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Why I am an atheist – Doubting Thomas

Well I am one because that’s what you call someone who is not a theist, whatever you think that is. So I don’t believe in gods because I don’t see any need to. It seems that the only thing different between believing and not believing is that not believing means you get to do what you want on Sunday and you don’t have to do all the other stuff believers believe they should do. Like be bored to death in church and hate others because they don’t believe what you do.

Everything else is the same. The supposed god does not in any way affect what goes on. He does not answer prayers or intervene in floods and other disasters. He doesn’t reward good behavior. Same result as not praying or not believing.

Someone, Voltaire I think once said, “If there were no god it would have been necessary to invent him”, possibly so, if your goal was to control people. I don’t need that; I’m not a king or government. And since I don’t care for any more authority than is necessary, I don’t see the need to maintain the invention.
I discarded belief in god because it was worthless. The days when an espoused belief was an asset are fading. Politicians in this country still can’t get elected without it, but I’m not a politician. There are other human interactions where ‘having religion’ is still looked on as a plus, but I choose not to get involved with many of those and when I do, such as at funerals and weddings, I just keep quiet, or sit with my sister and laugh and make jokes.

Oh, and last but not least, believing in gods and all those made up stories about him just seems stupid. I mean, none of it holds up to scrutiny. It’s all silly nonsense.

Doubting Thomas
United States

Comments

  1. kohldamunga says

    Spiritual sack of shit, that is just as on target as your claim about biologists.

    Keep trying. But right now, you are not even a broken clock.

    And what happened to you? Why aren’t you trying to prove anymore that you really are what you say you are, as you were doing before? What happened to that hole on that donkey-like creature? Got sick of playing with it?

  2. kohldamunga says

    kohldamunga, please respond to my previous question.

    Sorry, what was your question again?

  3. Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart OM, liar and scoundrel says

    kohldamunga:
    Was that English? Seriously, you’re barely even communicating anymore. Does someone need a widdle lie down?

    Are you going to answer our questions? Please, tell me all of your ideas about “spirituality” and the theory of evolution.

  4. Crudely Wrott says

    Err… correction. I can’t find that hole on J’ Ass, where Ass refers to a donkey-like creature.

    Easy, kohlmumble! Three easy steps:

    1) obtain donkey
    2) lift donkey’s tail
    3) insert your head thereunder

    Easy enough for a child (or a lost soul) to do.

    Shit. You are such a disappointment.

  5. kohldamunga says

    I can’t decide if I should step on it or kick it across the room.

    Great. It’s coming back. You sound like you again. Don’t lose it. Looks like you removed that cork that you had placed on the hole of that donkey-like creature. Why are so you protective of that hole anyway? Do you think other will violate its integrity? Do you have many atheist Darwinian biologist sharing your room?

  6. says

    Sorry, what was your question again?

    Is it really that hard for you to scroll up?

    Here, I’ll do the work for you, since it’s just so difficult:

    Two cars start moving from the same point. One travels south at 60 mi/h and the other travels west at 25 mi/h. At what rate is the distance between the cars increasing two hours later?

  7. kohldamunga says

    Easy, kohlmumble! Three easy steps:

    1) obtain donkey
    2) lift donkey’s tail
    3) insert your head thereunder

    Easy enough for a child (or a lost soul) to do.

    Shit. You are such a disappointment.

    Yes I know I am a disappointment. But that won’t do. You are going to have to give me a live visual demonstration.

  8. Crudely Wrott says

    Where have all the good trolls gone? This one is broken and I don’t want it anymore.

    If the Great Poopyhead, peas be upon him, decides to let loose the BanHammer in a great sweeping arc that sweeps the Earth clean he’ll get no squawk from me.

    *but I’ll always remember how he hovered, no, quivered on the edge of inspired edification . . . shit*

  9. kohldamunga says

    Two cars start moving from the same point. One travels south at 60 mi/h and the other travels west at 25 mi/h. At what rate is the distance between the cars increasing two hours later?

    What is mi/h?

  10. Janine Is Still An Asshole, OM, says

    First rule of holes. when you are in one, stop digging.

    Also, whenever PZ gets done doing what ever it is he has been doing and checks this blog, you will be banned. Not because I am calling for it. I have been around long enough and seen nough bans to know when the line has been crossed.

    My advice for you it this, get your hoggle jollies now. It will come to an end.

  11. kohldamunga says

    Guys, it’s just being blatant and disgusting now. Why bother.

