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Aug 23 2013

Now I’m at a mighty river

Mississippi headwaters

Mississippi headwaters

I think gravity is back to normal. You never can tell with all this wildness around me.

A conversation we had: now some of us have been at both ends of this river. Consensus view is that the food is much better at the other end.

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  1. 1
    hcdfanatic83

    Huh, I read the title as “Now I’m a mighty river”. Was kinda confused until I realized that there’s an “at”…

  2. 2
    aziraphale

    That is a lovely photo. Wish I was there. (Not likely since I’m in Cardiff, Wales, but I can dream, can’t I?)

  3. 3
    Lars

    The food is always better at the other end.

  4. 4
    Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls

    Food may be much better at the other end, but the water is much clearer at this end.

  5. 5
    petemoulton

    On the other hand, it was at the other end where President Obama did such a piss-poor job after Katrina.

  6. 6
    Kevin Schelley

    @petemoulton

    You do realize it was Bush who was President during and after Katrina… Obama has many faults, but Bush was the one who was responsible for the Katrina debacle.

  7. 7
    Winters

    I am smack dab in the middle of the river. No good food and murky water.

  8. 8
    Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls

    Hurricane Katrina was 2005. Bush was president, in his first year of his second term. If you tell lies like that, why should we believe your word on anything PeteMoulton? Think about that….

  9. 9
    PZ Myers

    Whew. Just moved into my cabin. Air conditioning. Private bath. WiFi. Wilderness is looking up.

  10. 10
    ekwhite

    I’m not sure, but I think @petemoulton was joking / referring to an article about how Fox News viewers thought that Obama rather than Bush was responsible for the fiasco after Hurricane Katrina. Of course xe could be a Fox News viewer.

  11. 11
    Naked Bunny with a Whip

    Pete Moulton is riffing on this poll.

  12. 12
    Goodbye Enemy Janine

    Is petemoulton a Louisiana Republican?

  13. 13
    Goodbye Enemy Janine

    Strange, that.

  14. 14
    kevskos

    It was a poll of republicans in LA, 28% blamed bush for the Katrina mess and 29% blamed Obama.

  15. 15
    Naked Bunny with a Whip

    Of course xe could be a Fox News viewer.

    Needs more “NObama” or “Obummer” I think.

  16. 16
    blf

    Nerd, I assume — until there is evidence to the contrary — petemoulton was joking about the recently reported poll finding:

    Twenty-eight percent [of the polled Louisiana Republicans] said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame.

  17. 17
    thephilosophicalprimate

    Reminds me of a favorite song…
    Indigo Girls, “Ghost”
    (2nd verse)
    The Mississippi’s mighty, but it starts in Minnesota
    At a place where you can walk across with five steps down
    And I guess that’s how you started like a pinprick to my heart
    But at this point you rush right through me and I start to drown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NxtFHNqq1Y

  18. 18
    moarscienceplz

    29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible.

    Now all you Minnesotans stop peeing in that river! It’s making the Louisianans stupid.

  19. 19
    petemoulton

    Did I need a sarcasm tag?

  20. 20
    qwerty

    I dunno PZ, you could have some fine wild rice soup with some walleye fried in a beer batter in Minnesota; so, the food here isn’t all bad. You’ve probably had too much tater tot hot dish lately.

    Anyhow, I’d say the restaurants are better at the other end of the river, but at least Minnesotans are more liberal than the people living downsteam.

  21. 21
    Kevin Schelley

    petemoulton, it would have helped. There’s been a lot of non-sarcastic stupid around these parts lately. Poe’s law and all…

  22. 22
    chigau (違う)

    PZ

    Whew. Just moved into my cabin. Air conditioning. Private bath. WiFi. Wilderness is looking up.

    I spent a large part of my working life living in tents, cooking over an open fire (or for luxury, a coleman stove), bathing in lakes and rivers, gently evicting wildlife from my tent, and other woodsy stuff.
    Yay modern Wilderness™!

  23. 23
    kaleberg

    You should note that Lake Itasca is notably closer to the center of the earth than the mouth of the Mississippi where it flows into the sea. Thanks to the equatorial bulge, many of the earth’s great river’s flow uphill, away from the earth’s core.

  24. 24
    Trebuchet

    @petemoulton:
    Did I need a sarcasm tag?

    No, you’ve just proven a) Poe’s Law, and b) that some Pharyngulites need to read the OTHER blogs at FTB.

  25. 25
    Trebuchet

    Those rocks, by the way, look mighty “created”. Either goddidit or that’s the highest dam on the Mississippi.

    Oh, and “Mississippi” is fun to type!

  26. 26
    cyberweez

    Deeeep river….My home is over Jordan….

    Name that movie…..

  27. 27
    Tethys

    Go see the remnant of old growth forest if you have time. Its not quite as massive as pacific rainforest, but it is impressive to see what it looked like presettlement. Itasca is #5 at this link.

    http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/forests_types/oldgrowth/visit.html

  28. 28
    Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls

    Did I need a sarcasm tag?

    Absolutely. You sounded like a typical Rethuglican. Poe’s Law, so if you joke, make it known.

  29. 29
    robro

    I first read the title for this post as “Now I am a mighty river.” It seemed fitting…still does. And when I googled that phrase, I got this article as the first hit. Wow!

    The food may be better at the other end, but the climate isn’t nearly as good…and I don’t mean the weather. It’s fun down in NO, but there’s a darkness to the South. I would never go again except for my mother and brother.

  30. 30
    magistramarla

    PZ, I think that I would be a lot less worried about eating the food on your end of the river. The gulf is quickly becoming the cess pool of America.
    I would love to read your take on the sinkhole that recently ate some trees in Louisiana. I read that the sinkhole originally formed after a Texas fracking company drilled into something called a salt dome in that Louisiana swamp. The piece that I read said that there is now a layer of Butane near the surface that could cause real damage if it ignites. Any thoughts?

  31. 31
    ChasCPeterson

    Mighty River

    great tune, great band.

  32. 32
    Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls

    Checked out the Google Earth picture of the site. I could see a beach on the north shore of the river, and the rock bridge/dam. Interesting.

  33. 33
    Rey Fox

    Seriously? Nobody yet?

    National Lampoon’s Vacation.

  34. 34
    ChasCPeterson

    Here’s the classic song about the Mississippi specifially:
    Big River

  35. 35
    davidgibson

    the CCC put the rocks there,in the old days the water flowed thru a swamp in about that location.
    go up stream,yes up,to Elk Lake and take out a boat and you can see the iron rich springs that feed the river.back in the 70′s you could pull off the park drive and find one of the larger springs but the drive off was closed since then.

  36. 36
    davidgibson

    PS..the marker that was at that spot for decades is now in the science museum in st paul.

  37. 37
    lpetrich

    Isaac Asimov once pointed out that if you count by length, then the longest river in North America has no official name. It’s the Missouri River + lower Mississippi River.

    Does the US have the longest river in the world? – Straight Dope Message Board

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