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Feb 10 2010

Ponderable

Do delusional right-wing fuck-ups like this cockbag calling himeslf “Vegofish” have the faintest fucking clue what they are talking about when they regurgitate the “Statist” claim they hear emanating from their sick-fuck right-wing propaganda outlets?

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  1. 1
    Rev Matt

    No. Damn that was easy.

  2. 2
    History Punk

    Fuck Nope. Otherwise they’d oppose things like most drug prohibitions, bans on gay marriage, and regulation of abortion on the group it boost state power and involvement in people’s lives. Right-wingers merely dislike state involvement that makes them behave or act in ways that might be contra to their interests, real or imagined.

  3. 3
    smmo

    No. It is really amazing how aggrieved they are about everything, no matter how much power and influence they amass for themselves. His whole post reads as if Reagan/Bush/Bush, No Child Left Behind and 40 years of deregulation never happened.

  4. 4
    The Barefoot Bum

    Dunno. Poe’s Law?

  5. 5
    Spiny Norman

    The fucking hilarious thing is that this farthorn is all lofty analogy, without one (here it comes… get ready…) real world example of what he thinks “leftists” have actually done wrong.

    It’s like an incompetent translation of a bad parody of an especially bad marxist tract. (And no, that’s not a compliment.)

  6. 6
    The Barefoot Bum

    especially bad marxist tract

    I know I’m a communist and all, but isn’t that kind of a redundancy?

  7. 7
    Katharine

    It’s a conservative. They have childlike senses of right and wrong. Why are you surprised?

  8. 8
    Comrade PhysioProf

    Where the fuck do you get the absurd idea that I am “surprised”? Comrade PhysioProf has been mocking the shit out of delusional right-wing fuck-ups since the inception of this blog.

  9. 9
    Isabel

    History Punk,

    Not even Drugmonkey has the courage to oppose the most flagrantly unfair drug prohibitions. Is he a delusional right-wing fuck-up? If not WTH is his problem?

  10. 10
    The Barefoot Bum

    Not even Drugmonkey has the courage to oppose the most flagrantly unfair drug prohibitions. Is he a delusional right-wing fuck-up? If not WTH is his problem?

    It’s very hard on us, Isabel, when you refer to conversations on other blogs and other threads as if all the rest of us read and remember exactly the same thing that you yourself do not. Looking at the OP, it appears as if we’re talking about vegofish, not drugmonkey.

    Furthermore, you still have not corrected your egregious and near-total failure to comprehend simple logic. You can speak and write in complete grammatically correct sentences with proper spelling, so we know you have the capacity to think logically; your failure is one of preference or will: you choose not to think logically, or you are simply too lazy to bother to learn it.

    And yes, vegofish does appear to be a jackass, but lacking Isabel’s commitment and dedication to lunacy and logical surrealism, I’m still considering Poe’s Law a plausible alternative.

  11. 11
    The Barefoot Bum

    Sorry…. jackass-American.

  12. 12
    Isabel

    Shut up you lying hypocrite. You spoiled, entitled, bigot. Who cares about your twisted logic? Drugmonkey is CPP’s co-blogger, and presumably not a delusional right-wing fuck-up. Yet he continually casts aspersions on those who would like to end cannabis prohibition, and he promotes the NIDA, which merely pumps out government propaganda.

    I’m sure History Punk (who I was addressing) knows what I’m talking about. So, get with the program or get lost!

    ps. Surely Daisy was out of line on the other thread with her gulag remark, but many of us did note how you jumped in to defend Katherine’s repeatedly stated desire to “line up and shoot” all the stupid people.

  13. 13
    drugmonkey

    You might want to ask me about my position in the 2nd Amendment before you so confidently conclude I am not a “delusional right-wing fuckup” Isabel.

    How do I ‘promote’ NIDA, btw?

  14. 14
    Isabel

    Actually I may be a bit off topic. :) But many right wing fuck ups speak out against the drug laws even though they are actually in bed with the law and order folks, and all libertarian assholes are in fact against the drug war etc.