    Why bother? Because a lot of you wanted to see what a typical spiritual person looks/behaves like. Plus, I wanted that famous ‘banhammer’. I still do. I see some of you have already started to turn to your Guru for a ‘banhammer’. Great! I want that.

  12. kohldamunga says

    First rule of holes. when you are in one, stop digging.

    Also, whenever PZ gets done doing what ever it is he has been doing and checks this blog, you will be banned. Not because I am calling for it. I have been around long enough and seen nough bans to know when the line has been crossed.

    My advice for you it this, get your hoggle jollies now. It will come to an end.

    Spoken like a true Ass now. I am wondering, how on earth it took me that long to cross the line.. I should have done it at least 50 posts ago, when I started discussing your Guru’s weight and over-eating issues.

  13. Ing says

    Yes I know I am a disappointment. But that won’t do. You are going to have to give me a live visual demonstration.

    Gladly!

    *Brings in Donkey*

    *Lifts up Donkey’s tail*

    *Shoves kohldamunga’s head up donkey’s ass*

    Let me know if you need any help!

  14. Josh, Official SpokesGay says

    Yeah, I killfiled it when it started hoggling in public.

    I just figured out what that’s been reminding me of! USAnians will get this. Every time I read the word “hoggle,” (and yes, it does have a verb form, doesn’t it?) I see/hear a wizened Rumpelstiltskin-thing making snortley noises like the Hamburglar from the old McDonald’s commercial. Remember “robble! robble!”

    “Hoggle! Hoggle!”

  15. Janine Is Still An Asshole, OM, says

    Once more, the spiritual sack of shit shows that it does hot understand the meaning of words. I am not asking. I know that it will happen when PZ checks this thread/

    So, you take pride in acting like an anti-social scumbag?

    Ah! When one sets their standards high.

  16. 'Tis Himself, OM says

    Ing #499

    There you have it lady’s and gents. He literally can not find his asshole

    Thread saved!

  17. kohldamunga says

    Once more, the spiritual sack of shit shows that it does hot understand the meaning of words. I am not asking. I know that it will happen when PZ checks this thread/

    So, you take pride in acting like an anti-social scumbag?

    Ah! When one sets their standards high.

    No, I think your beloved Guru is already well aware of everything going around here. Unlike you, I really doubt he is an Ass (of any kind). But like you, I am also waiting for him to intervene with whatever bullshit excuse he is going to post here. Or maybe just a short announcement “kohldamunga has been banned”. Now Asses all around!

    And did I say you were again sucking up to your Guru?

  18. Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart OM, liar and scoundrel says

    Josh:

    “Hoggle! Hoggle!”

    Ha! Perfect!

    Kohlie:

    What is mi/h?

    … What? Really? You’re killing me, man.

    Because a lot of you wanted to see what a typical spiritual person looks/behaves like.

    Uh, no. Reading comprehension fail. We wanted a definition of “spirituality” and we wanted to know how that impacted the theory of evolution. You’ve yet to address the second point, by the way.

    Plenty of us here (myself included) know “spiritual” people IRL. You’re not some sort of exotic specimen, just a dumbass. But go on thinkin’ that you’re all sorts of special– I’m sure your mommy tells you how smart and important and unique you are every night when she tucks you into bed.

  19. Ing says

    Because a lot of you wanted to see what a typical spiritual person looks/behaves like.

    So spiritual==horrible?

  20. Janine Is Still An Asshole, OM, says

    Hoggling sack of shit, your words might have impact if they bore any relationship to reality.

    I am afraid that this is almost like being at a side show and we are watching the geek bite the head off a chicken.

  21. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    Good grief this is one of the hands down dumbest self important idiots I’ve seen on the threads in a while.

  22. ad hominum salvator ॐ says

    And did I say you were again sucking up to your Guru?

    I suspect you overestimate. I have even heard it said that his head is full of poop*. All you really have to do is ignore him and try to provide evidence for the stuff you say, and he’ll leave you alone.

    *self-evident

  23. Carlie says

    Poor little damn kohl – you’re just furious that PZ hasn’t given you any personal attention yet, aren’t you? You’re like a kid throwing a tantrum in a grocery store after its parent has walked off and refused to engage. So sad. There, there. Here, I’ll tell you what your parents never did: you’re not that important. Really. The world doesn’t actually care about you. And no, negative attention isn’t a good substitute for positive attention. Now run along and try and make something out of your sorry little life, ok?

