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Quit Your Petulant Fucking Bellyaching

I am getting wind of people–including some progressive bloggers–who are just freaking the fuck out with their Obama or Clinton mania. Some of them are going so far as to petulantly stamp their feet and promise to vote for McCain or Nader if “their” candidate doesn’t get the nomination.

Hey, dipshits! You can’t have a successful political party without loyalty, which is defined as party before candidate. This is the entire fucking reason political parties exist, to channel loyalty into political power. That is it. No loyalty means no party means no power. It’s as simple as that.

It is mind-boggling that some Democrats need this shit explained. Like they have just been fucking sleeping, or hitting the bong, for the last thirty years or something.

Comments

  1. says

    What about Nader?

    (kidding!)

    Well, not entirely kidding. I live in a red state, so it really doesn’t matter who I vote for.

  2. says

    I would rather vote for a potted plant than for Clinton. I don’t care about her or Obama – but I can not support anyone who enabled the war.

  3. says

    Well, yeah, Cherish, it kinda does. The press (and the Democratic campaigns, sadly) are portraying this as some kind of epic hero-battle between individual campaigns, and it really isn’t. What it is: an election to decide whether the american people want Democrats or Republicans running this country and choosing the path we’re going to take for the next fifty years, that being the likely amount of time the next supreme court nominee would likely end his/her term.

    Judiciary committee didn’t exactly cover itself with glory on Alito, did it. How come not? Because, to quote one of the members who went on MTP to share with us, “democrats rely too much on procedural maneuvers”

    Got that? The Republicans have pocket vetoed practically everything they’ve tried to do since they lost both houses of congress with the acquiescence of our leadership, but we can’t stop a guy who thinks Brown and Loving were decided wrong and who thinks the government was overreaching in ensuring that minorities could vote because it would be tacky to filibuster (and besides, he went on, the way to control the court is to win elections).

    Given that level of spinelessness on the part of centrist senators, the only way we’re going to get anything done is to not only win but have a commanding popular vote to point to (and as Hugh Hewitt helpfully pointed out, if it isn’t close they can’t cheat).

    It matters.

  4. says

    Judiciary committee didn’t exactly cover itself with glory on Alito, did it.

    Not to mention Michael “Schumer’s Best Friend Forever” Mukasey.

  5. juniorprof says

    Party before candidate my ass!! Country before party! No more spineless democrats and no more Billary politics (and no more Howard Wolfpuke). Who the fuck died and made this a two party country for all eternity… If Billary steals the election by towing in all their old political debts with the superdelegates and continuing to play to the latino community’s fear-of-the-black-man (that’s really what that 3AM commercial was all about) I’m done with the spinelessocrats.

    Better to fight to fix this broken ship the right way than get 4 more years of two family dynasty.

  6. Nan says

    Hitting the bong, Physioprof, and the proof is in the fucking stupidity spewed by juniorprof. I, too, am less than thrilled with Obama and Clinton, but still have enough intact brain cells left to recognize that electing either of them provides some hope of tacking the country back towards sanity. Go ahead, juniorprof, stand by your high-minded principles and sit the election out, and then we’ll know one specific fuckwit to thank when McCain gets sworn in and promptly bombs Iran.

  7. bruisescolours says

    You failed to give credit to those of us who found a really obscure candidate to bolt to should Clinton win.

    But it’s true, you do need a degree of loyalty to party over candidate. If only someone told the candidates that. And there in lies the rub.

  8. says

    juniorprof, no one says you have to be in a party. Parties have costs and benefits, and if you think the costs outweigh the benefits, then I got no truck with you.

    All I’m saying is that it is usless to be in a political party if you aren’t going to be loyal. If you pick and choose when to be loyal, depending upon if you like the candidate chosen by the party you superficially identify with, then you do the party no good. If everyone functions that way, there is no party. Party-identifiers who pick and choose when to support the party’s selected candidate are just exploiting the loyalty of others.

    But it’s true, you do need a degree of loyalty to party over candidate. If only someone told the candidates that.

    I am still hopeful that we will see both candidates exhibit loyalty to the party.

  9. says

    Like they have just been fucking sleeping, or hitting the bong, for the last thirty years or something.

    Isn’t that pretty much a necessary precondition for joining the Democratic party?

