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The prophet who couldn’t shoot straight

Read about the real goings-on at the Bundy Ranch. Racism is just one of the lunacies on parade. GOOGLE DOCTORS THAT REMOVE MICROCHIPS. The summary:

Welfare negroes, the United Nations, sexually devious lawyers, satan, a Chinese solar farm, microchips, secret-agent NPS, a Muslim-Kenyan president, hippies, illegals. Take your pick.

Also revealing, and very Mormon: Bundy cast himself as a divinely inspired prophet of god who was delivering instructions to his people, instructing them in the prophecies they were supposed to follow, and chastising them for failing.

He goes on to explain that, although they managed to deter the BLM, they failed to do it “within one hour,” as the revelation had prophesied. So when an hour passes, he decides to get in his bulldozer and march on the BLM himself. The dozer gets stuck in the mud and he receives another revelation.

“It come to my mind real plain — the good Lord said, ‘Bundy, it’s not your job, it’s THEIR job.’ So we come back over here and heard that they had brought some cattle back. So I want you to understand,” addressing the crowd, “This is not my job, it’s YOUR job.

It’s a real comic opera. It’s too bad these kinds of clowns have successfully inserted themselves into American politics.

Comments

  1. loreo says

    Some dude defending FREEDOM laughs about a New Mexico sheriff chaining people to a tree. That’s how self-reflective it is out there.

  2. says

    I find it sadly funny that so many prophets sound like fairy tale villains moving the goalposts after the hero defeats their challenge.

  3. plainenglish says

    ever time I load me guns up and git atop the dozer to fix some bureaucrotchy and then she farts out in a slick er gits too low on gas, well then I reckon a voice starts a speakin in me too and it starts a professing and sighing and both them togeder too, professisighing about all you folk standin round and not even havin guns and shit. Yer all probly not even all red up in scrip-sures, you homogenized womun forsuken unbiblicals. It aint all up to me. Gawd said that DIREKTLY inta my head. FerChricesake. Gawd says the pukewarm bunch a ya gonna burn, less you get serious beliving going-on and I mean FIREPOWER and hearing Gawdawmitey right in yer noggin like ME…
    (My sincere apologies: my dad was a preacher and, well, sometimes it just comes on like a serious fever.)

  4. atterdag says

    PZ wrote:

    “It’s too bad these kinds of clowns have successfully inserted themselves into American politics.”

    I think it is a great thing. They are helping to show the public just how bat shit crazy the Republicans are.

  5. David Marjanović says

    (My sincere apologies: my dad was a preacher and, well, sometimes it just comes on like a serious fever.)

    …Whoa.

  6. Trebuchet says

    Holy Shitte. I thought I was beyond being surprised by that tribe.

    I feel a little sorry for Bundy, in a weird way. He’s a deluded old man, apparently living in isolation for far too long.

  7. says

    It’s too bad these kinds of clowns have successfully inserted themselves into American politics.

    I think it’s OK. He’s imploding quite beautifully, which means he’s more or less trolling the right-wing to see who’s nuts enough to support him. He’ll be an embarrassment around their necks forever. Someone needs to make sure he can afford to go to the RNC next election.

  8. raven says

    You all are missing the most important feature here.

    Bundy is on the verge of becoming a star. <b.This means Big Money!!! Huge amounts of money. Oceans of money.

    There is a lot of money to be made as a thief, racist, lying, deluded, cuckoo hater.

    EVIDENCE:

    1. Glenn Beck. In a few short years after Fox News terminated him, he has made $100 million with his websites etc.

    2. Sarah Palin. Coming up with a word salad now and then has been quite profitable.

    3. Bristol Palin. Spending 15 minutes in the back of a car with some guy she didn’t know very well has provided her with a kid and a nice living.

    4. Pat Robertson. A billionaire. AFAICT, Robertson is a Zombie and they occasionally inject him with Reanimation Serum, point him in some direction, and hope he doesn’t say something really stupid.

    5. Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, everyone at Fox NonNews.

    6. This list could go on for pages and pages.

    I feel a little sorry for Bundy, in a weird way.

    Sorry Trebuchet. You are almost certainly a normal person making an honest living somehow who means well. And a year from now Bundy will be able to buy and sell you many times over.

