This is the lounge. You can discuss anything you want, but you will do it kindly. The baby hippo is wondering why it took me so long to put him on the page.
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Feb 14 2013
Feb 14 2013
This is the lounge. You can discuss anything you want, but you will do it kindly. The baby hippo is wondering why it took me so long to put him on the page.
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Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 6:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Only problem with baby hippos is they grow up to be adult hippos. Adult hippos are the most dangerous animal in the world.
rorschach
14 February 2013 at 6:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Geez, portcullised! Try this again(for the night owls)
Christina Perri – Arms live in San Diego
Christina Perri – Sad Song live in London
Christina Perri – Jar of Hearts live in Jakarta
Tigger_the_Wing, Melanin Deficient
14 February 2013 at 6:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Damn. Portcullised and for the first time in ages I didn’t copy the comment before sending. :(
carlie
14 February 2013 at 6:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rorschach – I’ve been hoping you weren’t ignoring us on purpose. :)
Ah yes, the store tantrum. Either you’re spoiling the child by trying to make the tantrum stop, or you’re being a bad person by making other people listen to them cry. And then there’s the fun of “Yes, our child is screaming his head off. We are just starting to understand it is some kind of sensory overload or unmet expectations meltdown. It will be a few years yet before we get a diagnosis, and in the meantime it’s totally trial and error figuring out what causes these thing to happen because right now it appears random to us. All we know is that we’re now in for at least another hour and a half of this before he falls asleep in exhaustion no matter what we do for him at this point, and any plans we had for the rest of the day are now scuttled. So sorry for the five minutes you heard him across the aisle before we gave up and walked out the door on the way to the rest of our completely wrecked day.”
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 6:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Squeeeeee
I adore hippos (with a safety distance or behind the fence of a zoo)
Katherine
You mean mammal, right? Because mosquitoes are silent killers…
Tigger_the_Wing, Melanin Deficient
14 February 2013 at 6:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I hope your illness wasn’t anything serious, rorschach?
rq
14 February 2013 at 6:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
But my goodness look at those little wrinkles!!!!! *swoon*
rq
14 February 2013 at 6:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rorshach
Feel even better soon!
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 6:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tigger
Just try the return button on your browser, usually it’s still in the cache
I know because I have a habbit of typing a comment, previewing it, then forgetting to post it only to go looking for my comment an hour later…
rorschach
14 February 2013 at 6:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This! (Luckily, mine did never do that, he gets his periods of unhappiness when the financial portcullis comes down in Toys’R”Us, but I’ve brought him up with the 2-toy rule, so he knows what the go is, and we have never had any major meltdown). I think kids do well with clear rules that are consequently enforced. Mixed signals is the path to the dark side.
rq
14 February 2013 at 6:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Giliell
But that works only if you’ve previewed, right? If I go right to Post, then I lose the comment (in my experience, at least).
rq
14 February 2013 at 6:18 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
All my other socks come in pairs. Why won’t the blue ones? /unpacking
Tigger_the_Wing, Melanin Deficient
14 February 2013 at 6:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
There are usually only two reasons for a child to be making a fuss: distress, in which case the parent/carer is already doing everything they can to mitigate it; and naughtiness, in which case ignoring the behaviour is the only way to prevent a repeat performance the next time they go shopping.
I find that a wry smile and “I remember that stage. It does get better!” often helps the poor harrassed parent and me, as well. They no longer feel that everyone in the shop is hostile, and I feel good for cheering someone up a bit. Occasionally, just a quick word/pulling a silly face to the child is enough of a distraction that it short-circuits the process and they turn the noise down or off. Bliss!
I do understand the distress the sound makes; in a supermarket my autistic brain is already at the end of its tether from trying to cope with flickering and buzzing lights, hideous piped ‘music’ and aisles that are cluttered with stuff making them too narrow for the wheelchair trolley (wider than standard trolleys to accomodate the wheelchair). Have you ever tried reversing up an aisle with one?! Ugh…
But the noise isn’t aimed at me, so I just have to bear it. It’s worse for the parent in charge, believe me!
Tigger_the_Wing, Melanin Deficient
14 February 2013 at 6:23 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I did preview, but the cache had been updated.
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 6:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq
Hmm, don’t know, I’m trying now….
No, still works. I typed the above, went to Thunderdome, used the back-button and it was still there
carlie
Oh damn. Those tantrums are exhausting even with a neurotypical child.
Seriously, does anybody believe that parents enjoy that shit? We’d rather just go shopping.
But yeah, rules and training and credible consequences. It makes it already almost enjoyable taking them to the shopping centre because by now the worst hazzard is unexpected needs to pee when you’re at the maximum distance from the toilet. They know there will be ice-cream in the end, but only if I’m not totally freaking out already anyway. And #1 knows that for usual shopping “I will take you by the hand and only let you go when we’re at the car” is going to happen. Even though that might mistreat other customers because she starts to cry. Would they rather have her push the trolley into their legs?
+++
So, off to exam now, wish me luck
Tigger_the_Wing, Melanin Deficient
14 February 2013 at 6:27 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I was feeling really fed up with this fever, and the accompanying sweating; then reminded myself how much better sweating is, than having a heart that doesn’t pump properly so I couldn’t sweat. I’m feeling better about it now. =^_^=
Tigger_the_Wing, Melanin Deficient
14 February 2013 at 6:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good luck, Giliell!
rq
14 February 2013 at 6:36 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good luck, Giliell!
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 6:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
WMDKitty from last thread: The commentariat is why I stopped writing for Friendly Atheist. It was just too annoying. But then, no one has ever accused me of being an accommodationist.
Parrowing:
Oh, fun! Glad to help :)
Tigger and rq:
Lots of hot tea and heating pads. Feel better!
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 6:56 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good luck, Giliell!
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 7:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good luck Giliell!
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 7:02 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
You wrote over there? Hmm, I guess I stopped reading before then. And I stopped reading for the same reason you stopped writing.
*
Good luck, Giliell!
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 7:03 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, Hemant required that I write using my real name. I quit maybe a year ago after a few months of near-fatal eye rolls.
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 7:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Been there, done that. With Boy. The bad news for us? It took years to figure out what was going on and get treatment. The good news? He did grow out of it. In high school. And he is now a senior heading for a BA in history. Hugs to Carlie.
–
Threadrupt.
Waiting for the shoe to drop.
Sick.
Going to make turkey pot pie for dinner (brined turkey breast and veggies (yes, there will be peas!) and Pillsbury pizza dough for the crust).
Owlglass
14 February 2013 at 7:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good look to you!
I’d like to share this totally adorable video. You won’t click on my stuff, because you think it’s something offsetting, but that’s the lounge and you really should. Take a tea, or coffee and stick through it. :)
the Scared is scared.
Owlglass
14 February 2013 at 7:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ups..good luck *blush*
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 7:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
That’s very strange. Seems like there would be a lot of potential writers who would not be able to use their real names. I considered applying when he put out the call. Kind of glad I didn’t (not that I think he would have picked me).
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 7:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing:
I suppose you’re right, but *shrug* that’s how he wanted it, for whatever reason. I also may not be cut out to have my words picked apart by every asshole with a keyboard. *moarshrugs*
You have a great voice, I’m sure you would have been great at it. :)
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 7:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Horde, I made you a Valentine.
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 7:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, Portia :). I tried the blogging about atheism thing but found out that I didn’t have much to say after a little while. I am also unsure whether I can handle being picked apart to that degree… but I guess I better be prepared if I ever do actually get something published. *sigh*
Cannabinaceae
14 February 2013 at 7:43 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My main problem with writing about “issues” in an online setting is the large number of folks who think that the only way to interact with such prose is adversarial.
My suspicion is that such folk tend to feel like they “win” “arguments” because most of the adversarial conversations they get into end up with their adversary simply giving up against the unending onslaught of pick-pick-pick non sequiturs, and they want to keep repeating that “winning” feeling.
My sincerity leads me to devote too much time addressing their nonsensical claptrap, and I end up feeling extremely upset when there is no evidence that I am “getting through” in any noticeable way.
Thus, I mainly only speak of matters of taste (in particular food and beer), about which I don’t care whether somebody disagrees with me, thus relieving me of the “becoming upset” burden. I admire the commentariat here who do not share my weakness.
For example, I think that the pot pie is an excellent vehicle for peas.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 7:53 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing:
Yeah, the format of FA is good for keeping it going because a lot of it is commentary on news and current events.
Cannabinaceae:
I think you might be right about that. I got particularly annoyed over there because I’d right something about a woman Republican and of course someone would comment about her looks, and no one but me would give half a damn. : p
Your feelings about argumentation are exactly what I was going through yesterday with the asshole on facebook. I tend to get frustrated and upset, too. Especially with people who are treating basic human rights (mine, natch) like an academic exercise.
Anyway…I agrees about peas and pot pie.
Now join me in a *duck and cover* maneuver!
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 7:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Meant to say in my last comment (can’t help posting followups, lately)
Parrowing:
Sorry if I’ve missed it before, but is getting published something you’re working towards? I think that’s really cool.
Ogvorbis:
*hot tea* for you too. Feel better : /
dianne
14 February 2013 at 7:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tantrums: Seeing a small child having a tantrum terrifies me. Not because I can’t stand to hear a small child scream for 5 minutes, but because I worry that the parent will lose it and start beating or emotionally abusing the child. I try to smile at the parent and say something reassuring on the grounds that that will lessen the tension and make the parent feel better, which may also decrease the risk of them attacking the kid. The kid, of course, is not going to feel better until he/she is ready to and sometimes there’s just not much you can do about that.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 7:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good morning Vietn— what? Not doing that anymore? OK…
Last Lounge shopping thing: I don’t understand old people shopping. All that picking up and touching and staring and picking up again and shaking and turning over and knocking and picking up AGAIN. The way I see it, life is fucking short. 30-40 years from now, life will be REALLY short. I don’t plan on spending a whole lot of what time is left agonizing over bags of flour or packages of chicken breasts.
The Mellow Monkey
14 February 2013 at 7:57 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cannabunaceae
QFT
The bizarre thing is that the adversarial approach is actually applied to everything. You shared a picture of a diaper cake on your blog? “OMG U ASSHOLE”. You posted a recipe? “HOW DARE YOU USE A MICROWAVE.”
I used to blog about LGBTQIA issues, but stopped years ago. Even today, I still get hate mail about how I must be a homophobe for criticizing celebrities who exploit queer identity. I know I have some really stupid reviews on Amazon and Goodreads for my books, but those aren’t my site, so I can ignore them. The last stupid one I read was complaining about how a book was in a series and so the reader would have to read multiple books just to find out what happened. Quel horreur!
Actually getting that idiocy on a daily basis on stuff that genuinely matters would be maddening.
The Mellow Monkey
14 February 2013 at 8:02 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lest anyone should think I made up the diaper cake example.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 8:02 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
well, seriously. A microwave?
/ducks
thunk, new years, new dreams
14 February 2013 at 8:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
speaking of blogging, I should start.
But not real-name-wise, that would get me in a tricky situation.
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 8:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi there
Still in the exam room waiting for the whole thing to finish. Yes I have already handed in my paper. But we need Top wait until time is up. Apart from the overgrown toddler who screamed “you cant make me stay!!!!” everybody got it. And I think I passed
thunk, new years, new dreams
14 February 2013 at 8:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m with dianne on this one. Yes, tantrums can be maddening. But they are not really something one can stop at short notice. And that can be frustrating, that’s entirely understandable. So *hugs and kittens or other cute things of choice* for both carlie and Spawn.
Nepenthe
14 February 2013 at 8:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Set: 53 s Brain set to off. “Found” the same set 3 times.
Pot pie and peas are wonderful.
thunk, new years, new dreams
14 February 2013 at 8:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
set: 1 min, 25 sec. That’s progress!
Owlglass
14 February 2013 at 8:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I see where you are coming from, and I am often guilty of being antagonistic, but can as well relate to facing an onslaught of nitpickery and quote mining in certain places *cough*. That’s the unpleasant side effect when playing a foil. However, what many people may not know is that (some) people actually learn by picking a stance and seeing how it fares, without necessarily being totally invested into the idea. I would only consider it wrong, when this goes “too far” which is difficult to cast into a rule. Like, when the counter argument are entirely vapid, or when the main load is clearly in the insults.
· · ·
One of the reason for throwing oneself into these situation is of course learning the human aspects of some idea. Putting them into practice. What is really important to people becomes not apparent in academic writing, but where people put priority, what they keep bringing up, and how they defend it. Sometimes you need to summon the best arguments to have something to think about. The line between tought provoking, provoking and trolling can be really thin when the whole idea of a place is actually build around debate (we aren’t in a church setting where we accept dogma and everything someone writes).
· · ·
There are also a couple of learning patterns that are about playful confrontation–play generally often is. Playfulness is key, but many people alas seem to have no sense for it. And some personality types, academcially secured or not (yet, at least), seem to lean towards certain behavior, such as “lawyer style” approaches of learning. We all learn by a not-that-different-method when we are children. We just aren’t able to deliberately take over a stance presented to us, but just copy what’s there and see how it does. We abandon it, when it turns out impractical. And that’s what schoolbook bulimia style learning does wrong. It never shows us how the ideas actually work out, we are expected to eat and regurgitate them. They remain dry theory. Isn’t it the case that many hone their knowledge and skills on, say, Atheism, by seeing the ideas exposed to a hostile environment, where some wither away and die, and some others survive quite well, and evolve.
· · ·
Democracy is fueled by dispute. The old socratic method is fuled by opposition. The advocadus diaboli approach was based on it, too. These are reputable examples. It is too easy to dismiss it all as about taking an opposing stance for the sake of “winning” some argument. And as you see, I know have provided an antagonistic stance towards your claims. Was it that bad?
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 8:40 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sweet! Congrats.
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 8:41 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
I get frustrated and upset (and self-hatey :( ) also, which is why I so far have only ventured out of the Lounge a liiiiiittle bit. I’m working on it.
And yes, I am a
n aspiringwriter. I’m in the middle of a book and head-planning a second one, not to mention all of the other writing projects that I’ve thought about doing but will probably end up forgetting about. This depression thingy has gotten in the way, though. It might really be time for me to do something about it.*
Does anyone else like to watch Let’s Plays on YouTube? I enjoy it, but there are so few gamers that I can trust to not be sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. I really dislike FPSs and other violence heavy games but other than that, I’m open to new games. Do any of you have any recommendations for non-bigoty Let’s Players? (I’m especially interested in Minecraft, Civ 5, Don’t Starve, Scribblenauts, Viva Piñata (yes, I have a weird taste in games, sorry))
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 8:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing
There’s no obligation to engage in arguments that aren’t good for your emotional well-being. Take the steps you’re comfortable with :)
I think it’s really cool that you are a writer. I’ve written a little bit here and there, but man, even thinking about writing a whole book…is beyond me. I applaud you. I’d love to hear about your writing if you’d like to talk about it.
Depression sucks. Doing something about it is a great idea. Do you have the resources to get into therapy?
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 8:47 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I should say: Doing something about it if you are able is a good idea. Don’t want to add pressure to the pile of crap that is depression.
chigau (違う)
14 February 2013 at 8:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I hope everyone has a really *awesome* day.
Muse
14 February 2013 at 8:53 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Posting for onion girl.
I’m trying to get information on research about children’s rights to refuse visitation with their parents, particularly in cases of domestic violence, abuse, mental illness, etc–in other words, all the situations that bring parents into the supervised visitation setting. Our court is coming out as very opposed to the idea that children have the right to refuse to visit, based on the belief that the majority of children who refuse visits with their parents are victims of parental alienation syndrome (which I’m getting a lot of conflicting viewpoints on as far as validity) or are being coached by the custodial parent. I’m having trouble finding good articles just using Google Scholar. Are there any academics out there able to find better information?
She can be reached at oniongirlsays at google’s email service.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 8:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
chigau
I hope you do, too, against the odds of the gubmint work : p
Muse
I’ll give it some thought/a look and email oniongirl if I come across anything. Is this a US-centric question?
rq
14 February 2013 at 8:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I have a bit of an envy spot for all those aspiring writers (looking at you, Parrowing and Katherine and anyone else actually writing…) out there brave enough to actually write. I can’t seem to find my guts when it comes to publicly* showing my work (such as it is, lately).
*Letting my sister read it from time to time is not ‘publicly’. ;)
Owlglass
14 February 2013 at 8:56 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing, don’t read it, when you can’t swallow it. /////// depression is rather serious and can be deadly. It is strongly suggested around here (with campaigns and such) that people should not take it lightly at all, just because society thinks its “having a bad mood”. Go see a doctor! Unfortunately, I have no idea how your medical system works and if you are covered and such. In that case, I strongly advice to tell a trusted person and ask them to keep an eye out on you.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 8:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Parrowing:
You can watch CeilingNinja’s LPs. He’s a pretty cool dude (oh wait… that’s me, and I haven’t updated in a long time.)
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 9:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So…
Remember a few days ago when I grumped about my doctor visit that turned into “wait for the nurse for 2 hours”?
So, as instructed, I called and scheduled my procedure date. This convo went like this:
Them: Hello, [Practice], can I help?
Me: I’m looking for [name].
Them: Speaking.
Me: I need to schedule a procedure date.
Them: Okay. Your name?
Me: [Name].
Them: Oh! Well, let’s get you scheduled right away.
Note: there was none of the usual “hold on, let me pull your file up, can you spell that, etc”
Them: So, there are openings [time], [time], and [time].
Me: [Time] will be fine.
Them: Okay, you’re scheduled for [time]. And procedure dates very rarely run late! You should be fine.
Me: Okay, thank you.
Them: [Reviews procedure-day info]
[Conversation ends]
Meep? I appear to have made a splash?
strange gods before me ॐ
14 February 2013 at 9:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Owlglass,
Stop trolling the lounge.
dianne
14 February 2013 at 9:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth: They feel guilty about making you wait for an hour or more for a 5 minute preop visit and are trying to make up for it or show that that doesn’t always happen.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 9:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I guess, Dianne. I just feel self-conscious, I guess?