  24. Gregory Greenwood says

    Having read kohldamunga’s hoggling, I feel an unaccountable need to channel stereotypical televison depictions of elderly people everywhere and complain that they just don’t make things like they used to, including trolls…

    Grandpa Simpson/

    “When I was a nipper, back in nineteen-dickity-two (we had to say ‘dickity’ because the Kaiser had stolen our number twenty), ‘blithering idiots’, that was what we called trolls back then, had something to say. Sure, they were under-educated morons with runaway Dunning-Kruger symdrome, but they actually tried to make some kind of point, however badly. Why, I remember debating a troll atop the Statue of Liberty. I set off for the big apple wearing an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. We didn’t have any white onions, because of the war, so I had to make do with a yellow-and-purple polka-dot onion, which got me some funny looks, I can tell you…”

    ***Several brain-liquifyingly boring minutes later***

    “… Time was, you could actually debate with a troll. Their arguments were stupid and riddled with presuppositionalist positions and cicular pseudo-logic, but eventually they would either starfart or we would solve the disagreement with good old fashioned ritualised gladatorial combat, and that would be an end to it, but these modern trolls – bah! Hogglin’ all over the place with their canned apologetics and ape-porn fixations… grumble… mutter…”

    ***An interminably long time later***

    “… And that’s why they call it ‘doing a Ham’. Now, where was I..? Oh yes, the important thing was that I was wearing an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time…”

    /Grandpa Simpson.

  25. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Kohlfuckwit/Selachee is still using the same MO. I dealt with it on the other blog for a while. I think its a computer program designed for trolling. Takes what somebody says, repeats it, and adds gratuitous insults. Not sure if it would even pass a Turing test. ;)

  26. kohldamunga says

    Hoggling sack of shit, your words might have impact if they bore any relationship to reality.

    They do. Every sentence, every word and every letter. Reality is that you call yourself the hole of a donkey, and you have demonstrated over and over why you call yourself that. Although one would say it takes a lot of effort to find a donkey, examine the hole, and then get inspired by both the donkey and his hole (assuming that it is male donkeys that inspire you).

  27. Gregory Greenwood says

    ‘Tis Himself, OM @ 539;

    Ou sont les trolls d’antan?

    Now I regret not understanding French.

    Oh, the perils of a wasted youth…

  28. kohldamunga says

    Having read kohldamunga’s hoggling, I feel an unaccountable need to channel stereotypical televison depictions of elderly people everywhere and complain that they just don’t make things like they used to, including trolls…

    You are right. Things have moved on. Everything but elderly people themselves. Their minds are frozen in a time that is passe now. They turn on their TVs and expect to see girls secretly asking for sex. Instead, what they see is semi-naked and sexually frustrated girls openly looking for sex partners. Then they really move on. After all, things haven’t progressed too bad in some directions… What’s your age, by the way?

  29. Crudely Wrott says

    Mais ou sont les trolls d’antan?

    Yes. How quickly fades the expectation, the thrill of the chase, the memory.
    Like melting snows, so are the high points of our days.

    We had such great hopes for wassname.

  30. A. R says

    Troll: Please insert a a decaying donkey stuffed with a decaying porcupine, stuffed with a decaying rat into your anus sideways.

  31. kohldamunga says

    I think you’re seriously confused about the english language. The hole of a donkey would be an “ass’s hole”, not an “asshole”.

    Yes I know. But I guess it is something along the lines when you say ‘apple pie’ instead of apple’s pie. Or, Ice Cream Cake instead of Ice Cream’s Cake. Am I correct J Hole-of-the-dumbest-donkey-on-the-planet?

  32. kohldamunga says

    It could also be an “ass’s asshole”, since an “asshole” is slang for the anus.

    So you are saying when J Asshole calls herself an asshole, she is calling herself the anus? I thought her IQ was higher than that. That’s why I chose the donkey, and not the anus.

  33. Gregory Greenwood says

    kohldamunga @ 543;

    You are right. Things have moved on.

    Not really the point of my post, but OK…

    Everything but elderly people themselves.

    You do realize that the post was humourous, right? I was deliberately playing on stereotypes about the elderly. I believe I even wrote as much pretty umambiguously.

    Their minds are frozen in a time that is passe now.

    I take it you don’t know many elderly people? There are many millions of people that might qualify as ‘elderly’. To say that all of them have ‘minds frozen in the past’ is pretty ridiculous. Plenty of them are fully active and engaged with the modern world.

    There is an important difference bewteen our posts – I was referencing stereotypes in order to mock those stereotypes (and, it must be said, to mock you at the same time). You, on the other hand, wheel out those stereotypes seemingly in earnest, whch is a really bad idea in these parts.