  9. raven says

    BTW, this Mormony I’m a prophet now and god wants you to send me money act, should make the Mormon leadership a bit uneasy.

    1. It’s an authoritarian mind control cult, controlled from the top down.

    2. They already have a pope in SLC, the chief Prophet, Seer, and Revelator who talks with god and jesus all the time.

    3. Quite often, other Mormons discover how easy it is to become a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and talk to god and jesus. The fact is, anyone can do it!!! It’s easy.

    AFAWK, they are all making it up as they go along. Even if some of them have been brainwashed to believe it.

    4. The result has been a huge number of schisms within the Mormon church. There are at least a hundred splits. Most of them are really ugly small polygamist cults like the FLDS. Since the Mormon popes conflict with each other, there have been wars between them in the late 20th century that killed dozens of people.

    Speaking of prophecies, I’m getting one now. The cat wants in, open the door. Oh, it is just Bast again, the Egyptian cat goddess.

  10. raptor says

    I don’t think these “clowns have successfully inserted themselves into American politics”, rather, I believe Fox News and similar media ilk have done so.

    I hope it backfires on them in a grand fashion.

  11. dannorth says

    “The prophet who couldn’t shoot straight ”

    Please PZ cut the guy some slack. I mean he was made in God’s image and it’s not like God is known for the quality of his aim.

    What with sending hurricanes and tornadoes on the Bible Belt because of the sin of same sex wedding all the while sparing Canada where it as been legal form many years (well maybe He sent us Harper as punishment).

  12. Ogvorbis: Still failing at being human. says

    secret-agent NPS

    We have secret agents? When did we start doing that? Why didn’t I get the email?

  13. robro says

    Ogvorbis #13

    We have secret agents? When did we start doing that? Why didn’t I get the email?

    That info is “Need to know” only. Did you need to know? Bundy and company needed to know. It’s all part of a hush-hush, top secret investigations into what bears do in the woods.

  14. says

    raven @#9 is absolutely right, mormons leaders have always had a hard time limiting the powers of prophecy and revelation to only their top boil-brained canker blossoms. Joe Smith even had to clarify once by saying that he had received a revelation that only he was allowed to receive revelations.

    Interesting to see Cliven Bundy blaming his followers, not himself, when any of his prophecies or revelations fall short.

  15. Pteryxx says

    Also the BLM is reeeaally part of the UN:

    A militia member with the group Oath Keepers named Mark, who drove in from out of state by way of Zion National Park (“which was absolutely beautiful — you should go”), offers to explain to me the truth behind public land management.

    “The assumption is that the BLM is part of the federal government. But we need to check the facts on that one. The BLM doesn’t work for the government: they work for the United Nations. They might as well be wearing blue helmets. If we find out there’s money being exchanged between Harry Reid and the Chinese government, no one should be surprised.”

    *headshake*

    Lynna linked recently to this Maddow segment, which is twenty minutes of disturbing history connecting Bundy’s views directly to Reconstruction and the posse comitatus movement.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/radical-racist-context-missed-in-rancher-hype-236481603620

    Summarized with further discussion in Salon:

    Although it was not her stated purpose, the tale she told clearly connects negative attitudes toward blacks with hostility to big government — and it connects both to a specific history and mythology that Cliven Bundy is part of. Maddow explained how the tightly intertwined sovereign citizen and posse comitatus movements — both represented by Cliven Bundy and his supporters — descended from the post-Civil War South’s first successful roll-back of federal troops protecting African-Americans and defending the Civil War Amendments: the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (which opened the way for establishing Southern segregation and the violent suppression of black rights in the South) and the hard-right anti-government Posse Comitatus organization founded in its name by William Potter Gale, among others, in the 1970s. Maddow’s concise history touched on the violent shootouts involving Gordon Kahl, as well as Ruby Ridge and the Oklahoma City bombing — Maddow noted that Timothy McVeigh was apprehended because he was driving a truck without any license plates, “because sovereign citizens don’t believe in license plates.”

    Maddow made it clear that she didn’t believe that Fox News and the conservative media more generally were hyping Cliven Bundy “because he is a posse comitatus guy,” she said, “but somebody should have noticed that he kept bringing this stuff up.”

