Mar 22 2014

Richard Carrier will be everywhere all the time

Tonight he’s on Skeptic Fence. Next week he’ll be speaking in San Francisco. The week after that, he’ll be talking about Jesus in Ottawa.

I don’t know about this. Carrier’s the guy who finally convinced me that Jesus was little more than a glorified legend, largely by pointing out all the inconsistencies in the Bible. I’m beginning to suspect that Carrier must be a kind of congealed myth, himself.


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    I don’t recall Jesus going to Ottowa. Is that in the bible?

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    Al Dente

    According to the Book of Mormon Jesus came to the Americas. Maybe he went slumming in Ottawa after hitting the bright lights of Saskatoon.

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    And, yeah, I know I spelled Ottawa incorrectly, but it’s Canada, so who cares?

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    If Richard Carrier didn’t exist would it be necessary to invent him?


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    As an Illinoiser, I always assume when someone says “Ottawa” that they mean Ottawa, Illinois.

    Besides, Jesus wouldn’t want to speak in Canada anyway. After he says “So, like, the meek shall inherit the earth, eh.” Then he has to repeat it en français, comme ça: “Les débonnaires hériteront de la terre, eh.” Way too cumbersome.

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    Les débonnaires hériteront de la terre

    I just translated that back into English and it seems some lucky upper-class dudes are about to come into some inheritance.
    Is Richard Carrier going to speak in both languages, too? It’s not as hard as speaking in tongues.

    Al Dente
    Slumming in Ottawa?? *tsk* Everyone knows the real slumming is across the riverin Hull.

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    Al Dente

    an Illinoiser

    Isn’t the correct term “Illinoisirite”? Or is it “Illinoisese” or possibly “Illinoisois”?

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    Slumming is what people from Calgary do when they visit Edmonton.

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    My first step toward being a mythicist came from being bored at a moment when an issue of “The Watchtower” was the only source of potential amusement at hand. Carrier is the one who finally confirmed to me that I was leaning the right way on the subject. I’m wanting “On the Historicity of Jesus” on the same level I want “The Winds of Winter” … and it’s going to be great watching all the people who freaked out over Rasa Aslan’s book really lose it over this one!

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    Isn’t the correct term “Illinoisirite”? Or is it “Illinoisese” or possibly “Illinoisois”?

    You got me, Al. “Illinoiser” is a colloquialism, as in “I’m more Illinoiser than you.” The correct term is, in fact, Le IIllinoisois”, which refers to the male gender. “La Illinoisoise” is feminine, and “Les Illinoisoises” is plural. The only advantage I can see is that when we go to Canada, we only have to say it once.

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    “Le Illinoisois”, [...] “La Illinoisoise”

    Technically, those should be ‘L’Illinoisois’ and L’Illinoisoise’. Though that would make them French words, not Illinoisy words. :)
    That capital-i plus two ells confuses my brain.

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    We can butcher our French any way we want. After all, they’re foreigners, and we don’t have to listen to them. Besides, it’s been decades since I took French, and I barely remember what I had for breakfast an hour ago. Pretty sure not french toast, though. ;-)

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    Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought

    I have to introduce American state names as a way to practice French pronunciation in class next time.
    Guaranteed to break your brain and numb your tongue. Or the other way around.

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    :D Freedom fries, maybe?

    I always get stuck with Kansas and Arkansas. And Tucson. I don’t think even French will help you out there.

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    twas brillig (stevem)

    “Isn’t the correct term “Illinoisirite”? Or is it “Illinoisese” or possibly “Illinoisois”?”

    The fool here would say it was “Illinoiter”, based on the weird name for residents of Cambridge as Cantabrigians.
    Apologies; I just have to display my ignorance; to try to clean it out ;-}

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    “Isn’t the correct term “Illinoisirite”? Or is it “Illinoisese” or possibly “Illinoisois”?”

    The correct term is “from Illinois.” As in “I am from Illinois.” Or, perhaps, “in Illinois.”

    I am from Illinois and our dealings with linguistics are purely practical. If it looks stupid, then nope.

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    Thanks for the tip about the SF event, PZ. Perhaps I can make it.

    My dictionary says a person from Illinois is called an Illinoisan.

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    Al Dente

    Sastra @17

    The correct term is “from Illinois.”

    Not “Illinoiswallah” or “Illinoisi”? I am disappoint.

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    Whatever the above posts say, it’s Illinwak.

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    Daniel Schealler

    Silly PZ. Of course Richard Carrier will be everywhere all the time.

    Omnipresence is a property of Richard Carrier by definition.

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    Martin Williams

    Dr. Carrier will be in San Luis Obispo in the heart of California’s Central Coast on April 19th.

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