How Religion Can Twist a Mind


This is a disturbing video that demonstrates how religion can warp and twist a human mind into something vile and hateful and repulsive. It’s a preacher named Brother Dean at Arizona State University calling people “faggots” and “whores” while holding a sign that says “You deserve rape.”

I do like the Rickroll and the gorilla at the beginning. Notice that I didn’t say that religion does twist a mind, but that it can twist a mind. Of course the overwhelming majority of Christians are as appalled by this kind of thing as any atheist is.

Comments

  1. colnago80 says

    If such activity were occurring at Christopher Newport University, I’m sure that the blogs resident physics professor and math department chairman would be trotting out his no true Scotsman shtick.

  2. D. C. Sessions says

    “Brother Dean” also does his act at University of Arizona. Besides annoying the people out enjoying the last of the not-terribly-hot weather, he does provide an occasional opportunity for amusement.

    One of my sons got into a brief exchange with BD when he was ranting about sexual immorality (his favorite topic.) I wish I could recall the whole dialog, but BD apparently gave my son a perfect straight [1] line and so Alaric paused, looked surprised, and asked BD, “Are you coming on to me?”

    Which ended the day’s show.

    [1] No apologies

  3. Matrim says

    While I should be saddened by what this guy was preaching, honestly I was way more entertained by the counter-protestors and their signs and music. If only this happened way more consistently.

  4. dingojack says

    Alaric? Does he wear black clothes, have floppy, long, black-dyed hair and wear lots o’ eye-liner?
    :) Dingo

  5. a_ray_in_dilbert_space says

    Ed: “Of course the overwhelming majority of Christians are as appalled by this kind of thing as any atheist is.’

    Really? Because I don’t see xtians out there shouting this guy and his ilk down? I keep hearing that there are decent xtians out there. Where?

  6. Taz says

    I’m all for free speech, but how is “you deserve rape” not crossing a line where the university should step in to protect their students? It seems like a threat to me.

  7. raven says

    “Of course the overwhelming majority of Christians are as appalled by this kind of thing as any atheist is.’

    Really? Because I don’t see xtians out there shouting this guy and his ilk down? I keep hearing that there are decent xtians out there. Where?

    They do exist. They are hiding behind the Big Bang with their god.

    Well really, the fundies are outnumbered by the Catholics and Mainline Protestants by 2 to 1 or so. And most of the latter are just your regular people and not obviously malign.

    But they don’t really do much and are all but invisible. When I was a Mainline xian and first collided with the fundies, I spoke up often and as loudly as possible. And noticed that I was about the only xian surrounded by a sea of…OMICthulhu, atheists!!! WTH? Atheists???

    Needless to say, within months I was no longer a xian.

  8. says

    a_ray_in_dilbert_space “Really? Because I don’t see xtians out there shouting this guy and his ilk down? I keep hearing that there are decent xtians out there. Where?”
    Do counterprotesters have to wear badges indicating they’re Christians?

     
    Taz “I’m all for free speech, but how is “you deserve rape” not crossing a line where the university should step in to protect their students? It seems like a threat to me.”
    It’s not a threat. Think of it as “have a nice day” for assholes.

  9. grumpyoldfart says

    Of course the overwhelming majority of Christians are as appalled by this kind of thing

    My prediction:
    Not one preacher from a liberal church anywhere in America will say one word against this group.

  10. Michael Heath says

    Ed reports:

    a preacher named Brother Dean at Arizona State University calling people “faggots” and “whores” while holding a sign that says “You deserve rape.”

    Ed writes:

    . . . the overwhelming majority of Christians are as appalled by this kind of thing as any atheist is.

    Ed, this is a major logical failure on your part when we consider Hell-believing Christians. Mr. Dean is not even close to being in God’s league when it comes to his desire to inflict evil upon others.

    Many Christians are most certainly appalled by this yahoo; but simultaneously, Hell-believing Christians celebrate a god who promises to cause unimaginable suffering for eternity. This subset can hold both positions because, from what I’ve observed with a 100% hit rate, these Christians deny and avoid considering the nature of the god they’ve conjured up. At least the layman, I’ve never sought out an apologia defending the celebration of a supposed god who threatens eternal suffering.

  11. daved says

    Alaric? Does he wear black clothes, have floppy, long, black-dyed hair and wear lots o’ eye-liner?

    No, but he is going to sack Rome later this year.

  12. says

    Micheal Heath said:

    Ed, this is a major logical failure on your part when we consider Hell-believing Christians. Mr. Dean is not even close to being in God’s league when it comes to his desire to inflict evil upon others.

    Many Christians are most certainly appalled by this yahoo; but simultaneously, Hell-believing Christians celebrate a god who promises to cause unimaginable suffering for eternity. This subset can hold both positions because, from what I’ve observed with a 100% hit rate, these Christians deny and avoid considering the nature of the god they’ve conjured up. At least the layman, I’ve never sought out an apologia defending the celebration of a supposed god who threatens eternal suffering.

    I’m still waiting for the major logical failure on Ed’s part.

    Many Christians are appalled by this yahoo, but some of them believe in Hell, which is horrible, therefore….what?

    Does believing in Hell, however horrible that is, make a person not appalled by some asshole standing on a corner yelling about faggots and whores and rape? Don’t think so.

    Does a god who created Hell being a worse entity by far than Brother Dean have anything to do with how appalled Christians are likely to be by his behavior, whether they believe in Hell or not? Not to my knowledge.

    Hell is literally the worst thing ever– I agree– but I don’t know what the hell (pun intended) it has to do with what Ed said.

  13. D. C. Sessions says

    Alaric? Does he wear black clothes, have floppy, long, black-dyed hair and wear lots o’ eye-liner?

    Nope. And unlike PZ’s son of the same name, he also doesn’t wear uniform fatigues.

    Mine is more inclined to slacks and a NASA polo shirt. Light brown hair, short beard.

  14. Michael Heath says

    Gretchen,

    Major reading comprehension failure on your part. Hint, read the part again with the word, “celebrating”.

    I’ve never condemned Christians for believing in Hell (criticized yes). But I’ve long condemned Christians for celebrating a god who supposedly will condemn some to unimaginable suffering for eternity.

    This guy Ed blogs about here’s got nothing on the Christian god when it comes to their mutual desire for inflicting suffering on others. Where Hell-believing Christians celebrate the nature of the god they believe makes such promises, which is infinitely worse than what this yahoo advocates.

  15. says

    I watched approximately 15 seconds of the video. I will never get those 15 seconds back.

    If his “You deserve rape” is not threatening speech does that mean my, “You deserve to have your fucking head ripped off and have someone shit down your neck hole!” or, “You deserve to be dragged behind a pick-up truck, like that poor little doggie behind Chevy Chase’s car for FORTY FUCKING MILES in “National Lampoon’s Vacation”, OK, too?

    Please let me know before I go out and buy all that paint and Gator board.

  16. dingojack says

    daved – that’ll be on his ‘gap’ year.

    D. C. Sessions – how are you other sons Theuderic the Frank, Theoderic the Ostragoth and Theodoric the Visigoth doing?* :D
    Dingo
    ——–
    * Yes, I am easily amused.

  17. D. C. Sessions says

    OK, so it’s an unusual name. Now figure what the odds would be that one year his assigned roommate was also named “Alaric.”

  18. dingojack says

    D. C. Sessions – I meant no offence (as I said I’m easily amused). As to your son’s roommate – the Birthday Paradox?
    :) Dingo

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