Owlglass
14 February 2013 at 9:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@56, strange gods before me ॐ
What exactly is trolling about that one? To be sure, I won’t engage in a debate about this, because I actually don’t want to troll, just like to read your reasoning in the ONE attempt you have. And don’t smear, which would be unfair.
carlie
14 February 2013 at 9:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks – we’re starting teenage years now, so we’re past the tantrum in the store phase, into the wondering what he’ll do after high school phase. I have much empathy for people with screaming kids in a store. But I’m with dianne – I’d much rather see a kid a bit out of control even than see one getting berated and hit by their parent.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 9:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I HAZ AN INTERVIEW
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 9:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Owlglass, go (back) to the ‘Dome, please.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 9:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’d call you intentionally obtuse, but this is the lounge.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 9:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Portia:
Yay!!!
—
Oh hey, Kitty news!
Snip’s “sample” was clean. Toc, on the other hand, appears to be an asymptomatic giardia carrier. Which MAY explain why Snip was sick last week.
I’m gonna have to look into an automatic litter pan.
broboxley OT
14 February 2013 at 9:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia, bon chance on the interview, sounds from the response that the gig is interesting
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 9:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, Katherine and broboxley.
Also, hey broboxley, haven’t seen you in a while!
The gig is interesting, as it’s what I spent most of law school trying to be. It’s a prosecutor job. The main appeal at this point (after having “taken the red pill” and understanding why people call it the Injustice system) is the loan forgiveness and the health benefits.
Anyway. I’m giddy.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 9:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yay Portia!
Esteleth, I think you made an impression!
Kids in stores screaming/misbehaving: I expect parents to DO SOMETHING. I understand that options are limited, but there’s a difference between doing what little you can and just doing nothing. I expect that kids will not be allowed to run loose, and that if a kid is crying or screaming the parent will at least talk to the little brat. And if both parents are there, I expect one parent to remove the child from the store. Hell, when I was growing up my brother pitched a fit and got yanked out of DISNEY WORLD! and had to stay in the parking lot.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 9:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth:
Yay for good service (finally)
Katherine:
Yay for healthy Snip?
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 9:40 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hooray for a healthy (or healthier) Snip!
broboxley OT
14 February 2013 at 9:41 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia, yea I needed a break for a while. Prosecutoring can be interesting. Hardest part is remain impartial.
Spoke with one the other day about a warrantless blood draw on a family member. He smirked and said that the officer had noted that permission had been granted and that people would believe his sober cop. I had to remind him that sloppy police work on a misdemeanor leads to sloppy police work on major felonies and he may lose an important case because of that. He wasn’t impressed. He may be more impressed when he finds out that the officer in question hasn’t been with the department for the past year. No witness no case
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 9:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So, home, sweet home.
Do I first empty out the dishwasher or do I first hang up the laundry?
Such wonderful choices!
But I got Valentines from my children, which fits right into my plan of
world dominationturning the unbearable Valenine’s Day of forced consuption of ugly things in a heteronormative sexual way shaming everybody else into the wonderful Valentine’s Day when people express their love and affection to those around.iJoe
I agree with you when the behaviour is “running wild”. But when it’s throwing a tantrum the “ignoring shit as well as you can” IS doing something
Portia
Yay!
And Yay for Snip
+++
Sooo, Parrowing is a writer, too. So I can start a new endeavour: Fill a bookshelf with books written by Pharyngulites.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 9:56 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Giliell:
I like your Valentine’s day, that’s the sort I’ve always enjoyed :)
I got Valentines from my 8 year old niece yesterday. She included notes for S and his two “cids” as well. Very cute.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 10:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, glad you’re back broboxley.
Couldn’t they have the former officer testify? Or you mean he wasn’t a cop when he made the arrest? Anyway, the office I’ve applied to has a reputation, for better or worse, of being more lenient. So I hope I wouldn’t have to many tough decisions wrt advocating for outcomes I think are too harsh.
Dionysis
14 February 2013 at 10:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing.
I get depressed from time to time and found this article interesting although it doesn’t offer any cures. I hope it helps you. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions-evolutionary
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 10:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Re: depression: (TRIGGER WARNING for possibly too in depth description of depression. I don’t know if this will be a problem for anyone, but I don’t want to take any chances)
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Thanks for the kind words. Being in a country that has socialized medicine, I can afford to seek treatment. It’s been difficult working out the other factors. I am not used to how things work where I am living now and unfortunately have not been introduced to the system in a way that has encouraged trust. I have a few friends here who receive treatment for depression, anxiety, etc. and they don’t seem to have had very good experiences. I’ve sort of convinced myself that it would never work for me as I’m not used to the way things work here and would feel very put off by it, though I realize that I have a skewed perspective of “the way things work” here. I’m leaning more towards going the private route, which would obviously be more expensive and possibly not doable.
I have learned Swedish(ish) but it is still difficult for me to know where to look for things here. I don’t know what keywords I should use to find what I’m looking for and living in a small town severely reduces my options, especially since I can’t really afford transportation and am scared of transportation. I also have certain requirements for any therapist I visit, the biggest being that they speak English (I know, I know, I’m a privileged immigrant whose first language is catered to in a country that speaks a different language). I realized that if it were left up to me, it would never get done, so at my request my husband has taken the lead in looking for acceptable treatment. It’s slow going, but it’s going.
Probably the biggest issue I have is that of self harm and suicide ideation. The instances of self harm have decreased in frequency, but I find it very difficult to care about dealing with this. Just to be clear, I am not particularly low at the moment and not experiencing these feelings currently. I also have never had the motivation to do something that I can’t undo. I have read the wiki that sgbm has linked to a few times and it makes me happy :).
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Thank you, Katherine. I subscribed, just in case you decide to make more :) (And I’ll watch the older videos!). I’m sorry to hear about Toc but glad Snip had a clean sample.
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Re: writing
Thank you Portia and rq. To be clear, I am absolutely in awe of the things you both (and other people in the Lounge) have talked about doing.
At this point, I don’t know if it can be said that I share my work publicly. I did blog but that slowed down to almost nothing a while ago. Showing my book to my mom and husband cannot be said to be public ;)
I don’t mind talking about my writing but I had a little idea…. would either of you or anyone else be interested in doing a writing group? We could send little bits to each other for feedback (friendly feedback!). It doesn’t have to be very organized or take up too much time, but just something to get us sharing our work a little bit wider?
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Congratulations, Portia, on the interview!!!! And thank you for the lawyerly Valentine :D
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I think that if I ever get published, Giliell and a buncha other Lounge peeps are getting free copies for helping me through it.
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Aaaaaaaaand submit comment!
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 10:23 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ok this is not an earth shaking issue, in fact it’s fairly petty.
that however will not stop me from raging about it.
just went to get a cup of shitty coffee here in the office and the coffee pot has only 1/2 a cm of coffee
And is left on the burner
yet, the thoughtful person decided to turn the burner off
which is a nice thought
though
MAKING A NEW FUCKING POT OF COFFEE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER.
Seriously the fact this person knew leaving a 1/2 cm of coffee on a burner would be bad didn’t trigger the make new pot of coffee thought. Instead it triggered the what’s the least amount of effort I can put forth and not feel like an asshole thought.
The coffee here is in pre-measured bags and the filers are sitting right there next to the machine. It takes even a slow moving person less than 1 minute to start a new pot.
/officerage
/tpsreports
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
14 February 2013 at 10:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Katherine @1:
Hippos are? Why is that?
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Mellow Monkey:
Drat. Clicked on your link. Physio Prof was the only FtB blogger I haven’t checked out and saw no reason to.
That said, some of those comments were ridiculous. I thought his initial post was sarcastic, while some saw it as serious. Either way, a diaper cake seems unorthodox, but to get bent out of shape over it like some did…? Sheesh.
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Portia:
I will be crossing all fingers and toes for you. Good luck.
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I swear, I can go months, even a year without meeting anyone. No rhyme or reason. Then all of a sudden, they pop out of the woodwork. In the last two months, I have encountered 7 guys. Of them, 5 were online. 2 were IRL. One was the amazing sex last week. 1 is A, who I mentioned beforre (we still haven’t had a chance to go on a date; were supposed to yesterday, but he did not want to drive in the deluge). One was W, from ND, and that fell apart on both ends (that switching to Islam and it becoming such a dominant aspect of his day to day life was bound to be contentious in time). The others just never got off the ground. Now there is a new one!
This guy, J is 38 (yah on being closer in age to me…too many of the guys I have chatted with recently are in their 20s…nothing wrong with that per se, but our perspectives on many things were quite different), a director at a local college, was in the military, is physically active (big plus here bc common area of interest) and, in a first, not only does he live in town, not only does he live close by me, he lives in the subdivision adjacent to mine! I went to his home last night and we met and watched Caught on Camera for a short time. It was pleasant. So was he. He agreed to a date on Sunday. I think I made an impression. He texted me an hour after I left, saying he was wide awake in bed. Mind you, this was 1 am and he wakes at 530 am for work. He said he couldn’t sleep for some reason.
(We both were amused as I went to leave. He has to stand on his toes to kiss me, as he is 5″6, and I am 6″. So I just crouched down so he wouldn’t have to be off balance.)
sheila
14 February 2013 at 10:26 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Please excuse the complete change of subject, but a British national newspaper ran a travel article about the island I live on, and mentioned my book right at the end. So I’m jumping up and down and going, “Squee!”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/sunandsea/9867981/La-Palma-guide-the-forgotten-Canary-Island.html
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 10:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Tony:
First entry.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 10:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Tony:
First entry: Cracked article.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
14 February 2013 at 10:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Katherine:
Your link is borked. I get a big white page.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 10:41 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
DC Comics Under Fire for Hiring Anti-Gay Author Orson Scott Card to Write Superman.
We’ve discussed Orson Scott Card before. He wrote some kind of okay, entertaining books. He exposed more than a few of his Moments of Mormon Madness in some of his writings … and then he got worse as he aged.
Now this rabidly anti-gay mormon has been hired by DC Comics. Bleh.
Excerpt from the story in WIRED:
There’s a petition you can sign: https://www.allout.org/en/actions/dccomics-osc
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 10:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks for the well wishes, everyone!
Tony:
You’re on a roll! Good for you!
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 10:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Katherine’s link worked for me.
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Thank you, Dionysis, I will take a look at the article.
sheila
14 February 2013 at 10:43 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Parrowing, Hang on in there. Depression is grim, but there are things which help. Good luck.
@Portia, good luck with the job.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 10:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, sheila, and congrats to you!
I have taken my junky car out to retrieve my uncle’s jump pack to jumpstart my non-junkycar’s battery, which is apparently junky. More distraction from work, perfect! : /
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 10:46 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rev, I made a pot of coffee over here, have a cup.
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 10:47 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing
Hugs. I know how fucking difficult it is to start on mental healthcare when it’s just a phonecall away. Lots of sympathies for your situation.
Tony
It doesn’t rain but it pours.
RBDC
Well, I met people who were genuinly unaware of how you make coffee.
Also, when I lived in Cuba we needed to get our water from a cistern and carry it up 2 stairs. Usually it worked by “water is empty, person who notices calls a couple of people and carries water for 5 min”. Only that it worked in a way that after a week some folks when asked to help went “where do you get the water?”
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 10:53 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I forgot most of what I’ve read today, so just a couple of things:
Cerberus,
I’m really sorry about your bosses setting you up, and about the possibility of losing your job.
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Portia,
Good luck with the interview.
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Could we be done with blah days? I feel that I’m getting deeper into the depression pit again, together with bits of paranoia/anxiety or whatever to fucking to call it when you see people talking and you immediately fear they are talking and laughing about you, that an innocuous remark was probably sarcasm aimed at your stupidity, omg everyone
thinksrealized I’m an idiot and they will now act like it and I’m stupid and I shouldn’t be allowed to interact with people or live …. that kind of thing.Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 10:56 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pressed submit instead of preview, but that’s pretty much what I wanted to write. Sorry for dumping it on you, I’m going out for a couple of hours, but I’m angry at myself so typing it all let me get rid of a little part of the burden, of some of the anger.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 11:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rev BDC *76:
Advice you probably don’t need: Do not visit the town of Rexburg, Idaho. I have a friend who was on the advisory committee for that little city’s tourist board. The board’s stated purpose was to bring more tourists to stay there, and not just pass through on their way to Yellowstone NP or to the Tetons, etc. My friend suggested that they could start by offering coffee at the early morning meetings and not just cheap, sugary soda from SAM’s Club. They could be more welcoming to non-mormon people.
Stunned silence. Followed by a careful explanation that they don’t believe in drinking coffee, that almost no one in town serves coffee.
My friend decided they could not be helped. Rexburg attracts more than 10,000 BYU-I students per year, they’ll have to be satisfied with that as an economic boost.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 11:03 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I have been accused of mild, ok strong, pessimism towards my fellow humans but I have a hard time believing anyone here who drinks coffee is unaware of the relationship between the bags of coffee which are blatantly marked as such and are in a very close proximity to the coffee machine, the coffee filters, also marked as such and in close proximity, and the coffee brewing device which if they drink coffee they have to have had some form of one on one contact. Plus adding the fact that they knew enough to turn off the burner makes me think they knew exactly what they were doing.
Though I have seen some fantastic acts of stupidity by a few of my coworkers in the past, so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.
Really though I think this is a matter of pure intentional laziness.
/rant
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Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 11:04 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lotsahugs to Beatrice and Parrowing
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 11:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, like many before and after me I’ve been through Rexburg. And story that makes perfect sense.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 11:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Okay to dump, Beatrice. We can take it. I personally do not think you are stupid. You do not have to be perfect to fit into the non-stupid category.
Allow me to dump my own psychological difficulty. I had a nightmare in which Karl Rove played a large part. The effect of this horror has carried over into my waking hours. It’s kind of funny, but still bad. I’m having a hard time shaking off Karl Rove. I need an antidote.
Change of topic: is David Marjanović in Paris? My daughter is visiting Paris the second week in May and I am hoping to link her to a few intelligent, knowledgeable locals. She is traveling with her husband and expects to do a lot of touristy stuff, but is also wanting some insider tips. She knows a bit about Pharyngula and holds many of regulars in high regard.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 11:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I normally bypass Rexburg, or drive through without stopping, but my brother and I did present an Art Meets Adventure (TM) show for the university’s art department once. I started to speak after the auditorium doors were closed, only to be stopped by the professor. He led everyone in prayer. Apparently the class always starts with a prayer.
I was in self-editing more for the whole presentation, tying hard to edit out even the mildest swear words.
The students were nice, but weird. Alien.
broboxley OT
14 February 2013 at 11:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
anybody still in Fargo? If so is the Dakotas oil boom affecting housing? Just had a call for a 6 month contract there
strange gods before me ॐ
14 February 2013 at 11:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Orson Scott Card isn’t even that good of a writer.
An internet walkabout led me to http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2010/09/03/comic-book-legends-revealed-276/
I suppose “champion of equal rights” and “fighter against the forces of hate and prejudice” had to be expunged for the Cold War, since that’s commie talk.
mythbri
14 February 2013 at 11:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Tony
Regarding the danger of hippos:
From the Wikipedia page on hippos, subsection “Aggression”.
mythbri
14 February 2013 at 11:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Regarding the asshole Orson Scott Card, a link to a review of a particularly offensive attempt of his to re-write Hamlet.
http://www.raintaxi.com/online/2011summer/card.shtml
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 11:45 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Steve Irwin once was asked about the most dangerous thing he ever did. This is the guy who clowned around with lions and offered an alligator a baby.
His answer?
Fording a river a hundred yards away from some sunning hippos.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 11:59 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…
We keep getting bigger and bigger houses, more and more cats, and there’s still just the one of me to clean it all. Ugh.
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)
14 February 2013 at 12:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Is it an organic, free-range microwave?
Aim
14 February 2013 at 12:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*unlurks*
Um, hi.
Maybe you’d enjoy MasaeAnela’s work. She hasn’t tackled any of the games you’ve listed, but she did LP both Katamari Damacy and We Love Katamari and she’s currently in the middle of Beautiful Katamari.
I can’t (yet?) figure out how to make links pretty, but here’s her channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/MasaeAnela
Nick Gotts (formerly KG)
14 February 2013 at 12:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I once went camping in the Okovango delta in Botswana with a local guide. We travelled in a mekoro, a narrow, shallow-draft boat much like a punt, and propelled in the same way. At one point a hippo plunged into the river near us, but blocked from sight by tall reed-beds. Naively, I was hoping to see it, but the guide was only concerned to put distance between us and it as quickly as possible.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 12:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Confession: in response to a meme on FaceBorg, I actually just spent 5 minutes pondering if at 12 I was more into Polly Pocket or Luke Skywalker.
I think I was more into Polly Pocket still. I had like 30 of those things.
rq
14 February 2013 at 12:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dammit, Tony, Giliell went ahead and said what I wanted to re: your guy situation. I’m squee-ing on the inside for you! :)
Beatrice
I have an excellent non-blah day on offer for tomorrow. Would you like one?
Portia
I have renewed my jar of thumbs for you!!!
Parrowing
All I can do, at the moment, is offer lotsnlots of *hugs*!!!!
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I liked Orson Scott Card when he wrote Ender’s Game. I liked him a lot less in subsequent books and stories.
And while I am not a big follower of Superman (or any superhero comics, for that matter), I do not think he’s the best choice out there to write stories for them…
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 12:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Utterly unrelated: I’m reading the “I am asked a question about commenting” thread, and waaaay back in the 600s, there’s a discussion of male vs. female names. And someone cited “Chris.”
True story: when I was an undergraduate, the college had a doctor on staff at the health center with the given name “Leslie.” There was also an NP who specialized in gynecology. This NP’s given name was “Chris.”
If you called for a gyno appointment, you would be asked if you wanted to see Leslie or Chris (as both could do the exams). And the receptionist started following this up with “…Leslie is male and Chris is female, just so you know,” after receiving a large number of complaints from people asking for Leslie because they preferred a woman doing their gyno exam.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
14 February 2013 at 12:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
Perhaps not your area of expertise, but I have a legal question I’d like to ask. Should I try you on FB, or email?
