When I got the asst prof jobbe offer I wanted, I called my close friend–who is now a Hughes investigator and full prof at Rockefeller–and told him about it. He was all like “Have you started writing your R01?” And I was all like “What the fucke are you talking about? I’m fucken drinking!” And he was all like “Get writing, motherfucker.”
So I submit the fucker before I even arrive at my asst prof jobbe. And it gets triaged. But it was *definitely* the right thing to have submitted then, and led to me getting my first R01 earlier than otherwise, even though I never even resubmitted the fucker.
This is for a number of reasons:
(1) Practice writing a grant.
(2) Feedback from the subfield study section on what they expect in a legit R01.
(3) Subfield study section knows I’m now a player.
3 comments
Genomic Repairman
February 15, 2012 at 8:04 pm (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Was your second R01 submission scored, and how many submissions did it take before you hit pay dirt? If you don’t mind answering.
Chebag
February 15, 2012 at 10:55 pm (UTC -7) Link to this comment
“player”? ….everything that’s wrong with science all wrapped up in one little word.
anon
February 16, 2012 at 9:38 am (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I found that applying right out of the starting gate in a new tt position ended up being a fuckin waste of time. It’s possible you applied right before NIH support for new faculty took a cliff dive, when things really started to tighten up, and you were able to be admitted to the club. It’s not like that anymore. If I had to do that again, I’d tell the sr faculty to fuck off and let me get sufficient data to submit a meaningful grant application. It is especially important now, since we are only allowed two submissions. The belief that study sections give jr faculty a break with respect to preliminary data in a grant proposal is bullshit. Even if we are competing against other ESI’s or new investigators (as opposed to established club members), those who have a body of data to support their proposal are more likely to come out ahead.