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May 01 2014

Vallely: Obama a Muslim Terrorist Supporter

Paul Vallely is the far right’s favorite ex-general not named Jerry Boykin these days, having called for a citizen’s arrest of Obama and said that he would gladly lead a military coup to remove him from power. Now he’s claiming that not only is Obama a Muslim, but he supports Al Qaeda.

Because that would totally explain why he’s launched drone strikes to kill dozens of Al Qaeda leaders and approved the operation to kill Osama Bin Laden. That’s exactly what a supporter of Al Qaeda would do, isn’t it? Oh wait, I’m sure he only did those things to cover up the fact that he supports them. It’s an XK Red 27 technique.

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  1. 1
    Doug Little

    I’m sure he only did those things to cover up the fact that he supports them. It’s an XK Red 27 technique.

    Osama Bin Laden was just a patsy, Obama has been pulling the strings ever since he invented his time machine.

  2. 2
    Gregory in Seattle

    Paul Vallely openly and publicly admits that “he would gladly lead a military coup to remove him from power.”

    How is this not sedition? I’m all for First Amendment rights, but calling for an armed uprising against the duly elected government is a very serious crime.

  3. 3
    bushrat

    It’s only sedition or un-American when them liberal progressive athiest muslim Communazi’s on the left want to take “under God” out of the pledge or make Christians obey the law. It’s patriotism when a good god fearing completely reasonable, ethical, logical conservative Tru-American™ foments armed insurrection against the duly elected (but of coarse illegal and evil) government.

  4. 4
    Scr... Archivist

    Gregory in Seattle @2,

    Look into Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969).

  5. 5
    Gregory in Seattle

    @Scr… Archivist #4 – So sedition no longer exists in the United States? That certainly explains a lot.

  6. 6
    busterggi

    “he’s launched drone strikes to kill dozens of Al Qaeda leaders and approved the operation to kill Osama Bin Laden”

    Its called getting rid of the competition. Any Republican can understand that.

  7. 7
    raven

    How is this not sedition?

    It’s not treason either.

    It is however, treasonous

    Retired general Paul Valley openly hates the USA and its government.

    He is also not very bright. We have a legal way to remove people from power in the USA. It’s called elections, voting, and democracy.

  8. 8
    Gregory in Seattle

    @raven #7 – Nope. Sedition is advocating for the overthrow of the government, treason is actually raising arms in an effort to do so. That was the point I meant to make in #5: once sedition becomes an imminent threat and is therefore actionable under Brandenburg v. Ohio, it becomes treason and is no longer sedition.

  9. 9
    raven

    I’m sure I’m not alone wondering how kooks like Paul Valley and Boykin ever made general.

    It’s not unreasonable for our military leaders to show some appreciation for their country which pays them a handsome salary with a lot of perks.

    They are supposed to defend us, not destroy us, after all.

    PS: And what happens when a Valley clone gets a hold of one of our nukes? We have tens of thousands scattered everywhere and humans are very, very good at defeating any security arrangements they can make. Look what happens to Windows and IE on a routine basis.

  10. 10
    Modusoperandi

    Because that would totally explain why he’s launched drone strikes to kill dozens of Al Qaeda leaders and approved the operation to kill Osama Bin Laden.

    How else is Barack Hussein Obama going to climb Al Qaeda’s ladder, if not by eliminating those above him? Work for it? Earn it? Come on! Everybody knows that people like him are lazy! (/puts dogwhistle back in pocket)

  11. 11
    Larry

    This has gotten really tiresome. I’m curious to know how many times some wingnut and/or fundie has called Obama a muslim, terrorist, communist, al qaeda supporter, or nazi, or has claimed that he hates america, wants to destroy america, kill americans, or other such RW fantasy. Gotta be in the thousands.

  12. 12
    ottod

    To Ed:

    Sorry to post off-topic. I haven’t checked in for a few days. Today, I find that Chris Rodda’s blog is gone and a little looking hasn’t provided an explanation. Anything to share?

  13. 13
    Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden

    Oh wait, I’m sure he only did those things to cover up the fact that he supports them. It’s an XK Red 27 technique.

    You obviously don’t know anything about intelligence work, Ed.

  14. 14
    Loqi

    Killing the leader of an organization is what you do when you support said organization. Just look at the legions of Catholics who gather at the Vatican. They’re all supporters who want to kill the pope. I mean, it’s just common sense.

  15. 15
    Trebuchet

    @8, Gregory:

    …. treason is actually raising arms in an effort to do so.

    Like the morons in Nevada?

  16. 16
    mikeyb

    Citizen’s arrest. Had to bring than up didn’t ya. Classic citizen’s arrest 3:20.

  17. 17
    F [i'm not here, i'm gone]

    And yet, back in the day, you could have a visit of intimidation from the FBI in your school if you were wearing a t-shirt with Reagan in a targeting reticule or something. My, how times change. I don’t even think you could attend a presidential rally/visit with an AR-15 strapped to your back, and Reagan was another big gun nut supporter.

  18. 18
    Gregory in Seattle

    @Trebuchet #15

    @8, Gregory:
    …. treason is actually raising arms in an effort to do so.

    Like the morons in Nevada?

    There has been (to my knowledge) no overt move to overthrow the government. A lot of talk, yes, and a lot of criminal activity, but I don’t there has (yet) been anything that rises to the Constitutional definition of treason.

  19. 19
    democommie

    Boykin and Vallely both think that Dr. Strangelove was a documentary.

    I wonder if they both have the Curt Lemay bobblehead?

  20. 20
    Anri

    democommie:

    Boykin and Vallely both think that Dr. Strangelove was a documentary.

    …and that it had a happy ending.

  21. 21
    dogmeat

    How is this not sedition? I’m all for First Amendment rights, but calling for an armed uprising against the duly elected government is a very serious crime.

    The Supreme Court has moved towards allowing greater leeway in cases like these (which overall is a good thing). You can’t really claim to have free speech if you don’t allow people to be critical of the government. In this case he said he would lead such a movement and said it would be a good thing, may be necessary, etc., but each time he has done so he has also backed away and talked about it as peaceful protest. He has consistently suggested violent overthrow but then followed those suggestions with statements that violence should be avoided. To charge him with sedition would not only likely fail to obtain a conviction, but would feed into the RWNJ persecution complex. Also, an attempt to arrest him under such charges could likely end up with a standoff like the one in Nevada which again, wouldn’t accomplish anything more than pump up their 15 minutes of fame and anti-government rhetoric.

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