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Hippos=dangerous. Got it. Damn. They kill crocs.
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IJoe:
I know the feeling of being the caretaker for all the house animals. I am currently in highly annoyed mode because of it (trying to get the flea problem under control is difficult to do solo, for instance; god I hate carpet)
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
14 February 2013 at 12:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq:
Thanks.
The last guy I seriously dated was in 2003. He lived in New Orleans which is 3.5 hours from Pensacola. The distance became too much for me. I decided after that, that I wouldn’t date anyone over a hour away, and I would prefer to date someone living in the same city. So having J live 3 minutes from me is very nice.
cicely (I can see Friday from here)
14 February 2013 at 12:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
deborahbell: Good news about your supervisor’s response, even better news about the interview! If you get the job, at least it’s not likely that your supervisor would fire you for your atheism!
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I’m sorry you’ve had to put up with that kind of shit.
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*dons hazmat suit*
*hugs* for rq. Sorry you’re all doing the Family Flu thing. May it be a relatively light case, and soon over.
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Or still worse yet, and entire cart full. May they be cursed to forever find themselves in the check-out line behind the Price Check of Inordinate Duration!
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Or other, less-welcome variants. Take, for instance, my mother, with Brother2, and the epic Duet for Tantrum and Screaming Fit they performed at our local Sam’s, when he was 13. A high-tide mark in public embarrassment for The Husband, Sister1 and myself, as we improvised with an un-practised performance of We Do Not Know These People; Never Saw Them Before In Our Lives!
For some problems, there just is no universally satisfactory solution. Give in to his high-volume extortion? But a history of her giving in to avoid a public scene is what lead him to believe that, if he just kept it up, he would get what he wanted. Drag him screaming out of the store? That buys no groceries, and sometimes, that’s the only spot in the day’s schedule to get it done. And clubbing him over the head with a gallon-sized jar of dill pickles, then stuffing him into the under-cart space isn’t a viable option—’cause then where are you supposed to put the 25 pound bag of dog food???
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Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 12:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I have also heard they can be quite hungry.
mythbri
14 February 2013 at 12:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Tony #109
Easily.
I remember watching something on Animal Planet regarding hippos, and the people in the show put a dummy in a small boat and floated down the river toward some hippos. The bull hippo didn’t let it get very close before he chewed the whole thing up – boat, dummy, everything. The “injuries” to the dummy were most certainly fatal. It’s foolish to think you’re any safer on land, either – despite their appearance, they can run pretty fast, and they are just as aggressive out of the water.
(Sorry, animal nerd here.)
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 12:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh gods, talking about badly behaving children, the little one is currently in full power struggle mortal combat mode, Whatever I ask her to do gets answered with “I don’t want to” followed by crying (oh and she can cry. Sometimes she even practises in front of the mirror.)
So she just spent about 25 minutes crying like she was being tortured with a red hot poker followed by 60 seconds of finally putting the jigsaw-pieces into the box.
The taste of victory is stale…
UnknownEric is just a spudboy, looking for a quantum tomato.
14 February 2013 at 12:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This thread has convinced me that I do not, in fact, want a hippopotamus for christmas.
mythbri
14 February 2013 at 12:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@UnknownEric #115
It’s okay. It’s difficult to stuff them into stockings, anyway.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 12:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey Tony… congrats on the dating side, sorry about the fleas.
One of the big issues is that my office doesn’t have any carpeting in it, so the closet has become “kitty restroom”… four litterboxes in there. The smell isn’t so bad, if I keep the boxes scooped and the floor mopped weekly. The downside is that if I want some peace and quiet I can’t just lock the office door, because the cats want in to pee/poop.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
14 February 2013 at 1:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia – Good luck with your interview!
Rev:
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hallpower
14 February 2013 at 1:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Is the Skeptics Annotaded Bible legit? I want it.. I want it so bad I can taste it.. Just moves to a place in Sweden where for some reason god is strong… I want to give the church here a gift of information.. Did I mention.. Woman priest..Sad.
strange gods before me ॐ
14 February 2013 at 1:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible is based on the King James Version, which is a notoriously awful translation, one of the worst still sold in English. Unless you’re giving it to someone who prefers the KJV, they probably won’t take it seriously.
And, generally speaking, better a woman priest than a man.
hallpower
14 February 2013 at 1:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
How is women priests better.. just more stupid. But ok, it´s legit so I will order it. Thanks..
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 1:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Can someone translate this please?
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 1:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq
Thanks!
Tony
Email is good.
cicely
Ah, yes, I know this ritual well.
(Sidenote, I use Word to compose longer comments. It now autocorrects “cicelly” or some such misspelling to cicely : D)
Rev.BDC
:D
Thanks, Hekuni Cat
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Uuuuugh. I am trying to manage the sale of my grandfather’s house. But he keeps involving other advisors who are giving him terrible advice and it makes me want to pull out my hair.
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Client just called me in a panic because the bus didn’t pick her up so she’s going to be late. The relief in her voice was palpable when I told her it’s ok, we can still meet, get here when you get here. Poor thing.
Pteryxx
14 February 2013 at 1:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
re Superman fighting hate and prejudice back in the day (1946):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Superman_%28radio%29#.E2.80.9CClan_of_the_Fiery_Cross.E2.80.9D
strange gods before me ॐ
14 February 2013 at 1:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Because they annoy people who think only men should be priests.
And because their presence reduces the number of male-only spaces.
As long as women face more social and institutional barriers to becoming priests, the women who do become priests will tend to be relatively smart.
This priest you’re complaining about, I would not be surprised if she’s smarter than you.
cicely (I can see Friday from here)
14 February 2013 at 1:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis: Since you are sick (*hugs*) I will forgive you for the peas comment.
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I suppose that this could be true, provided the pot pie is inside another more excellent vehicle for peas—a garbage truck, for instance, or a plague wagon.
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*high five* for Giliell!
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Portia: Hurrah! for interview-having.
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Tony: It’s raining men?
:)
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*hugs* and encouragement for Beatrice.
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*hugs* for Lynna. I wish I could reassure you that Karl Rove can’t get you, but I’m not convinced that staking him through the heart, packing his mouth with garlic, and burying him at a crossroads in a coffin packed with wild roses, under a heavy scattering of mustard seeds, would end his menace. After all, just look at Darth Cheney….
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*snortle*
I suppose then that we must also ask, “Was it killed humanely?”
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Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 1:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
SGBM@125:
♥
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 1:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq,
Thanks for that excellent day, I’ll take it. We can share.
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 1:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh my goodness.
I have the TV on, I don’t know why.
There’s the pre-contest to the Eurovision song-contest and it’s sooooo bad.
The only songs that stood out so far did so by being especially bad.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 2:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely @126:
True. Too True. But at least you made me laugh. The essence of the horror/dream was that no matter where I hid, Karl Rove would negatively affect my life. All the while he was smiling inanely, looking kind of like a giant, polished baby, and smelling like Turd Blossom. And yes, he was unstoppable.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 2:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Giliell,
Eurovision is so trashy, it’s great. I would usually make popcorn, and watch and mock with mum. I think I spent the time here last year, commenting with you peoples.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 2:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Improbable Joe has convinced me. I don’t want cats.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
14 February 2013 at 2:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ummmm, I think I am giddy.
I have been texting J and the exchange has gone:
J: “i thought you were so cute last night.”
Me: “I was hoping for ‘I liked your dazzling wit, rational/freethinking approach, your passion for social justice AND thought you were cute.’ ”
J: “I noticed all of that. We have lots in common. You have rational thoughts. We will have lots to talk about.”
Me:”Thats the freethinking, atheist, humanist, feminist in me.”
J: “I am an atheist too. When I counsel people I use Humamist ideas. I think religion has corrupted society. I value science, not faith. I feel like an outsider in the South.”
Me: “You have no idea how elated I am to hear you say all that.”
And he’s gorgeous…wow.
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 2:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That’s amazing, Tony! I’m smiling and clapping for you. :D
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 2:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
beatrice
I think I watched it like once.
And never the new pre-contest they run to decide which group participates in the contest. It’s kind of running as a background noise.
OK, now there’s a band that is at least fun
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
14 February 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lynna:
Despite all that Joe has said, cats are wonderful masters.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony, that’s great.
Cerberus from Time Forgot
14 February 2013 at 2:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, everybody, for the kind words and support last night. I think my current plan is to start putting in job apps religiously again and hope for the best. Even if I fought back, I’m an hourly employee and the boss seeking to get rid of me is also the final approval on all scheduling. So even if I was to bare claws and fight back, she can just as easily fuck me another way.
Next time I’ll just have to be a bit more careful about trusting that state law is going to protect me.
cicely (I can see Friday from here)
14 February 2013 at 2:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That is wonderful news, Tony!
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Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 2:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lynna, cats are OK. Four cats and a dog is a bit too much, especially when they are all indoor-only cats.
Pteryxx
14 February 2013 at 2:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*belated hugs offered for Cerberus and mouthyb*
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 2:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ok, I just heard a long description of the “red bags” on the stranded cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico.
And that people are sharing them.
I am now going to try and pour bleach onto my brain.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 2:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Giliell,
That one sounds fun, makes me dance in my chair. I don’t expect quality from Eurovision, but it’s nice to hear something that is at least fun.
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Seconding Pteryxx with hugs for Cerberus and mouthyb.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 2:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rev.
I probably don’t want to know, but… what?
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 2:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
At one point my parents had six indoor-only cats. The smells, oh god, the smells…. (they still have five and the smells got worse)
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Thank you, sheila, and congratulations!
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Thanks a bunch, Aim! I really like those games also and I can’t believe I never thought to look up LPs of them. I will definitely check out that channel.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 2:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
you don’t want to know
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 2:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
but
this
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/travel/cruise-ship-fire/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 2:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rev.
Yeah, that’s bad. I just love how company is gifting them with a free cruise as compensation. I’m sure people will be delighted to go cruising with them again. The company should give legally binding assurance that they will cover any medical costs resulting from this trip.
broboxley OT
14 February 2013 at 2:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rev, honey buckets. What was used for generations in the village back home. For some reason, every two year old I ever saw found it amusing to stir the pot so to speak.
Rey Fox
14 February 2013 at 2:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Step 1) Try not to be such a creepy Stepford town. That’s all I got.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 2:57 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I didn’t think a cruise ship vacation would suit me before (even if someone else paid for it). Now I’m sure.
Those folks are trapped in a very dirty, overly used, crowded campground from which they can not escape because they are on a floating island of shit.
Pteryxx
14 February 2013 at 2:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
update from Christina of WWJTD, who’s asking for donations to get past a crushed foot:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2013/02/an-update-on-my-foot/
She’s going to vlog her progress on youtube, and then be an occupational therapist with experience as a patient, too.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 2:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My parents went on a cruise for their 25th wedding anniversary in 2005. They had a good time, but reported that it was surreal.
carlie
14 February 2013 at 3:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yeah – as I’ve been reading about it, I thought ok, these people are on the ocean. They can go in buckets and dump it off the side. They should have started doing that right at the beginning before everything started to overflow. Seriously. Yes, the ship is big. Yes, some would have probably ended up on the side of the ship. Better to designate one corner of the ship the pour area and get that side dirty than what’s going on now.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 3:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rey Fox @150. Spot on.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 3:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Soooo
why couldn’t they just transfer the passengers to another ship?
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 3:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Interesting take from Mother Jones on President Obama’s policy of raising the minimum wage:
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 3:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Moving people from one ship to another is not easy. Never has been. Especially when dealing with civilians with no experience sailing or dealing with large ships.
Lynna, OM
14 February 2013 at 3:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
More from the Mother Jones article on the proposed minimum wage boost:
The graphs that accompany this excerpt contain more detail.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi everybody. Introducing myself.
I would say I’m delurking, but I’m not sure I’ve actually been lurking long enough to be delurking. I’ve been reading Pharyngula for several years, although I don’t read every post, but I’ve only recently been paying more attention to the comment section. Reading the comments here has been a very pleasant experience in general. I do find it very difficult to keep up with these threads, but I’m doing my best.
I’m a Swedish teacher/linguistics student with a sweet tooth. That sums it up.
I share cats and love and apartment with Parrowing.
So, yeah, greetings to all. You are great.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 3:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis,
Huh, ok. Without knowing it was so difficult, it seemed like a better idea than letting people fester in their own filth.
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Catrambi,
Hello!
I wanted to comment on your avatar, but your sharing cats with Parrowing explains it.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice,
Hi! You can still comment on the avatar. Because they’re just too cute!
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 3:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello, Catrambi.
What is your position on horses and peas?
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 3:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Catrambi! Welcome!
Do I read you right? Are you Roommate de Parrowing?
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 3:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
(I figure we need to handle the tough questions up front).
Last week, we had a minor ice storm. Wife had a two-hour delay before going to work her street corner. While gong through some paperwork, she got a paper cut. Then she went out to spread rock salt on the ice.
No, I could not hear her scream up in Scranton.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis
Hi!
Tough one! I like both, but I probably like peas better. I’d still say I like horses better, in case a horse might be listening. (Peas don’t listen. To anybody.)
Portia
Thank you!
My contract says husband.
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 3:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Catrambi,
They are cute!
Good idea, Ogvorbis, we should know from the beginning whether Catrambi is on the right side* of the pea issue.
* which is Give peas a chance, of course
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 3:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
First advice, duck at cover, cicely is fierce. :D
And now I recall Parrowing mentioning a husband-person. (absent-minded? me? nope).
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 3:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ow ow ow, that does not sound fun, Ogvorbis!
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I have never shared my stance on either horses or peas. It is a mystery! (I could be a spy for the other team, cicely)
*
Yup, Catrambi is my roommate, husband, BFF, and fellow cat-wrangler. And now co-Lounger.
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 3:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
But Catrambi also likes horses. Horses are evil; peas are good.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Aww, I always wanted to be called a husband-person.
Hi Parrowing!
Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 3:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing,
You are a sneaky one. We’ll get that information out of you eventually.
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 3:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice:
Bwahahahaha! The horses will never take me ali— I mean, my lips are sealed.
Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 3:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Catrambi-Husband-Person
I will forever mix the two of you up because I go so much by avatars.
And one day I will place an order with you Swedes to get lots of Polkagrisar
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Giliell!
Getting me mixed up with Parrowing is encouraged.
The polka pigs are made in Gränna, and that requires me to travel all the way around Vättern if I want to buy them. :( But I’ll see what I can do.
cicely (I can see Friday from here)
14 February 2013 at 3:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Welcome in, Catrambi!
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Ooooh! Wrong answer!
Actually, liking peas better than Horses is…acceptible. After all, peas are the better missile weapon by far—more aerodynamic, and they struggle and complain less as you shove them into the straw. And, unlike Horses, peas can (by means of consumption by rats) be converted into Cute.
And of course the Horses are listening. They are always listening…plotting World Domination…insinuating dark thoughts into the hearts&minds of the susceptible (by which I mean rq).
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I prefer Visualise whirled peas…as they circle the drain, finally dropping into the garbage disposal.
(With extreme prejudice.)
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Fiercest spineless coward made entirely out of marshmallow you are ever likely to meet.
:D
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Parrowing: I will immediately begin eyeing you with suspicion. Just in case.
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Giliell, professional cynic
14 February 2013 at 3:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Catrambi
Get a room, the two of you!
(rule 24b: We all have our inner 12 yo and they stay up in the Lounge well after their bedtime)
No worries, you don’t have to walk though Swedish winter to get them. As I said, one day…
Talking about bedtime: it’s mine now.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
14 February 2013 at 3:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely:
♥ :D :D
Tony – Yay!
Catrambi – Welcome to our Lounge! Pull up a chair and see Nerd about drinks. You and Parrowing have beautiful cats.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely
Thank you!
Can’t wait until I’ve been completely devoured by the hivemind and will be able to follow this horse/pea discussion better.
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 3:57 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I could have gotten you loads of them last summer, Giliell. All sorts of weird flavors, too.
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(Pssst, cicely, my stance on horses is somewhere between neutral and mild mistrust and my stance on peas is that I dislike them but in the right meal, I will give them a chance, the right meal being pea pesto. If it helps, I always request the peas be left out of other meals. I don’t know what this means for what team I’m on.)
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
14 February 2013 at 3:57 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice
*hugs* You are not stupid.
Tony
Congratulations
Catrambi
Welcome.
others:
Hugs and congratulations as needed, kind of lost the thread here just now.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 3:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Hekuni Cat! And thank you.
If free drinks are offered, I will keep drinking margaritas until I fall asleep. In a good way!
The cats say “meow”.
Giliell – Good night!
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, Dalillama!
Hekuni Cat, MQG
14 February 2013 at 4:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My cat would say hi, Catrambi, but she’s asleep on my foot. =^_^=
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hekuni Cat – Awww, I have one sleeping on my foot too! It’s like they’re twins! Oh way, they basically are.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I meant to say “Oh wait, they basically are.” I’m tired.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
14 February 2013 at 4:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Catrambi!
I like peas, of the baby, snow and sugar snap kind.
Has anyone ever tried biofeedback? There seems to be a big mix of woo (allergies?!) and science (stress) all up in there. But anyway, real proper medical research from UNSW and Dubbo seems to be showing that CFS is connected with an over-active autonomic nervous system, and possibly biofeedback targetting vagus nerve activity might help. I’m a little skeptical, but I don’t think it can hurt except the $150 wallet pain for the device. Which is not a big deal for me, so I’m going to try it.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Alathea!
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I mean Alethea.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
14 February 2013 at 4:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m trying to get my partner to at least check out the Lounge. I’mma try and get him hooked while he’s up here.
rq
14 February 2013 at 4:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello, Catrambi.
I like your position on Horses. cicely and I have different
religionsopinion concerning the four-legged loverly darlings.Also, I hate the flu.
Also, Eurovision is good for a few laughs (at least, the Latvian pre-competition version is…), but I’m glad we skipped watching this year. I don’t think I can handle all-over flu and Eurovision.
