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Aug 25 2013

What do I think of Ray Comfort?

Jaclyn speaks for me.

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  1. 1
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    She is so awesome!
    Geology vs Hello Kitty hahahahahaha

  2. 2
    tuibguy

    She’s got him pegged. Even if he understood what people were saying in response to his bullshit, he wouldn’t change a thing.

  3. 3
    Inaji

    Have a standing ovation, Jaclyn. That was absolutely fabulous.

  4. 4
    jimwissick

    Ray is a lying sack of shit…. and it’s good to see him being called out on it.

  5. 5
    Kevin Schelley

    I so want Geology vs. Hello Kitty

  6. 6
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    I subscribed to her channel after watching this video. She has done some really cool videos. Appatently when she first started doing YouTube vids she was a believer. She says it was ‘in your face’ atheism that led to her rejection of religion. She still kept her first videos up, so there is a continuity to her video history there.
    Kinda cool.

  7. 7
    chigau (違う)

    I like her.

  8. 8
    Rey Fox

    Oh no Tony, she must not have been a True Christian(TM).

  9. 9
    bwells

    A mouthful of logic is mightier than a fistful of banana.

  10. 10
    Nigel McNaughton

    It occurs to me that Dawkins could have some fun with this if he wanted to.

    He could offer Ray a deal, release ALL the interviews in full. And then he could do something in response, like a token video response or something. Call Ray’s bluff.

  11. 11
    unclefrogy

    I liked the drawing of Ray with a banana behind his back cornering Dawkins in An Elevator!

    hehehehehe
    uncle frogy

  12. 12
    khms

    Sorry, meta comment only.

    Well, that reminds me again why I hate youtube talking videos.

    It sounded like I’d want to read it. From the comments here, I’d probably like it. In this format, however, I had trouble getting even 10% of it.

    It feels about as if PZ posted a big jpeg containing a picture of his text. With lots of compression artifacts. And a five point font. And some Javascript to automatically scroll it about twice as fast as you can read it.

    I really don’t understand why people do that, or why other people like it.

  13. 13
    Lofty

    That was nice. Proper directed anger at an unrepentant conman.

  14. 14
    Lofty

    PZ Meyers

    Ding.

  15. 15
    Nick Gotts

    PZ Meyers raped me. Believe me – James King

    Oh I do – to exactly the same extent that you believe yourself. But who is this “PZ Meyers” of whom you speak?

  16. 16
    Alex

    Heh, some day some psychiatrist will identify the kind of brain rot that makes people post illiterate tirades against FTBloggers on completely unrelated posts.

    p.s.

    Yes James, of course, but what about Rebecca Watson? Hasn’t she done something nefarious as well that you have to tell us about in this thread?

    p.p.s.
    Satire. U doing it rong

  17. 17
    Ichthyic

    James, you’re an idiot. what else is there to say really?

    do you insist on making it even more apparent by continuing until you get tossed as well?

  18. 18
    Nick Gotts

    When ones best response to my satire of Myer’s unfounded rape accusation is to point out a typo, I become suspicious if there is much else to say in his defense.

    There are literally thousands of comments dealing with dishonest stupidity such as yours on numerous threads here; that you should expect yet another stinky little turd deposited on an unrelated thread to be given serious consideration says a good deal about your dishonesty, stupidity and arrogance, but nothing at all about PZ Myers.

  19. 19
    Maureen Brian

    James King,

    Now you’ve got your apostrophe in the wrong place. Are you sure that you are up to posting comments on blogs?

  20. 20
    Lofty

    Dog help us, but why are all the trolls these days so fucking stupid?

  21. 21
    lochaber

    Lofty>

    maybe a large majority of the troll-inclined folk find that other pursuits are more personally rewarding per time spent. So, we’re kinda stuck with either the really willfully ignorant ones and the ones that are really bad at cost-benefit analysis?

  22. 22
    Dana Hunter

    You know, it’s rather appropriate to have douchecanoes like James infesting a thread about Ray Comfort. They have much in common: the stubborn, wilfull refusal to accept reality, the habit of screwing fingers firmly in ears and screaming inanities to avoid hearing anything that might change their mind, the annoying habit of spitting twisted, out-of-context, misappropriated bits of their opponents’ arguments back at them and then howling checkmate, the willingness to lie viciously for their cause, and the inability to manage intentional humor… all that is left is for James to start waving a banana in our faces.

