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They shall regret feeding my megalomania!

I’ve read some of the comments on this post by Richard Carrier, and the comments on his video, and together with all the comments I get declaring that I am the God-Emperor of Atheism+, that it’s all my idea (and that it’s an evil, awful idea), and that Freethoughtblogs has a uniformity of thought dedicated to promoting Atheist+ Purity, I’ve decided to give up and just accept the role that has been foisted on me and all of this network. So, first, I’m launching the new Atheism+ recruitment drive.

killthisdog

Next on the agenda is the coup that has long been in planning. Ed Brayton is nominally in charge of FtB, but as we all know, he’s only my puppet. It’s time for me to emerge from the shadows, depose the frontman, and seize the throne. To Rebel Is Justified! FtB will be my base of operations for world domination.

Next, I will be seizing control of the means of production and the propaganda organs of Atheism+. I understand there is a group of other people who think they are the leadership, but they are mere poseurs — the people have declared that I am the Great Leader, so we shall take care of them with a triumphant Revolution. Any recidivists will be purged in the subsequent purification. Smash the Gang of However Many They Are!

We will then begin Atheism+’s Great Leap Forward, with industrialization and collectivization of the masses to advance the cause, for Great Victory. Peasants Shall Be Workers! All Will Unite Beneath ME!

Finally, appearances will at last conform to the reality that is floating fuzzily about in the heads of our enemies.

Comments

  1. jaybee says

    .. and just what are you planning on doing with non-stamp collector’s soul now that you have stripped it from him?

  2. MarcusC says

    That is exactly what you’d say to make everyone think you aren’t in charge if you actually were. Next time you are having coffee with the Illuminati let them know it doesn’t work for them and it doesn’t work for you. Expensive coffee you paid for with the millions from Atheism+ t shirt sales.

  3. David Wilford says

    The National Lampoon would like to have the royalties for its magazine cover sent now, kthnxbye.

  4. New England Bob says

    I have a question about Atheism+

    There is a computer language C.

    Then that begot the language C++.

    Then there was the next one C#.

    Will there be an Atheism#? If so, I will wait for it.

  5. says

    Atheism Plus is a fundamentalist death cult of McCarthyite Scientologists, who are trying to force radical-feminist Marxism into atheism, just like Hitler did in Nineteen Eighty Four.

  6. chigau (please don't let me be misunderstood) says

    I hope theophontes and the Others Who Were There At The Beginning are paying attention.
    The Time Is Ripe!!!
    chigau (2ICBDFL)

    Maybe we could remove the stake from danielhaven’s heart.

  7. Chuck says

    Do not forget to trample on everyone’s free speech rights, which, as everyone knows, means the right to use FtB as a platform to say whatever they want without criticism.

    PZ == HITLER

  8. Jethro says

    @New England Bob #9

    Will there be an Atheism#? If so, I will wait for it.

    No no, the analogy is with Google+. So we’re going to focus on trying to get everyone to adopt Atheism+ by neglecting our other Atheism products or even outright discontinuing them and pointing to Atheism+ as the replacement that everyone will love.

  9. glodson says

    Is this what you liberals mean by gun control!!? And I’ll bet that’s a male dog too! Come and see the misandry inherent in the system!

  10. says

    Congratulations #10 Hyperdeath,

    I do believe you just won the internet meme bingo for the atheism wars!

    PZ you do realize you have set yourself on a collision course with the great Trans-Facist conspiracy? All your genders belong to us!

  11. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    Those pictures of you listening carefully to Ed Brayton? They don’t look at all photoshopped.

  12. Chuck says

    Adding code through FtB backchannel:

    // Thunderf00t’s sekrit plan
    IF (PZ’s post == feminist content) {
    SET angryatPZ=yes;
    FLIP your shit;
    MAKE embarrassing youtube video;
    REVEL in misogynist youtube comments;
    IF (self-esteem =0) THEN SET angryatPZ=no;
    }
    // END sekrit plan

  13. Ulysses says

    I think the wise words of Rebecca Watson would apply here: “Guys, don’t do that.”

  14. raven says

    Are we at war with Eastasia or Eurasia?

    I can never keep it straight. Although, I suppose it doesn’t much matter.