Probably watch in June (by the way, the Latvian selection is… mildly sexist, to say the least. A powerfully voiced young woman (I love her voice and also her participation in sex-positive events, and her general attitude towards singing/life) singing about needing a hero. Why don’t you be a hero for once?? Latvia wallows enough. We need to send a better message. /rant
Did I mention I hate the flu? I love my ibuprofen, though. That I definitely do. It keeps me functional. I just don’t know what I’ll do tomorrow when we run out…
Ah well, best get to sleep best as I can.
rq
14 February 2013 at 4:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yeah, that was a Good night. I’m out. *like a light!*
Portia, who will be okay.
14 February 2013 at 4:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Night Giliell, night rq!
Can I hit the hay now too? I don’t care that’s it’s still afternoon. I’m tired.
/whine.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi rq!
I haven’t followed the Eurovision nonsense in ages, but I gather from various reports that the Swedish pre-competition is being dominated by Sean Banan (yes, it does mean Sean Banana) and his hit song “Copacabanana”.
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 4:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, hi WMDKitty.
birgerjohansson
14 February 2013 at 4:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq,
The trilogy by Orson Scott Card that begins with “Speaker For the Dead” is not bad.
Other authors; try Benedict Jacka (urban gothic. *Good* urban gothic)
— — — — — — — — —
I read in Science that bats have a very powerful innate immune system, allowing them to be a reservoir for Ebola and several other serious diseases.
Hmm… a bit of GM and we get a bat-strength innate immune system. Could be useful, and not just in Africa. The facehuggers could do their worst, and their larvae would still not survive.
— — — — — — — — —
I had to lock away a tray with special “cat grass”, Cicero went crazy and would not stop chewing on it. Weird critters.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 4:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What I’m hearing is that everyone who travels on these cruises signs something severely limiting what they can claim in instances like this.
And I would never go on a cruise too many of those things in close proximity that you can’t really escape.
What are they called again…
Oh, humans.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 4:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi everyone, and welcome Catrambi!
Is anyone actually doing anything for Valentine’s day this year? I cleaned the house and I’m doing laundry, and I’m cooking chicken enchiladas for dinner. Our anniversary is NEXT week, also on a weekday, so we’re having a strange sort of celebration in slow-motion. Started last weekend with dinner and movies and flowers and chocolates, continued Tuesday and Wednesday with movies, tonight is scrubbed house and Spanish-ish cooking, and Saturday night I’m taking my wife out to dinner… I just made the reservation. The actual day of our anniversary we’ll probably do nothing like we do nothing every year. :)
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 4:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just had the turkey pot pie for dinner. Homemade gravy (made with a roux), peas, green beans, sweet red peppers, onions, and celery. Boy looked at it and said, “Pot pie, huh?”
I answered, “Yup. Pot pie.”
Boy: “Just to be clear, what are the green herby things in here?”
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
14 February 2013 at 4:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Heya, catrambi! *headbonks*
Ah. V-Day. I’m alone. Partner is in Seattle. Joy…
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness
14 February 2013 at 5:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey everyone! I just saw iJoe’s email and wanted to give an update. Thanks for missing me and caring! It means a lot and I’ve missed this place, you people so much.
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I’m SO not caught up but a few things..
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Cerberus, I’m so sorry that’s happening to you. It always fucking sucks when bosses pull that kind shit and I can’t imagine what it’s like being targeted because you’re trans. I really hope thing work out. =(
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Hi, Catrambi! I’m sporadically posting at the moment but it’s always good to see more additions to The Horde.
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As for an update, things are okay here. I did the second appointment with the dentist, which has helped SO much. There’s still a shit load of sensitivities but being able to buy the $5 sensidine helps with that. There’s no being able to eat really hard or crunchy food but I can adjust and get that fixed later. There’s the horrible, embarrassing first impression I make with my disgusting teeth but there’s a teeth cover I wear to help with that. =)
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When I realized I wouldn’t actually be filing taxes this year due to not working left me horribly depressed. I feel like a child, not filing. The refund has always been that life saving chunk of money for big things. If I was working, I would’ve used the rebate to fix my teeth or buy a better computer. Something. Now there’s just nothing to show because I’ve done nothing last year. =( Usually my depression is coupled with minor busts of actively to do the cleaning or laundry or ranting online because it just has to be done. I’m usually still angry. Now I’m just all blahhhh all the time like I’m moving molasses or something and just get so tired so I sleep a lot. I’ve never slept this much. I’m usually an insomniac that wakes at the littlest things.
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Lately, I’ve also found it so easy to just be absorbed into my book review persona online. That person doesn’t have the issues I do. That person speaks her mind and does talk about things like feminism when it comes up in books even though other reviewers don’t. That person is friendly and talking to new people and doing stuff. I actually just got done having an awesome conversation with an author about rape in books. I’m still so much of a puzzle person. One of the few things I know I love is books. When I’m in The Book Reviewer Persona, I hone my likes, dislikes, pet peeves and actually talk to people about it. Almost everything else about me is so up in the air. How am I suppose to know if I like something when I haven’t tried it? How much of it is conditioned? How much of what I thought I liked was just me conforming for camouflage? Being just the book reviewer has helped in the area of affirming who I am, since I really, truly am a huge book nerd. Pharygula and The Horde has been instrumental in my development but it’s like I ventured out on my own finally and found my wobbly legs can hold me. I keep meaning to read up here, comment and support but I find it just so hard to keep up with everything. I’m being pulled in a bunch of different was and the books are just sucking me in.
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Then there’s this V-day crap. Which I usually just ignore but with Little One in school she wanted to bring everyone valentines. The grandparents got two sets, one scooby doo for the boys and princess for the girls. They informed me and asked me for the school picture to write out the names. I was like…why didn’t I get to buy them and why are you insisting on this gendering crap?”
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Their response was “But Little One was to make them all personal and write it out. Just give us the picture, this is what she wants!” I don’t care if that’s what she wants to do. I know why and understand and am not mad but they just assumed and took over the role doing it. I didn’t even get a chance to talk with her like I planned to explain things when we would go pick the valentines out.
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I felt robbed when they told me they bought the valentines and decided all this. Then I got to be the bad buy and try to explain to Little One when she’s all upset and not getting what she wants. Why not give every kid an option to pick which one they want? My mother actually started searching for the school picture to do it, even after I objected. Ugh. She’s like “No, I get what you’re saying. Girls can certainly like Scooby-Doo. I do, you do, Little One does. But {Jaaaaaaaaal} this is what she want to do for her friends. Don’t force her to leave them blank.” Trying to insert the very important and “And boys can like princess just fine!” was fruitless. Goddamn, do I hate how much the grandparents give into her. It’s ridiculous.
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Just leave the cards blank, give the option for her classmates to pick what they want and she or her friends can write their name in the card. Little One can write her name at home obviously but don’t adhere to this gendered crap. Just giving kids the option is important. They didn’t get it. *sigh* The cards ended up going to school blank since mom never found the school picture with the names and Little One didn’t throw another fit over it.
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Beatrice
14 February 2013 at 5:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello JAL!
Good to read you again
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
14 February 2013 at 5:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh shit. Best Friend’s brother-in-law just got diagnosed with motor neurone disease.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 5:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
How does a cat adoption agency get off giving me a cat with fucking parasites and MASSIVE anxiety problems, when I’m in a situation with another cat?
Toc has tapeworms plus giardia. Know how I know he has tapeworms? Cause he shat himself in terror at my trying to get him to the vet today (at least he smells nice now.) I don’t have the slightest clue how I’m going to give him the giardia medication.
Oh yea, and he’s going to have to be on anti-anxiety medication.
opposablethumbs
14 February 2013 at 5:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ve been awol for a whole week. And that was a week in which I did not so much as click on the Lounge One – Single – Time, let alone the rest of Pharyngula let (still less) alone any FTB tab (until yesterday, briefly). I actually surprised myself, as normally I click all around Pharyngula at least, multiple times a day. (Why? Eh, mostly it was a Thing with DaughterSpawn (she’s on a sandwich course (nothing to do with sammiches. Do people call them sandwich courses anywhere else but here?) and this year she has to apply for industrial placements for the sandwich year. So she has a few applications out and she just heard back from the first one, and it turns out she got through a written application and phone interview to her first ever actual interview in her life, which was a whole day of tests and activities at the other end of the country and she was absolutely bricking it. So I was helping her prepare her presentation and try to prepare for The Day in between actually trying to get my own work done. And we realised just before that she did not own a single “business” type clothe (who asks students to dress up in “business” gear? Can’t they just dress smart and clean? No, it has to be “business” ffs). No I did not go shopping with her, but it just all added to the stress. She doesn’t have money for stuff like that, and neither do I. And the fucking 4:30 am start in order to get there for 10 am (and I’m pretty sure she hasn’t got the place, but like I told her this was good experience and hopefully it will be a bit less terrifying next time)))))) (I lost track of the brackets there, so here’s a few spares)
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So, after this damned hiatus I realised there was no way I could ever catch up and I just read PZ’s actual posts and no comment threads. And I realised all over again, that damn PZ is good. And that this place isn’t (overall) just as good as I thought, it’s better. That this is simply the imperfect (of course) best place I have ever found to talk to people (apart from one annual RL pub hangout). I missed being here! I know I don’t exactly have a huge amount to contribute, but I just wanted to say how much I appreciate being able to come here, and how much I appreciate all of you lot who help each other out with one typing hand while eviscerating trolls with the other. Good people. It just sort of hit me afresh, after being away, is all.
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I did look a bit today, and I see that some people have had some very shitty things happen to health and jobs and other bad news, and I’d like to send them a whole boatload of chocolate and flowers. I also saw that some people have had wonderful things happen in their love-lives and work and studies, so you all get chocolate and flowers too (or even chocolate flowers, if you like that sort of thing) (bacon also available).
Parrowing buıʍoɹɹɐd
14 February 2013 at 5:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Waves to JAL!
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iJoe, Catrambi and I are going out to dinner tomorrow for V-Day. The one restaurant in town is within throwing distance of our apartment building, so I can handle getting there.
*
Off to bed. Good night, everyone.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
14 February 2013 at 5:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
JAL – Thank you for the update. I literally was just thinking about you and wondering how you were. *hugs*
I think your idea to leave the valentines blank except for Little One’s signature was a very good one. I’m just sorry that the whole thing developed in the first place.
When I was in elementary school, giving valentines was such a popularity contest that it was rather depressing for anyone not part of the popular crowd. I don’t remember our valentines having a specific gender to them, but that was a long time ago and the valentines I remember were much more generic.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
14 February 2013 at 5:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
opposablethumbs – Welcome back. *hugs*
Catrambi
14 February 2013 at 5:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Improbable Joe and JAL and all the rest of you.
Off to bed!
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness
14 February 2013 at 5:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*waves back to everyone*
Hekuni Cat
Oh, fuck do I remember that. My memory is practically non-existent of my childhood but one moment I remember vividly was in 5th grade and feeling terrible because I was one of those kids who wouldn’t have gotten any cards, if it wasn’t for the mandate of everyone gets them or no one does. My classmates were vicious in pointing that out and openly hostile to giving me anything. I really wished I hadn’t gotten any.
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Thankfully, at 5 and 6 all the kids are real friendly, open and actually want to give everyone cards. Well, Little One and her class certainly seems to be anyways.
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Damn, all the glimpses of my childhood suck. No wonder I don’t remember 99% of it all.
Ogvorbis
14 February 2013 at 5:57 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi JAL.
I dreaded Valentine’s Day back when I was in elementary school. Just layers and layers of suck.
Hi opposablethumbs.
opposablethumbs
14 February 2013 at 6:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thank you, Hekuni Cat!
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JAL, it’s really good to hear from you again. Sorry about the valentines hassle … I tend to think that valentines day is pretty much a festival of cruelty more than anything else. After all, if people are happily romantically involved that’s great (and you can give someone a token of your affection any day, right?) so all that having a Hallmark Day achieves is to make things that little bit worse for anyone who’s not happily romantically involved but would like to be. :-(
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Goodnight Horde, it’s midnight in Blighty.
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Oh, and hi Catrambi!
opposablethumbs
14 February 2013 at 6:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Ogvorbis! So good to be back.
Sod valentine’s day, I ♥ the Horde.
UnknownEric is just a spudboy, looking for a quantum tomato.
14 February 2013 at 6:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Science, according to my 7 year old son:
“Back in ancient times… like 1927… there was nothing. Like, no Earth even! But then everything went (explosion noise) and there was the galaxy.”
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness
14 February 2013 at 6:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ve noticed that a lot of people {okay, unscientific and all but a noticeable trend} on their profiles and/or blogs say “I’ll read pretty much anything but GLBT.” I become immediately suspicious of them and their reasons why. There’s the few that straight up say that they are religious and homophobic. Not that they call it homophobia but that’s what it is. I’ve admittedly never read a GLBT book before now, the book I’m currently reading is but I’ve never out right rejected them as a whole category. I’m fucking loving the book so much so far too. Immediately hooked from page one. It’s just irritating because I think it’s whole ‘gay is other and their sex is icky’ shit behind this trend.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
14 February 2013 at 6:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
JAL
I’ll read anything but westerns.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 6:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
JAL, FUCKING GLAD TO SEE YOU! I’m with you on not remembering childhood. I have NOTHING before I was like 7-8 years old. *counts with fingers* yeah, around there. I know 4th grade happened, and I can remember some of 5th, and the universe didn’t exist before then.
What exactly do they mean by “GLBT”? Wait, never mind… even as I’m typing it I guess I can figure out the one category where “I’ll read pretty much anything but GLBT.” is a fair statement to make: erotica. Otherwise, the person is being an asshole.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 6:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, here’s a picture of Formerly Office Cat using the community kitty castle. She’s really come out of her shell/hiding place in the new house.
SC (Salty Current), OM
14 February 2013 at 6:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi, all!
Just dropping in to say…
Guest judge on tonight’s Project Runway: BETTE FUCKING MIDLER.
That’s it. :) Hope everyone’s doing well!
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 7:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@SC:
*glances up at her last post (#204)*
Nope XD
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness
14 February 2013 at 7:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe, *waves*
Yeah, my memory loss goes into my early teens though and I’m honestly glad for that.
There’s GLBT which is where everything including GLBT characters get put and there’s GLBT erotica or just erotica. I get having genres you don’t read, it’s just excluding a genre based on non-hetero normal characters feels…well, assholish. I mean, not even a try? What about mainstream books that include such characters as well? Oh, wait those are minor, often stereotypical characters that fit what people want (the ultra femme gay man for example), which often gets push back by closed minded assholes anyways. But have a main character that’s gay? Gets shoved into the GLBT category and written off by a lot of people. That’s the part that rubs me the wrong way. Books are such an awesome way to grow and understand other people. I think if there were more inclusion, more exposure it would help change people’s minds. Book just had such a huge effect on me going up. Speak helped me with my rape, Luna was eye opening for trans* since I’d never even heard of people like before *mumbles stupid small town and general education sucks mumble*. Luna was just in the shelves, not separated into GLBT area in my school’s library. Otherwise, and I’m embarrassed to admit this, I wouldn’t have gone into a GLBT section to look because of how classmates would tease and harass me. I already got shit for being the fat ugly nerd with occasional remarks on being a lesbian since I didn’t squeal or giggle at boys like the other girls did. Or they used me as way to injure a boy like “Haha, Jal likes so and so, poor him!”
Ugh, so yeah I wouldn’t have found Luna otherwise and that would’ve been such a loss.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 7:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@JAL:
Makes me curious how my book will be categorized – seeing as its got several non-hetero characters XD
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 7:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
… I think Dan Fincke is a terrible fucking person.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2013/02/the-camels-with-hammers-civility-pledge/
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort
14 February 2013 at 7:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe – did you see Chris’s latest?
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 7:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yeah, I hadn’t refreshed the other windows… OOPS. :)
ednaz
14 February 2013 at 8:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I just dried the towels for 50 minutes on the Air Fluff setting.
That is my week.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 8:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It is bill paying time. So, I just wrote checks for $457.13. And I’m putting Santa stickers on every single envelope. :D
Ogvorbis: Now with Boltcutters!
14 February 2013 at 9:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth:
I have been putting Nemo, Buzz Lightyear, The Incredibles, Hamm, and other Disney stamps on my envelopes of late. (Though I do most of my bill-paying on-line (sorry, USPS))
Heading off to bed.
Wife and I have the next two days off together.
And I am feeling a bit better.
And I have lost 20 pounds since January 1st!
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
14 February 2013 at 9:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I think I just challenged Walton for the title of “most UK-royal-history-knowledgable Pharyngulite.”
This requires a deathmatch, obvs. Oggie, please get the Jell-O kiddie pool ready.
*snaps on goggles*
Have a Balloon
14 February 2013 at 9:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello everyone. I have a question.
I notice that sometimes when people comment (John Morales does this a lot I think) they do this:
[meta]
[/meta]
What does that mean, meta?
Rev. BigDumbChimp
14 February 2013 at 9:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
meta is commentary on commentary or self referential though it’s not always used that way
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 9:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
For Valentine’s Day, my sweetheart bought me a guitar tuner and a chorus pedal. My wife is the best ever!
… she could have bought me some Velcro though. How else to attach them to the board? I might have some extra Velcro around here somewhere… dammit!
strange gods before me ॐ
14 February 2013 at 9:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
More generally, meta-X is X-on-X or X-about-X.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta
Since John is doing commentary, the “meta” implicitly means commentary about commentary.
Rey Fox
14 February 2013 at 10:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The first Clive Barker book I read somewhere in my early teens had a guy protagonist who made gay love to a gay lover. I still finished it.
I picked it up in part because it had a fox on the cover. So I’m in no position to object.
Rey Fox
14 February 2013 at 10:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, there goes my humor through repetition. That’s supposed to be “gay protagonist”. He was also a guy, as I recall.
Have a Balloon
14 February 2013 at 10:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, I see. Thank you, Rev. BigDumbChimp and strange gods before me :)
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
14 February 2013 at 10:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
HI JAL:!!
Yes, the only reason for a statement like ‘I’ll read anything except GLBT is homophobia/bigotry. There really isn’t any other option there.
Opposablethumbs
Hi to you too.