    Have you got a banana, James?

  23. 23
    anchor

    Have they ever not been stupid?

    The rant by Jaclyn is most refreshing and satisfying. Comfort is utterly outclassed when it comes to communication: when messages are conveyed to an intelligent independent-minded audience, the communicator has to measure up to that level of sophistication. She’s got it. Comfort and his acolytes (“James King”) are a cheap joke.

  24. 24
    Frankie

    Please don’t send him back to New Zealand, please!!?!

    Yo have no idea how long it took us to banish him to America

  25. 25
    tuibguy

    Trying to come up with a substantive response to the troll who can’t spell.

    Sorry, not worth the effort.

  26. 26
    Lofty

    Trying to come up with a substantive response to the troll who can’t spell.

    Yes we have no bananas?

  27. 27
    PZ Myers

    I was so offended that Mr King would sully the good name of satire by affixing that label to his puerile contribution, that I had to spank him with the banhammer.

  28. 28
    DLC

    Can we just send Ray to the happy Isle of Nikumaroro in the South Pacific ?
    Comfort, you’re a fucking creep. GTFO.

  29. 29
    Kevin, Youhao Huo Mao

    Thank you Jaclyn for saying exactly what I think.

    Ray Comfort is a con man, he’s making over $100,000 from his work. He’s making money off of preaching ignorance and pretending like he hasn’t received the answers to his questions a whole bunch of times already. He’s a liar and a fraud.

    No one scientific should give him the time of day or he’ll turn it into his next video (“Scientists are so stupid they can’t tell time!”) His sheep followers will bleat and pay him money to constantly throw them scraps of stuff that confirms their already held biases.

    PZ, you did make a huge mistake accepting Ray’s interview though, cause he has that film, and now he can splash your face on all his videos.

  30. 30
    Lofty

    PZ

    I was so offended that Mr King would sully the good name of satire by affixing that label to his puerile contribution, that I had to spank him with the banhammer.

    Betcha that made a hollow clonk sound. A pot metal troll.

  31. 31
    sundiver

    I wouldn’t want to inflict Bananaman on people who’ve done nothing to me, so Nikumaroro seems like a nicer alternative to what I’d be tempted to do to the asshole. But then, I’m not necessarily very charitable to lying shitheads.

  32. 32
    tsig

    I wish she would speak a little slower and distinctly. I have some loss of hearing in the upper register and that caused me to have to strain very hard to understand what she was saying.

    Other than that she’s great.

  33. 33
    murphykerr

    The fact that he fit necessary to edit videos and interviews that weaken his arguments is proof that Ray Comfort doesn’t even believe his own schpiel.

  34. 34
    ChasCPeterson

    I have to agree with khms @#12. These I-am-a-talking-head-ranting to-the-camera-or-someplace-in-that-general-vicinity video blogs are just unwatchable to me, no matter who’s doing them or what they’re saying. It seems to me a medium for narcissists: “look, I’m on TV with my opinions and great hair and shit”. The ones in which somebody reads text off a monitor are only slightly worse than the ones in which somebody just rambles on and on with the uhs and ums, maybe while driving.
    This woman speaks well and isn’t reading, but there are very few visuals here other than her talking, and she looks perfectly OK, but still I‘d rather read it.

  35. 35
    Akira MacKenzie

    tuibguy @ 2

    She’s got his pegged.

    Heh heh… I didn’t think Ray would be into that.

  36. 36
    Lars

    I wish she would speak a little slower and distinctly. I have some loss of hearing in the upper register and that caused me to have to strain very hard to understand what she was saying.

    Plus, her recording room doesn’t seem to be sound-proofed in any way, so the reverb slams back and forth between the walls until it hits you in the cochlea like a piece of chili-dipped barb wire on fire.

    Other than that, great video, I guess. (I’m resorting to guessing only because the auditory discomfort prevented me too from focusing properly on the actual content of her words.)

  37. 37
    moarscienceplz

    Does anybody else feel that she talks too quickly? Plus, she edits out any pauses, so it all just mooshes into word salad for me. She seems really sharp, but I just cannot focus on her arguments. Maybe she could release a less tightly edited version for the chronologically impaired, like me.

  38. 38
    moarscienceplz

    Hmmm, shoulda read ALL the comments before I posted. Well, it’s good to see that my comprehension problems are shared by others, so I have at least some hope that it’s not caused by dementia. :-)

  39. 39
    microraptor

    Please don’t send him back to New Zealand, please!!?!