    They turn on their TVs and expect to see girls secretly asking for sex.

    Where did this come from? How on Earth is it even tangentially related to my post? What makes you think that elderly people, as a group, expect to see anyone asking for sex at all when they turn on the TV?

    Instead, what they see is semi-naked and sexually frustrated girls openly looking for sex partners.

    Okaaaay… What channels are you watching, anyway? I take it that you aren’t much of a fan of the whole sexual revolution thing.

    Then they really move on.

    Move on from what, and to where? What point are you trying to make here?

    After all, things haven’t progressed too bad in some directions

    Parsing your post is quite the exercise. It now seems that you are saying that sexual frustration among televison presenters is a good thing in your eyes.

    What’s your age, by the way?

    How is my age even remotely relevant?

  34. says

    But I guess it is something along the lines when you say ‘apple pie’ instead of apple’s pie. Or, Ice Cream Cake instead of Ice Cream’s Cake.

    That’s different. Those would be pie [made] of apple and cake [made] of ice cream.

    Don’t worry. One day you might learn the nuances of the english language. But you’ll have to work really really hard, ok?

  35. Gregory Greenwood says

    Caine, Fleur du Mal @ 546;

    Where are the trolls of yesteryear?

    Thank you for the translation.

  36. kohldamunga says

    Don’t worry. One day you might learn the nuances of the english language. But you’ll have to work really really hard, ok?

    OK.

  37. changeable moniker says

    k’s also apparently missing the part of the brain that allows one to understand meta-referential blog ’nyms. Dissapointing. [sic, see upthread.]

  38. Father Ogvorbis, OM: Delightfully Machiavellian says

    Where have all the good trolls gone,
    Long time passing.
    Where have all the good trolls gone,
    long time ago.
    Where have all the good trolls gone,
    They’ve been potty trained, everyone.
    When will they ever learn?
    When will they ever learn?

    Where have all the potties gone,
    Long time passing?
    Where have all the potties gone,
    Long time ago?
    Where have all the potties gone?
    kohldamunga’s table, everyone.
    When will he ever learn?
    When will he ever learn?

    Where has kohldamunga gone,
    Long time passing?
    Where has kohldamunga gone,
    Long time ago?
    Where has kohldamunga gone?
    Gone ’round the bend everyone.
    When can he ever learn?
    When can he ever learn?

  39. kohldamunga says

    Well, showing my ‘spirituality’ … that was fun.

    Mr Greenwood, I am asking your age because you seem like an elderly person to me. Like someone who is in the 70s. But that’s OK if you want to keep it a secret.

    But I am really sorry that I can’t give you a proper reply when I in my ‘spiritual mode’. You seem to be asking reasonable questions, and I seem to be engaged with primitive circus clowns. Too many of them. So excuse me.

  40. 'Tis Himself, OM says

    Ou sont les trolls d’antan?

    Now I regret not understanding French.

    Oh, the perils of a wasted youth…

    It translates as “where are the trolls of yesteryear?” There is a famous French poem by 15th Century thief and poet François Villon called Ballade des dames du temps jadis (Ballad of the Ladies of Times Past) which has the refrain: Mais où sont les neiges d’antan? This was translated by 19th Century British Pre-Raphaelite painter and poet Dante Gabriel Rossetti as “Where are the snows of yesteryear?”

    Incidentally, as changeable moniker points out, there’s a missing acute accent. Ou should be . I was just too lazy to go to the character map to copy ù.

  41. A. R says

    kohldamunga: While I find your attempts at insult and humor mildly amusing, you’ve gotten a bit repetitive. Try some new material.

  42. chigau (無) says

    Careful there Gregory Greenwood, kohldamunga seems to be bonding with you or imprinting or something.

  43. changeable moniker says

    ‘s ok <- I'm too lazy to get the smart quote right. So I poked you, k, and (now) myself. I'm an equal-opportunities grammarian. ;)

    (You also meant "grave", not "acute".)

    But I am really sorry that I can’t give you a proper reply when I in my ‘spiritual mode’. You seem to be asking reasonable questions, and I seem to be engaged with primitive circus clowns. Too many of them. So excuse me.

    Oh, that’s replacing #510 in my IDofIs.

  44. 'Tis Himself, OM says

    If I were to guess I’d say Gregory Greenwood is in his 30s. On the other hand kohldamunga can’t be a day over 12.

  45. Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart OM, liar and scoundrel says

    If I were to guess I’d say Gregory Greenwood is in his 30s. On the other hand kohldamunga can’t be a day over 12.

    So… imprinting?