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 11:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I had typed a whole other long thing…
The conversation about “GLBT books” reminded me of Poppy Z. Brite, who wrote really strongly “gay” horror stories that I really liked even back when I was young and dumb and was just a little squicked out by the sex scenes. I should see what else she has written… not that I don’t have a giant back-log of books to read!
Pteryxx
14 February 2013 at 11:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
JAL! Is back!
JAL, I sent you an email too, and have things for you.
JAL: Snark, Sarcasm & Bitterness
14 February 2013 at 11:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey Pteryxx!
*checks email* Hmm, I don’t see another email, just the one on Feb. 8th. And YAY! THINGS! :D
joanimal
14 February 2013 at 11:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I have been pondering the cuteness of the hippo. Since I moved the rhino out of the backyard and into the study (its not so bad, I just throw newspaper down) because the neighbor’s chihuahua kept making googly eyes and my poor lovesick rhino would just climb one of the trees to jump into the neighbor’s yard, I now have a free backyard with a pool, so the only question is pigmy or full-sized?
Hi, I am new, well actually old, but new to Ftb, well not really I have been lurking for some time now…
Also, on a more serious note how do I make paragraph breaks? I understand ancient HTML, but cannot remember how to add whitespace.
joanimal
14 February 2013 at 11:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ok, got it. It added the whitespace on Submit.
I didn’t see the paragraph breaks in the Preview.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
14 February 2013 at 11:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Spring is sprung
The grass is riz
Please tell me where
The Kleenex is!
/Burma Shave
//Too obscure?
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
14 February 2013 at 11:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
WMDKitty,
Yeah, a bit obscure… I know what Burma Shave IS, but I didn’t know that they had a Kleenex-related jingle? Unless it isn’t a jingle, and it was even more obscure?
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
14 February 2013 at 11:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It’s not one of theirs, no, it’s me hijacking their format to bitch and moan about allergies.
I just added the “Burma Shave” as a joke.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
14 February 2013 at 11:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Wait, can I use “bitch”, as understood to mean “complaining”, while referring only to myself and my own actions, or is that still a sexist slur?
Am I thinking too much?
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)
14 February 2013 at 11:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, it reinforces stereotypes associating complaining with femaleness. :/
Tigger_the_Wing, Ranged Throngs Termed A Nerd With Boltcutters
14 February 2013 at 11:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
WMDKitty, thanks to the Horde, I have expunged all such words from my vocabulary in case (a) someone is reading for whom that is a trigger-word and (b) so as not to give any encouragement to trolls.
It doesn’t hurt me if I don’t use it and it might cause harm if I do. So I don’t. =^_^=
I’ve also taken note of the horrible way you were treated when you tried to stop someone bullying you about your disability, and won’t be using that word about myself, either.
*Scritches, if you want them*
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 12:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Joanimal:
Welcome to the Lounge. See rq about registering any useful skills you have for the post zombie apocaslypse Commune we have created.
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Opposablethumbs & JAL:
Nice to see the both of you again.
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Today I wondered how Cipher was doing. I know xe was quite pissed off when PZ let everyone out of the dungeon and let everyone roam free for a while. I hope xe is doing ok.
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When did we get a Jello kiddie pool in the Commune and is it fruit or no fruit?
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Hi Catrambi, husband person. Welcome to the Lounge!
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
15 February 2013 at 12:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Azkyroth, Tigger
So noted — I’ve noticed a gradual drift in my own vocabulary, and my thinking… it’s kinda interesting, and I wanna see where the rabbit hole ends.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 12:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Joanimal – Welcome to our Lounge!
Tigger_the_Wing, Ranged Throngs Termed A Nerd With Boltcutters
15 February 2013 at 12:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Welcome back JAL and Opposablethumbs!
Hello new people! =^_^=
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… I’ll be sitting in the furthest corner, trying not to give the flu to those of you who have managed to escape infection so far. Just ignore the spreading puddle of sweat, OK?
Improbable Joe, ... I got nothin'
15 February 2013 at 12:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
WMDKitty,
I think you can use “bitch” in your head all you like. I even think you can use it among your friends under limited conditions. I mean, Satan knows how some liberal white person could have misinterpreted the things I’ve said in the company of friends…
Context counts. It would be ideal to expunge all troubling language… but then we should all be vegans, and living in some sort of semi-socialist commune.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tigger_the_Wing – Feel better soon. *virtual hugs* I also love the addition to your nym.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
15 February 2013 at 12:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I just realized that, a year ago, I wouldn’t even have stopped to consider the issue.
Mind. Blown.
Tigger_the_Wing, Ranged Throngs Termed A Nerd With Boltcutters
15 February 2013 at 12:32 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thank you, strong>Hekuni Cat, I put ‘transgendered grandmother’ through the online anagram engine and fiddled with the result. And added boltcutters, of course! =^_^=
Giliell, professional cynic
15 February 2013 at 1:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good morning!
PZ really did well when he picked his co-blogger.
Hi joanimal
Now, the question is whether you want a single one or more of them. Pygmy-hippos are solitary creatures that live alone but the full-sized version likes company.
Good thing about rhinos is that they’re fairly easily house-trained since they only shit and pee in one place.
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 2:04 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi, Dalillama!
Thank you, Tigger_the_Wing (argh flu. ::Nice Cup of Tea via the usual means of transmission) and Tony (long may the current happy dating situation be happy)!
chigau (違う)
15 February 2013 at 2:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I don’t think I’ll even pretend to try to catch up
but
there was a bake-sale today
and wow, I scored…
cookies, brownies, scones, etc., etc.,etc.,
open your ports
Giliell, professional cynic
15 February 2013 at 2:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*opens port*
Scones, please!
I wished I knew how to make those raisin scones that sold at the Limerick University…
Ragutis
15 February 2013 at 2:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey! Everybody run over to Token Skeptic and check out the videos of an exploding meteor in Russia. Very, very awesome!
Ragutis
15 February 2013 at 2:51 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
There are more vids at HuffPo, Holy crap, that boom is amazing. Unfortunately, it’s looking like several hundred people have been injured in one way or another as a result. Broken glass, a collapsed wall, etc.
Ragutis
15 February 2013 at 2:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And of course, Phil Plait is all over it. I wonder if he’s going to be going to bed tonight.
mildlymagnificent
15 February 2013 at 3:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sun’s still up here, but the Fringe Festival parade’s about to start. It’s 33C and they’re having flames and fireworks when it gets dark. Hah! Good job it’s in the city centre, they wouldn’t be allowed to do any of that stuff anywhere else within a 1000km of here. (Aaaand, mrmagnificent won’t be home for ages. The bus routes and timetables are all mucked up due to the parade. And there won’t be trains here again until October.)
Oh shit! They’re running a rehash of the Ash Wednesday bushfires – 30 years ago. A friend of ours died in that fire.
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 3:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just saw a link posted by Jesus ‘n Mo regular commenter Darwin Harmless to a free download of a book he recommends: The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer (U of Manitoba), at http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
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It’s an analysis of what makes authoritarian followers tick, aimed at the general reader, focusing on the raving right in the US (written 2006, but there’s another file with a post 2008 election postscript).
Anyone familiar with the book or with Altemeyer? Both unknown to me; looks quite interesting.
John Morales
15 February 2013 at 3:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
opposablethumbs, multiple people have recommended that here over the years.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
15 February 2013 at 3:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Opposablethumbs,
Yes, it’s recommended in some thread or another fairly often. I’ve done it a few times, and there are a couple of other regulars who reference it often. I can’t think who just now because I’m terrible with names even when I haven’t had half a bottle of champagne.
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 4:36 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
::embarrassed::
::very embarrassed::
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::really embarrassed:: plus ::headdesk::
:-(
Oh well, at least I saw the reference at long last. Maybe I need new eyes :-(
rq
15 February 2013 at 5:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*ghjkfslgkjldplprlkplkgpelr…* Well, I’m alive. I think. Fever @ around 39, I must be… I think…
Hello to new folks, be warned – I think my flu got into the USBs. Do not accept any strange packages, and clean up any leaks immediately.
Hello, opposablethumbs and JAL!! Very nice to read you both again, and good luck with everything!
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Thanks for the exploding meteor links, Ragutis. That’s about how my head feels (but without the collateral damage… :( Big sads for that – for the fact that there is collateral damage, not that my head doesn’t have any!).
I think I’m off to bed again, while the munchkins are napping. *urrrghh*
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Also, Tony, what I read about your new beau, very exciting! *thumbs up*
rq
15 February 2013 at 5:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
OH MY I needed this giggle!! Concerning the evolution (devolution?) of dinosaurs.
carlie
15 February 2013 at 5:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not a meteor. Just The Doctor sending a Valentine to Rose. (Doctor Who nerd reference)
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
15 February 2013 at 7:40 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq and Tigger and anyone I missed
I hope your USB Flu ports itself out soon.
[stuffs all the laptop holes with bleach soaked rags]
mildlymagnificent
The thought of fireworks makes me a little sick to my stomach. You can’t walk anywhere unpaved here without the surface underfoot making some kind of scary crunching sound.
Today the mythical house-that-might-be-but-seems-like-it-never-will-be got bad case of scaffolds.
They’re saying roofing will begin next Thursday. That is of course if the damn thing hasn’t burnt to the ground by then. The clouds in that picture are the tail end of a massive thunder cell that started three fires on the mountain you can see peeking out behind there. Mind you, it dropped a pretty good amount of rain, so as best I can tell there’s no immediate worry.
Just a hit and run yet again.
I hope all is as well as it can be with everyone and everything in all of your lives.
Oh, and good to see opposablethumbs and JAL about the place again.
rq
15 February 2013 at 7:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Very dramatic photo, FossilFishy. Like the sky will drop a roof down at any moment. I like your progress, and just so you know, I have a bunch of thumbs I’m holding for you, as well! (Both for the fires and also just for the general progress of the house-to-be – currently known as Skeleton House!)
Aim
15 February 2013 at 7:51 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Parrowing , you’re welcome! I hope you enjoy the LPs.
Tigger_the_Wing , Thanks for the welcome. I have chocolate-flavoured black tea, if you want any…
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 8:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thank you rq and FossilFishy. I was amazed at how much I missed Pharyngula after only a week away!
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Wow, your house, FossiFishy – it’s growing!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!
rowanvt
15 February 2013 at 8:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
:/ I think I need to get a lawyer. A locally based web company is using one of my drawings to advertise their free-to-play online game all over face book…. without my permission. I’ve had 4 people contact me in the last 2 days about this and provide screen caps. I’ve applied for a full gov’t copyright of the drawing in question. Not sure where to go from here aside from continue collecting screen captures and contact a lawyer.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 8:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
BOOBIES ARE SCARY!!!
rq
15 February 2013 at 9:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yes, Rev., boobies are scary!
But I love that they added an exemption for breast-feeding ‘incidents’. And obviously, male nipples don’t turn anybody on. /sarcasm
glodson
15 February 2013 at 9:49 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I thought I would share a sweet story today.
I was a bit sick the past couple of days, so my daughter stayed at home with me. She missed Valentine’s Day at her school. She’s only 3, and I call it is school because it kind of is. We were lucky to get her in here instead of relying on a daycare.
Anyway, she had a box of treats that we were going to give out on Valentine’s Day to her friends. She was holding them as we walked in. She smiled at me and said “Daddy, these treats are going to make my friends smile.”
I’m very proud of her.
drbunsen, le savant fous
15 February 2013 at 10:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yello. Long time, no reads. How are we all?
Catching up on a few Recent Unpleasantnesses hereabouts. Just thought I’d pop by to make a note of this:
Improbable Joe said:
T-shirt. Now.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 10:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Plodding through the “I am ased a question about commenting” thread.
Have gotten to Lee Coye. Jebus.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 10:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ 281
It just goes downhill from there.
sisu
15 February 2013 at 10:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Paging mouthyb,, mouthyb you have a call on the red courtesy phone in the Lounge…
Have you heard from Stephanie & Marcus re: travel grants?
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 10:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So I’m gathering, glodson. *headdesk*
Rey Fox
15 February 2013 at 10:59 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I wish The Authoritarians was available in Kindle or Google Play format. I’d like to read it on the tablet, but the type is too small and the margins are too big and the footnote links don’t always work.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 10:59 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Okay, because I’ve seen it referred to all over, what is the “vervet paper”?
glodson
15 February 2013 at 11:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ 284
Sometimes I suspect that the headdesk inducing posts is part of a strategy to get us to concede. I would guess they hope that if we are thoroughly concussed, we’ll concede the point.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 11:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hot damn. Have come to Lee Coye asserting that true equality has been tried in recent history, and failed.
Have not yet gotten to where he provides a citation.
$5 says he cites the USSR.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 11:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
IANAL but when I’ve found people using my photos without permission I’ve contacted them first and told them in writing they have not asked for permission and to cease using it immediately. Usually they’ll stop. If they don’t I have a friend who is a lawyer send them a letter on the firm letterhead.
Start by telling them they do not have rights to use it. See what happens next. You automatically have copyright on anything you create (at least that’s how photos work) but your restitution is limited if you have not applied for the govt copyright. So even if you don’t have that yet you still can tell them to knock it the fuck off, If I remember correctly.
cicely (I can see Friday from here)
15 February 2013 at 11:41 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I disapprove of modern, computerised as-you-need-it ordering—at least, where holiday candy is concerned. WalMart had nothing left to be marked down and sold cheap. Nothing!
The entire point of Valentine’s Day is cheap, day-after chocolate.
*grumpgrumpgrump*
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So we do!
It’s just that rq is wrong.
Completely, tragically wrong.
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JAL!!!
*pouncehug*
Good to read you…I was starting to worry.
*moar hugs*
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Sorry to hear that.
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*hugs* for Katherine Lorraine.
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*hugs* and welcome home! to opposablethumbs.
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Ah, yes, I remember it well.
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:D
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1) Walton doesn’t seem to ever come around these days. I think he Does Not Love Us Anymore. No kiddie-pool wrestling match.
2) When I’m on form—i.e., when it’s not morning, or Monday, and I am otherwise possessed of rational capacity—I might be able to give you a run for your money; however, these days I am trying to avoid any form of Navigating on Slippery Surfaces, which still leaves you—and your goggles—alone and forlorn in a pool of Jell-O (which in my mental image is lime-flavored). All dressed up and nowhere to go! Alas!
And there Dibbler was, already firing up the diesel-powered time-machine/interdimensional-portal/weenie-wagon.
:D
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cicely (Damn! I forgot to change my 'nym!)
15 February 2013 at 12:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi, joanimal; welcome in!
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I sure hope not! I used that joke as recently as…yesterday. In a gooey Valentine’s Day poem.
It involved bacon.
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*once again donning hazmat suit before offering hugs*
Such courtesy in not infecting certainly deserves a tactful ignoring of any such puddles.
:)
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I agree!
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Hit-and-run-compatible *hugs* for FossilFishy.
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drbunsen!!!
*hugs*
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Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 12:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Two minutes of nothing but goats yelling like humans
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 12:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson:
♥ You have every right to be proud of her.
drbunsen – *pouncehug*
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 12:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
JAL
Good to see you! Thanks for the update.
opposablethumbs
Welcome back : )
rowanvt
I endorse the latter, then the former course of action.
IANAL. I guess it should be IANYL. :)WMDKitty
Burma shave: I went to the historical society meeting full of elderly people two days ago, otherwise I wouldn’t have gotten the reference, ha! They recited the punchline in unison after several verses read by the president of the club.
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Hugs and commiserations where appropriate. Also hot (or cold) tea and tissues for Tigger and rq.
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Wall o’text to follow, feel free to skim or skip.
I had a fun experience last night. And by “fun” I mean…”triggered in public.” I went to a show with a male friend, J, as a distraction from all the Valentine’s hubbub and my lack of a Valentine™. The friend was sort of…touchy, but I wasn’t really bothered and didn’t pay much attention. Long story short, at one point J asked if I wanted a fifth beer, and I declined. I declined about 10 times, during which he was putting his arm around me and tickling me and ignoring my firm “No, I have to be in court in the morning.” “No, and you are over the line now.” He finally accepted my answer, but by that time I was shaking with rage and fear. I had left my car at his house, and we were several miles away. I sat there listening to the music for a minute more, then picked up my coat and just left. All I could think was “I never feel unsafe with S.”
J texted me asking where I went. There are no cabs to be had around here, so I called S. He was still up, it was about 10:30. He said he would be there asap, no questions asked. When he got there J had called me and yelled and yelled at me for leaving. I got in S’s car and had a breakdown. Sobbing, shaking, explaining. He held my hand. He listened as I told him how helpless and scared and isolated I felt. At the end, I apologized and said “We didn’t have to sit here for me to tell you all that…” S said, “Yes, we did.” And then he put my phone in his pocket so I wouldn’t have to know when J was sending me yet another nasty text message. (I read them this morning. The last one said he would be ready to talk when I was ready to apologize).
Writing it out I feel like it doesn’t look like that serious of a thing. But unlike in the past when my boundaries have been violated, I feel confident I did the right thing for myself. I’m really ok with J thinking I’m crazy or “immature” or whatever he wants to think. I needed to get out of there, and I got out of there. I needed to feel safe, and I found safety. J said he was concerned for my safety, but I don’t think it’s true. If that were the case, he wouldn’t have been angry with me after I answered his first phone call to tell him I was fine, and had left. He wouldn’t have insisted on an explanation when none would satisfy him. He really has no idea what it’s like to feel powerless. He said he “felt responsible” for me since I rode there with him. Couldn’t grasp that I, a fully autonomous adult, was absolving him of any responsibility.
So. I guess it’s a week for unfriending.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 12:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Seconding Esteleth’s question “what is the vervet paper?”
rq
15 February 2013 at 12:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia
*hugs* and no, I don’t think you were being unreasonable. I had a similar experience with refusing a [next] drink, and being ignored, right down to having that drink ordered for me. Told him he could drink it himself and left.
I think you very much did the right thing.
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It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s a… snake? Somebody explain to me how they can do this??
glodson
15 February 2013 at 12:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hekuni Cat, MQG,
Thanks. I was actually thinking about people who say that we need god to be good. It was just an idle thought I was having while watching the news. I was thinking about how compassion and empathy are probably the most effect ways of getting people to act for the benefit of their fellow person.