    But you are right, in my zeal to blab away and my frustration with the false promises of the “enlightened” side, I did miss the emphasis on statism in the OP. Thank you for correcting me. (see how easy that was) But I do disagree with HP that it is right wing fuck ups who are supporting the drug war, or that they don’t oppose it, often openly. I suspect most do, and I actually know many who do.

  15. 15
    Isabel

    “How do I ‘promote’ NIDA, btw?”

    By linking to their site, and promoting the supposedly sparkly new version of the teen site a while back, for example.

  16. 16
    Isis the Scientist

    Oh, this is going to get hilarious.

  17. 17
    DrugMonkey

    So by Isabellian deduction I also ‘promote’ MAPS and druglawblog. Right?

  18. 18
    Isabel

    “I also ‘promote’ MAPS and druglawblog”

    If you are posting enthusiastically about their latest products, sure.

  19. 19
    The Barefoot Bum

    A quick Isabel to English lexicon:

    Isabel: Shut up
    English: How dare you interfere with my right to speak?

    Isabel: hypocrite
    English: Does not care about the same things as Isabel

    Isabel: spoiled, entitled, bigot
    English: Dares to disagree with Isabel

    Isabel: lying
    English: Dares to disagree with Isabel out loud

    HTH

  20. 20
    The Barefoot Bum

    I did miss the emphasis on statism in the OP.

    Omitting the bolded words above would make your statement more accurate.

  21. 21
    The Barefoot Bum

    Oh, this is going to get hilarious.

    I’ll be here all week! Tip your servers generously!

  22. 22
    Isabel

    I’m not here for your entertainment. These are serious issues we are discussing.

    But now that Is-Ass has crashed the party, it has become rather awkward, because she cannot be trusted.

    I’m not interested in walking on eggshells.

    BB is useless also, as he refuses to open up about his obvious S&M issues.

    Really, the reason I am one of CPP’s “favorites” and in his words “make the internet so awesome” is because I am so open and honest, and I also put a fair amount of effort into being entertaining. You think this is easy?

  23. 23
    Funky Fresh

    Really, the reason I am one of CPP’s “favorites” and in his words “make the internet so awesome” is because I am so open and honest, and I also put a fair amount of effort into being entertaining.

    HA HA HA HA! Yup. This is exactly what it is.

  24. 24
    The Barefoot Bum

    BB is useless also, as he refuses to open up about his obvious S&M issues.

    Isabel! You promised not to tell!

  25. 25
    vegofish

    The truth really gets you nanny state coddled drones riled up doesn’t it? Do you feel it slipping away?
    You should, because it is.

  26. 26
    Isabel

    The truth is slipping away? I can’t follow vegofish’s remarks. So far, this thread is not funny at all.

    You know, Larry, if Katherine’s students were Catholic school grads, they wouldn’t be such fuck-ups in the lab and she wouldn’t want to kill them in the first place.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  27. 27
    The Barefoot Bum

    You know, Larry, if Katherine’s students…

    The whole point of having topics, Isabel, is to focus the discussion around, well, you know, the actual topic.

    I have no idea who Katherine is, I have no idea how her students are like, I have no idea what her students do, and I have no idea how she feels about them. And I’m certainly not going to take your word for it.

    And you know what: I don’t fucking care. If I did care, I would read her blog, which I don’t*. More importantly, if I did care, I would talk about her and her students on her blog, on the posts with topics relating to her students.

    *No offense intended, Katherine: you seem like a nice person. I’m interested mostly in political philosophy and economics, and I don’t even know where your blog is or even that you have one.

    I kind of get it that a bunch of y’all all hang out on a number of different blogs. But everyone else in the group pretty much sticks close to the topic.

    I can’t control what you post, but I can tell you that when you go off topic, especially when you’re speaking directly to me, I have even less of a clue what you’re talking about than normally.

    if Katherine’s students were Catholic school grads, they wouldn’t be such fuck-ups in the lab…

    Regardless of the background, your are pulling facts out of your ass or, more colloquially, transparently bullshitting us.

    I strongly doubt that you have any expertise whatsoever* in educational theory, educational practice, lab work, or professional/academic scientific investigation. You have absolutely no idea what effect a Catholic school education has on the quality of lab work, or anything else.