  15. =8)-DX says

    I’ve just spent the last 2 hours and about 4 overall during the day commenting on TF’s horrible Carrier video, debunking A+ claims, debunking PZ and FTB claims and debunking the video. I’m not asking for a cookie, but at least it must be aknowledged that commenting on YouTube is different from the blog format (especially the single-thread moderated blog format), and us veteran YT commenters feel the difference.

  16. freemage says

    4
    Randomfactor

    Big deal. You wouldn’t DARE offend the cat-lovers.

    This may be my favoritistist post on FtB, ever.

  17. A Hermit says

    That ended up sounding Maoist, but ThunderFool told me you and Carrier are Stalin and Hitler…

    I’m so confused….

  18. UnknownEric the Apostate says

    That ended up sounding Maoist, but ThunderFool told me you and Carrier are Stalin and Hitler…

    So who is Mussolini? Ed? Ophelia? Rebecca Watson?

  19. says

    I have a question about Atheism+

    There is a computer language C.

    Then that begot the language C++.

    Then there was the next one C#.

    Will there be an Atheism#? If so, I will wait for it.

    You want your Atheism to be a Java rip off written by Muslims?

  20. cyberCMDR says

    I vote for an Atheism#. Those like TF who don’t like the ideals of Atheism+ can be called the Not So #.

  21. shouldbeworking says

    You might frighten more of your minions of questionable loyalty if you threatened something we all love, namely a cephalopod.

  22. =8)-DX says

    @New England Bob & @vexorian
    Atheism+ is object oriented.
    Atheism# will provide a rich base library and robust garbage management.

  23. Denverly says

    It’s all Thunderfoot’s fault, what a fool he was. Now we have to spend all day computing Pi because he plugged in the overlord.

  24. =8)-DX says

    Blegh.. just spent another hour on the comments there. And I realized why comment sections are ubiquitously nasty and YT comments especially. Pages of Xtian vs Atheist debates on a anti-feminist video? DAARGH!

  25. Sili says

    All your genders belong to us!

    Are!

    Are belong to us.

    All your genders Are belong to us.

    Jesus Chips! Can noöne speak Engrish anymore?!

  26. maddmatt says

    You should wait until your dragons are larger before trying to seize the throne. Or at least hire an army of stone cold killer slaves with their junk cut off.

  27. says

    I hatez dogz. And I have a fortified palace that I am prepared to defend from attack by anyone — including squidly overlords! Bring it on! Bwahahahaha!

  28. Stacy says

    And PZ shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love him and despair!

  29. mildlymagnificent says

    Dibs on being Chief of Thought Police.

    Nah. Someone other than The Great Poopyhead needs to make some cash out of this.

    I’m going for supreme coordinating contractor to supply the pink/lavender boots for the annual march past. Also available in lavender/pink for bandleaders to organise attractively choreographed displays.

  30. grumpyoldfart says

    FtB will be my base of operations for world domination.

    You little scallywag, you.

  31. Akira MacKenzie says

    …I am the God-Emperor of Atheism+…

    I have this disturbing image in my head of an immense worm-like creature with PZ’s beard visage at the front, with Ed Brayton as his dutiful majordomo, and an army of of feminist warriors lead by a clone of Crommunist at his Beck and call.

    Siaynoq! Siaynoq, my lord!

  32. Gregory Greenwood says

    Jethro @ 13;

    No no, the analogy is with Google+. So we’re going to focus on trying to get everyone to adopt Atheism+ by neglecting our other Atheism products or even outright discontinuing them and pointing to Atheism+ as the replacement that everyone will love.

    So… when are we going to roll out AtheismGlass(TM) and pair rationality and godlessness with destroying everyone’s privacy while making people look like rejects from low budget sci fi?

  33. chigau (please don't let me be misunderstood) says

    Akira MacKenzie #49
    ooooh
    I’d buy that t-shirt!

  34. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    @ Sili

    Actually, to conform with the established grammar, it would be:

    All your gender are belong to us.

    You were using the singular form, as if only one gender was involved.

  35. Sastra says

    Well, well.

    I didn’t read Carrier’s post nor did I watch his video. I have not watched Thunderfoot’s video either and I don’t want to. It’s not that I think this topic isn’t important; it certainly is. But I focus on other stuff because that’s what I do. I don’t identify myself as Atheism+ but it certainly sounds like a great idea and I wish all the lovely smart passionate people who do engage themselves in activity involving political and social causes well. Sometimes I contribute a positive comment, sometimes I contribute a bit of money — but mostly I stay out of the whole anti-FtB argument because from what I can see Thunderfoot and his allies are wrong but I don’t have the time or inclination to wade through hundreds of posts and thousands of comments in order to either verify this opinion for myself or make a case which will convince the other side. I agree with PZ most of the time but not all of the time; I think Rebecca Watson and Ophelia Benson and other feminists are being outrageously attacked for virtually nothing; I admire the way Ed Brayton runs Freethought Blogs; and I have no plans to join Atheism Plus.

