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Wingnut Wants Palin to Lead a New Party

A right wing former legislator and conservative power broker has come up with what may be the greatest idea ever. Steve Baldwin wants Sarah Palin to lead a new conservative party to replace the Republican party the way the Republicans once replaced the Whig party.

It has become increasingly clear that the GOP leadership will do everything in its power to prevent the party from being influenced in any way by the Tea Party. I have given up on the GOP and am simply not sure it can ever be reformed. I would never have said this a few years ago, but it may be time to create a conservative Third Party. Sarah Palin, among others, has suggested doing just this. But how do we do form a new Third Party without handing the Democrats many electoral victories for years to come?

The biggest obstacle to creating a Third Party is the fear conservatives have that by voting Third Party, it will weaken the GOP, thus allow more Democrats to win. And that’s a legitimate fear and is why all Third Parties in existence today receive only a few percentage points every election and have zero impact upon the political process.

However, there is a way to create a Third Party without helping the Democrats win and that involves using the power of the internet to create a Third Party on paper but not launch it until it is strong enough to be competitive…

Once the party launches and it is obvious to voters that it will be a viable party, I predict many more voters will pile on. The new party will do to the GOP what the GOP did to the Whig Party 150 years ago: it will replace the GOP as the main party contesting the Democrat Party. We would also need a stable of respected national conservative leaders such as Sarah Palin and others to lead the charge on such an effort. A well-funded marketing plan would be needed with a heavy emphasis on using the social media. Such an effort may take years but even the process of building a viable Third Party may be beneficial. It will send a strong message to the Republican Party that if it continues its liberal drift, it will be replaced. Perhaps even the mere existence of such an effort will possibly save the GOP…

However, it will not be enough to create a Third Party and hope that millions of disaffected voters will automatically join it. Some thinking will need to go into creating a party platform. Voters will not break from the GOP unless the new Third Party has a compelling platform that will unite conservatives, libertarians, the Christian Right, and the Tea Party movement. These groups all have their differences but I believe we can find a consensus on dozens of constitutional principles such as downsizing the federal government, balancing the budget, reforming entitlements, cutting taxes across the board, defense of the 2nd amendment, the elimination of earmarks and crony capitalism, the development of our natural resources for our energy needs and so forth.

Even on the social issues, I believe a coalition between social and fiscal conservatives could be formed around the issue of eliminating all federal abortion funding, reversing Roe vs. Wade (let the states fight it out), and prohibiting the Federal government from granting special rights to people based upon sexual behavior (laws that almost always infringe on our religious, property, and freedom of association rights). I believe such a platform would unite all factions of conservatives and libertarians.

The internet has been used to unite millions of people for all kinds of causes. Why can’t it be used to build the infrastructure of a new Third Party? For this to become a reality, a group of respected leaders from the Tea Party, the Christian Right, and the libertarian right would have to come together to form this new party, agree on a set of principles and then launch the website to be used to college pledges.

I think this is a brilliant idea. I recommend nominating Sarah Palin for president and Louis Gohmert for vice-president. And I suggest calling it the American Taliban Party.

Comments

  1. John Pieret says

    reversing Roe vs. Wade (let the states fight it out)

    Yep, making the Republican/Conservative parties exclusively the province of older white males is a brilliant strategy!

  2. says

    If Palin were to head up anything involving actual responsibility, past performance shows she’d probably quit halfway through her commitment anyway.

    I find it amusing that this guy thinks Libertarians would unite around a social platform opposing “creating special rights for people based on their sexual behavior,” which is code for opposing same-sex marriage. The only Libertarians I know who don’t think the government should recognize same sex marriages are the ones who don’t think the government should play any role whatsoever in defining marriage.

  3. matty1 says

    I’m against creating special rights based on sexual behaviour, that’s why I don’t think only people who behave sexually with a member of the opposite sex should be allowed to marry the person they love.