    *I could have just stopped the sentence right here with no loss of accuracy.

    I also suspect (just on general principles) there’s sufficient variation in how Catholic schools are run that it’s not very interesting to talk about them as a monolithic or uniform entity.

  28. 28
    The Barefoot Bum

    To get back to the topic…

    Do delusional right-wing fuck-ups… have the faintest fucking clue what they are talking about…

    I don’t know about them, but frankly I myself have no fucking clue whatsoever what vegofish is talking about. The nice thing about being vague and never mentioning specifics is you can never be proven wrong. It’s worked for Christianity and other religions for thousands of years.

  29. 29
    vegofish

    You shit for brains need examples of failures in leftist policy? really? California, a particularly thick den of progressive/ statist/ leftist thieves come first to mind. New York is another, through the roof taxes and massive budget shortfalls. Smaller municipalities, particularly ones where the leftist,
    dirt bag protection rackets referred to as labor unions hold power, such as the formerly great manufacturing cities in Michigan and Pennsylvania, in fucking shambles, no work, no opportunity for work. The world’s economies lurching to a halt because of government entitlements and interference in markets. The European union is now having to bail out its most leftist neighbor Greece, much like The United States, has had to do with its most leftist states. Oh and lets not forget the most shining examples of lefty “success” The former Soviet Union and eastern European countries. Wow, those leftist control schemes really worked out good.

  30. 30
    Comrade PhysioProf

    You shit for brains need examples of failures in leftist policy? really? California, a particularly thick den of progressive/ statist/ leftist thieves come first to mind.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, California is totally fucked because of “progressive/statist/leftist thieves”!!!!! Dude, I am gonna be unable to work for the rest of the day, because I will not be able to stop laughing.

  31. 31
    The Barefoot Bum

    vegofish apparently does not understand the difference between assertions and actual examples or arguments. Nor apparently does she or he understand the difference between making assertions that have a plausible chance of being supported by argument or evidence and merely pulling tendentious bullshit directly from one’s rectum.

    “You stupid and your mother dresses you funny,” is an opinion, and everyone’s “entitled” to his or her opinion, however jackassed, but it’s not any kind of argument. We already know that the world is full of jackasses; your commentary adds nothing whatsoever to our knowledge of the world.

  32. 32
    vegofish

    That’s it? Fuck your a pathetic imbecile. I doubt anyone will notice your lack of work for the day, or yesterday or tomorrow, and it is unlikely that it matters as to whether you work at your job or not, as you are undoubtedly blanketed in some form of protectionism that dismisses productivity as an unfair criteria on which to evaluate performance.

  33. 33
    Comrade PhysioProf

    Yeah, you got me. Faculty in medical schools are totally protected from any productivity-based evaluation of their performance.

    AHAHAHAHAHAH! Dude, you are totally cracking me the fuck up!

  34. 34
    The Barefoot Bum

    Faculty in medical schools are totally protected from any productivity-based evaluation of their performance.

    As are computer programmers.

    Look, vegodouche, I don’t come to CPP’s blog to be insulted by jackasses. I go to much classier places to be insulted by people with wit and intelligence.

  35. 35
    vegofish

    I am good, spot on assessment of you. Possibly only the uaw has people more coddled for their uselessness than some second tier academic regurgitating useless and soon after forgotten information to people who could care less. Now that is a job to be proud of.

  36. 36
    The Barefoot Bum

    Indeed? I always thought it was the market, not the opinion of individual jackass-Americans, that established utility and value. See what you get for reading useless and soon after forgotten second tier academic information such as economics textbooks!

  37. 37
    The Barefoot Bum

    … when I could have learned everything I need to know about economics, business administration, moral philosophy, epistemology, metallurgy, railroad operation and sex from reading Atlas Shrugged.

    The stupid! It burns!

  38. 38
    Isabel

    Hey BB Asshole,

    You composed an entire comment to put me down (#17), and then when I reply to you *I* am off-topic?