    Tldr version: Kill the dog. I don’t much like them on a personal basis: yes, they’re admirable animals and fine companion pets but they give me the creeps when they get near me. Their noses are wet.

    Go ahead. Shoot.

  36. says

    Everyone’s on board when it’s running like a Party Congress meeting, but I fear the moment when the Great Poopyhead makes all his followers enact a tentacular “Harlem Shake” parody. The shrieks will be heart-rending.

  37. Muz says

    I do wish the detractors would make up their mind on whether FTB is a fringe outlier progressively (lol) alienating itself or a potent destructive force that wields untold power over atheism’s image.

  38. Lofty says

    Hah! All your belligerence notwithstanding PZ, you will never defeat the forces of Atheismi for they are the square root of minus one and therefore cannot be reasoned with.

  39. says

    Damn you, glodson! I came specifically to make that joke, you jerk.

    I’ll just have to suffice myself with asking if I can have my own She-wolves. I have the equipment laying about my bedroom to be a perfect Athiest+ storm trooper, and I can outfit at least three more people with weapons of mass awesomeness.

    Plus, we’re REALLY behind in the personal oppression of our poor, persecuted opponents. I haven’t crushed the spirit of a man in a year or so (only consentually, of course.)

  40. Caveat Imperator says

    Aww, no fair. All the best modern dictators have been taken. Time to go back to ancient times. Can I be Diocletian or Shi Huangdi?

  41. duce7999 says

    I’d be scared of PZ if he weren’t so fuzzy, polite, and cuddly. Other than that, terrifyingly reasonable. Smooches, big guy.

  42. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Does this mean I don’t blame Rebecca Watson when something goes bad, but now I blame the Poopy-Head-in-Chief? Alright PZ, fix my now pale pink underwear, since you caused the new burgundy sheets to bleed dye….

  43. yazikus says

    The ugly result of this post was my snorting limonata sanpellegrino out of my nose in public place. It was painful & humiliating. Good preparation for my rule under the new regime? I do love the ring of Poopy Overlord.

  44. Loqi says

    Crommunist was right and we didn’t listen! Now it’s too late…

    Also, damn you, glodson! (sorry, peer pressure)

  45. generallerong says

    Whatever you’ve been drinking to deal with the snowstorm, I’ll have some, too, if you don’t mind.

  46. Lyn M: ADM MinTruthiness says

    Ooo! Ooo! Dibs on Ministry of Truth, here! I want to be the Legal and Corporate Services Officer! Failing that, I want a quango!

  47. bargearse says

    I’d look good in a commissar’s uniform, just sayin’.

    Also, thrice damned be thee Glodson (I can’t resist a good bandwagon)

  48. =8)-DX says

    My comment ranting spree on the TF comments has ended. All hail poopy-head and shoot the dog!
    (Also I got a mention in TF’s video: he posted a comment response to one of my comments under one of his vids that destroyed PZ/FTB/RW/EVILCULTISTMASTERMINDS, easy-peasy.)

  49. Loqi says

    Since we’re jockeying for positions in the new Aplusocracy, I would like to apply for the position of court jester. I’ve always wanted a job that required a silly hat, and I already failed in my bid to become pope.

  50. says

    It would give me a great excuse to stomp about in tall boots and snarl at people (certainly more license that the stomping and snarling I do while teaching, sometimes.)

    I’m sorry you’re having this kind of week, Glodson.

  51. says

    Hmmm, I wonder what PZ will do with the Slymepit when he takes over the world. Will that become the Squiddly Rehabilitation Center?

    Does PZ have a plan for how to deal with the competition? I mean Patheos may stand in the way of his world domination. They may even join forces with CFI.

    Then there’s the all important question of how a certain bunny loving co-blogger will fit into all this…

  52. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Well now you know you’ll just be overthrown.

    Definitely. The Pullet Patrol is already working on a plan to replace PZ with Patricia, Princess of Pullets. Fortunately, some well place grog soaked corn, with Patricia’s approval, makes them forget what they are discussing.