Then my little daughter, with no religion in her life, said that to me. Her want to see her friends smile made her happy. She was excited. It was only after I dropped her off that I realized I heard something wonderful.
It made up for the time I got yelled at by a room full of preschoolers when I called my daughter “my baby.” They reminded me, in no uncertain terms, that she is a big girl and I was the baby.
Beatrice
15 February 2013 at 12:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia,
*safe virtual hugs*
You did what was right for you. J shouldn’t be asking for an apology, he should be giving one. You have nothing to apologize for.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 12:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq they flatten out their bodies forming a concave “wing” of sorts
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 12:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
Aww, so many hugs. J sounds pretty entitled and self centered. I am glad S was able to pick you up. Sorry for getting triggered.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 12:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
stupid submit
then while gliding along they do a “little dance” (technical term) that allows them to stay stable in the air.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 12:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia – You absolutely did the right thing in leaving. And I am very happy that S was there for you. *many hugs and lots of chocolate*
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 12:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson:
Sounds like you have a very caring daughter. Awesome!
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
15 February 2013 at 12:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good morning all!
Glad to see a call-back to my “The Peez jumping the
sharkcephalopod” thing!Hugs and booze and after-holiday candy in a big pile for anyone who needs them. I’m going to go work on my music room for a bit. I think I need a little table for a laptop and speakers, so I can play along with backing tracks and maybe even someday record something or other.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 12:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
In case anyone was worried about that goat video, it is humor and not violence. If you are having a bad day, it’s worth a quick watch.
Giliell, professional cynic
15 February 2013 at 12:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good evening
Portia
OMG that is so horrible.
That really is a person whose company you should not miss and by that I mean you should not miss that you’ll never see him again. It’s one thing to cross a line once. But to constantly cross them is another thing.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 12:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony:
Thanks. She’s wonderful. I’m worried I’m screwing it up, but I think that is a fear that any parent feels.
Portia:
You did the right thing. This being from someone on the outside, but when you say “Writing it out I feel like it doesn’t look like that serious of a thing,” I disagree. It seems quite serious. Maybe it wasn’t. Maybe J… I don’t. Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing and the smart thing.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 12:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
I do not think I have your email. I am @ tanthonyv at the yahoo thingee…
broboxley OT
15 February 2013 at 12:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia, whoever J is we know what he is, a complete (insert appropriate insult here). First rule of having drinks with people of interest. No touchy unless requested. Drinking with Acquaintances 101
mythbri
15 February 2013 at 12:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Portia
J’s statement about HIM being ready to talk when YOU are ready to apologize is no bueno. To me, it comes off as him being unwilling to examine his behavior. He’s not questioning anything he did, and what he did made you feel unsafe. You should not have to feel that way.
You did the right thing.
cicely (Damn! I forgot to change my 'nym!)
15 February 2013 at 12:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rey Fox: Are we on a *hugs* basis? I seem to have a vague possible-memory/possible-misattribution that you weren’t comfortable with *hugs*. But ignoring you seems so wrong.
So. Either *hugs* or *waves*, whichever you prefer.
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*hugs* for Portia, with a *dead fish upside the head* chaser for J.
Another, larger *dead fish upside the head* for J—which clearly stands for “Jerk”.
*moar hugs*
But it was! Asshole ignored the hell out of your boundaries, and it’s clear that he felt Entitled.
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Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 12:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jebus, Portia! I got creepy-crawlies reading that. Fuck J. He sounds like an ass.
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 12:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m reminded of a d00d I knew in graduate school who would (1) get extremely drunk (2) paw at me/hit on me and (3) say “Why are you giving any credence to shit I do when drunk?” when I called him on this.
Needless to say, I quickly started avoiding this guy.
rq
15 February 2013 at 1:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia
You’re definitely not the one who needs to be apologizing in this situation.
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Rev.
I’d like to see how that looks in cross-section… Either way, an amazing little piece of the animal kingdom. (“Little dance” is technical language? :D Looks like they’re just doing the twist…)
ChasCPeterson
15 February 2013 at 1:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
gah!!
*ducks, creeps away behind the shrubbery*
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
15 February 2013 at 1:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia, that sounds horrible, and the fact that your “friend” thinks you’re in the wrong instead of considering what he did that would make you leave that way? Not someone worth having as a friend. Seriously, what the fuck?!?!
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 1:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So…the vervet paper is something that makes Chas hide.
Okay?
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 1:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq
At one point I did tell him that if he brought another one it would sit there on the table and not be drunk. Drank? Whatever. That was unconvincing, apparently.
Beatrice
Thank you. I actually laughed when I saw his demand for an apology.
Tony:
Yeah, and I had chosen to forgive the less-egregious expressions of it in the past, because we’ve been friends for about ten years now. Guess he just needed to find my limit.
Hekuni Cat:
Me too. So much. Also, nom nom nom chocolate : )
Giliell:
You’re totally right. For a moment, I was sad to lose a friend. Then I realized it’s a joy to lose a totally crappy friend.
Glodson:
Thanks for that. I tried not to think about his motives either… he claimed (in that shouty phone call) that he was trying to make sure that I wasn’t feeling like a mooch for letting him buy me another drink. In reality, he had refused to take my money, which is just another way he didn’t listen to me…
Broboxley:
Great point. A few minutes before, he was all pissy because his male friend had set a touching boundary that J felt was “uptight”. Oh that reminds me, he called me uptight several times.
Mythbri:
You couldn’t be more right. The full text of his final text:
“Um, idk how to put this ‘tactfully’ but fuck this. It shouldn’t take me being concerned for your safety to broach this subject. If you have a problem with me or how I act, bring it to me like an adult would. This was dumb and immature tonight. I hope you made it home safe but wtf [portia]!? Were better friends than this! I feel like I should be able to confide in you not have to play csi and track your ass down! Tonight was stupid, and believe it or not, it wasn’t me. I’ll be ready to talk about this when youre ready to apologize. Take care, be safe.”
I don’t know why he put “tactfully” in quotation marks, but *shrug* I don’t know exactly what the rest of it even means, because he was under no obligation to “track me down” …he knew I was safe, because I told him so. We weren’t even in a bad area.
Cicely:
Ha! That’s a great idea. Let’s just call him Jerk : ) I approve of your methods, as well. He needs a cluebyfour. In news that will surprise no one, he is always argumentative and resistant to anything I say that is remotely feminist. He is the one who told me both that women are at fault in their harassment for not being firm in their rejection, but also that women should be more polite when rejecting men.
Thank you. You’re totally right.
Can’t thank you all enough for the hugs and support. I feel so much better. You are all so wonderful.
On the plus side, we have about one mutual friend anymore, and she is feminist and admires my ability to not take unwelcome advances. I’ve actually stood up to handsy assholes on her behalf in the past. So I think she’ll understand.
I’ve been wondering what the hell I would apologize for, even if I were to. “Sorry I didn’t properly grovel in appreciation of your largess”? “Sorry I answered my phone to let you know I was ok and had gotten a different ride”? I just don’t know.
Glodson
Your little one sounds wonderful. It’s so great when something so small makes you realize something so significant. : )
ChasCPeterson
15 February 2013 at 1:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*throws note tied to rock over hedge and scrams*
Katherine Lorraine, Tortue du Désert avec un Coupe-Boulon
15 February 2013 at 1:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
OH DEAR GOD FLYING SNAKES?!
*never coming out of the house*
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 1:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh. That is the vervet paper. *shakes head*
For amusement: a song I found and laughed at. Here is the live version, complete with some commentary on the subject by the singer. This singer also has written songs about salads, a ninja who wants to be an exhibitionist, and a 17-minute jig of Peter Pan fanfiction. :D
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 1:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson:
Tee hee. Of course she isn’t a baby; babies don’t go to preschool. :D
Portia:
There’s a major tell that’s he’s bad news in my opinion.
Damned if you don’t, damned if you do.
cicely
15 February 2013 at 1:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ha! More likely, “I’m so, so sorry that I took your words and actions the wrong way. Can you ever forgive (unworthy, hysterical (deliberate use of the word, in this context)) me? I promise to read your mind better (and take it the right way) next time!”
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UnknownEric is just a spudboy, looking for a quantum tomato.
15 February 2013 at 1:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My head just exploded.
J sounds like a Jerk.
chigau (違う)
15 February 2013 at 1:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m off-line until Monday evening.
Y’all be good.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 1:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“I will only see you for the Nice Guy™ you are!”
Oh wait, that one’s true. }:)
Yep, pretty much. In between those two edicts was me saying I sometimes just literally ignore drunk entitled assholes who want my attention. Then I was told that well, I mean, you didn’t have to be so mean.
Very much damned either way.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 1:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*waves at chigau*
have a good weekend!
I’ll be back in a bit, y’all. Gotta run an errand.
Giliell, professional cynic
15 February 2013 at 1:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So, Mr. and I decided to support the Kasese Humanist school. I hope they can give me a way to make a monthly contribution because duh, even though we could probably manage 250 bucks a year we can’t manage that at once.
Mr. fell a bit for the “poor children in Africa condescending bullshit with colour picture and handwritten thank-you letters” in the media and asked me some time ago if we wanted to do that and I totally despise that.
A) I don’t want to help for the “thanks”
B) I don’t want to “pick a child”.
C) I want whole communities to thrive.
I’m much more comfortable with supporting an entire school where the people who run it know best how to use the funds.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 1:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ Portia
Thanks, my little does that often. And sometimes she just comes up with off the wall. She told my wife that “water and orange makes purple.” Then she stubbornly argued the point, as best she could. Hell, the other day, she had a dirty pull-up but didn’t want to change it. She ran away from me while grabbing her bottom while shouting “I want to keep my poopie diaper!”
About J: He definitely wasn’t listening, and his motives don’t matter. Good riddance to that jerk.
@ Hekuni Cat
It is hard to not call her my baby. She’s going to be my only child. It is so distressing on how fast she’s growing up. But I can’t wait to take her to the local natural history museum. I think she’s going to love it.
rq
15 February 2013 at 2:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson
You definitely have a winner of a daughter there! :)
And I’m with Hekuni Cat – ;) babies don’t go to preschool! (But they could stand to grow up a little slower, sometimes – in certain aspects (potty training, I do not miss).)
Portia
Wait, he said what?? I do not understand how he can believe that you were in the wrong, with that last text… I’m tripling up with broboxley and cicely, here – J = Jerk. 100% unrefined. Best unfriended. Because, shit, knowing each other ten years? You owe him nothing.
Also, belatedly, I’m very very glad S could be there for you. :)
chigau
Have a good weekend!
Katherine
That was my first thought… But I’m pretty sure they’re location-specific snakes, as long as they don’t start teaching their fellow ophids.
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 2:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thank you cicely! And Portia! I’m really touched, I feel this will sound silly but I really am. I’m trying to do a sort of mini-catch-up, but so much has happened. I’m reading bits of many-days-old threads and longing to kick certain persons – and offer respectful hugs to certain others. I never ever thought I’d think of creationists as light relief, but frankly compared with some of the revolting specimens of sexism and misogyny who have been around lately the creationists are almost, almost … funny.
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Just reading some of the horrible rape-apologetics from a few days back in the Dome. It’s odd-but-not-odd to think that in the ’70s and ’80s I crashed with male friends any number of times and never expected to be there as anything other than a friend and fellow human being. My DaughterSpawn was in a similar situation a few months ago, in another town, very late night finish to her shift at a part-time job she’s doing to help make ends meet while studying, had to crash with a (male) co-worker due to combination of circumstances (no longer in her old student room but not yet in her new shared digs so nowhere to sleep and much too late to get a train back to our town). Shared a bed, had breakfast, thanks for putting me up for the night, see you at work next week. But I’ll confess that I might not have been completely worry-free if her co-worker had been straight :-(
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I really really hate it if someone (come to think of it, this has only ever happened with a bloke) insists on ordering another drink after I’ve said no, thank you. It’s like, what is wrong with you? You offered me another drink, I said no thanks. Why isn’t that the end of it? What is your problem!? Last time that happened I left a whole completely untouched pint of good beer on the table. Why did you choose to deliberately waste a pint of good beer, friend-who-chose-to-ignore-my-answer? Sounds like J was being a real asshole at that moment, Portia, he was well over the line and he totally owes you an apology.
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Glodson, it’s lovely to read how much you and your daughter are enjoying some good times together. And that you’re planning the great natural history museum trip already :-D
glodson
15 February 2013 at 2:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ rq
Thanks. The whole potty training thing, at least so far, has been a disaster. I don’t know how others have done it, and I have no clue what I’m doing. I’ve never thought I would be arguing with someone around two feet tall about why she shouldn’t be afraid of the toilet. I doubt she’s afraid of the toilet, she just says she’s afraid of whatever she really doesn’t want to do.
@opposablethumbs
I do have an ulterior motive for this. And it isn’t that I really want to go myself, it is that my brother is homeschooling his child and is of the creationist set. My little girl is clever, intelligent, and enjoys dinosaurs. She’ll be a great little logic bomb.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
15 February 2013 at 2:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia
safe *hugs*. That asshole was the asshole there, and you’ve got nothing to apologize for to anyone. Add me also to those who are very glad that S was able to help out.
@things kids do:
The other day, one of the kindergartners at my school wrote me a little thank you note.
cicely
15 February 2013 at 2:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“How can I get you drunk (and willing (or at least, confused and unlikely to litigate)) if you don’t drink?!?”
</cynicism>
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Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 2:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Who was it that had a blah day recently?
My blah day is teetering on the egde of utter melancholy. An upswing in my dating life seems unable to counteract my financial woes.
::sigh::
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
15 February 2013 at 2:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely:
I do not think that is cynicisn. It’s reality. I have watched many times as a guy attempts to buy a woman another drink, despite her refusal. Sometimes he backs off. Sometimes he is very insistent. Too often it’s like an ego blow “what, are you too good to take another drink from me?” (Translated: ” I do not care whether you want it or not. I want you to have another. You have no agency here. Do as I say.”)
Catrambi
15 February 2013 at 2:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia
Sounds like a pretty serious and horrible situation to me. His behaviour sucks. I recognize the pattern.
cicely
15 February 2013 at 3:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony: I think there was something approaching a consensus that Monday sucked on toast. We voted to have a do-over, but it seems that Reality vetoed it.
Stooopid Reality….
You have my sympathies in your financial woes.
Stooopid Financial Woes….
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glodson
15 February 2013 at 3:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony: my day got a boost this morning. And it is a vast improvement over the past two days, as I’m not as ill as I was. So, there’s that too.
Goddamn, that’s sad. I’m happy that I am slightly less ill than I was the past two days.
rq
15 February 2013 at 3:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson
Just don’t force it. A lot of kids take their own time about it (usually too long for the parents). It may help to have one of those little toilets around (eldest used one until he was about 4, just because), for her to see all the time. Or read a book on the damn thing, that got middle child ‘engaged’ in the activity. But most of all, don’t put pressure on her, especially since she seems like she can argue her way out of things she doesn’t like. If she has a favourite stuffed animal, get that to go potty first, and then tell her all about how absolutely wonderful!!! it is. :)
And remember, everyone grows out of their diapers. Eventually. ;)
rq
15 February 2013 at 3:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony
I hope the Financial Woes take a hint and go bother someone else!! Crappy, having that overshadow your recent excitements. :( *hugs*
rq
15 February 2013 at 3:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama
re: note – that is so sweet!!
Esteleth, Ficus Putsch Knits
15 February 2013 at 3:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony, do you need help from the Hordefund?
glodson
15 February 2013 at 3:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ rq
Oh, we’ve stopped directly trying at this point. The people at her school(it is a lab school which is accredited and attached to the local community college, they are excellent, and even have an observation room) told us that we have to let her direct it for the best results. So we’re going with that.
I guess I will try the animal approach. Her “Monkey Man” will soon know the joys of going potty. That is a sentence I never thought I would ever type.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 3:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson:
I would have loved it at her age (or any age to be honest). Please consider this a polite request for an update after your trip.
chigau – Enjoy your weekend!
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 3:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson:
Sometimes small improvements are all you’re going to get, so you might as well enjoy them.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 3:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hekuni Cat:
Not a problem. It might be some time, we’re cash strapped. I’m hopping to take her over my Spring Break. I think she’s going to love it, and they just finished the new museum out here. She loved the zoo and the aquarium, and even the art museum. I think she’ll love this too.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 3:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Grrrr…. I really wish the clueless anti-choice moron, or the Pope Apologist, would come back around on the other blog I’m spamming.
I’m getting tired of waiting for them to come and be stupid at me.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 4:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
opposablethumbs
Thank you. I really doubt I’ll ever get it, but c’est la vie.
cicely
Holy shit, cicely. He made a joke about getting me or someone else, I can’t remember, drunk because *wink wink ha ha* and I said bluntly, “Because then the rape is easier, hooray!” and gave him a dirty look. He laughed, “Yep, exactly!”
…how have I not unfriended this guy before.
The real tragedy of the evening was that I had stuck a quart of ice cream (long story) in his freezer for cold-keeping while we were out. It was good ice cream. It’s gone forever. *sniffle*
Tony
Hugs for the financial situation. Hopefully it’s better soon.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
15 February 2013 at 4:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony
Financial woes suck big time, man *hugs*
cicely
Got it in one.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 4:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
whoa. For a second, I blamed myself for telling J(erk) that S(aver?) and I had broken up. Because it was only after that that J has started acting a little…too friendly. But it’s not my fault that he sees singledom as opportunity to be predatory. It’s not my fucking fault he’s a creep.
And while I’m listing his flaws, he tried to claim I had less nerd cred than he did. I pulled out my Wonder Woman keychain in indignation. Then he claimed I was wrong, there were no comic book stores in the area. No “dedicated” ones. He wouldn’t concede the point even with my phone’s yelp app staring him in the face.