    I’ll give kohlie the benefit of the doubt– I’ll bet teenager. Senior in high school, maybe. 17 or 18 at the oldest.

  46. kohldamunga says

    kohldamunga: While I find your attempts at insult and humor mildly amusing, you’ve gotten a bit repetitive. Try some new material.

    Yes, I am quite aware of that. And there is a very good reason why I have become ‘repetitive’. It’s because dialogues like this are like where both sides kind of ‘synergize’ each other. I can’t do much unless the circus clowns keep their acts going constantly. Just in case you didn’t notice, J Asshole, who was the main catalyst, has kind of halved this synergistic exchange of energies lately.

  47. A. R says

    Multiple uses of “kind” and inappropriate use of “like.” I say 17 yo Caucasian male, likely overweight.

  48. kohldamunga says

    J Asshole, where are you????? These people, especially this A.R guy/gal/whatever, are slow-poisoning my very expensive computer hardware. Come back, or I am going. Finally.

  49. Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart OM, liar and scoundrel says

    synergize

    Oh man, now I want a definition of “synergize”. It’s a sad, sad state of affairs when the “spiritual” are ripping off corporate lingo.

  50. Kseniya says

    Rev DBC

    Good grief this is one of the hands down dumbest self important idiots I’ve seen on the threads in a while.

    And THAT is saying something.

    Kohl does sounds like Selachee.

    IMO it’s time to stop feeding the cat.

  51. kohldamunga says

    OK I am going. Don’t say it wasn’t fun. PZ has utterly disappointed me. No ‘banhammer’. I guess he is quite used to these weight jokes, thanks to Mrs PZ.

  52. Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart OM, liar and scoundrel says

    Tethys:

    It’s horde telepathy!!

    We’re all sockpuppets, my dear. No telepathy required.

    kohlie:

    OK I am going.

    Uh huh. Suuuuure. Just like all of those other flounces, right?

  53. A. R says

    Apologize on that one, I was just getting a little frustrated with the troll. It gets old after awhile.

  54. chigau (無) says

    Poor kohldamunga spent days trying to get PZ’s attention and utterly failed.
    (wait for it)

  55. Father Ogvorbis, OM: Delightfully Machiavellian says

    OK I am going.

    Flounce four? or five?

    Sorry, I majored in history. Counting isn’t my strong suit.

  56. chigau (無) says

    Father Ogvorbis
    What really counts as a flounce?
    Only direct statements like, “I’m leaving.”?
    Or do we also count things like, “I’ve had enough!” or “That’s it!”?
    There could be a “plausible deniability” thing.

  57. hotshoe says

    OK I am going.

    Flounce four? or five?

    Sorry, I majored in history. Counting isn’t my strong suit.

    No reason to bother. It will be back as soon as it needs another jism spasm, and given it’s a 17-year-old boy, that will be often enough to make it pointless counting.

    I hope I’m wrong, but … I wouldn’t bet a quantum tomato on it staying gone.

  58. Janine Is Still An Asshole, OM, says

    Just in case you didn’t notice, J Asshole, who was the main catalyst, has kind of halved this synergistic exchange of energies lately.

    You were playing your game of bullshit long before I joined the chorus demanding that you back up your words. But being the dishonest sack of shit that you are, you would rather blame you actions on an other person.

    What? You mean your were serious able your spirituality? And it was me that cased you to go off about bestiality?

  59. Sally Strange, OM says

    After all, things haven’t progressed too bad in some directions

    After viewing a collection of “Jersey Shore” quotes presented in Oscar Wilde style by the current Broadway cast of The Importance of Being Ernest, I’d have to say that Kohl’s grammar structure would fit right in with that of The Situation and Sammi, etc. Even the “J Ass” invention seems more reminiscent of “J Wow” than “J Lo”.

    Well, showing my ‘spirituality’ … that was fun.

    He’s a ‘spiritual’ flasher!

  60. kohldamunga says

    You were playing your game of bullshit long before I joined the chorus demanding that you back up your words. But being the dishonest sack of shit that you are, you would rather blame you actions on an other person.

    You are back! Great. So, you think you are such a privileged case of ‘assholeism’, that you can jump into any discussion, and start demanding whatever you like? And, you seem to be confusing your ‘badmouthing’ with demanding things. As I said before, you really don’t have to struggle that hard to prove you are still an asshole. Tone done a bit, in fact tone down a lot, and you will still remain an asshole.

    What? You mean your were serious able your spirituality? And it was me that cased you to go off about bestiality?

    Yes, what? I don’t understand it. Maybe you need to check the syntax here.