    Also, you might want to get a checkup, as I mentioned before your memory seems to be failing. I am not referring to obscure conversations on other blogs (when I have done that I said so at the time) I was referencing recent conversations we (that’s you and me) had.

    I already told you I study and teach evolution (once again I recommend a check-up) so it’s strange that you would suggest I know nothing about the subject. I do this at a top university (as CPP knows) where, like Katherine, I am a grad student and TA. Who loves her students, for all their faults (they’re just kids after all) and would never fantasize about lining them up and shooting them.

    It’s funny how you won’t allow commenting on your blog, but come over here to boss CPP’s favorite people around.

  39. 39
    The Barefoot Bum

    You composed an entire comment to put me down (#17)

    I can’t count that high: you’ll need to use links.

    Also, you might want to get a checkup, as I mentioned before your memory seems to be failing.

    For my memory to be failing, it must have been good sometime in the past. My memory has always been poor.

    I already told you I study and teach evolution (once again I recommend a check-up) so it’s strange that you would suggest I know nothing about the subject.

    Not only am I skeptical, I actually do not believe you; I believe you’re lying. If it were true, then I would be shocked that a science department of a “top” university would have let its standards for intellectual integrity and competence fall so grievously low. (If your field were in the humanities, I would be unsurprised.)

    It’s funny how you won’t allow commenting on your blog…

    I do allow commenting on my blog. I just moderate it, and exclude the assholes and jackasses. CPP apparently has different standards here.

    … but come over here to boss CPP’s favorite people around.

    Since I have no actual power over you, I cannot in any way, shape or form “boss” you around. (Words in English have actual meanings, you know.) And if CPP objects to my commentary he need but ask me to stop, a request I would immediately honor.

  40. 40
    Isabel

    “And if CPP objects to my commentary he need but ask me to stop, a request I would immediately honor.”

    As would I. He’s pretty tolerant, even though he can be a real asshole sometimes, and does seem to appreciate my commentary. Even if it is for all the wrong reasons.:)

    And I NEVER lie. Not that I give a shit if you believe me or not. btw I have also been involved in K-12 science outreach programs for many years.

    “Since I have no actual power over you, I cannot in any way, shape or form “boss” you around. ”

    Right. You were just attempting to by inappropriately criticizing my commenting. Hypocritically, as you were doing the same thing.

    “Isabel: Shut up
    English: How dare you interfere with my right to speak?”

    This is (part of) the comment I was referring to. And your interpretation is wacky – how can anyone on a thread interfere with my right to speak except the blog owner?

  41. 41
    The Barefoot Bum

    Not that I give a shit if you believe me or not.

    I don’t give a shit whether or not you give a shit. So there!

    I have also been involved in K-12 science outreach programs for many years.

    God help us all.

    You were just attempting to by inappropriately criticizing my commenting. Hypocritically, as you were doing the same thing.

    Coherent writing, Isabel, is a skill.

  42. 42
    Isabel

    “Coherent writing, Isabel, is a skill.”

    I am an excellent writer. “Breaking the rules” is allowed. Maybe lay off the Jameson in the morning.

    “God help us all.”

    Sorry if you feel my current contributions to a radical new Grades 3-5 science curriculum that incorporates scientific thinking, experimental design, and mechanisms of evolution makes me a menace to society.

  43. 43
    The Barefoot Bum

    I am an excellent writer.

    You’re a legend in your own mind.

    Sorry if you feel my current contributions to a radical new Grades 3-5 science curriculum that incorporates scientific thinking, experimental design, and mechanisms of evolution makes me a menace to society.

    We’re all sorry.

  44. 44
    Isis the Scientist

    I knew this would get hilarious.

  45. 45
    Isabel

    What exactly is so funny Isis?

    “We’re all sorry.”

    Who is “we”? And why are “we” sorry about your feelings? Is this the royal we, or are you just uncomfortable standing out in a crowd? I highly doubt that others agree with you, if that’s what you mean.

    Why do you feel the need to speak for others?

    Why can’t you and Katherine be confident enough to speak for yourselves?

  46. 46
    The Barefoot Bum

    Who is “we”?

    Me and the mouse in my pocket.