I think this is me reveling in the fact that he’s never going to speak to me again.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 4:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
RBDC:
That goats thing has me rolling
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 4:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely
Yeah, that is certainly a very common (maybe the most common) scenario. This particular time though I think it was just sheer “I know better than you do what you want” crossed with “my display of status as moneyed and generous enough is more important than what you actually want” (on the grounds that there were four of us present – selectively-deaf friend, woman friend of my partner (with whom selectively-deaf was going out), my partner and me.
Tony
Yup, that’s the one – or certainly a big part of it.
I hope your financial woes are soon behind you. Um, ditto for a lovely bloke involved in the upswing in your dating life. (I know I’m at least teetering on the edge of being inappropriate there; if I’m over the edge I apologise unreservedly and won’t do it again)
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Portia
Holy shit. Fucking huge red flag. I agree, the only real loss was the ice-cream. Damn.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 4:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And thanks, Dalillama : )
This morning I told S I was sorry I had a Major Crisis and required rescuing and he walked across the room and put his arms around me and said, “I will always come get you.” *warmfuzzies*
We will soon return you all to your regularly scheduled Lounge programming, the Portia Show has gone past it’s end time : )
drbunsen, le savant fous
15 February 2013 at 4:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia,
It’s not often that I do an actual, IRL, sideways head-tilt…
Sounds pretty serious from here.
As for his alleged “concern for your safety”? If he was remotely concerned for your safety he wouldn’t have tried to get you drunk(er than you were comfortable with) and gotten grabby. That is not safe. You were safer outside on the street that inside with him.
As Esteleth said
Creep factor, rising, rising…
RIIISIIINGGG….
And there we have it.
*hugs* if welcome, Portia,
And *hugs* for all what likes em :)
Cerberus from Time Forgot
15 February 2013 at 4:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Impending unemployment update:
Just had a meeting with my big boss and the HR head. Thanks to the procedures of termination, I’ve got a little bit of lifeline to scramble and find new employment before that all comes crashing down on me. Officially, I’m “on written warning”, so if “things don’t improve” i.e. when they find some more small minor things they can use to claim “we’ve operated on good faith and the employee couldn’t meet our requests”, then they’ll begin the official termination procedures.
Overall, coming out of the meeting I have little illusions that I can magically manage to be perfect enough to avoid those further disciplinary actions, though I’m definitely going to be memorizing the pages of pages of “written protocols”, especially those that differ from verbal instructions from bosses in order to buy myself enough time to apply and interview. I also have little illusion that the HR department will be any kind of option for complaining about my treatment. The HR director on her own upgraded the minor thing my boss had me on into “failing to follow protocols” so that any failure to follow any protocols ever in any form can be used as the cudgel leading to my “final warning” and was very careful to show the neat way she’s categorized everything so that even if I wanted to appeal my case, they’d have a very neat and tight defense (even though I didn’t even get to bring that up yet… so another one on the hmm suspicious file).
I’m still incredibly highly rated by the visiting teachers, students, and everybody else and the kids haven’t had the same problem as the system has had to my gender presentation.
Oh, and I noticed something that’s probably been affecting my mood of late. In order to better protect themselves from me having any legal recourse to this shit, they’ve been very careful to always state in the midst of everything how “disappointed they are in me because I’m ‘too old’ for these sorts of conversations” and that “we’re being very fair here and just looking out for your rights” while using said rights as the excuse to pull this bullying crap. There was even an odd moment in the meeting where the HR director noted that I was an “untrustworthy source of information” because of the aforementioned “disappointing failure to follow the protocols” (another one on the hmm, suspicious category), especially as I hadn’t yet even begun to call them out on all this shit.
And this has been mixed with my boss all this time apparently urging more conservative staff members to officially complain to her with information with how I’ve “scared them”, “been too authoritarian”, or “critiquing their teaching style” (when given a task to critique their teaching style), so that I’ve been walking on egg shells there and constantly falling short. In addition, I was berated for talking to other lab instructors and trying to piece together with them what exactly was going on on the upper level (because I was talking behind people’s backs, apparently).
What’s sick about all that is that this reinforcement of isolation (no one can help you, so don’t bother fighting back), lack of support (no one will believe you if you complain to anyone who matters), and mysterious personal failures (why aren’t you good enough to meet our simple requests) adds up to a bullying style designed to drive the subject to suicide or depression. Making them feel alone, attacked, and personally responsible for their pain and increasing the likelihood of suicide in suspect populations all so that the company has enough layers of support to resist any attempt by the employee to petition for equal treatment and justice.
And I don’t even think it’s even being done fully consciously. So they are unconsciously performing roles designed to try and make me more suicidal and depressed and perpetrating bigotry simply because that is the culture they are stewing in and the precedent set for companies when dealing with “problem minorities” (another trans friend stated the same exact campaign of harassment and BS happened to her at a different unrelated company).
Oh bonus turd in the punch bowl? The thing that got them the excuse to advance to written warning was completely unavoidable, requested by my superior, and as I’ve discovered, intended to occur on some level. Being unable to fill the “protocol” exact enough was a necessity of time and how I was scheduled when given a long promised rotation on the lead position. During the meetings, both my boss and HR director were big on how I really needed to follow the protocols and asked the big boss or the manager of the day for help if I was swamped like that.
Well, from one of my fellow lab instructors (the one I’m not supposed to be comparing notes with because “talking behind people’s backs”) noted that she was recently denied her promised rotation as lead (she’s been getting on and off again bullshit on a variety of levels for what I now realize was befriending the tranny) and the excuse she was given was that “when (my name) was given the lead, it involved a lot more micromanaging on my part and so I just don’t have time (to fulfill my direct promise to you) to give you that opportunity” (inaccurate, I actually covered a lot more and involved the big boss directly a lot less than previous rotating leads).
So if I hadn’t given them this in here, that was going to be the line of attack. But I guarantee they were hoping I wasn’t comparing notes anymore because they were claiming the exact opposite in their dressing down of me (I decided not to press this point as I didn’t want to get my ally in any more trouble than she’s already been for standing up for me). This would be one of many reasons why I know that the lifeline for procedures is just that and that they’ll find something for the “final warning” in 3 weeks or so no matter what I do.
So yeah, lifeline good, systematic and brutal oppression to end run around guaranteed legal protections bad.
Luckily Valentine’s Day was awesome with my partners and should be continuing into this weekend so I can wash some of the taste of this whole bullshit out of my mouth.
Caine, brigade de garces
15 February 2013 at 4:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Has anyone heard from Kristinc? Her last blog posts were in September and October last year.
Cerberus from Time Forgot
15 February 2013 at 4:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia-
Bob in a Hummel figurine, that is horrifying. Even if that was a joke (BIG BIG if), that’s not… just no. I’m glad you managed to navigate out of that situation okay.
Big hug!
Nutmeg
15 February 2013 at 5:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine: kristinc is active on PET these days and seems to be fine.
Caine, brigade de garces
15 February 2013 at 5:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nutmeg:
*Phew* Okay, thanks for letting me know. I was a tad worried.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 5:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia,
What a bastard. I know how easy it is to make excuses for crappy people. I live in fucking Texas, where you can easily meet people who say the most vile and bigoted things so politely… and in a weird case of cognitive dissonance, you can easily find yourself rewriting your own memories and making excuses for them because they were outwardly nice, just because you’ve invested some emotional energy into the person. I know I’ve had a number of fuckwits that it took me years of talking to before I said “hey, this person is a fuckwit!”
And his comic book crap just makes me loathe him even more. I get the feeling he might be the kind of guy that makes me want to distance myself from geek culture.
But I have ice cream. It is Blue Bell. You can have it. If you don’t mind that it is mostly eaten already as a means to bribe someone into eating dinner.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 5:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus – *hugs and lots of chocolate* I wish I could do more.
opposablethumbs
15 February 2013 at 5:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus that is fucking horrible. I am so sorry you are being treated so appallingly. Is there any way at all you can get any mileage out of the good opinion of teachers and students? FSM but I hope you find another job and that it turns out to have decent people there. Crossing all my tentacles for you.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 5:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus: I know you don’t know me, but that is a terrible situation. I feel bad that I can only wish you well.
Cerberus from Time Forgot
15 February 2013 at 5:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
opposablethumbs-
With the HR director being rather “institution protective” with this shit, I wouldn’t have anywhere to bring them to have them have mileage in the institutions.
On the other hand, I can use a couple of teachers who said they’d be one of my references, one of whom I’ll definitely use as my replacement to any of the current bosses (a former boss who apparently was protecting me from all this shit is still on my references list because he was awesome). So that’s one good thing I can use. I might also give them a call if I decide to go the teaching certificate and then becoming a public school teacher to in-need student groups route (right now finding something, anything else that can pay the bills and not finish me off comes first).
So at least there’s that.
I also think that when they’ve rooted me out I’m going to write a blog post detailing all this crap and calling them out by name for their bullshit treatment of trans* employees. Maybe I can burn them that way on the way out. But yeah, making sure I can eat in a month is priority one before all that.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 5:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
drbunsen
That’s a great point. As it was, I ducked into the foyer of an adjacent (darkened, closed, creepy) building to wait for S. And the whole time, I was terrified that J would find me and bully me in person, like he was doing over the phone. I wasn’t very far away, he could have “tracked me down” easily. I told him over and over “If you don’t stop yelling at me I’m going to hang up.” He yelled that he wasn’t yelling, he was telling me how I made him feel. Super high creep factor. : /
Hugs accepted, thank you.
glodson
This makes a lot of sense and makes me feel like less of a failure for hanging around him for so long.
Yeah, come to think of it he’s sort of awful-typical of the worst of the culture.
Yes, please! I’d love to share with your awesome little person. : )
Cerberus
Thanks for the hugs. I offer some in return for your crappy situation : ( I second the hope that you can get some good use out of the good feedback from students.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 5:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Very glad to hear that.
Cerberus from Time Forgot
15 February 2013 at 5:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson @361
Dittoing this. Abusive, sociopathic, or bullying people are usually really good at figuring out how to get footholds in people’s tolerances and expand them more and more. Especially when they are borderline rapists or full-on rapists. We want to think well of people we know and interact with regularly because we don’t want to live in a world where they really are as terrible as they seem. Unfortunately, that tendency also ends up being abused to the point where you’re investing huge emotional energy in ignoring the various red flags or full-on abusive behavior.
Which leads to:
Portia-
You shouldn’t at all feel bad for letting him have more slack than you’re feeling now like you should have given him. It’s completely natural to do so. Even now with all the shit that’s being telegraphed at my work, I’m finding myself being very forgiving and going “well, maybe they are doing it unconsciously” or “maybe I’m just being paranoid” or “is it really as bad as it’s seeming” and really hesitating to fight back with my full power.
And the people who take advantage of that impulse are really good at doing so.
The best thing you could have done for yourself is distancing yourself before it escalated to a really bad place. But even if you hadn’t, that wouldn’t have made any of this your fault or you silly for ignoring red flags, because it’s never the victim’s fault in any situation what shit they end up having to deal with from the person committing the abuse or offense.
drbunsen, le savant fous
15 February 2013 at 5:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jeeeeebus pole-vaulting chryst on a flaming moped, Cerberus, that is So. Not. Okay. What a horror story :(
I’m really glad that you are able to see and articulate so clearly the bullshit pattern of gaslighting and abuse going on there. I hope it helps some :(
David Marjanović
15 February 2013 at 5:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus!!! :-) :-) :-) So happy to see you here again!
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O hai!
Petition to Harry Reid to reopen the process of filibuster reform! He said if the Reptilians continue to obstruct, he’ll think about reopening the process…
kthxbai
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 5:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus:
QFT
thunk, new years, new dreams
15 February 2013 at 5:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus: Ouch, sorry about that shit. But at least you’ve the silver lining of the couple of teachers.
Cerberus from Time Forgot
15 February 2013 at 6:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What pisses me off the most I think at the end of the day is how much the kids are being fucked over. Forget me being good at my job, engaging, and not as -ist as some of the other lab instructors sadly are. There were some great critical encounters with trans* kids just trying to figure out that I was able to serve as adult role model for. There was even a great interaction where a parent asked me to give their trans* kid some advice and mentoring and I gave him a great “It gets better” bit using myself and my position as teacher as an example.
By the time those kids do get where I am, hopefully it really will be better, but it pisses me off that they are being denied that opportunity and cis kids are denied the opportunity having a positive memorable interaction with a trans* person because a bunch of suited corrosive molecules in the corporate side and their Southern evangelical leader (yeah, of a science museum…sigh) are too backwards to let it continue.
On the plus side, it makes me even more committed to trans justice. I want that kid I promised that it gets better to, the one I told that if she can just make it through middle school and high school, to find herself in a world where it really is true and where she will react to stories like mine the way we in modern times react to the discrimination narratives of gay teachers back in the 70s.
glodson
15 February 2013 at 6:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
Yea, don’t feel bad that you let someone like that get close. It happens. It is so easy for it to happen. None of that was your fault. Sometimes, it just takes time for the emotions to catch up.
I still miss going to the comic book stores, I just don’t have the time or money. I am way out of date, but I always hated those jackasses. Being someone who wants to grow any fanbase of the things, I never understood why some idiots want to keep certain groups out. But that’s another problem.
And good luck sharing with her, she’ll look at yours and ask if it is hers too. She’s a mess.
Also, my anti-choice chew-toy showed back up. Ah, that was the stupidity I was waiting for. What a moron.
Finally, I don’t think I’ve ever introduced myself. I just started to delurk one day. Hi, I’m Glodson. I blatantly stole this name from my favorite author. I’m a newish atheist, trying to figure out exactly what it means to me. It mostly seems to mean that I don’t feel guilt for making fun of Jesus, and that social justice issues matter even more to me. I partly lurked because I always felt slightly dumb reading the comments, so I never posted. But seeing some of the anti-feminists made me realize that I’m not that dumb.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 6:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Glodson, we’re glad you delurked.
carlie
15 February 2013 at 7:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Does anyone else watch Gravity Falls (you should all watch Gravity Falls) ?
Besides there finally being a new episode on tonight, I’ve just seen the most awesome tv show reference scarf ever here.
Jeez, Cerberus, that’s so awful. I’m glad you’ve got some who can be references, and enough time to get all their information at least.
Have a Balloon
15 February 2013 at 7:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia
o.O
That’s appalling. You absolutely did the right thing. I read your story and immediately Schrodinger’s Rapist went DING in my head. You, know the part where it says something like “if you ignore my ‘no’ in this situation, that tells me that my consent isn’t important to you. If consent isn’t important to you, that is a huge red flag”. Then I read further down the thread about his other comments and yes there it is. Partly because this is an anonymous forum and I can’t get sued, I would have no problem saying that he is a rapist-in-waiting and RUN RUN FAR AWAY. I’m glad to hear that you’re safe.
Cerberus
I’m sorry to hear about your job. The importance of having visible trans* and gay teachers is something I hadn’t considered much in the past but hearing about how you have been a great role model makes me angry that your bosses are kicking you out because they’re bigots. I hope you can find a new place to work where they appreciate you for what you do instead of hating you for who you are.
casus fortuitous
I’ve noticed it’s not just feminism in the Guardian these days that gets clueless privilege comments. Articles about racism, homophobia and religion tend to attract them these days as well. Though I think the difference is that there are more people willing to argue back in the latter two.
On the topic of the media, I’d like to take this opportunity to say a huge UP YOURS to the Sun, the New York Post and the Daily News. She was a law graduate. She was outspoken about violence against women. She campaigned to stop rape and she was an amazing role model. She was not just ‘his model girlfriend.’ #hernamewasReevaSteenkamp.
(Are we allowed to swear in the Lounge? I can go to Thunderdome and swear there)
drbunsen, le savant fous
15 February 2013 at 7:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Unknown Eric, your son’s model of cosmogenesis is fascinating, and I wish to subscribe to his newsletter.
♥
Josh, Official SpokesGay
15 February 2013 at 7:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi, lounge.
1. ‘Rupt.
2. New jammy pants.
John Morales
15 February 2013 at 7:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Have a Balloon: by God, you can swear to your heart’s content.
Damn those who daren’t curse!
Fuck those who object to vulgar language!
:)
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 7:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh – *pouncehug* Yay new jammy pants!
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
15 February 2013 at 7:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey Josh, thanks for sharing. Are they a cool/funky color?
John Morales
15 February 2013 at 7:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jeez, I wish I’d written “by God’s wrinkly, swollen scrotum” above…
(It’s more blasphemous!)
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
15 February 2013 at 7:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus, I’m sorry as hell about your work situation. At least you can see the writing on the wall, and can maybe have something in the works before you’re let go? I mean, I know it isn’t much of a bright side at all, but it is something.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
15 February 2013 at 8:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jesus, Cerberus. I have nothing to say except I’m Rage Sorry. God damn it.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
15 February 2013 at 8:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hekuni Kitteh! Hey baby.
Joe—that’s a fabulous new ‘nym you’ve got. A real classic!
The jammy pants are just plain old blue Hanes. But they’re my favorite jersey knit lightweight comfy kind. They are for lounging, not really for sleeping. Sleeping happens naked.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
15 February 2013 at 8:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jammies are great for lounging. I am wearing my hilariously named “spot crop sleep pant” right now.
carlie
15 February 2013 at 9:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dare I ask in what spot it is cropped?
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
15 February 2013 at 9:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
heh heh. They are actually black with small purple spots. And cropped length pants, so just below the knee. But “spot crop sleep pant” is what it said on the label.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 9:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus
Thank you. I needed to hear this.
<blockquote)And the people who take advantage of that impulse are really good at doing so.
Oh, wow, that is so true.
Glodson
Thanks for that. I just realized that J was one of my few friends that I hung out with regularly, and what with S (who, if you haven’t been following the Soap Opera de Portia, is the recent ex) being…um, less available, I’m going to have to work harder at being sufficiently socially exposed so that I don’t slip into the blues. Damn
Oh, and hello! Glad you de-lurked.
It turns out the replacement ice cream I got is Blue Bunny : ) It’s a little softy for my tastes, but I am satiated.
Have a Balloon
You’re right about the consent issue. His disregard for boundaries was what really tipped off all my alarms, and literally sent me running.
Josh
Hello! I am also wearing new jammie pants for lounging.
