Wingnut: Be Like Moses, Impeach Obama!


Dan Popp, writing at Alan Keyes’ Renew America site, is tired of hearing all the political reasons why the Republicans won’t impeach President Obama. He’s mad as hell and he’s not gonna take it anymore and he just has one question: What about God?

What about God?

What if Moses had thought better of defying his Obama, knowing that the consequence might be a more severe slavery for his brethren, rather than freedom? What if David had come to a reasonable conclusion about his prospects of victory over the nine-foot-tall Obama before him? – or Daniel, or Gideon, or Elijah, or the Apostles? What if the early Christian martyrs had looked at their approval ratings?

If these examples seem too remote, how about George Washington with his frostbitten few facing the greatest military in the world? Or those Christians who dared to try to eradicate chattel slavery, a tragedy that must have seemed like a permanent part of the human condition? How about Martin Luther King, Jr.’s renewal of their struggle? What of the young man in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square?

What if any of these had balked at the insurmountable “political realities” before them?

Sad to say, these days most of the politics of the left and the right seem to operate on the assumption that there is no God. “In Polls We Trust.” If we believe there is a God, we’ll move toward the right with the assurance that He will either help us gain a miraculous victory, or use our defeat for a greater good…

If there is a God, then what is right should trump any other consideration. He is the One who determines the rise and fall of nations, after all. If God exists, and if it appears that the President – any President – has misused his authority, then we must do what is right and impeach him.

Great. Now if you’ll just name me a president who didn’t misuse his authority in some way, we’ll be all set. I’ll wait….

You got nothing, do ya? That’s what I thought. My favorite part:

We need a boatload of Esthers today. If I perish, I perish, but this has to be stopped.

There is nothing funnier to me than watching these people declare their own unbreakable courage in the face of no threat whatsoever.

Comments

  1. Chiroptera says

    If there is a God, then what is right should trump any other consideration.

    What is right should trump other considerations regardless of whether there is a god.

    What is funny, though, is how often evangelicals constantly use their god to justify doing evil.

  2. raven says

    If there is a God, then what is right should trump any other consideration. …

    1. If there was a benign xian god, Dan Popp and a few thousand fundie leaders would have long ago ended up as a handful of carbon after a lightning strike!!!

    2. Which gods? There are thousands at least. If Thor exists, then winter will end after he sends the Frost Giants scurrying back to Helheim.

    3. If there is a god, then why doesn’t that supposed all powerful omni-everything god ever actually say something and/or do something by himself.

    Far as we know, my cat is far more powerful than Dan Popp’s god.

  3. dingojack says

    My dear Popp,
    Where is the bit in bible where Moses impeaches Pharaoh?
    Keep looking… I’ll wait
    Dingo

  4. John Pieret says

    If there is a God, then what is right should trump any other consideration. He is the One who determines the rise and fall of nations

    What? The Lord of all things, the Creator of this huge universe, the rainer of fire and brimstone, the drowner of everyone but for 8 people and a few thousand “kinds” of animals, needs numbnuts like Dan Popp to do his will? Even Moses didn’t do much … he just kept telling Pharaoh that Yahweh was going to bad things to Egypt and then stood back.

  5. Chiroptera says

    Ah yes, every Passover Jews all over the world celebrate how Moses bravely led the children of Israel to block Pharoah’s policies in Congress and then to impeach him.

  6. dingojack says

    What if Moses had thought better of defying his Obama, knowing that the consequence might be a more severe slavery for his brethren, rather than freedom? What if David had come to a reasonable conclusion about his prospects of victory over the nine-foot-tall Obama before him? – or Daniel, or Gideon, or Elijah, or the Apostles? What if the early Christian martyrs had looked at their approval ratings?”

    What if any of these had ever even vaguely possibly occured?*
    What if Frodo had told Gandalf to get stuffed? What if Huck had sold Jim down the river? What if Peter had been made into a nice rabbit stew?
    @@
    Dingo
    ———
    * As opposed to be just some of the fairy-tales from My First Big Book of Fairy-tales?

  7. raven says

    This is standard fundie xian god babble. If you try to make sense of it, you can’t. It’s like the barking of a dog and serves the same purpose.

    If Dan Popp wanted to be the New Moses, he would gather together the Children of Oogedy Boogedy god and head for their Promised Land. Because the New Pharoah, Barack Obama and the New Egypt, once know as the USA aren’t so great for the New Jews, aka as fundie rightwingnuts.

    As to where this New Promised Land is, who knows. There are 220 countries in the world and one of them must be a xian paradise. I suppose the two leading ones are the Philippines and Uganda right now.

    Of course it won’t happen. Fundies never, ever walk their talk and Dan Popp isn’t going to leave his keyboard to go walkabout with a million or so fellow believers.