  53. Pteryxx says

    Then there’s the all important question of how a certain bunny loving co-blogger will fit into all this…

    He has to plot constantly to overthrow PZ and blame all us minions every time his plans fail. /starscream

  54. Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine" says

    THE FOUNDERS WILL BLEED!

    VOX VOX VOX

  55. says

    Then there’s the all important question of how a certain bunny loving co-blogger will fit into all this…

    He has to plot constantly to overthrow PZ and blame all us minions every time his plans fail. /starscream

    PZ Myers is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

  56. cicely (mumblemumble-SomethingHalf-Witty-mumblemumble) says

    We must all go over to the Dark Side now—before they run out of cookies!

    And PZ shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth!

    But with moar tentacles.

    I’d buy that t-shirt!

    So would I….
     
    if they’d only provide them in my size.
    -

  57. DLC says

    Hm . . . and here I was having this vision of PZ wearing dark robes with a hood pulled up to where his face is in shadows, and Ed Brayton standing there wearing a breath mask. . ..
    [cue Empire March]
    Come to the Dark Side. . . .

  58. Mattir, Another One With Boltcutters says

    I would like to be in charge of indoctrinating the youth. That way ALL the whippersnappers can be harmed as mine have been, forced to hang around online and in meatspace with the evil people of Pharyngula, made to bear gifts to Rebecca Watson, and compelled to attend nefariously loud parties at sheep festivals where they can observe Sili in a state of cynical drunkenness.

  59. Goodbye Enemy Janine says

    We are the slaves of the phony leader. Breathe the air we have blown you.

  60. chigau (please don't let me be misunderstood) says

    Lofty #57

    Hah! All your belligerence notwithstanding PZ, you will never defeat the forces of Atheismi for they are the square root of minus one and therefore cannot be reasoned with.

    This.
    This brought tears to my eyes and the beer out my nose.
    +∞ internets

  61. Theo Phontes says

    [cross-post: Carrier's blog]

    @ Thunderf99t acolytes

    For the good order, we note that Richard Carrier brought up the truly disgusting behaviour of group of misogynists (whether or not atheist, I cannot say) towards a young woman atheist on Reddit. If you wish to know more about that which is being condemned, I provide you with this link: Reddit Makes Me Hate Atheists

    This goes into some detail, so that you may make future comments fully informed of the facts underpinning that which we are discussing.

    It is this form of online abusiveness that Richard so roundly condemns. There is not much room for ambiguity, given the intensity of the online attacks. It is a case of being for or against such behaviour. Are you really suggesting that Thunderf99t is offering a third way (that is: to sit on the fence)?

    I find it especially ingenuous of His Footedness to try and Godwin the whole argument, with his Stalin and Bush variations of this jaded gambit. The closer analogy (if you will excuse me) is that of tackling commentators, Neville Chamberlain-like, for speaking out against aggressors.

    But that, I think, is granting Thunderf99t too much. There seems far too much invective behind his posts. Whatever drives him (whether or not sociopathy) is not pretty and is getting progressively worse. Do you really want to prop up his crumbling stance?

  62. glodson says

    Three people on the bandwagon?

    That’s sad. I need to work harder at being a complete bastard.

  63. Emrysmyrddin says

    Aw, alright, but only out of pity.
    .
    DAMN YOUR EYES GLODSON!!1! Alzzo your hands und toes und ze little hairs in your nozztrils zat viggle ven you schpeak. Damn zose hairs.
    .
    Any better?

  64. chigau (please don't let me be misunderstood) says

    theophontes #101
    They say it will snow tonight but I doubt it.
    But now, I’m for bed.

  65. chigau (please don't let me be misunderstood) says

    but before I go to my rest;
    golly gee, glodson, you … you … you … meanypoopybum
    [is that bad enough?]

  66. John Morales says

    [OT + meta]

    Lofty, it was also imaginary.

    (And had it been raised to itself, it’d have been transcendental, too)

  67. blf says

    The bandwagon: Ok, here’s another “damn you”. Happy now?

    As long as the paradise which results from shooting — or is it not shooting? — the dog lacks peas, I’m probably all for it. And it there is also an absence of horse, that’s even better.