  16. Trebuchet says

    raven @#9 is absolutely right, mormons leaders have always had a hard time limiting the powers of prophecy and revelation to only their top boil-brained canker blossoms. Joe Smith even had to clarify once by saying that he had received a revelation that only he was allowed to receive revelations.

    Yeah. Warren Jeffs is another self-proclaimed prophet. Anybody know how many wives Bundy has?

    @8, raven:

    Sorry Trebuchet. You are almost certainly a normal person making an honest living somehow who means well. And a year from now Bundy will be able to buy and sell you many times over.

    You’re quite right about Bundy. As for making an honest living, I’m in the “taker” class now, living on pension and Social Security. And on Medicare, to boot. I have a hard time understanding why so many people like me love people like Bundy.

  17. Trebuchet says

    Dang, the first paragraph above was supposed to have blockquotes around it. It’s from #15. We can have edit function, pleeeeze?

  18. says

    atterdag:

    I think it is a great thing. They are helping to show the public just how bat shit crazy the Republicans are

    I don’t think it’s a good thing in the slightest. People like this, with their wild conspiracy theories, love of god over all else, and their proud bigotry are involved in running the country. This isn’t a sideshow circus. The bat shit crazy GOPers are running things in this country and increasing the suffering of people.

  19. mikeyb says

    This just shows once again the utter bankruptcy of the right. When characters like Joe the Plumber, Phil Robertson, George Zimmerman, Ted Nugent, Sarah Palin and now Bundy are lifted out of obscurity and held up as icons of conservative martyrdom, things are seriously fucked up. We’ll Ted Nugent wasn’t exactly obscure, but he has been propelled from a has been mediocre heavy metal star to superstardom by right wing radio and Faux News.

  20. anuran says

    If he’s ever been wrong about any of his “prophecies”, even once, he’s a False Prophet and must be killed. If you want to be Biblical you can’t pick and choose.

  21. blf says

    secret-agent NPS

    We have secret agents?

    Haven’t you ever wondered why some of yer live-steam choo-choos are parked on a different siding in the morning, or facing the wrong way, or are warm ?

    (Geesh, the quality of rangers you get these days…)

  22. Ogvorbis: Still failing at being human. says

    blf:

    That might work. Except that we have no operating steam locomotives right now. And don’t expect to have one up and ruining until late August. At the earliest.

    Invenitur tamen in eis non convenit motus,

  23. says

    Cliven Bundy’s racist comments about “the Negro” actually express concepts that are mainstream within the Republican and/or conservative movements. Bundy just failed to use the correct euphemisms. He wasn’t careful enough.

    Walter Williams, a conservative economist at George Mason University, who told the Wall Street Journal that “The welfare state has done to black Americans what slavery couldn’t do … that is to destroy the black family.” Likewise, there’s Star Parker—a frequent speaker at conservative gatherings like CPAC and the Values Voter Summit—whose Uncle Sam’s Plantation argues the same.

    As a Republican candidate for lieutenant governor in Virginia, E.W. Jackson told his supporters that “slavery did not destroy the black family … government did that,” and last year, FreedomWorks—a Tea Party group—released a documentary called Runaway Slave, which details the “Democratic plantation” of welfare and entitlement benefits, used to lure African-Americans away from the Republican Party. And key to the narrative is the idea that these benefits ruined black families, succeeding where slavery failed.

    Slate link.

  24. unclefrogy says

    I’m glad to get that straightened out! So it was welfare and it’s Allie unemployment that is destroying the negro family and not poverty and systematic discrimination.
    Glad to see it explained and that it was also the reason the the GOP has done so poorly with regards to the “black vote” and that it has nothing to do with the “southern strategy” of supporting the racists fight against the liberal democrats.

    it so counter intuitive
    uncle frogy

  25. nich says

    Loreo:

    Some dude defending FREEDOM laughs about a New Mexico sheriff chaining people to a tree. That’s how self-reflective it is out there.

    It’s not a laughing matter! They were breaking FEDERAL LAW by entering the country illegally! They weren’t being denied freedom! They were being arrested for illegally entering the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Local police have to enforce our FEDERAL borders! I call on all militia members of the United States to help our local police enforce our FEDERAL borders and FEDERAL laws by keeping illegal immigrants on the right side of our FEDERAL borders!

    It’s just the right thing to do. God told me so.