  47. 47
    The Barefoot Bum

    We can clearly see the narrative of purity in vegofish’s commentary.

  48. 48
    Isabel

    So you can read the mouse’s mind I guess.

    I enjoyed your review btw. I thought that novel was pretty twisted when I read it years ago.

    I take it back, after a few beers (and a bowl or two) this thread is actually pretty funny.

    I hope CPP is not annoyed, though.

  49. 49
    BikeMonkey

    It takes a seriously uninformed dumbfuck to conclude Cali’s problems are the fault of anything other than the anti-tax numbnuttery. 2/3rds to pass a tax is no way to do business. Survey after survey puts the totally insane fraction at some 20% at least. Birthers and WMDers and HeckuvaJobBushers And such. Not much to work with…

  50. 50
    vegofish

    Only a completely ignorant, nanny state addicted turds for brains fool would consider higher taxes in California or anywhere is the way to do business. In fact with one of the highest business taxes in the country, somewhere around 8 or 9 percent, California doesn’t have to worry about anybody doing much business at all there. Same for its ugly stepsister. New York. Wherever leftists cluster, there is a cluster fuck. When will the left get it in their head that their system fails.
    The productive sector in this country has grown tired of picking up the tab for the failures of the left.

  51. 51
    Batocchio

    Fuck no! Those arguments are basically Limbaugh after a drinking binge.

  52. 52
    The Barefoot Bum

    Isabel:
    So you can read the mouse’s mind I guess.

    Yes.

    I enjoyed your review btw.

    Thanks!

    Batocchio:
    Those arguments…

    What arguments?

    I would say that vegofish has never opened an economics textbook in his life, but the economics academia has become as or perhaps even more reality-free than the humanities academia.

  53. 53
    vegofish

    Then dispute them with something other than “Fuck no”. Otherwise shut up and let the grown-ups
    discuss the matter. I am sure I have read more economic text than you have ever listened to Limbaugh, so again, shut the fuck up when you obviously are fucking clueless

  54. 54
    The Barefoot Bum

    There’s nothing to dispute. Your assertions contain no more content than, “You’re ugly and your mother dresses you funny.”

  55. 55
    The Barefoot Bum

    Let me be straight with you, vego, assuming you’re not just trolling or being a jackass on purpose.

    You apparently have some particular opinion. Good for you. It’s a free country, you can have any opinion you like. Why are you telling us?

    If you just want us to know you have a contemptuous opinion of our economic, political and/or moral character, OK, we figured that out. You will have figured out that we too have a rather negative opinion of your character. If that’s all you wanted to tell us (and learn), you’re done. Mission accomplished! You can retire from the field of battle with honor and pride.

    If, however, you want to accomplish something else, well, the tactic of repeating your negative opinion seems spectacularly ineffective. Do you think any of us will actually change his or her mind because some anonymous commenter with a ridiculous handle tells us twice that we’re stupid? Not gonna happen.

    I’m just trying to help by giving you some feedback.

    If you actually want what you appear to want, i.e. to trade insults with people who strongly disagree with you, you’ve definitely come to the right place. We’re pretty good at it, and our esteemed host appears to take great pleasure in the exchange.

  56. 56
    The Barefoot Bum

    (And I must say, in the spirit of the above post, I’m surprised that vegofish can take his left hand off his dick and surf his browser to sites other than naked pictures of Ayn Rand and Margaret Thatcher long enough to actually post his commentary here.)

  57. 57
    The Barefoot Bum

    Ayn Rand naked.

    HTH

    “Is that a copy of Atlas Shrugged in your pocket, or are you just genetically, economically, and culturally able to be happy to see me?”

  58. 58
    smmo

    California doesn’t have to worry about anybody doing much business at all there. Same for its ugly stepsister. New York. Wherever leftists cluster, there is a cluster fuck. When will the left get it in their head that their system fails.
    The productive sector in this country has grown tired of picking up the tab for the failures of the left.

    Yes, which is why business and finance is centered in Alabama! Oh, wait.