    However, the mildly deranged penguin is still the Supreme Generalissimo Field Marshall Sargent Major et al. for All Eternitys of All Multiverses, including this insignificant corner somewhere in the forgotten sewers of a minor universe.

  68. thumper1990 says

    I understand there is a group of other people who think they are the leadership, but they are mere poseurs — the people have declared that I am the Great Leader, so we shall take care of them with a triumphant Revolution.

    It’s Democracy in action :)

  69. thumper1990 says

    @Glodson

    Come and see the misandry inherent in the system!

    Help help, I’m being repressed!

  70. Eurasian magpie says

    @raven

    Are we at war with Eastasia or Eurasia?

    You want to give that some veeery careful thought, o fellow-corvid…

  71. randay says

    As a longtime reader of this blog, I am very tired of hearing about what is to me pointless infighting. Over weeks or even months there seem to be more and more of these types of articles and less and less of real information. I now prefer to go to sites like The Friendly Atheist.

  72. jnorris says

    First, go kill the dog, just don’t threatened cute puppies.
    Second, no evil laughter.
    Third, no ALL CAPS no random Caps, and no exclamation points.
    Therefore: Evil Genius at its best by pretending to be an ordinary evil mastermind.

  73. Lofty says

    Someone “hears” pointless infighting? More like someone is totally blinded by priviledge and can’t help whining about stuff he could just not read if it bothered them.

  74. thumper1990 says

    WAAAh-ah-WAAAh-ah-WAAAH-ah

    Don’t worry Randay, the Waahmbulance is on it’s way.

  75. thumper1990 says

    @Eurasian Magpie

    Pharyngula, the Glorious Empire of the mighty Tentacular one, is at war with Eurasia: therefore Pharyngula has always been at war with Eurasia.

  76. chikkipop says

    I was at the AA conference where Carrier spoke. He really was as bad as I feared, and the panel on women in atheism was just as bad.

    You folks are on the wrong side in this case. Hard to believe proponents of critical thinking could do it so poorly.

    Most are probably pretty young, and don’t remember the comically bad strain of feminism that was around in the seventies, but here it has resurfaced. Observing all the new youngsters at a few conferences in recent years, I could see this was coming. Of course we needed the infusion of youth (I was involved in the conception and formation of the Campus Freethought groups in the nineties), but it comes with a price.

    “Privilege”, “mansplaining”, “you don’t get to decide…” & several other excruciatingly dumb catchphrases used to stifle dissent have reappeared, and some of the older atheists either never got it out of their system or were just young enough to have missed the first round.

    It’s great to see Carrier’s video receiving so many down votes, but there is more to do. I recall many years ago when accommodationists regularly spoke at conferences and went almost completely unchallenged; I remember asking Dawkins if he’d openly confront Gould’s “Non-overlapping magisteria” nonsense, and he was appalled at the thought of infighting. Gould was a friend, and our fight was with the creationists. Apparently, 9/11 changed things & the so-called new atheists finally began taking on all comers; poetic book titles like “Climbing Mount Improbable” gave way to blunt force declarations like “The God Delusion” and “God is Not Great”. “Science says nothing about religion” began to be met with widespread pushback.

    This will happen with the nauseating “Atheism+” flap as well. If not, that familiar chilly atmosphere common on campuses decades ago will continue to permeate atheist conferences & reduce attendance, because, in the words of one young woman with whom I spoke, “I prefer not to go places where I don’t feel safe.”

    Eye. Roll.

  77. Esteleth, the most colossal nerd on Pharyngula says

    chikkipop, your concern is noted.

    Now, fuck off.

  78. thumper1990 says

    @chikkipop

    You folks are on the wrong side in this case.

    Nope. You are. The wrong side of this, the wrong side of history.

    Hard to believe proponents of critical thinking could do it so poorly.

    Please explain how Feminism is anathema to critical thinking?

    Also, can you explain what was different between the Feminism of the seventies and it’s apparently resurfaced modern incarnation, and that of the intervening years? I’m genuinely curious.

  79. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    the comically bad strain of feminism that was around in the seventies,

    Gee, here was your chance to provide something other than your mere OPINION, which *floosh* is dismissed as irrelevant. You could have presented real evidence to back up this inane statement, showing that mainstream feminism (not just an offshoot) was that far out. But then, that requires links to the evidence, missing from your evidenceless, inane, and irrelevant post.

    Funny how when given a chance a while back to evidentially explain why they were against feminism, nothing other than OPINION expressed by those who bothered to answer.