  26. imthegenieicandoanything says

    Clowns? Yes, and enough to fill an itty-bitty car.

    But these clowns are as funny as Pennywise or Pogo: maybe as dangerous and certainly as unbalanced.

  27. twas brillig (stevem) says

    re 26:
    [to rephrase @26:] Conservawonks say “A is worse than B”, but Bundy went off the script by saying “B is better than A.” His SIN was saying the word “better”, Conservowonks are mandated to always say “worse”. *That* is important to keep their potential Conservoes Angry; negative words cue negative emotions, positive words cue positive emotions; regardless of the target. They want everyone to be angry, cuz both A and B are bad things, but saying B is better than A, distorts the emotional response. To keep the audience angry, it’s important to emphasize that A is WORSE than B. Bundy mangled the script and caused the Conservoes to disown him. All the Liberoes anger at the mention that B is better than A swayed the Conservoes not in the least; they disregard the Liberoes entirely, but the Conservoes are so authoritarian that to mangle their script is irredeemable.

  28. says

    The militia idiot in the quote Pteryxx posted is looking in the wrong direction. If the Chinese are giving money to American politicians it’s likely going to be the right wing crankosphere types. After all they’re far more of a danger to the US than the Harry Reids, who actually want a functional government. Of course like all conspiracy mongers he’ll never consider the idea that the conspiracy theories he’s being fed are to benefit some other conspiracy.

  29. anuran says

    @25 mikeyb

    Looks like Bundy has competition for racist asshole of the week. LA Clippers basketball owner Donald Sterling just went on a racist rant.

    Oh, you mean the Toenail Clippers, losingest team in the history of professional sports?

  30. says

    It just goes to show that the Right isn’t opposed “welfare queens” per se, they’re more so opposed allocating welfare to people who will upset their balance of power. They don’t talk about rural white people dependent on government programs, but they’ll rage about “inner city” people on welfare. And we all know what “inner city” means.

  31. jaytheostrich says

    You really want to watch out for those ‘sexually devious lawyers’, they’re a sneaky bunch.

  32. says

    Freedom loving patriots for slavery:
    Daily Kos link.

    […]Republicans believe in segregation… of past from present. Reminding them of anything said before the latest press conference is a violation of their right to pretend they’ve always been consistent.

  33. says

    The conspiracy theory that chips have been or will be embedded in everyone’s head is having a measurably negative effect on getting people to sign up for Affordable Health Care:

    Health professionals, state officials, social workers, insurance agents and others trying to make the law work for uninsured Americans say the partisan divisions and attack ads have depressed participation in some places. They say the law has been stigmatized for many who could benefit from it, especially in conservative states like West Virginia that have the poorest, most medically underserved populations but where President Obama and his signature initiative are hugely unpopular. [...]

    “The controversy about Obamacare does seem to have interfered with people’s ability to sort out the value of the marketplace for getting health insurance for themselves,” said Dr. James B. Becker, associate professor of the Marshall University School of Medicine and medical director of the state’s Medicaid program. […]

    “Literally, people thought there would be chips embedded in their bodies if they signed up for Obamacare,” Bryant said. […]

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/literally-people-thought-there-would-be

    The signs at the rallies say things like “Grim Reaper for Obamacare.”

  34. Crimson Clupeidae says

    So now when conservatives [sic], yell ‘Benghazi’, we can smirk, and just say ‘Bundy’. :D

  35. says

    From a new Salon article comparing various old white men gone wild with racism:

    Comparing the situation of Sterling’s players — talented, wealthy athletes with agents and contracts – to slavery is silly. Still, a twisted and racist paternalism links Cliven Bundy’s slavery rant with Sterling’s talk about his players. “I give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses” is only a few bad leaps of logic away from slavery being good for black people because it gave them “homes with their chickens and their gardens and their children around them, and their man having something to do.” In both cases, black people are simple, passive, and not entirely capable of caring for themselves. They should be grateful for the good will of the men who exploit their labor and accept their position at the bottom of society, because they’re not meant for more than that. […]

    I’m posting this mostly because it makes a good point about the paternalism behind Cliven Bundy’s racism.

    Salon link.

  36. David Marjanović says

    “Literally, people thought there would be chips embedded in their bodies if they signed up for Obamacare,” Bryant said.

    I’ve lost all ability to even.