    “I don’t belong to an organized political party: I’m a Democrat.” — Will Rogers

  10. says

    Hillary did it again yesterday, putting herself and McCain over Obama with her C-i-C threshold bullshit. Even a couple of weeks ago I would have supported Hillary if she won the nomination; I guess I still will, but it is getting tough man. She’s getting perilously close to crossing the “fucking wackaloon douchehoundery” threshold nowadays, and it is getting more difficult to stay positive regarding her. She better jump back inside the party-loyalty line if she wants some party-loyalty love later on.
    And for those who would rather vote for a potted plant or Nader or abstain, I have an idea….read it and lemme know what you think…
    http://yacketyyakia.blogspot.com/2008/03/just-say-no.html
    And finally, I live in a red state too so I can say this more earnestly…..don’t do something stupid like abstain, go vote against the republicans. To begin mending the colossal damage of the past 8 years, they first need to lose by like 20 million votes. Can we do it? YES WE CAN!! Damn, I’m proud that I found a way to work that in —blood’s spurtin’ out of PP’s ears as we speak…

  11. says

    I thought it was Hillary.

    Regardless, I always do vote, usually for the democrat. (I was a member of the Green party the first time Nader ran, but a lot of us were really not happy at all with his messy campaign issues…like having a different VP co-runner in every state he got onto the ballot.)

    But it really doesn’t make a bit of a difference if I vote or not. I might feel differently if I still lived in Cali, but I now live in a very conservative state with all of three electoral votes. The election always goes the same. Even if by some miracle, the state went democrat, I suspect it would be a case of hell freezing over and every other state going democrat before us (with the exception of possibly Idaho, Montana and Texas). Those three votes will most likely not make or break the election.

  12. juniorprof says

    You see, I saw that yesterday and thought my head was going to explode. Look, I’m a Democrat, but I’m fed up with Hillary and cannot have any more loyalty to a party that won’t stand up to her when she continues to pull this kind of shit. If the “O” man doesn’t get the nomination (assuming he continues to lead the actual voting) I’m bailing on the party (assuming Hillary doesn’t change her ways) and will vote for another candidate (I don’t sit out elections — local issues will also be on the ballot along with some outstanding local candidates for important offices who I am proud to vote for).

    P.S. Can we get a post over at DM on advice for grad student / postdoc hiring vs. technicians for new PIs. Short term vs long term payoff in productivity, etc.. The assumption being we’ve already found a quality tech for overall stability… budgets are tight and people are the most expensive part of running the old lab… just asking for some PP wisdom

  13. says

    Absolutely true,PP!! I’m a a loyal Democrat. I will only vote for a Democrat. Perfect loyalty here.

    This is really a three party race we’re looking at. Democrats, DLC Republicans, Republicans. Now, if the people in the Democratic Party would just stop and look at this three party system, they would see the path that has consistantly been unsuccessful, is that of the DLC Republicans pretending to be Democrats. Unless, and until, Democrats stand up and present a unified force against DLC Republicans, they will continue to be on the losing end of the stick.

    That’s how I see this and HRHHC is showing us right now how much she is like what we have already seen from little boy bush. This delusional “staying the course” as the “encumbent” and continued “I will win” sounds JUST like bush and his iraq policy. Same fucking thing. More kneejerk ractionary blather whaaaaa.

    I voted and will vote for the Democrat. The voters need to just take a minnit and decide if they wish to remain the victims of petulant pubbie/dlc children, or if they wish to proceed to sane adult reality.

    In case there is any doubt. Barack Obama is the only Democrat running in this election. If only we could unite behind the front runner and presumptive nominee. Right now.
    :-)

  14. larue says

    Petulant. Heh. Heh. Heh. He said petulant!
    Festering gobs of . . . alas, I digress to a Python Of Old.

    *G*

    Less you lived in CA, and had Nixon as a Senator, and Reagan as a Governor, you don’t get to cry wolf on the dem’s for being asleep since what, WaterGate?

    We’ve taken our beatings, we’ve had our leaders shot and killed.

    And we went to work with what we had, to make SOME fuckin thing of our lives after RFK went down. The last nail in the progressive coffin, for the most part.

    Geraldine Ferraro was a NICE breath of air, for a while, in ’84, *G*

    I met my wife and seduced her into a lifelong commitment that summer, talkin about Geraldine Ferraro. Yep, I was ALL my old lady wanted in a man. Sensitive, caring and all FOR a woman for VP!!

    And truth be told, as we went from chef and waitress back then to Fin Analyst and Recruiter now, we kept our ideals and desires.

    For the good things. Like, you know, The Constitution. Roe v. Wade. Kansas v. Board Of Ed.