  61. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Our troll flounced maybe a dozen times on the other blog before the banhammer came down. Seemed to think we would miss it. So NOT. Why would we? Every time it appeared, there was a significant decrease in both the IQ and integrity of the thread. Since everybody is presuming it has the integrity of a lying and composing turd, you have its number.

  62. 'Tis Himself, OM says

    The troll has flounced, unflounced, reflounced, and deflounced so many times his score is in negative numbers.

  63. kohldamunga says

    Our troll flounced maybe a dozen times on the other blog before the banhammer came down. Seemed to think we would miss it. So NOT. Why would we? Every time it appeared, there was a significant decrease in both the IQ and integrity of the thread. Since everybody is presuming it has the integrity of a lying and composing turd, you have its number.

    Ah . The banhammer! Bless you, (composing or decomposing) turd man for saying this.

  64. Constant Mews says

    I have to give kohldamunga credit for originality.
    Of all the idiotic “explanations” for why evolution isn’t true, “Darwin was into bestiality” is a new one for me!

    Actually not. This was suggested in the early 1890s, I believe. As I mentioned before, the defining characteristic of selachee is lack of originality and independence in thinking.

  65. 'Tis Himself, OM says

    PZ, if you read this, please don’t ban this troll. He wants it so much he’s hoggling about it.

  66. Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart OM, liar and scoundrel says

    kohldamunga just can’t leave, huh?

    Pro-tip, kohlie: It’s uncouth to fail to stick that many flounces.

  67. Constant Mews says

    Guys, it’s just being blatant and disgusting now. Why bother.

    Because it’s trying very hard to get banned. As I said, the interesting (and rapid) descent into attempted insult and the peculiar interest in anal sex shows an intention to be banned.

    This perhaps explains the five bans on Richard Dawkins forum, and the (so far) one ban on Pharyngula.

  68. hotshoe says

    He’s a ‘spiritual’ flasher!

    Probably a flasher in real life, too.

    It’s got the smell of one who is sick almost to death of his own perviness but can’t stop himself.

    Not a groper, oh no, that might be dangerous to it – just a sad little pervie flasher, goosepimpled and greasy.

  69. kohldamunga says

    Speaking of hoggling, please go to urban dictionary and upvote the correct definition. Or submit a new one. Because the world needs to know about hoggling.

    I will go for number 2. Masturbating is fine. I’ll do it. Who is the online whore?

  70. Constant Mews says

    kohldamunga just can’t leave, huh?

    Pro-tip, kohlie: It’s uncouth to fail to stick that many flounces.

    It is a recurring pattern with selachee. He constantly claims to leave, then returns. Interestingly enough, when it was pointed out to him that this meant he was lying, he had no reply.

    But his apparent desire for continual anal sex amuses…mildly. It’s not very creative, but it’s something.

  71. hotshoe says

    PZ, if you read this, please don’t ban this troll. He wants it so much he’s hoggling about it.

    QFT

  72. chigau (無) says

    I agree with ‘Tis.
    Leave kohldamunga alone.
    Almost everyone with a kill-file has already kill-filed it.
    Some of us want to keep poking it. (childish, I know)
    And it wants to be banned, so, don’t give it the satisfaction.

  73. A. R says

    hotshoe: A little over the line there (form someone who recently did it himself in a very stupid manner)

  74. kohldamunga says

    It is a recurring pattern with selachee. He constantly claims to leave, then returns. Interestingly enough, when it was pointed out to him that this meant he was lying, he had no reply.

    But his apparent desire for continual anal sex amuses…mildly. It’s not very creative, but it’s something.

    And you are a classic ‘recurring’ original from RDFRS. Tell me, how many aliases have you under your belt?

  75. hotshoe says

    Speaking of hoggling, please go to urban dictionary and upvote the correct definition. Or submit a new one. Because the world needs to know about hoggling.

    Done, thanks, Sally Strange.

  76. Constant Mews says

    I will go for number 2. Masturbating is fine. I’ll do it. Who is the online whore

    You, obviously. You’re not very good at exchanges of insults, are you?

  77. Constant Mews says

    And you are a classic ‘recurring’ original from RDFRS. Tell me, how many aliases have you under your belt?

    Actually, I’ve never posted on RDFRS. And I have no aliases. This is my real name. Unlike you, I am honest.

  78. Constant Mews says

    Why bother? Because a lot of you wanted to see what a typical spiritual person looks/behaves like.

    This is a falsehood, so far as I can see. For two reasons: first, no one here particularly cares to see what a typical spiritual person looks like. Second, you’re not a spiritual person.