  80. says

    I was at the AA conference where Carrier spoke.

    Are you referring to this talk? If so, could you give some examples of what exactly you had a problem with, along with time stamps on the video?
    If you do, we can then have a serious discussion about your criticisms (you know, the ones that you didn’t actually get around to mentioning), instead of this random, unsubstantiated babbling.

    In other words, if you have a point; make it. If not, shut up and go away.

  81. Mattir, Another One With Boltcutters says

    chikkipop –

    Bzzzzt! You lose. A whole lot of us are over 50 and so remember the 70s. I myself once marched on the Pentagon, finding myself right between the PLO and Puerto Rico Lesbians for Socialism. I read Mary Daly, Germaine Greer, and Andrea Dworkin before it was fashionable to roll one’s eyes at feminist excesses. I have since mellowed into a heterosexual, monogamous for 25 years marriage, produced and homeschooled (with the help of the Horde) a couple Spawns, and become a very active member of the Boy Scouts of America.

    Nice attempt at ad hominem, but “you’re young and therefore your arguments are wrong” is pretty much a fail. Better luck next time.

  82. WharGarbl says

    @Ing
    #87

    THE FOUNDERS WILL BLEED!

    VOX VOX VOX

    Ah, Bioshock Infinite.
    “Booker, are you afraid of God?” – Elizabeth
    “No, but I’m afraid of you.” – Booker
    Elizabeth, more terrifying than God.

  83. says

    This will happen with the nauseating “Atheism+” flap as well.

    Ok, fuckit already: Keep the bloody “atheist” to yourself if you want, I’ll just settle for the “+” bit.

  84. chikkipop says

    Whoo boy!

    They said this place was pretty much left to the moronic sycophants.

    So much dumbth, so little time.

    Just a reminder why a lot of us don’t stop by much. The few times I do are to see if the stupid volume has turned down a little. It’s fascinating! Some have told me they lurk in amazement, but don’t comment because of the barrage of stupid that ensues. Point taken.

    It’s so tempting to get into it with you all, but it’s like shooting fish…. I will, however, collect all these replies so I can take them to show & tell.

    Just keep watching, keep getting older & wiser, & remember what some of us said.

    Do let me know when we can all get together in person though! I’ll help organize it! The Apalachin Meeting for Atheists! Whaddya think?!

    Ok. I’ll fuck off now.

  85. Mattir, Another One With Boltcutters says

    Well you sure showed US, didn’t you, chikkipop?

    Is there an age at which I can expect this “older and wiser” stuff to kick in? I want to make sure I’m scheduling my life properly…

  86. says

    I guess asking you to be clear about what exactly you’re disagreeing with was way out of line. I repeat (with correct video link, this time):

    Are you referring to this talk? If so, could you give some examples of what exactly you had a problem with, along with time stamps on the video?

    If that’s too unreasonable for you, then I’m happy to let the lurkers judge between us.

  87. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    They said this place was pretty much left to the moronic sycophants.

    Said the moronic sycopohant of the MRA fuckwits.

    The few times I do are to see if the stupid volume has turned down a little. It’s fascinating! Some have told me they lurk in amazement, but don’t comment because of the barrage of stupid that ensues. Point taken.

    Gee, not one iota of EVIDENCE, like whose bidding you are doing, and why your inane and irrelevant OPINION should be listened to. *floosh* no evidence, your OPINION is sewage. That is what maturity, and intellectual honesty do for you. Make you ignore the loud, the young, and the fuckwitted toady.

  88. vaiyt says

    Just a reminder why a lot of us don’t stop by much.

    Protip: nobody misses you.

    It’s so tempting to get into it with you all, but it’s like shooting fish….

    Before you make such a remark, it pays to have some history of fish shootings here, or else it just sounds like empty bragging.

    The Apalachin Meeting for Atheists!

    No can do. Too far away.

  89. vaiyt says

    I just have to ask one question:

    What good is atheism for, if the “evils of religion” keep going on without it?

    What I see is a bunch of atheists actively fighting against inclusiveness, promoting the same age-old lies about gender with God’s name crossed out, gleefully cheering at injustice and bigotry, and even going so far as to invoke the persecuted hegemon myth about themselves. Looking at it from my perspective as a relative outsider to the movement’s goings, I ask all the fuckwits:

    what are you good for?

