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Sep 14 2012

Dr Pepper vs the creationists

You might remember the quiet unassuming soda Dr. Pepper from its recent foray into potentially-parody toxic masculinity with its Dr Pepper Ten campaign. It appears the company has discovered that controversy is really good for its business, so its marketers came up with a new brilliant plan: make an ad that references evolution.

“What? But that’s not controversial at all! Tons of products have obliquely mentioned evolution in a mild and tangential sort of way!” you say. And you might be right, if the intended market wasn’t heavily populated by antiscience creationists on a hair trigger.

The ad in question:

Do you remember how many creationists lined up for hours to get a chicken sandwich at Chick-Fil-A, ostensibly in defense of “freedom of speech”? What do you want to bet that there’s a heavy overlap between those folks, defending a company’s religiously-motivated bigotry against gays, and the creationists now apparently boycotting this ad?

Granted, the news of this “boycott” comes entirely from the Facebook thread linked in the first paragraph, and has yet to manifest itself in an actual boycott that anyone notices. I’d wait until any such movement picks up any steam before we start calling evolution-denying anti-gay bigots hypocrites. For now, they’re mostly all just tired old tropes like “This Advertisement is wrong. If man would have evolved from a ape there would be no apes.”

(But only on that point. You’re still free to call out their hypocrisies in deciding that humans are specially created by an infallible being and somehow that infallible being created gays that way and totally hates them.)

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  1. 1
    desoto

    You can wait, but they have proven time and again that they are hypocrites!

  2. 2
    pipenta

    Do I have to drink prune cola now to show my cred?

  3. 3
    Argle Bargle

    I don’t boycott Dr. Pepper because of their advertising. I boycott it because it tastes nasty.

  4. 4
    Jason Thibeault

    Rodney: hear hear. I can’t stand the stuff.

  5. 5
    cethis

    I do have to credit their ad department for being bold. As for the soda itself. Dr. Pepper tastes like Dr. Pepper, and that’s not good.

  6. 6
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    Dr. Pepper and Goldschlager taste fabulous together. The cinammon liquor changes the icky soda enough that it becomes not only drinkable, but >gasp> GOOD.

  7. 7
    CompulsoryAccount7746, Sky Captain

    Dr Pepper makes you… walk?
    So that was how Beibei did it…

  8. 8
    Argle Bargle

    Tony #6

    I’ll take your word for it. Since I’m not fond of Goldschlager I won’t try the experiment.

  9. 9
    geekadoo

    Don’t drink Dr. Pepper, even though Diet Dr. Pepper used to be my drink of choice. Quit after the he-man woman-haters ads. After Now, the kids in my family will tell anyone that will listen not to drink it. 6-year-old boy: “If you drink Dr. Pepper, you think boys are better than girls, and that’s not true.” 10-year-old girl: “I’m watching you. You’d better not be drinking Dr. Pepper.”

  10. 10
    bionicfreefall

    I’m a little suprised that no one has mentioned Dr. Pepper’s “I’m a FreeThinker” t-shirt. I saw it on one of their tv commercials and was a little suprised. It seems that their ad agency might be home to someone rational. http://drpepper.spreadshirt.com/-I12058465

  11. 11
    Nepenthe

    Aaaargh! Not the evolutionary “progress” meme! Please no! Kill it dead! It has saturated our culture to the point where even my professors talk about “more evolved” organisms/taxa. *gnaws own leg off*

  12. 12
    silomowbray, sans frottage pour la douche

    Dr. Pepper isn’t my pop of choice, but I think it’s delicious. So screw all you haters! The Dr. is made of Win!

    (If you want nasty, I dare you to try Tahiti Treat. Jesus fuck that is one hideous drink.)

  13. 13
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    silomowbray says:

    Dr. Pepper isn’t my pop of choice, but I think it’s delicious. So screw all you haters! The Dr. is made of Win!

    (If you want nasty, I dare you to try Tahiti Treat. Jesus fuck that is one hideous drink.)

    I love that you call it “pop”.
    I live in the southeast United States, and they call everything ‘Coke’ or ‘Pepsi’. It doesn’t matter what it is. It’s so damned aggravating. If I want Coke, I say Coke. If I want a Mello Yello, that’s what I ask for. If I’m trying to talk about carbonated, flavored beverages, I say soda. It’s more inclusive. So is pop (isn’t that more a northern US thing?).

    I wonder what soda pop Jesus would consume…Mr. Pibb? Crush? Grapico?

  14. 14
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    Nepenthe:

    *gnaws own leg off*

    You know you’re supposed to let one of the entitled menz do that right? And they’re supposed to get permission slips signed in triplicate.