    Plus, I wanted that famous ‘banhammer’. I still do. I see some of you have already started to turn to your Guru for a ‘banhammer’. Great! I want that.

    Why?

  79. Constant Mews says

    I am wondering, how on earth it took me that long to cross the line.. I should have done it at least 50 posts ago, when I started discussing your Guru’s weight and over-eating issues.

    Are you genuinely so naive that you think mundane insults to PZ are what gets you banned? Amusing.

  80. says

    Yeah when I thought they were genuinely a wooist troll, I found it interesting. But now that they were just some kind of Poe troll, I don’t know. Or maybe they weren’t, but it’s gotten quite boring now.

    Hope I can close the tab and put this thread back on email notification…

  81. kohldamunga says

    Actually, I’ve never posted on RDFRS. And I have no aliases. This is my real name. Unlike you, I am honest.

    Great. I’ll be honest with you, too. I have become really really sick and tried of showing the ‘spiritual’ side of mine here on this thread. It’s not easy you know. But I think it was necessary to show that you people were in fact talking to a real live spiritual person. Plus, the other point is, the tactics that are usually employed here by the ‘regulars’ do not always work. Sometimes they back fire! See, turning yourself into a bigger asshole than J Asshole, and using foul language, which is the trademark of the owner of this blog, doesn’t really take much of an effort. Does it?

    Happy trolling! All of you

  82. Constant Mews says

    Great. I’ll be honest with you, too.

    Given that most of your previous responses have been dishonest, I doubt this.

    I have become really really sick and tried of showing the ‘spiritual’ side of mine here on this thread. It’s not easy you know.

    How can you claim to show a spiritual side when you have been unable to define “spiritual?”

    But I think it was necessary to show that you people were in fact talking to a real live spiritual person.

    So far, your responses are consistent with a computer program. If you are a live person, you have not yet demonstrated that fact.

    Plus, the other point is, the tactics that are usually employed here by the ‘regulars’ do not always work.

    What tactics? The regulars here were having some mild fun with you until you got boring. They don’t really care what you think.

    Sometimes they back fire!

    How so? Do you have examples?

    See, turning yourself into a bigger asshole than J Asshole, and using foul language, which is the trademark of the owner of this blog, doesn’t really take much of an effort. Does it?

    Non-sequitur; hence irrelevant.

  83. Constant Mews says

    Is “Happy trolling!” yet another flounce?

    Of course. He will be back. Selachee is remarkably predictable.

  84. Constant Mews says

    Who will he target next?

    Generally, whoever appears to display the most “anger” with him and uses the most profanity. He appears to be a bit of a prude: he equates “bad language” with lack of intellectual rigor, and considers it an accomplishment when he thinks he has provoked a poster into using it.

    He is not used to an intellectually rigorous environment, apparently.

  85. chigau (無) says

    It’s a bit sad that his display of

    a real live spiritual person

    was such a fuckwad.

  86. Kemist says

    I am wondering, how on earth it took me that long to cross the line.. I should have done it at least 50 posts ago, when I started discussing your Guru’s weight and over-eating issues.

    Dude, you should have let it go waaaaaaayyyyyy back then.

    When the only argument you have left is “yo mama so fat”…

    That’s pretty much proof that even you know you have badly failed, and that everything else that will follow will also be made entirely out of fail.

    Add the weird insistant demands to be banned as if it would give you some kind of martyr status, and you seriously started to sound like a bad-tempered, particularly dim-witted 12-year-old.

    I have become really really sick and tried of showing the ‘spiritual’ side of mine here on this thread. It’s not easy you know.

    Especially when you can’t even define the term “spiritual”.

    Plus, the other point is, the tactics that are usually employed here by the ‘regulars’ do not always work.

    I would say they worked out very well here. The beginning of the thread had great entertainment value. Then it became boring.

    But I think it was necessary to show that you people were in fact talking to a real live spiritual person.

    Oooooh, so that’s what “spriritual” means.

    Somehow, I’m underwhelmed.

  87. Calilasseia says

    Heh, I just found out about this courtesy of a trip to FSTDT. Erecting a wholly specious charge of bestiality, which the individual in question can only get away with because the target has been dead for some time, as a means of trying to discredit a valid scientific theory enjoying massive evidential support, really shows how desperate creationists are.