  8. anubisprime says

    # OP

    There is nothing funnier to me than watching these people declare their own unbreakable courage in the face of no threat whatsoever.

    Christian ain’t a Christian unless its oppressed.

    Thet ‘jus lurve’ ‘em some of that ole’ time martyrdom, then they they can be jus’ like their hero…weeeeee!…lets play make believe!

    These fuckers are an insult to juvenile thinking processes world wide!

  9. says

    To be fair, like Obama the Pharoah was pretty bad. The last straw was when his troops when from house to house giving the first born male children subsidies for health insurance.

  10. Moggie says

    We need a boatload of Esthers today.

    Well ok, it’ll smell a bit, but you just need some carboxylic acid and some alcohol. Then-
    What? Oh. Never mind.

  11. dharleyman says

    Sometimes my 12 year old brain lurking deep in the recesses of my unconscious forces its way to the forefront. I kept reading his name, unconsciously I swear, as Dan Poop.

  12. Chiroptera says

    What if Moses had thought better of defying his Obama, knowing that the consequence might be a more severe slavery for his brethren, rather than freedom? What if David had come to a reasonable conclusion about his prospects of victory over the nine-foot-tall Obama before him? – or Daniel, or Gideon, or Elijah, or the Apostles? What if the early Christian martyrs had looked at their approval ratings?

    What if Heaven’s Gate didn’t take all that poison to get a ride on the spaceship behind Comet Hale-Bopp?

  13. Pierce R. Butler says

    … how about George Washington with his frostbitten few facing the greatest military in the world?

    When did Washington & his fellow insurrectionists fight either the Ottoman Empire (still kicking major ass circa 1776) or the Kingdom of France (building up to sweep from Spain to Russia a few years after the US revolution finished)?

    Come to think of it, GW & rabble did fight with the French – on the same side. The former would have gotten nowhere without the latter (mostly due to massive shipments of guns and powder, but also troops: the French took more casualties at the war-ending Battle of Yorktown than did the local team).

  14. Taz says

    Maybe the God of Moses will step up and kill Obama’s children as a warning. That’s his usual MO.

  15. abb3w says

    @0 Ed Brayton:

    Now if you’ll just name me a president who didn’t misuse his authority in some way, we’ll be all set. I’ll wait….

    My inner pedant points out William Henry Harrison didn’t last long enough to abuse it; about the only use he managed was calling a special session of congress, per Article II Section 3.

  16. Chiroptera says

    abb3w, #19:

    Heh heh. Reminds me of Gore Vidal’s opinion on the “best” President in modern times: “Gerald Ford. Least time served, least dammage done.”

  17. dhall says

    #17 – Don’t forget that the French Navy scored a big win at the Battle of the Chesapeake over the British Royal Navy that prevented Cornwallis from getting the reinforcements and supplies he needed at Yorktown. DeGrasse easily chased off the incompetent Graves, who did such a lousy job commanding the British side that some of the British sail of the line never even fired a shot before Graves ordered the withdrawal.
    A couple of years later, Rodney and Hood turned things around on DeGrasse at the Saintes, but by then the British had given up on the 13 seaboard colonies.

  18. says

    I find the David and Goliath story kind of funny. People like to pretend it’s an underdog story, but it’s not. It’s the story of a guy who brought a gun to a sword fight.

  19. vereverum says

    Moses didn’t defy Pharaoh, as pointed out by dingojack, he pleaded with him to let the people go. Goli wasn’t David’s Obama, Saul was and David was ever respectful of Saul even to refusing to kill him when he had the chance (it would’ve been funny since Saul was attending a call of nature at the time, dharleyman’s comment made me remember that). Daniel had nothing against Nebuchadnezzar, he just refused to worship the statue. Daniel was always respectful in his dealing with Nebuc. Gideon, Elijah, the Apostles, none of them called for the impeachment of their leaders. The leaders are appointed by God. That’s the whole point behind the Nebuchadnezzar insanity story. A boatload of Esthers? What’s Obama supposed to do? Marry her (them) like Ahasuerus did? Again, all she did was plead her case.
    GW and the whole American Revolution was a fight against God since even in the New Testament people are supposed to obey their leaders which are established by God, in this case George, the third to bear that name.
    Don’t these people even read their own book?

  20. Nick Gotts says

    I must admit, the thought of the White House undergoing a plague of frogs has a certain attraction.

  21. dingojack says

    ” A boatload of Esthers? What’s Obama supposed to do? Marry her (them) like Ahasuerus did? Again, all she did was plead her case.”

    And that whole dropping a millstone on his head*…

    Dingo
    ——–
    * An object lesson to all those Churchladys married to wife-beating-bastards out there!

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