  4. otrame says

    Oh, PLEASE don’t throw me in the briar patch, Steve. Whatever else you do to me, just don’t throw me in the briar patch!!

  5. moarscienceplz says

    Yes. The Republicans Party has always been an uneasy alliance between greedy scumballs who don’t give a shit about anybody but themselves, and paranoid whackaloons who fear and hate anybody who doesn’t own Pat Boone records. This way, both groups can proudly display their true feelings and save the rest of us the trouble of having to figure it out.

  6. doublereed says

    It’s really just two main groups isn’t it? Libertarians and conservative christians? And they’re fighting the ‘crony Republicans’?

    If anything, they should unite under what is uniting most Americans in politics, being against money in politics. But it’s kind of difficult to run against money in politics when you’re a bunch of paid hacks. If they really wanted to do a third party they follow the likes of David Brat who basically just raked Eric Cantor over the coals for being a corporate sell-out. Hammer that drum more.

  7. Chris J says

    Maybe I’m missing something, but what exactly the difference between the new GOP’s platform and the old one’s?

  8. says

    BALDWIN IS RIGHT ED BRATYON!!!
    WE CONSERVATIVES HAVE TO SPLIT OFF FROM THE GOP AND FORM OUR OWN PARTY UNITING THE DESPARATE GROUPS THAT ARE ALREADY UNITED UNDER THE GOP AND THAT ARE DIFFERENT BUT BELIEVE THE SAME THINGS AND ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME PEOPLE AND WILL BACK IDEAS LIKE GUNS TAX CUTS CHRISTIAN SUPREMACY FAG-BAITING AND SLUT SHAMING!!! WE HAVE TO STAND ON OUR OWN AWAY FROM THE GOP BUT WITH THEIR BACKERS THEIR BASE AND ALSO THEIR PLATFORM!!!
     
    VOTERS WILL ABANDON THE GOP AND FLOCK TO OUR PARTY WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT WE ARE DIFFERENTLY THE SAME!!!

  9. says

    He is right about third party fears though. It’s why the Democratic Party down there keeps is abysmal on privacy issues and torture, is increasingly toadying to corporate issues, but still keeps getting the left to vote for it. “But Republicans…!” is enough to ensure that Overton window keeps shifting right.

  10. Chiroptera says

    (let the states fight it out)

    Right. Until too many states choose the wrong side (or the state in which they happen to live chooses the wrong side), then it’s back to getting the Federal Government to set things right.

  11. Chiroptera says

    Because DOMA and all those proposed Constitutional amendments about banning abortion and flag burning are all about letting the states fight it out.

  12. dingojack says

    “…all Third Parties in existence today receive only a few percentage points every election and have zero impact upon the political process.

    Really? Tell that to Mr Gore and Mr Nader.

    However, there is a way to create a Third Party without helping the Democrats win and that involves using the power of the internet to create a Third Party on paper but not launch it until it is strong enough to be competitive.

    Hey here’s idea — why don’t you have a Second American Revolution and march on Washington. Worked so well last time….

    The internet has been used to unite millions of people for all kinds of causes. Why can’t it be used to build the infrastructure of a new Third Party?

    (see Snakes on a Plane, the aforementioned ‘Second American Revolution’ etc.)

    For this to become a reality, a group of respected leaders from the Tea Party…”

    Wait now, you actually think anyone gives a rat’s ass what you bunch of yokels (apologies to Cletus and his extended family for tarnishing their good name) think?!? Based on recent events you’d only get a couple of hundred people wandering up to your rallies. (Assuming it’s not just slightly damp, that is).

    ” … the Christian Right, and the libertarian right would have to come together to form this new party, agree on a set of principles…”

    Do they have any?!? Or, more appositely, do they have any in common?1?

    “… and then launch the website to be used to college pledges.”

    I saw a documentary about this — Animal House.

    @@
    Dingo

  13. lpetrich says

    As long as we in the US continue to use First Past The Post, third parties will be either irrelevant or spoilers. That’s Duverger’s Law.