    And we cringed our asses off every time a bad and new appointment to the supremes proved to be costing us ground on our ideals.

    And we suffered thru 8 years of prosperity under Clinton, while we watched America continue it’s onslaught on the Middle Class, eliminating jobs, lessening restrictions on media ownership (I was IN broadcasting, and saw it all go away beginnin with Ronnie RayGun the bastid), outsourcing to foreign nations, consolidating corporate ownership, buying out mom and pop business in EVERY sector of the economy, and a continual tax cut for the 1%, and an increase in arms production and development.

    And me and my old lady, kept reinventing ourselves, time after time, to adapt and integrate to the lower middle class, to get out of the restaurant and hospitality biz . . . and we worked, schooled, and worked cheap to get entry level jobs.

    All the while, others were getting SCREWED. MUCH worse than us. We at least, didn’t have children to raise, and our meager wages to start over were ok to deal with. We were lucky. Still are.

    And that’s what the dem’s were doing from Camelot to Reagan, to BushCo.

    And yeah, the pub’s hammered us, time after time and Clinton hammered us despite the prosperity he ruled under (lucky, methinks anymore, now that I revisit his 8 yrs).

    Reagan, Clinton, Bush 1 = 20 years.
    Bush Deusch = 8 MORE years.

    1980 to now.

    28 years.

    All under the helm of: Reagan, Bush, Clinton.

    So for the past 30 fuckin years or so, we’ve been bought, sold, consolidated, outsourced, and laid off, and pretty much had our lives and wallets raped and pillaged for the benefit of the 1%.

    Who’s fault is all this?

    I wanna blame a stupid public. Real stupid.

    But maybe, they just beat the shit outta us, post Camelot and ’69, and they beat the shit outta us.

    Time to beat back. Ya think?

    Go Progressives!!!

    Obama ain’t the best, we got SCREWED on Edwards and Kuch.

    But I’ll take a blind shot in the dark against Shilary, or anything the pub’s might offer.

    They are SO screwed, and so corrupted, the national tide is PISSED, even the fundie’s . . . and it’s time to bury them BURY them like Kruschev once pounded out with his shoe.

    So let’s bury them.

    And we can worry about REAL progressive ideals after this job to do in front of us. And if Obama is NOT any progressive’s choice, I gotta say, yer really a pub in dem cloth. Cuz Shilary is ALL about status quo.

    Thanks for the room to rant, Physio.

    Harumph.

    *G*

  15. says

    Larue,
    One great point you touch upon, that is frequently lost on even many progressives, is that the Clinton years saw some exacerbation of one great RayGun era malady—the disconnect of Wall Street value from domestic productivity. Often, the company bottom line and exorbitant executive compensation came at the expense of, instead of DUE TO, domestic manufacturing, training, R&D, and of course, good jobs.
    We need someone who will be able to change that trend significantly. But we also need a better public awareness of how to change this trend by exercising better consumer judgment.

  16. says

    What’s wrong with our political system is not only that Republicans have been running the show for 8 miserable years but that the Democrats are spineless (and as that great rant from larue pointed out – 8 semi bad years from the DLC). I am not happy with Obama’s chant of unity, but I think hat he’s taking a page out of Harold Washington’s book (trying to be fairer than fair). Obama was areal activist, fighting for the inner city. Don’t let his RHETORIC get to you, he’s just trying to get to a position where he can affect change.

    As for Hillary – she caved in. She fucked up. And spineless Democrats like her must be punished. Why did she vote for the war? Because she’s afraid of the warmongers. She’s afraid of looking weak. I want her and Democrats of her ilk to be afraid of us! I want them to suffer cuz WE PROGRESSIVES make them suffer. BUT if we all fall into line behind her no matter what she’s done or voted for, she (and future spineless Dems) will take your support for granted.

    As for party affiliation, I don’t care about the Dems, I want a sane Government. And if it means opposing Hillary and all the other spineless Democrats so be it.

  17. says

    Sleeping or bong? I (heh,heh) vote the latter! If the stupid assholes had a good nights sleep they would be a little smarter… No?

    But yes, I have noticed this myself. I think this is what I’d like to refer to as the “Fox effect”. The general American public has been dumbed down to such an extent that they only respond to sound bytes and simple meme speak. Right now it’s the Iraq disaster and the subprime meltdown that has caught the American publics imagination – understandably, because so many are experiencing these firsthand – and frankly, any deeper understanding as to the Bush administration’s policies that have gotten us to this point is simply, totally and completely lacking – sad.

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