Even Lively’s Transportation Policy is Idiotic


Deranged anti-gay bigot Scott Lively, you may have heard, is running for governor of Massachusetts. His platform of bigotry and discrimination and “let’s all declare that gay people are Nazis” is expected, but when asked for his position on transportation, it’s no less bizarre and inane:

Scott Lively

Pastor of Abiding Truth Ministries, Independent

Overcrowding in Mass. cities is a direct consequence of the globalist United Nations Agenda 21 project, which has been using land use policies and financial incentives to push humans out of the rural areas into the cities since 1992. Massachusetts has bought into Agenda 21 in a major way, though most citizens have never heard of it. I would reverse the Agenda 21 process and work to restore the model of environmentally-conscious self-sufficient agrarian farm-communities which New England was once known for, and which offer a substantially better and healthier way of life. This would alleviate the stress of overcrowding in the cities and restore struggling rural economies at the same time.

It’s brilliant answers like this that will explain why Lively is predicted to get dozens of votes in this election.

Comments

  1. Larry says

    Green acres is the place to be
    Farm living is the life for me
    Land spreading out so far and wide
    Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside

  2. says

    Will he also herd students, professors, and intellectuals in general out into the countryside to work on farms? He could call it something like, oh, say, …, Cultural Revolution. Yeah, something like that.

  3. raven says

    restore the model of environmentally-conscious self-sufficient agrarian farm-communities which New England was once known for,

    People gave up on agriculture in Masachusetts because it wasn’t suited for it.

    The glaciers from the last ice age, scraped off all the top soil and left a lot of sand, glacial till, and rocks everywhere. Plus it has a harsh climate with long, cold winters.

    Besides which “self sufficient agrarian farm-communities” sounds familar. Isn’t that what the hippies did? Wow, like far out.

    I don’t have a problem with this. It even sounds like fun. But it isn’t for everyone or even most people. And anyone who wants to can go ahead anyway, the USA still being a (sort of) free country. See you all at New Walden FTB’s pond!!!

  4. Doc Bill says

    If we could use Agenda 21 to ship people to Area 51 then I think we’d be on to something.

    To grease the wheels we might need some WD-40 and to clean up the mess, 409.

    10-4?

  5. busterggi says

    Wasn’t there someone else a little before the middle of the previous century who also wanted to reestablish agrarian culture to counter-effect the decay caused by urban living?

    BTW, here in CT our best crop is rocks, mostly basalt. Filling but not nutritious.

  6. Synfandel says

    Very interesting, Mr. Lively. Now, as we were asking, what is your transportation priority?

  7. infraredeyes says

    I live in semi-rural Massachusetts, on land that was farmed up until about the mid-1930s. It was then abandoned for the very good reason that its most successful crop is rocks (hence all the dry-stone walls). It’s about all I can do to raise a few tomatoes in the summer, and that’s with liberal applications of Miracle-Gro, so not exactly sustainable.

  8. blf says

    But, but, but… the FEMA camps are (hidden) in the countryside. So that’s where all the people will be sent one night anyways. This guy wants the people shipped to the camps! He’s in league with FEMA, the UN, and the reptilians!! Not to mention the trilateral commission, the illuminati, and the daleks!!!

  9. vmanis1 says

    Rather than the Chinese cultural revolution, I think Lively is following the Khmer Rouge model of herding the intellectual classes out into agricultural work, where a mark of intellectualism could be such a dangerous trait as wearing eyeglasses, and `agricultural work’ meant being executed. I do find it very mildly amusing to imagine the good inhabitants of Brookline, Framingham, West Newton, Roxbury, Brighton, and Mattapan being torn away from their jobs as software engineers, teachers, and insurance executives, placed on buses, and handed hoes as they start their new lives as productive units at Scott Lively Re-Education Camp #14.

    Lively’s effusions remind me of a word salad, but only if you call wilted vegetables laced with scorpion poison a salad.

  10. howardhershey says

    Lets see. Size of MA is 6,755,200 acres (10,555 sq. miles x 640 acres/sq. mi.). Population of MA is 6,692,824. So about 1 acre per person, assuming *all* the acreage is arable (would be just my luck to get a mosquito-filled bog or sand dune as my acre). That hardly is more rural than some wealthier suburbs. That would work out quite well, wouldn’t it.

  11. daved says

    Massachusetts is mostly good for growing cranberries. I remember Alistair Cooke quoting someone as saying “If America had been settled from west to east, New England would still be uninhabited.”