    So why isn’t anyone discussing proportional representation???

  14. abb3w says

    @7, doublereed

    It’s really just two main groups isn’t it? Libertarians and conservative christians? And they’re fighting the ‘crony Republicans’?

    There’s at least two sub-factions to the “crony” GOP (the neocon/jingocon faction, and some surviving Rockefeller types); and demarcation between all four is fuzzy. Additionally, there’s a fifth faction of RINOs who haven’t figured out that they’re a lot closer to the Democratic party than they are to the other 85% of the GOP.

  15. caseloweraz says

    A split in the Republican Party led Theodore Roosevelt to form the Bull Moose Party in 1912. Perhaps Sarah Palin should follow that tradition. The name of that party becomes a problem, though. Reviving the “Bull Moose” name carries unwanted undertones of progressivism. I suggest rejecting the “Moose” part of the name, but keeping the other.

    Steve Baldwin: However, there is a way to create a Third Party without helping the Democrats win and that involves using the power of the internet to create a Third Party on paper but not launch it until it is strong enough to be competitive…

    Sure, because the Internet is a paper thing, innit? And also, it’s well known that the Democrats have little knowledge of or influence in the Internet, compared to Republicans.

    /sarc

  16. coffeehound says

    “It has become increasingly clear that the GOP leadership will do everything in its power to prevent the party from being influenced in any way by the Tea Party.”
    Yeah, the whole, shut-down-the-government, shoot-ourselves-in-the-foot-on-immigration, freakout over-the-birth-certificate, get-nothing-passed-for-five-years,Oh,-my-God,-he’s-got-his-feet-on-the-desk thing? No Tea Party there, nothing to see, move along.

  17. Chiroptera says

    It has become increasingly clear that the GOP leadership will do everything in its power to prevent the party from being influenced in any way by the Tea Party.

    In other countries, this would be viewed as a political party whose existence is to advance a particular agenda trying to maintain party discipline against a counter-productive minority element so that the goals may be more effectively implemented.

  18. bushrat says

    Using social media would be a great tool, exceot their chosen demographic of old white people and religio-fascists either can’t/won’t use the internet or would never get past youtube ‘cute cat’ videos.

  19. says

    in the 19th Century the US had the Know Nothings. A 21st Century movement with Sarah Palin in charge could be called the Do Nothings, since Palin is likely to do nothing that involves actual effort.

  20. EnlightenmentLiberal says

    So why isn’t anyone discussing proportional representation???

    I am. I have been strongly for years. Change the house into a national parliament, modeled on the Israeli Knesset election laws.

    I also think money in politics is a problem. However, I think it’s a mere symptom of a far bigger problem – massive wealth disparities? I’d rather focus on that problem with radical wealth redistribution programs, such as 90%+ income taxes on the filthy reach, 99%+ estate taxes on the filthy rich, increase public free education, public welfare, public free job training, – stuff like that.

  21. grumpyoldfart says

    Has Sarah got a psychic to make decisions for her?

    Who can forget the Reagan years with little hen-pecked Ronnie getting bossed around by Nancy and her psychic.

  22. D. C. Sessions says

    Has Sarah got a psychic to make decisions for her?

    Dunno. Would a psychotic do?

  23. AsqJames says

    I think you’re all missing the key part of that screed:

    A well-funded marketing plan would be needed…

    Grifters gotta grift.

  24. John Pieret says

    D.C. Sessions:

    Dunno. Would a psychotic do?

    She already has those practically coming out of her ears just within her own family.

  25. dingojack says

    lpetrich (#15) – “As long as we in the US continue to use First Past The Post, third parties will be either irrelevant or spoilers. That’s Duverger’s Law.”

    That’ll be surprising news for UK’s Nick Clegg and the Liberal Democrats. (Which are they BTW?)

    Dingo

  26. Ex Patriot says

    With her leading it would be the same as the blind leading the blind through a mine field

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