    I no longer find it surprising to see such duplicity from creationists. This is because the father of modern American corporate creationism (and let’s face, it creationism is a corporate business in the USA), the arch-charlatan and pathological liar for doctrine known as Henry Morris, provided us, in a moment of wholly atypical candour, with the reason underpinning all creationist duplicity. In one of his screeds, he penned the following words:

    ..the main reason for insisting on the universal Flood as a fact of history and as the primary vehicle for geological interpretation is that God’s Word plainly teaches it! No geologic difficulties, real or imagined, can be allowed to take precedence over the clear statements and necessary inferences of Scripture.

    (Taken from Biblical Cosmology & Modern Science, pp 32-33 (1970), emphasis added in above)

    With those words, Morris revealed that the basic principle underpinning modern American corporate creationism consist of:

    If reality and doctrine differ, reality is wrong and doctrine is right.

    This is the fundamental principle underpinning creationism. To hell with what real world evidence says, my pet mythology is right, and when reality disagrees, reality is wrong.

    As a direct corollary thereof, creationists have to lie in order to propagandise for their doctrine, because reality sticks the middle finger to their doctrine and its assertions on a cosmic scale. In order to keep promoting creationism, its ideological stormtroopers have to lie, and indeed, Morris went a step further in establishing this, by providing creationists with the first ever “How To” manual for quote mining, and through this disreputable little text, encouraging quote mining as a major tactic for trying to establish hegemony for creationist doctrine. When quote mining, or any of the other “approved” means of disseminating lies fails, creationists have to resort to outright fabrications, the more lurid, lowbrow and lumpen, the better.

    The trouble being, of course, that the professional liars for doctrine who run the corporate businesses, prefer it if the ideological cannon fodder are restrained from their own forays into fabrication. Just as church organisations in the past sought to maintain control over doctrine, and enforce an orthodoxy, so too do the corporate creationist businesses and their CEOs/”Prophets”. Because if the cannon fodder are allowed to engage in fabrication themselves in an unrestrained manner, the light bulb might suddenly light up over their heads, to the effect that they’ve been fed made up shit by the corporate heads of creationism, and that indeed, as even an elementary examination of Morris’ writings reveals to anyone who paid attention in a science class, the whole of creationist doctrine is nothing more than a gigantic pile of made up shit.

    Our latest arrival here demonstrates in spades precisely why the enforcers of corporate creationist orthodoxy don’t like the cannon fodder to engage in their own fabrications. Because all too often, said fabrications merely add to the level of disrepute that already hangs around creationism in noxiously miasmatic fashion.

    As for this latest cheap sexual smear, I’m minded to note that the individuals usually caught engaging in deviant sex, are religious fundamentalists and their political arse-lickers in the Rethuglicon party. For example, the Rev. Gary Aldridge, who was found dead in his bath in kinky sex gear after an autoerotic asphyxiation episode, or Dallas megachurch minister Joe Barron, caught in an FBI Internet sting after soliciting under-age girls for sex, or Ted Haggard, who, whilst raving in public against homosexuality, hired a male prostitute, whom he also paid for illegal drugs. Oh, and we can now add Warren Jeffs to the list, who is now serving 35 years for porking pre-pubescent pussy on a grand scale. Not to mention John Paulk, who, whilst also engaging in public homophobic rants, was photographed flirting with the clientele of a gay bar, Douglas Goodman, imprisoned for three years for sexually assaulting members of his congregation, Lonnie Latham, who was arrested after indecently importuning an undercover police officer, or, most hilarious of all, George Alan Rekers, another publicly fulminating homophobe, who recruited a “travelling companion” from a website entitled “rentboy.com”, which supplies male prostitutes online.

    Indeed, I am minded to suggest that the sort of smear we’ve seen from our latest arrival here amongst the creo-trolls, is nothing more than a smokescreen erected to detract from the fact that [1] his doctrine is peddled by professional liars and charlatans, some of whom have been imprisoned for criminal activity connected with their creationist propagandising (Kent Hovind, anyone?), and [2] several of the people who subscribe to his doctrine, along with other tenets of religious fundamentalism, are proven sex criminals, not merely asserted to be so. And, given the intellectual indolence that frequently accompanies creationist trolling on rationalist forums and blogs, I’m tempted to ask if our latest arrival alighted upon the idea of smearing Darwin with a fake charge of bestiality, after a spot of roadkill humping with one or more of his doubtless polydactylous companions.

  88. Mick says

    I just wanted to ask kohldamunga…did you have fun masturbating to your little fantasy of Darwin fucking gorillas?

    You are on the wrong page-I’m sure a “gorilla porn fanfic” page exists out there somewhere, rule 34 applies. You are on the internet after all.

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