  59. 59
    vegofish

    Long gone necessities of geography sociology and technology are the reason the “centers” of business and finance are located in the geographical areas that they are. Most of those necessities no longer apply, which is why we have seen migration away from those geographical “centers” as technology has allowed. The left fights this migration in an effort to keep power consolidated in these small historical “centers” by continually attacking the sovereignty of the States to regulate their own affairs. A current and topical example is the restriction of the sale of health insurance across state lines, supported by the democrats. As taxes increase on individuals and business in these “centers” more will move away, to do business in places that are more financially attractive, just as much of the countries manufacturing sector has moved on to greener pastures because of burdensome bureaucracies and high taxes. Leftist politicians and corrupt leftist organizations like the seiu have turned the economy from one of innovation and growth, to a stagnant, blowjob economy, where the blowjobs just go around and around but nothing of any value is ever produced. Otherwise useless dumbasses writing technical papers for another otherwise useless dumbass, who writes technical papers, to read. Net value to society: negative a couple hundred grand a year.

  60. 60
    TTabetic

    which is why we have seen migration away from those geographical “centers” as technology has allowed.

    Or maybe it’s all those pesky black people in the city.

    Anyway, you sound like a serious douchecanoe.

  61. 61
    The Barefoot Bum

    Paragraph breaks would be a good start.

    Long gone necessities of geography sociology and technology are the reason the “centers” of business and finance are located in the geographical areas that they are.

    Is this true? Do you expect us to simply take your word for it? Do you have the Spirit of the Lord or something?

    Do you understand that simply declaring statements to be true might earn you points among your fellow True Believers, but it’s hardly persuasive to a skeptic. You’ve already told us what you believe. We want to know why we should change our minds, as we’re not falling all over ourselves to earn your good opinion.

  62. 62
    vegofish

    I would have to know on which basis you disagree with my assertions.
    Nobody here has bothered to state on which basis they disagree.
    Just “fuck no” and “douchecanoe” (which is a good one)and “cockbag”(which is not so good)
    What does surprise me is how shook up this has all of you.
    I think cpp must be a little on edge to dedicate a blog heading to my commentary.
    I hope it is because he can’t get any grant money
    I am not really here to change your mind.
    More of a somewhat morbid curiosity as to how someone could so aggressively beat on their dead horse of an ideology.
    Unfortunately to the peril of mankind.

  63. 63
    The Barefoot Bum

    I would have to know on which basis you disagree with my assertions.

    Speaking only for myself, I disagree on the basis that you’re an asshole, a jackass, and you give no indication that you have even the slightest clue you know what you’re talking about.

    What does surprise me is how shook up this has all of you.

    I’m in love, I’m all shook up. Oh yeah! Dude: we’re a group of smart, mean bastards (and Isabel) who like to hang out and mock jackasses. It’s a hobby.

    I am not really here to change your mind.

    That’s good! I hope you’re here to get insulted, because that’s what you’re going to get.

    More of a somewhat morbid curiosity as to how someone could so aggressively beat on their dead horse of an ideology.

    Oh irony! Thy name is vegofish!

    Unfortunately to the peril of mankind.

    We’re not the ones who want to turn off the lights of New York. You’re more than free to take your peril of mankind and shove it up your ass… after first removing Rush Limbaugh’s flaccid little white cock.

  64. 64
    vegofish

    You should try a different hobby, “dude”, your not very good at this one. I haven’t noticed anyone posting, besides perhaps myself, who meets criteria for your little club. Possibly excepting a bit of petty childish meanness. I do enjoy the opportunity to mock jackasses though. Thanks for your willing participation

  65. 65
    The Barefoot Bum

    I’m not commenting here to impress *you*.

    Isn’t there an underage Dominican hooker you should be fucking? Or have you run low on Viagra and Oxycontin?

  66. 66
    vegofish

    None here now, I can run down to the local acorn office and see if I can round some up for you though

  67. 67
    The Barefoot Bum

    I can round some up for you though…

    You have enough to spare a few, eh?

  68. 68
    vegofish

    The quote was actually “and see if I can…..
    alas, the local office of community organizers had been closed down

  69. 69
    The Barefoot Bum

    I know: I can read. It was funnier my way.

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