  15. 15
    ibbica

    I love that you call it “pop”.
    I live in the southeast United States, and they call everything ‘Coke’ or ‘Pepsi’. It doesn’t matter what it is. It’s so damned aggravating. If I want Coke, I say Coke. If I want a Mello Yello, that’s what I ask for. If I’m trying to talk about carbonated, flavored beverages, I say soda. It’s more inclusive. So is pop (isn’t that more a northern US thing?).

    I wonder what soda pop Jesus would consume…Mr. Pibb? Crush? Grapico?

    I always thought “pop” for “soft drinks” (how widespread is *that* term for “carbonated beverage without alcohol”, btw?) was mainly a Canadian thing, at least within North America; “soda” I’ve hard it from folks from some of the northern states, and always makes me think they’re talking about “club soda” or “soda water”… “Soda pop”? How delightfully quaint! ;)

    I do agree that the whole “call everything Coke or Pepsi” is ridiculous :P

    I always thought Dr. Pepper was supposed to be a root beer, but apparently not. That may be why I too think it’s gross, though… I always expect a root beer flavour and am disappointed every time :( (And “Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr Pepper”? WTH? Ewwwwww…)

    To answer your question: Jesus would drink Coke.

  16. 16
    Nick Gotts

    The message of the ad would seem to be that Dr. Pepper cures kyphosis, so I’m not sure they shouldn’t be sued for false advertising :-p

    Not only is that graphic meme horribly overused, the intermediate stages would never have been viable: the real intermediates must actually have used two distinct gaits, one quadrupedal, the other bipedal and more or less fully upright.

  17. 17
    Argle Bargle

    silomowbray #12

    (If you want nasty, I dare you to try Tahiti Treat. Jesus fuck that is one hideous drink.)

    There are other nasty sodas besides Dr. Pepper. I have had exactly one sip of Moxie and didn’t swallow it.

  18. 18
    elainehampton

    I thought Jeebus turned water into Grape Nehi, walked on it (without washing his feet first), and then told everyone it was wine. They actually believed him.

    Ew.

  19. 19
    silomowbray, sans frottage pour la douche

    Tony and ibbica might enjoy this:

    Pop vs. Soda Map of the U.S. (and a chunk of Canada).

    I’m a Western Canadian, and we call it “pop.” I, too, don’t get calling it “Coke.” I’d be very confused in the South.

    Our host and my fellow countryman Jason is, I believe, in Eastern Canada, so instead of “pop” he probably uses a French epithet.

    *flees*

  20. 20
    Jason Thibeault

    Yeah, I picked up “soda” from my various Minnesotan friends, but otherwise I always said “pop”.

    Or “maudit pop”, I suppose.

  21. 21
    Argle Bargle

    Years ago I was in Oklahoma. At a diner I ordered Coke and the waitress asked what kind of coke I wanted. After a minute or two of talking past each other, we determined that what I called soda she called coke. I ended up with Pepsi because they didn’t have Coke.

  22. 22
    Jason Thibeault

    I’ve had a similar conversation but with generic terms. “What kind of drink would you like?” “Cola.” “Is Pepsi okay?”

    I’m always very very sorely tempted to answer “Is Pepsi cola-flavored?” But I usually just say “yes, that’s fine.”

  23. 23
    Apparently Not Erin

    The answer to that is actually, “Do you think I would have used the generic name if the brand mattered to me?”

  24. 24
    Jason Thibeault

    I always demand name-brand Erin though.

  25. 25
    Apparently Not Erin

    According to your impostercide, I am not Erin despite using the name for decades. I had to do a password recovery to make sure no one registered my email while I wasn’t looking. Perhaps I should change my name to ErinTM.

    And for the record: I’ve always referred to sugary carbonated beverages as pop and I’m also from Eastern Canada (but Jason already knew that).

  26. 26
    Jason Thibeault

    Erin: if the password reset doesn’t work, let me know via email and I can look into it.

  27. 27
    Apparently Not Erin

    The email wasn’t the problem – it hasn’t got an account attached to it. It started working again when I changed my name so someone, somewhere has got to be registered as Erin.

  28. 28
    Nepenthe

    @Tony

    Whoops! Sorry to have forgotten! In my defense, it was an emergency and no men were handy. Even all my pets are female.

  29. 29
    theobromine

    Funny thing: Way back before the turn of the century, in the halcyon days of Usenet, one of the regulars on the talk.origins newsgroup use the handle “Dr Pepper”. His trademark was that he ended every post with the statement, “Now please state the theory of creationism”.

  30. 30
    JohnnieCanuck

    theo,

    Did anyone ever answer “Goddit”? I’m guessing yes.

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