    Come on, fuckers. Sell your gods-damn product. What do you have to offer to the world? You already showed you only apply critical thinking when it’s convenient for yourselves. You invoke all the ills the religious are deplored for – misogyny, contempt for minorities, racism, homophobia, ableism, imperialism. You have the same brutish empathy-less irrationality, the same blithe disregard for your fellow humans, and the same glorification of the in-group simply by virtue of being the in-group. What advantage do you have exactly?

    This movement will be inclusive, or it will be left behind as another white man’s club for which I – and most of the world – has no use for. Then, just like all those Evangelicals who don’t understand how can someone know Jesus and not believe in him, you’ll sit in your meeting tables and wonder why aren’t more women, minorities or whatever joining you. You will conclude that they’re all stupid and leave it at that. Meanwhile, the world moves on.

    Think I’m fantasizing? I don’t need to. It’s what already happens now.

  90. Stacy says

    Just a reminder why a lot of us don’t stop by much. The few times I do are to see if the stupid volume has turned down a little.

    chikkipop, stupid is saying “you guys are stupid, and so were feminists in the 70s!”–with no substantive argument whatsoever–and expecting critical thinkers to take you even a teensy bit seriously.

    Doing it on a thread devoted to joking, that’s just assholish.

    So long, Buttercup. Thanks for stopping by.

  91. Stacy says

    @vaiyt

    It’s so tempting to get into it with you all, but it’s like shooting fish….

    Before you make such a remark, it pays to have some history of fish shootings..

    I’d totes show Stephen Hawking for the intellectual lightweight he is, but it would be too easy, and I’ve got better things to do.

  92. says

    I was just cleaning out the spam filter, and would you believe Reap Paden was trying yet another pseudonym (sc_7fcd816dc7d5c9e72c65516e9f1f590e) in his efforts to post here? No joy for him though, he’s so predictable the trap caught him.

    I’ve now lost track of how many different accounts he’s created to try and sneak past the ban — somewhere above 30. He’s nowhere near the record holder (Mabus), but still…impressively pathetic.

  93. chigau (please don't let me be misunderstood) says

    Who is this Reap Paden clown, anyway?
    He doesn’t even have a Wikipedia article.

  94. says

    Chikkipop:
    I see you ignored the people who asked you to back up your claims. They made an attempt to engage you, which you snubbed. You do not seem interested in talking, and you don’t like it here, so why not go play with the other anti-feminists and TF. No need to return.

  95. says

    Aww! I missed a condescending (and laughably sad) attempt at one day you’ll grow up? Well shit.

    Here I was, lining up a “hey kids, get off my lawn.” I was even going to shake my fist.

  96. Sili says

    Sili is a very very bad example.

    Now, what have I done?

    (I’m always cynical. Drinking makes me positively jolly.)

  97. UnknownEric the Apostate says

    Aww! I missed a condescending (and laughably sad) attempt at one day you’ll grow up? Well shit.

    I find that amusing as well, since the older I get, the further and further I move to the left.

  98. great1american1satan says

    vaiyt@137 – Damn, that was bad-ass. Seriously, Tfool needs to stick those paragraphs in his mouth and chew really good. More than AronRa or other youtube atheists, his videos tended to fall back on the rhetorical device of “how much better the world would be without X”… Now he’s showing us what his kind of world would be like, and it’s not very fucking appealing to the oppressed or anyone who cares about them.

    Eric – Older and leftier than ever before, with my bal’ head. Word up.

    PZ @140, thanks for letting us know! That warms my heart.

  99. mildlymagnificent says

    chikkipop

    Most are probably pretty young, and don’t remember the comically bad strain of feminism that was around in the seventies,

    crystonnabicycle – I’m probably older than you. I was one of those 70s feminists. Read the books, went to the boring meetings, marched along the streets, did my best. I also have managed to be married for 35 years and have a couple of kids grow up. Did my best with marriage and family too.

    Funnily enough, I’m just as feminist, just as pinkocommieleftie as I ever was. I see the new generation(s) of feminists, along with my daughters, benefiting from my generation’s work but still needing to fight just as much with the stakes just as high as they ever were.

    Why? Because I see dopey remarks like yours as not at all distant echoes of the exact. same. rubbish. that men spouted at me 40+ years ago.

  100. davehooke says

    Phase One: Implement RW’s will: Ban all men not in Atheism+ from taking the elevator. They will drop like flies!