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Oct 13 2013

Alabama football prayer poll

Boy, when you see those four words strung together in the title, you know exactly what you expect to see: sophisticated theology. They certainly do parse the temporal options finely to conceal the fact that they are proposing to to use the public school system to promote sectarian religious practice.

When do you think prayer is appropriate in high school football?

Over the public address system  33.77%

In the locker room  20.65%

At midfield after the game  19.44%

Before or after practice  17.44%

Not at all  8.7%

They left out “Whenever the opposing team scores a goal” and “When the cheerleaders do those high kicks” and “Someone ought to be constantly praying to make sure the earth doesn’t open up beneath us and tumble us down into Hell.”

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  1. 1
    zenlike

    What do you think? Take our survey. (You can vote for more than one choice.)

    4 unconstitutional choices and 1 right choice. And you can select multiple choices. Can you say ‘rigged poll’?

  2. 2
    left0ver1under

    With pro-religious “options” splitting the “vote” four ways, this would be an easy one to skew, with a concerted effort.

  3. 3
    Cuttlefish

    No splitting there, though–multiple choices are allowed.

  4. 4
    chigau (違う)

    ‘not at all’ is now in second place.

  5. 5
    Donovan

    Nice. So this poll will reduced to two options and reported as, “Majority wants prayer at public school football.”

  6. 6
    M can help you with that.

    Given that it’s multiple choice, it should be spun the other way:

    There is no context in which the majority of people responding think school-endorsed prayer should be conducted, even in Alabama. Almost two-thirds said prayers should not be read over the PA system, and the prayer-free numbers are even higher for other potential prayer venues.

  7. 7
    chigau (違う)

    ‘not at all’ is now in first place.

  8. 8
    Artor

    I don’t see the right choice anywhere on the list. I was going to go with, “Privately, off the field.”

  9. 9
    leah

    It’s so annoying that they can’t (or won’t) understand that not allowing praying is only about school sponsored or the appearance of school sponsored prayer. It does not mean that you can’t pray to yourself. There were too many comments in the article about that, and I only made it to the first 10 comments! Many people commented that “you can’t stop the football players from praying that they make it on fourth down!”

  10. 10
    Ray, rude-ass yankee

    I believe that each individual person should be able to pray their asses off, before during or after the game, on or off the field (during a moment of silence perhaps) as long as they aren’t audible or disruptive to anyone else. It’s when they feel they have a right to dictate to all attending which god/gods/pasta get prayed to that the problems start.

    But that wasn’t one of the choices.

    Just me = $ 0.02

  11. 11
    David Marjanović

    Does “before or after practice” mean in private?

  12. 12
    Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls

    Does “before or after practice” mean in private?

    Usually no.

  13. 13
    Rey Fox

    Whenever the opposing team scores a goal

    A goal? Oh boy. Stick to the biology, Prof. Zebrafish.

  14. 14
    chigau (違う)

    Rey Fox
    Relax. You know he meant a hole-in-one.

  15. 15
    Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought

    Wait, it’s not called a goal?
    Then it’s score-touch… something like that.

  16. 16
    David Marjanović

    Not at all 35.77% (1,100 votes)

    Over the public address system 23.61% (726 votes)

    In the locker room 14.5% (446 votes)

    At midfield after the game 13.72% (422 votes)

    Before or after practice 12.39% (381 votes)

    Total Votes: 3,075

    Wait, it’s not called a goal?

    So much for calling handegg “football”!

  17. 17
    Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought

    Football

    Ha!

    They could have called it elbowumbrella and it would make just as much sense.

  18. 18
    jnorris

    They left out saying your prayers while the other team is praying so Jesus can’t hear their prayers. Pay louder, pray harder for a football victory. GO TEAM JESUS!!!

  19. 19
    Ogvorbis: Still failing at being human.

    David Marjanović @ 11:

    Does “before or after practice” mean in private?

    No.

    When I was involved in football and baseball when I was young, group prayer, led by the coach or manager, with all athletes participating, was normal. Failure to participate in the prayer led to failure to participate in the game. It was a mandatory prayer led by the authorities.

    Private prayer, to me, means each person praying, or not praying, on their own.

  20. 20
    mnb0

    Oh, as a non-American I think praying at an American Football game very appropriate at any given moment. Watching people praying is less boring than American Handegg.
    Moreover via Mano Singham I have learned that American Handegg causes head injuries, so atheist athletes should be disencouraged to play it by all means. Let the theists become more stupid instead.
    [/cynism]

  21. 21
    blf

    Hah! I’ve never heard of the term Alienstani Handegg for gridiron, but do rather like it…

  22. 22
    ButchKitties

    Nice. There’s no “individual prayer” option, so the poll is worded in such a way that if you don’t pick one of the official school prayer options, it looks like don’t support the student’s right to pray at all.

    It wouldn’t even need to be a separate option. Just changing the last one to “Privately, or not at all” would be sufficient.

  23. 23
    chigau (違う)

    When do you think prayer is appropriate in public high school football?
    Not at all 51.21% (2,136 votes)
    Over the public address system 17.84% (744 votes)
    In the locker room 11.05% (461 votes)
    At midfield after the game 10.45% (436 votes)
    Before or after practice 9.45% (394 votes)
    Total Votes: 4,171

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