Upcoming Network Downtime


Freethought Blogs will be shutting down for a couple hours around 2 am EST so we can move everything to a new server. Tomorrow morning it will be a whole new network — new server, new theme, new logo, new design, totally new front page. FTB launched on Aug. 1, 2011 and the new FTB will launch exactly three years later.

Comments

  1. brucemartin says

    I hope there will be a LONGER list of recent posts, both for each author and FTB-wide.

    Too often, if six people post in the same hour, we can’t find a story from 2 hours ago.

    Thanks and best wishes.

  2. anubisprime says

    Suppose it is to much to ask , or indeed receive, a functional edit facility?…jus’ askin’!

  3. says

    An edit function? Why? I vote for getting rid of comments entirely!(*1) Comments just encouragse morons and jerks (present company included) to leave comments, and who needs that?(*2)

     
    *1. Including this one.
    *2. Spoiler Alert: Nobody!

  4. Olav says

    Don’t give in to them, Ed. Comment editing creates chaos on a fast moving weblog. Except if it can be enabled for a very short time after submitting (a few minutes maximum).

    Of course people should learn how to use preview, and perhaps the preview button can be made more prominent (than the submit button). Other than that people just need to learn to live with their spelling misstakkes.

  5. says

    This is off-topic, but the best place I could find:
    I submitted a session proposal for FTBCon3 on July 22. I do not know if it was received. Will there be acknowledgements sent out that proposals were received? And what is the schedule for informing people if their proposals have been accepted, and if so, when they will be?

  6. anubisprime says

    Take the point about the preview function but a lot of grammatical even spelling or indeed structural errors still slip through unseen… it seems that an edit facility is much more user friendly, but that is a subjective call…if folks are happy enough with the format fine…it is no biggy…but it would be ‘kewl’….

  7. smhll says

    It would be fun (wouldn’t it) if the whole new package came with a whole new “loyal opposition”. (I’m getting tired of the same few anti-memes.)

  8. Olav says

    Anubisprime #20:

    Take the point about the preview function but a lot of grammatical even spelling or indeed structural errors still slip through unseen…

    If the error is truly so atrocious that people won’t understand the meaning of your contribution, why not just follow up with a correction and/or clarification. Otherwise you should (and can) count on others to understand what you intended to write and to forgive any errors or spelling mistakes.

    The problem with allowing comments to be edited is that people will sometimes use that possibility dishonestly. Discussions can be affected by this. For instance, you would reply to a comment I made and I quickly edit my comment to say something different, in order to make your reply look foolish or worse.

    This can be prevented by giving only a very short time after submitting after which editing will be disallowed. But when is it short enough? I believe it is better to make commenting a two stage process: make previewing mandatory, or at least make it the default action after clicking the largest button in sight.

  9. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says

    Here’s my wish list: I’d line the front page never to misinterpret my laptop PC and send me the totally useless “ftp_portal_theme” version of the front page. And when it does, I’d like it to respond correctly when I click the “View Full Site” link.

    (Strangely enough, it also serves the “ftp_portal_theme” page to my cell phone, but when I click “View Full Site” it actually does show me the full site. But this doesn’t work on my laptop.)

    Also, what happened to the “report technical issues” link that used to be at the top of the page? I’d like to see that return.

    Oh, and yes, I’d also like an edit facility.

  10. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says

    @Olav 22:

    I frequent a number of blogs where comment editing is allowed. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the behavior you describe. Why do you think such a thing would happen here?

  11. grasshopper says

    Thank God that Ed has not told us that the site revamp will “enhance your browsing experience”. It’s a pet hate of mine to be told in advance that, although any sort of experience is subjective, web designers just KNOW that personal experience can be defined by others.

  12. lochaber says

    I think I seen it over on Pharyngula, but not certain, and I’m also not certain weather it’s intentional, or if it just works out for the greater good.

    Heard someone claim that not being able to edit comments makes it harder for people to lie about what they posted, gaslight, etc.

    I’ve had a few times where I wished I could edit posts, but I think it’s a fairly minor concession for having an unalterable record.

    Plus, I think everyone knows comments are uneditable, and will be (usually? hopefully?) fairly forgiving of typos, etc. And bigger mistakes can be noted/corrected in a quick follow-up post.

    This network has a lot of issues arguing with immigrant trolls, and I think allowing editing posts would just encourage trolls more then it would benefit the regulars.

  13. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    @ ^ I disagree.

    I think the Slate and old Bad Astronomy (Discover site -ah the good old days!) method of allowing editing for five to 15 minutes is a good one which should be adopted -and if people are worried there can be an “edited” note on the comment itself after editing too.

    Hope the new FTB is a change for the better not worse.

    Suggest a new start policy for older posters and commenters is part of this too

  14. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    I.e. An amnesty for those banned on Pharygula and other blogs here.

  15. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    @10. Ed Brayton :

    By “edit facility” do you mean the ability to edit your own comments after you post them?”

    Yes.

    Its a feature on a lot of other good blogs / hosts / forum board thingys too.

  16. dingojack says

    wow that was quick! Less than 5 hours.
    OK – less avatars, more comments. Still some issues with placement of images and test. Other than that….
    Dingo

  17. drizzt says

    Where did the Last post /Next post buttons go ? Or are they still being implemented ? That’s the only quirk I have with the new FTB, other than that it looks cleaner and better in all.

  18. Olav says

    Hercules Grytpype-Thynne #25:

    @Olav 22:

    I frequent a number of blogs where comment editing is allowed. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the behavior you describe.

    I have.

    Why do you think such a thing would happen here?

    I am not saying it will, but if it should happen, it gets real ugly real fast.

    Plus, I still believe editing is completely unnecessary. A useless feature. A solution without a problem to justify it. So you have made a spelling mistake, who cares.

  19. D. C. Sessions says

    Slashdot has been around, basically, forever and has never allowed editing.

    If I had to generalize between those sites that permit editing and those that don’t, I’d say that the ones that don’t tend to be more contentious, where an accurate record matters. On sites where it’s all relatively low-key or low-stakes (not much in the way of trolls, flamers, etc.) editing is a low-cost convenience.

    Now think Pharyngula …

  20. mmfwmc says

    The site looks good, but I do have a couple of requests:
    The direction of the post navigation links feels wrong compared to other sites and what you had previously – although I’ll probably get used to that eventually, I don’t like it right now.

    Also, please put navigation to older and newer posts at the bottom of the page as well as the top. Makes it a lot easier when navigating after long posts.

    Finally, sometimes when I visit a page, the navigation links are missing entirely.

    Finally, regarding commenting, have you considered an associated forum for the site? It would make it easier to follow conversations. Then again, it’s work, it might mess with the dynamic you’ve got going here, etc. Just asking the question,* since I don’t really comment often.

    *I’ve been taking tips from right wing pundits.

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