  12. says

    You know, I could almost get behind the idea of abandoning modern capitalism and moving to a more sustainable system, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what Lively means. He somehow expects to maintain mass industry (particularly mass defense industry) without massively automated farm corporations and urbanization.

  13. Trebuchet says

    “Agenda 21″ is probably a good approximation of the number of votes Lively will get.

  14. D. C. Sessions says

    You folk are WAY overthinking this. Lower your IQ to Lively’s for a bit: about a quart of moonshine and a few concussions should do it at least to get the idea.

    * Urban voters vote for Democrats
    * Rural voters vote for Republicans
    * Therefore, move the urban population into the countryside and they’ll all vote Republican!

  15. Ben P says

    Besides which “self sufficient agrarian farm-communities” sounds familar. Isn’t that what the hippies did? Wow, like far out.

    I don’t mean hippie communists, these are good old American self sufficient agrarian farm-communities where the patriarch rules with an iron fist and people believe in god!

  16. Stacey C. says

    As a native Mass resident and someone who lives in a W. MA farming town I have to defend it a bit. People out here (commercially) grow asparagus, strawberries, squashes, corn, pumpkins, etc. Also, tobacco but that’s less awesome. We have some great CSA’s that grow all sorts of things just fine. BUT I’m also reminded of the Fruitlands. When Amos Alcott decided to take himself and a bunch of intellectuals out to ‘get back to nature’. Yeah, that lasted all of two minutes. Mass has a long history of failed utopian projects. Not that *anything* Scott Lively stands for or believes should be anywhere near the word utopian.

  17. Doug Little says

    I wonder if the masses will be transported on trains out to these “farms”.

  18. matty1 says

    He wants to oppose Agenda 21 by creating more environmentally friendly communities? I assume the next trick will be to demonstrate his opposition to UN vaccination programmes by encouraging people to get vaccinated.

  19. Evan Brehm says

    Lively should consider moving to Alabama where people like Roy Moore get elected.

  20. robnyny says

    I grew up on what was basically a subsistence farm that sold about 60 gallons of milk per day for cash. That required 160 tillable acres to support a family of eight. We supplemented our basic diet with game from the 160 non-tillable acres, plus lots of things that grew wild (asparagus, berries, nuts). But unless you are going to live Irish-famine style on potatoes, it’s not going to work on an acre or two.

  21. says

    I would reverse the Agenda 21 process and work to restore the model of environmentally-conscious self-sufficient agrarian farm-communities…

    In other words, he wants to reduce a mobile and diverse multicultural population to a preindustrial state of small-town agrarian stasis and small minds confined in small churches.

    …which New England was once known for…

    …back in the days of the Salem witch-hunts and other spasms of ignorance and unreason.

  22. vmanis1 says

    Raging Bee, quoting Al Dente:

    Is Lively channeling Pol Pot?

    Okay, I think Al Dente just won this thread.

    Er, exsqueeze me, but I was the first person in this thread to mention the Khmer Rouge. I demand my first official thread-winning ceremony.

  23. hunter says

    “Overcrowding in Mass. cities is a direct consequence of the globalist United Nations Agenda 21 project, which has been using land use policies and financial incentives to push humans out of the rural areas into the cities since 1992.”

    Actually, people have been moving to cities since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.

    I hadn’t realized the UN was that old. I thought it was created after World War II.

  24. D. C. Sessions says

    Actually, people have been moving to cities since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.

    Longer than that. IIRC my archaeology from way back when, cities have been population sinks for as long as we’ve had them. Disease might be part of that, but for whatever reason surplus rural population moves to cities to make up urban NPG.

  25. corwyn says

    The population of Boston peaked in 1950’s. It is down by 225,000 people since then.

    I am all for farming, but the current populations of rural areas are already sufficient in most places to be self-sufficient farming communities, no need to move city-dwellers out there for that. And generally city-dwellers make terrible farmers.

  26. bmiller says

    corwyn: You error is looking at “Boston” as only including the municipal boundaries of the City of Boston. To claim that METROPOLITAN Boston has experienced significiant decline is a mistake. Cambridge, Dedham, Hingham, Revere, etc. are still “urban”. Heck the posh western faux-rural suburbs like Sudbury are FUNCTIONALLY and econimically urban, even if the residents pretend to be simple country folk.

  27. greg1466 says

    I would reverse the Agenda 21 process and work to restore the model of environmentally-conscious self-sufficient agrarian farm-communities which New England was once known for”

    Sounds like something Chairman Mao would have approved of…

  28. thorarin says

    His plan, while horrible, will work. When he starts sending unqualified people to farm less than ideal land, people will flee the state in droves and the cities will become much less crowded overnight.

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