. ” And they went to another village.” (Luke 9:54-56 NKJV)

    Prayer does change situations and we are to pray for blessings and not curses for those we don’t agree with. When praying for leaders, we are to pray that they make Godly decisions.

  49. 49
    LykeX

    @supportbryan

    Very nice, but I’m left with a question: Why are you telling us this? Shouldn’t you be pointing this out to other Christians?

    First, this blog network is dominated by atheists who likely don’t give a crap what the bible says. Second, this post describes a clear case of Christians who are ignoring what the bible says.
    I encourage you to stop preaching to us and instead go and preach to your fellow believers. They need to hear you much more than us and they’re much more likely to listen to this kind of scriptural argument.

  50. 50
    supportbryan

    @LykeX

    I do point that out to Christians actually. I recognize that most of the people here probably don’t really care what the Bible says, I just wanted them to know that that letter doesn’t represent us…

    Im not trying to preach, just I’m trying to be a good representation of what a Christian actually looks like. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

    Blessings

    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.” Matthew 7:15-18

  51. 51
    falstaff

    Now I remember why I left the Corps in ’91.

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