    Yo have no idea how long it took us to banish him to America

    What if we compromised and only sent him halfway back?

    Also, upon seeing the title of this post, I was expecting a picture of a raspberry rather than a video.

  40. 40
    chigau (違う)

    microraptor

    What if we compromised and only sent him halfway back?

    This is the best Accommodationist argument I have ever seen.

  41. 41
    sbuh

    #12

    It’s a mixed bag for me. There are some people I’d rather listen to speak, like Aron or Peter Hadfield, and in fact I’ll sometimes put on videos of theirs I’ve listened to before for background noise.

    And then there are other people who I enjoy reading quite a bit like Paul Krugman or our generous host himself who while they are extremely eloquent in the printed word are not able to fully translate that into public speaking. Which is okay. I’m not a great speaker myself and tend to stick to type.

  42. 42
    Séan Lionel

    what I think of Ray Comfort? ” le hold my banana”

  43. 43
    Kagehi

    Hmm. I think its real simple. Now a days, unless he is also cheap, as well as a liar (or willing to shell out for high end professional stuff), even cameras tend to be digital. So.. when ever one of these morons wants to film you, you have a laptop with you, and an agreement they have to sign, which says, “If you do, I get an immediate copy of the unedited footage. Not ‘later’, ‘in a few days’, ‘when I get around to it’, ‘if I don’t somehow misplace it while editing’, etc., but ‘immediate’.” Or.. Make sure to have someone else with you, with their own camera.

    The only way these people hide is if they can drag you into the dark with them, then edit the results in what ever sewer grate they happen to have their studio. Shine a real light on them, right from the start, and not only are they, like certain politicians, unable to run away from the truth effectively, they will probably scurry under the nearest rock, the moment you turn it on.

  44. 44
    sethmassine

    Wow…what a takedown! I bet Banana Man ™ will have a lengthy, bitchy reply to this. How sad. She shredded him.

  45. 45
    Philip Storry

    PZ, you did make a huge mistake accepting Ray’s interview though, cause he has that film, and now he can splash your face on all his videos.”

    I disagree.

    We should extend courtesy and benefit of the doubt to all, inluding Mr. Comfort.

    It’s often politely called giving them enough rope to hang themselves. What they choose to do with the rope is their own affair, but also quite enlightening for others.

    Today our own dear PZ Meyers – and any attentive and sane person capable of thirty seconds of research – has no reason to ever deal with Mr. Comfort, on the grounds that he is a proven repeated misrepresenter of facts. (Both in his output, and in his dealings with others.)

    If Mr. Comfort wishes to deal with anyone again in the scientific/atheistic/humanistic/skeptic (delete as appropriate) community, we have a simple criteria he must first meet – full, unedited release of materials to show fair dealing. Until he can commit to that – preferably retroactively – everyone can now ignore him.

    It is lamentable that PZ has had to extend his kindness only to find it (as many predicted) abused, but it forms a valuable debt of bond that Mr. Comfort now publically owes. In that regard, it has been a public service which I thank PZ – and Peter Nonacs, Craig Stanford and Gail E. Kennedy – for performing.

    “Release the footage” should become our first, unwavering and non-negotiable response from hereon. I’d be unsurprised if he claimed accidental deletion this time, but by making it a constant refrain, we can simply remove Mr. Comfort from any serious consideration in the future.

  46. 46
    John Morales

    [meta]

    Philip Storry, your own attentiveness is in question when you refer to “PZ Meyers”.

  47. 47
    NightShadeQueen, resident nutcase

    sethmassine

    Just a quick heads up: Please don’t use “bitch” or any derivatives of that word around here; too much splash damage

    [from the commenting rules:]

    No splash damage. I have no problem with insults (except, not in the Lounge!), and encourage everyone to use vigorous and creative language. Except…I insist that you be precise and focused. Stilettos, not shotguns. There are classes of insults that rely on broad spectrum stereotypes to be insulting: racist, sexist, ableist, ageist slurs don’t just hit your target, they hit everyone in that group. So when you slam Joe Schmoe for being “old”, you’re also slamming me, and we old people get tetchy and cranky about that sort of thing.

  48. 48
    sethmassine

    Oops….my bad :/ I have personal censorship issues. Thanks for the heads up!

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