Cerberus
I’m so sorry there’s such an added layer of suck to you being removed from that position. I’m glad you were able to reach as many kids as you did, though. I’m confident you will continue to have such a positive impact on the world.
Has anyone told you you’re a gifted writer? I find myself gobbling up what you write.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 9:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I have no jammies
Rev. BigDumbChimp
15 February 2013 at 9:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good. Sounds like you could use it.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
15 February 2013 at 9:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
After many years finally had to replace my jammies. Got Haines. What is interesting is the tops, with pseudo long-sleeved tee-shirt “showing” (sewed on sleeve) below a regular short sleeved crew-necked tee-shirt.
cicely
15 February 2013 at 10:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia: I will join you in mourning the tragic loss of your ice cream. J, on the other hand (who on further reading looks suspiciously like one of those Nice Guys™ who is only your friend in hopes of fucking you first moment your guard is down) is well lost.
In fact, I suggest you make the special effort to lose him twice.
And maybe tell him so.
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Cerberus, I offer you *hugs* and *choice of beverage*. I wish I had useful suggestions I could offer.
:(
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From panic over kristinc to relief that she is all right, in less than 30 seconds. Nutmeg, would you *pouncehug* her on my behalf? And thank you for the status report. :)
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A belated Welcome In to glodson. I just assumed that you delurked in the [Thunderdome], and I missed it.
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Josh!
*pouncehug*
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John, John, John…it’s never too late for God’s wrinkly, swollen scrotum!
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My favorite store-boughten potato salad rings up as ‘Amish Pot’.
:)
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Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 10:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Apparently I can’t stop talking about the J Fiasco. I just talked to my mom on the phone and told her about it. She said I did the right thing, and that you always have to trust your gut. Then it hit me like it has in the past: it was my mom that taught me that. She taught me that being safe and comfortable in the face of creepiness is way more important that being polite all the time. She taught me that you can walk away, or run away, if you need to. It’s ok to make a scene if you have no other option for being safe. I was describing how unsafe I felt, and she said “…and betrayed.” Which sort of solidified another layer of feeling I had about it. What the hell kind of friend does that?
Thanks again for listening, everyone.
My first cable knit project is coming along nicely.
… I just realized that cicely rhymes with nicely. Ex: “When a horse runs into cicely, the encounter won’t end nicely.”
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 10:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, right. : / Sadly, you’re probably right. He did go on at length about how I’m one of his only friends that is smart…but that’s mostly a function of him thinking he’s better than other people because he graduated college.
God should really see a doctor about all that swelling…
thunk, new years, new dreams
15 February 2013 at 10:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia: Hi. Nice that it’s getting better.
I have always pronounced “cicely” as “Sicily”. To each their own.
also, has anyone tried the reverse wikipedia link game? Pick an article of your choice, and click on the LAST link before the “see also” section (in prose) that isn’t in parentheses.
You’ll be surprised at the number of categories you jump. However, there are some loops.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 10:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hm, good point, thunk. Now I want cicely to tell us the Right and Proper Pronunciation, because I didn’t even think of that.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
15 February 2013 at 10:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia, so sorry about the loss of your icecream. Your Mum sounds like she rocks. Lucky you!
But I always assumed that Cicely was pronounced like Sicily.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
15 February 2013 at 10:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea:
So did I.
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)
15 February 2013 at 10:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Why the fuck do people I want to respect insist on letting themselves be played by people who are basically addicted to “games” I wish didn’t exist?
cicely
15 February 2013 at 10:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia: Unfortunately, if a Horse runs into cicely, then cicely is a greasy spot on the turf.
On the other hand if cicely can get the drop on the unclean Beast, then It is toast.
*tunes up unlicensed nuclear accelerator, checks supply of napalm!*
Unfortunately, that can’t even be forced to rhyme.
*whispers* Burma Shave!
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Me, too. But if it gives Portia any pleasure to think of me as “sisal-y”, then I have no objection. As long as she calls me “friend”.
:)
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Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 10:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Man, my mental pronunciation patterns are way outnumbered : )
Azkyroth
Maybe the above discussion about letting people get away with crappy behavior is a factor in the answer to your question? Other than that I couldn’t tell you : /
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
15 February 2013 at 10:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What now, Azkyroth?
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 10:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea
Portia, so sorry about the loss of your icecream. Your Mum sounds like she rocks. Lucky you!
Thank you, the ice cream was definitely the biggest loss. That mother of mine is pretty wonderful, thanks : )
sais-leesih-sillyOh, bother, you are so good at making me giggle and smile and feel *warmfuzzees* Here, have a spontaneous *megahug* while I work on finding rhymes for Sicily. (Which I think fits all the better because it phonetically includes “silly” :D)
I lost it at Burma Shave.
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)
15 February 2013 at 10:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nothing. Never mind. >.>
cicely
15 February 2013 at 10:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
:)
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Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 10:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Blockquotes, how do they work? : p
cicely
15 February 2013 at 10:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ll be here all night;
Tip the veal.
It gave its all
To make this meal.
Burma Shame
;)
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Dalillama, Schmott Guy
15 February 2013 at 11:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I haven’t got much to add, except that Cerberus‘s situation continues to be unconscionable, Portia‘s ex-friend is still and asshole, and cerberus was totally right about the whole ‘investing emotionally in assholes’ thing.
L and D threw a Valentine’s celebration last night when I got home, much to my surprise. I had thought we weren’t doing the Valentine’ thing, but apparently I was mistaken, which was nice, as a good time was had by all.
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 11:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What a fun surprise, Dalillama.
Dhorvath, OM
15 February 2013 at 11:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So it’s not Sigh-Slee? I need to work on my reading.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
15 February 2013 at 11:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, shit.
I’mma just leave this economy-sized package of love, hugs, and comfies right here.
(I had a stoopid last night and eated chocolate. Off to deal with the results.)
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 11:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Finally, a comrade!
WMDKitty
Does chocolate give you headaches?
Portia, who will be okay.
15 February 2013 at 11:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
you guys
Marco Rubio is literally hocking water bottles to put those “liberal detractors” in their place,
I’m dying. Of laughter. Or thirst. If only I had the Senator here to hydrate me.
…that took a different subtext than I intended, but I’m not sorry.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
15 February 2013 at 11:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That was my first thought when I saw ‘he not only inspires you, he hydrates you’.
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
15 February 2013 at 11:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I can’t stop giggling at “he hydrates you.”
And now I’m cringing because that triggered a really bad memory involving The Jackass. *shudders* I’m not sure I can really explain, because it’s somewhat of a “had to be there” thing, the short of it is that I mentioned being thirsty and he said something to the effect of “I’ve got a tap right here”, and ewww. He also ruined the phrase “Hey, while you’re down there…”
Sorry.
I just ruined what should have been funny.
Hey, what’s the deal with the brain, anyway? Why can’t I remember things I want or need to remember, but can’t forget traumatic or embarrassing things?
Rey Fox
16 February 2013 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
They waste tons of plastic, they’re quite often just regular tap water rebranded…can’t imagine a much better product for the Republicans to shill.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
16 February 2013 at 12:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth:
I may need help soon. I have to schedule an appointment with a bankruptcy lawyer next week. Depends on how much filing for bankruptcy is (and if I can even file to begin with).
Anyone have experience filing (I am ~6K in debt, some of it over 2 years old; many of the creditors have gotten no money in over 6 months, so they have been turned over to collections; I just got a call for a lawyer for one of the collection agencies)?
John Morales
16 February 2013 at 12:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony, I feel for you. I can’t help you, but I do feel for you.
And I hope someone here can help.
(You work hard when you can, and yet you feel impelled to file for bankruptcy.
Grr.)
Portia, who will be okay.
16 February 2013 at 12:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Bankruptcy is a scary word but it can be such a good thing in the right circumstances. I’m glad you’re going to make an appointment, Tony. If it goes the way it probably will, so much of your money/debt related stress will melt away. *hugs*
I’m finally gonna turn in.
I ♥ the Horde.
Dhorvath, OM
16 February 2013 at 12:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony,
Where do you live? I am likely not in your region so my experience may mean little to nothing, but I did file last year and it was painless.
Portia, who will be okay.
16 February 2013 at 12:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Being that it’s a federal court proceeding, the experience might not be that different. There are state laws involved, too, but it’s all one court system.*
*Presuming U.S. filing.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
16 February 2013 at 12:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
opposablethumbs:
Not only are you not close to the edge of inappropriateness, you aren’t even in the same state. We all have different boundaries and respecting them is, well respectful. So thank you (but no need to worry. No one here has come close to my boundaries.)
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Portia:
I have warm fuzzies too. That is so incredibly caring of S to say that he will always come get you. Awwww. I am happy you have someone like him in your life.
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Cerberus:
Hugs and Hershey Kisses sent your way.
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glodson:
Huge comic book fan here too. Following the death of my best friend in 2010, I fell into a depression where I barely found the energy to work. Everything I enjoyed prior to his passing meant nothing anymore. I went from buying $150/month in comics (going every Wednesday) to zero. Then when I started to emerge from my depressive state in 2011, I got fired from my job. The replacement I found was just starting to prove financially consistent, when I got fired from there in 2012. I have bought a few trade paperbacks a few months back, and I want to get back into collecting (M and I used to sit and read comics for hours on Wednesdays…sigh), but as mentioned earlier, the impending threats of lawyers calling are proving to be more important.
dontpanic
16 February 2013 at 12:43 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not posted in Chris’ thread about the civility pledge because I don’t want to distract, but I had to say it somewhere …
Because the blinking red light can’t seem to erase all the egregiously stupid history:
But, but, Anthony he was convincing in his argument over at Ed’s place that you, specifically, and literally (literally, literally; not figuratively, literally) would attack him with knives if you were ever in the same room together. Because … reasons. Sorry, I don’t think I can ever take such a person as baal seriously. But he did accuse many who people post here of being “over the top abusive scary as a pack of drunken frat boys” quite civilly.
Dhorvath, OM
16 February 2013 at 12:45 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia,
My federal isn’t yours. I am Canadian, eh!
Tigger_the_Wing, Ranged Throngs Termed A Nerd With Boltcutters
16 February 2013 at 12:46 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I think I’ve caught up, but some things just seem to go in one eye and out the other. Please forgive me if I forget to mention something important here.
*Hugs and kittens* to all who want/need them.
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Portia, well done for getting away from J(erk). Glad that S(aviour) was available and willing to help. Your mum sounds awesome. =^_^=
Don’t blame yourself for being trusting and making allowances for someone you considered a friend: that makes you a good person. Besides, if being a friend to someone who takes advantage were in any way wrong, then we’d all be to blame. No, you did the right thing, as J(erk)’s reaction shows. Had he really had your safety in mind, rather than his ego, he would have been apologising profusely down the phone, not yelling at you. Then again, if he had your safety in mind he wouldn’t have been trying to trample over your wishes in the first place.
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Cerberus, I’m delighted to read that you have some way out of this and that you have already made a great deal of difference to the self-esteem of trans* kids. Go you! =^_^=
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Alethea, sorry about Best Friend’s brother-in-law. That sucks.
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Katherine Lorraine, how are your kitties now? One of my friends has just adopted a three-year-old cat from the RSPCA. Within days she was sneezing; friend took her back to see the RSPCA vet and she was diagnosed with cat flu. Fortunately, my friend’s other cats are immunised.
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glodson, your daughter is gorgeous. My kids loved the Natural History Museum in London from a very young age. It was totally worth the hassle of negotiating trains and underground, with double buggy and sling, for their reactions. Especially the dinosaurs and whales! Why do tiny people love big things so much?!
I discovered with Number 1 Son that there is no point in fighting over potty training*, because they will always win in the short term, setting a dreadful precedent. It is better to let them pace themselves.
*Long after he was reliable during the day, I kept him in a nappy at night time ‘just in case’(following general advice of the time); after a week of poopy nappies, I was pretty fed up and asked him “WHY?!!!” His answer? “Well, you’ll just have to stop putting nappies on me, won’t you?”
Cheeky boy. He hated the nappies and it was his way of making me stop putting them on him. He was only 2½ so I hadn’t been really listening to him. I learned my lesson there! I wonder if his daughter (three months old atm) will do the same to him? =^_^=
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WMDKitty, I too hate the way my brain does that, so I’ve started trying out the strategy my mother successfully used to get over the trauma of her childhood; changing the memories I dislike. It isn’t true that one cannot change the past. Well, at least the past-as-it-exists-in-my-brain. It seems to be working.
She called up a memory of when she was particularly unhappy and alone and imagined her adult self visiting and telling her child self that she would survive this, and meet a wonderful man, marry, have four lovely children and live happily ever after. She told me that she only had to do this twice, on successive nights, and suddenly the desperate feeling of misery that had always accompanied her childhood memory was gone, and in its place was a feeling of peace.
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Tony, I am delighted that your love life is looking so awesome! I’m so sorry that you have to file for bankruptcy when other people can sail through life with debts a hundred times as big as yours. *Spits* I hope it means that your stress will be over, though.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
16 February 2013 at 1:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dhorvath:
I reside in Florida.
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thunk:
Reverse wikipedia, huh? I will try it out.
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glodson:
For someone just now delurking, you fit in so well that I forgot that your nym is new to me.
I LOVE that your atheism comes with an increased interest in social justice. Middle finger to the pitters, the antifeminists, and the dictionary atheists!
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Josh:
Call me odd, but I want a Snuggie. PJs are neat, but a Snuggie just seems nifty.
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I always thought ‘cicely’ was pronounced like ‘Sicily’. Of greater importance though…what does the name mean? Sources tell me that ‘cicely’ means _lover of horses_.
Tony the Queer Shoop (now with 30% more melanin)
16 February 2013 at 1:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I do have the bright spot of J and I getting to spend the day together on Sunday. I hope to do brunch on the beach somewhere. We have a ferris wheel out there too that I was thinking we could try out. I also want to check around for a batting cage. I did that once for a date years ago. It was fun!
strange gods before me ॐ
16 February 2013 at 1:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher is taking care of herself and largely occupied with school stuff.
I happen to know that Walton does love y’all, but finds Pharyngula too stressful.
Beatrice
16 February 2013 at 1:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cerberus,
I’m sorry about your job situation.
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Portia,
The Jerk isn’t just a jerk, he sounds rapey. It’s good that you are done with him. Sorry about the icecream.
triamacleod
16 February 2013 at 1:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry to jump into the convo with this, but the National Atheist Party has issued a invitation to a ‘summit’ meeting regarding the deep rift. I’m very curious to see what the horde feels the chances of success are.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/15/1187328/-Summit-Invitation?showAll=yes#
WMDKitty -- feeling so very small
16 February 2013 at 1:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…we have a National Atheist Party.
Oooh-kay, then.
strange gods before me ॐ
16 February 2013 at 1:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
There is no National Atheist Party.
It’s a Facebook group.
Beatrice
16 February 2013 at 2:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
They even have a cute little poll in the end:
Do you believe rational discussion is possible?
Yes
No
John Morales
16 February 2013 at 2:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
triamacleod, I take it that the person posting as “NationalAtheistParty” refers to the “deep rift” between accommodationists and the epistemic realists?
(This ain’t an accommodationist place)
triamacleod
16 February 2013 at 2:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That was my take on the matter. However I’ve just been schooled by Strange Gods Before Me that there is no recognized National Atheist Party. So now I feel like an idiot and I’m even more pissed at Lee Moore as I took him on good faith and I’m regretting it.
rowanvt
16 February 2013 at 2:47 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Apparently the phone message I left at the company regarding the unauthorised use was not enough. I will be sending them a physical letter on monday asking them to desist immediately. I’ve had 7 different people tell me they’ve seen the advertisement, one just 30 minutes ago.
One of the screencaps:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/LinkSage/Screenshots/Evidence/lierrarip.png
Have a Balloon
16 February 2013 at 2:51 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
From what I’ve seen, you won’t have been the only one.
Have a Balloon
16 February 2013 at 2:53 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rowanvt
Oh dear. I hope you aren’t bullying them! Why do you hate free speech?
rowanvt
16 February 2013 at 2:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Have a Balloon… you just made my night. XD Off to bed with me and I’ll be chuckling even while asleep.
Have a Balloon
16 February 2013 at 3:04 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yay, I helped. :)
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
16 February 2013 at 3:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey, did you guys know that there is an an enormous system of water-filled caves under the Kalahari desert? With lakes so deep no-one has found the bottom yet, populated with eyeless golden catfish. This is SO COOOL. St David of Attenborough rules!
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
16 February 2013 at 3:26 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
triamacleod
Several of the FTB bloggers covered that when Lee Moore first proposed it. The general opinion seems to be that he’s a being a disingenuous jackass who considers calling out rape threats morally equivalent to making rape threats. He showed up once in each thread to insist that he totally wasn’t doing that, but never came back to explain himself.
strange gods before me ॐ
16 February 2013 at 3:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rowanvt: that looks like an ad on Facebook. You can contact Facebook directly. Don’t spend money unnecessarily; you don’t need a government-issued recognition of copyright, and you don’t need a lawyer. You already have copyright under the Berne convention, and you can send a DMCA notice for free. Keep your original art up at the original link, and refer to it in the form where it says “Describe or identify your copyrighted work”:
https://www.facebook.com/help/contact_us.php?id=208282075858952
https://www.facebook.com/help/190268144407210/ otherwise, but best to use the form
Beatrice
16 February 2013 at 4:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah, the post-Valentine’s day chocolate sales, how I love you. I bought candied orange peel truffles for mum and myself. Divine
mildlymagnificent
16 February 2013 at 4:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea, yay! I watched that too.
Golden catfish under the Kalahari desert, golden wheel spiders careening down sand dunes on the Nahib desert.
Fan.tas.tic.
rq
16 February 2013 at 4:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good morning!
Aletheam
That is cool. The past two days has been full of cool science, for some reason. Meteors over Russia, flying snakes, underground lakes and blind catfish under deserts… Wow.
Cerberus
Your situation makes me sympathetically angry, I wish there was something I could do to help!! I’m also glad there are a few positives in the situation, most importantly – being a role model to trans* children. *sigh* Why do peo