Pete Rose


I see no reason why Pete Rose should not be allowed into the Baseball Hall of Fame. What Rose did is far less bad for the game of baseball than what dopers have been doing for decades. Yeah, Rose is an obnoxious dickhead, instead of a falsely contrite greedy PR-flack-managed pantywaist.

So what? Selig should lift his lifetime ban.

Comments

  1. SLC says

    I am afraid that I can’t agree with Dr. PhisoProf on this one. The fact is that Mr. Rose bet on his own team when he was its manager and there is no way we can be sure that he didn’t make managerial decisions based on his wagers. His peculations are no different then the point shaving scandals in college basketball back in the 1950s and nobody is calling for forgiving the players involved in those activities.

    However, if we are going to rehabilitate Pete Rose, how about Shoeless Joe Jackson. There is no evidence that Mr. Jackson did anything to affect the outcome of World Series games in 1919. If Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame, then so does Joe Jackson.

  2. Physiogroupie IV says

    Agree. Didn’t we put Barry Asterisk Bonds in the books? Perhaps we should put Pete Rose in to a Baseball Hall of Infamy.

  3. says

    What Rose did is far less bad for the game of baseball than what dopers have been doing for decades.

    A-fucking-men, brother.

  4. bikelib says

    Oh, fuck no. Don’t let Rose in. Keep the juicers out. None of the fuckers deserve to be in.

  5. bikelib says

    PP, our politics are 100% on the same page. But when it comes to baseball and booze, you just fuckin lose me…

    Love the blog, though

  6. Kate says

    Maybe yes, maybe no. The voters should be allowed to vote on it. But, just wait until he passes away. Then he’s not rewarded, and the hall the fame is complete*.

    *setting aside the issue of the juicers.

  7. says

    Let Pete Rose in? And destroy the only excitement baseball can provide anymore? It is commonly known that on slow news days radio stations can get their phone lines jammed for hours just by opening up the topic of Rose and HOF. Why would MLB destroy all that passion that it can no longer generate via its games? Or its players and their sins, even! People just don’t give a shit about roids the way they still do about Rose, one way or another!
    Besides, letting Rose in would destroy Rose too. The fucker lives for and thrives on a good fight. He gets his jollies by scrapping with MLB, selling his shit outside the HOF every year, playing the poor martyr. It would be funny if he went into the HOF—-it would eliminate his raison d’etre for the past couple of decades and both he and baseball would slink into complete irrelevance in a couple of years’ time.
    On second thought therefore, I agree CPP. Let the asshole into the hall. Let all of the assholes into the hall.

  8. Physiogroupie IV says

    Then again, I kind of feel like Pete Rose should do as the Sex Pistols did and shun the award!

  9. Physiogroupie IV says

    Upon closer inspection, there are apparently voting criteria that go beyond simple baseball stats (which I was not aware of until now). If there are rules which were agreed upon, then I don’t think he should be in the HOF. That’s my final answer!

  10. Sven DiMilo says

    First, nobody who never saw the guy play gets an opinion on this. All those years of 100% hustle, 4250 hits, etc.? Of course he belongs in there. It’s not the Hall of Role Models and Good Examples.

  11. says

    That’s where you are wrong SvenThe Baseball HOF does make a distinction about sportsmanship, unlike the Football HOF, which doesn’t. I only found out about this yesterday myself. Look, if it’s in the rules, why throw them out for one person. Either have them or get rid of them. Everyone agrees Pete Rose is a scumbag, therefore his rating on integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contribution to the game = 0.

    http://web.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers/rules.jsp

    Voting: The Committee shall consider all eligible candidates and voting shall be based upon the individual’s record, ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character and contribution to the game.

  12. says

    Ty Cobb was asshole, and he is in. You put people in based upon what they did on the field. The hall is littered with gamblers, degenerate (=fun) drinkers, and other characters. I think Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson, who was acquitted by the way, should be in the HOF. I don’t think Cooperstown would be considered legitimate without those two in it.

  13. says

    First, nobody who never saw the guy play gets an opinion on this. All those years of 100% hustle, 4250 hits, etc.? Of course he belongs in there. It’s not the Hall of Role Models and Good Examples.

    Yet, the one rule that is posted on the way to every single fucking dugout in every single fucking MLB stadium says in essence: Do not fucking gamble.

    Yet, Pete Rose gambled. He knew if he got caught he’d face the consequences. He didn’t give a shit. And neither should we, now that he sealed his own fate.

  14. Theron says

    He’s not banned for being an obnoxious dickhead, PZ. He’s banned for gambling on the fucking game, which has been grounds for a lifetime ban ever since the Black Sox.

    It blows my goddamn mind that people can’t wrap their heads around this. Apparently people would like to go back to a time when baseball were regularly fixed, and the outcome of a World Series was bought. These rules are in place to protect the fucking game, but hey, what the hell, right? Pro wrestling is popular enough.

  15. bikemonkey says

    It’s an easy mistake to make, confusing PP with PZ. Happens all the time. No worries Theron.

  16. Sven DiMilo says

    Apparently people would like to go back to a time when baseball were regularly fixed, and the outcome of a World Series was bought.

    Nnnnooooo…
    Nor do we people even think that gambling by active players is OK. We people just think that the guy deserves to be recognized for his stellar career as a ballplayer and manager despite his mistakes.
    *shrug*

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