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Mar 12 2014

Klingenschmitt and Barber: Together at Last

The National Religious Broadcasters Convention was held recently and featured a summit that rivals the meeting between Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Gordon Klingenschmitt and Matt Barber can be found together in a Youtube clip, putting the God in Godwin as Barber says “pretty soon Christians are going to have to start wearing a yellow cross. Are we in 1939 Germany here?”

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  1. 1
    matty1

    What is this pagan religious ritual he is worried about being forced to join in?

  2. 2
    zero6ix

    “Legitimate sexual morality.” Is that like filling out a notarized release form or something?

    Also, insert “priests behaving terribly” joke here.

    Or would that insertion be illegitimate?

  3. 3
    Goomba

    So Gordy how did you attempt to break into politics go again?

  4. 4
    Jeremy Shaffer

    matty1 at 1-

    What is this pagan religious ritual he is worried about being forced to join in?

    That would be secularism, of course.

  5. 5
    holytape

    Klingenschmitt and Barber: Together at Last… worst porno ever.

  6. 6
    DaveL

    “pretty soon Christians are going to have to start wearing a yellow cross. Are we in 1939 Germany here?”

    Going by the history of Christian faux-persecution in the U.S., the only way this would happen would be if Christians use their political influence to make it happen as a publicity stunt. Like that pastor who called in a favor with the local sheriff in order to get himself “arrested” in front of his congregation.

  7. 7
    Chiroptera

    … Barber says “pretty soon Christians are going to have to start wearing a yellow cross…..”

    Why would anyone force them to do that? Don’t evangelical fundamentalists already go out of their way to let everyone know their sincerely held religious beliefs?

  8. 8
    d.c.wilson

    Is “Legitimate sexual morality” the opposite of “legitimate rape” or are they synonymous?

  9. 9
    whirligig

    This seems redundant since Real Christians are already required to wear tiny American flags. They are required to do that, right? Why else would someone do that?

  10. 10
    sigurd jorsalfar

    Chiroptera, you beat me to it. I guess that woman who sued her employer, an airline, for not letting her wear her yellow cross to work wasn’t a real christian after all.

  11. 11
    Menyambal

    I know, let’s put some pagan slogan on all the money, and some pagan words in the pledge of allegiance, and perform pagan rituals before events ….

    We already have some pagan-looking stuff on the back of the dollars bills, but I think that is Masonic.

    Oooh, oooh, I know! Instead of the yellow crosses, we could simply make them live by their book. Hats, haircuts, food, clothing … meekness.

  12. 12
    freehand

    whirligig: This seems redundant since Real Christians are already required to wear tiny American flags. They are required to do that, right? Why else would someone do that?
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    Perhaps simple bad taste? As a gardener, I look at yards with flagpoles cemented into the lawn. They rarely improve the house.* If I ever have to go to an …event …that is likely to be heavily infested with Tea Baggers, I will buy at least three flag label pins and wear them all. (“Only one flag, neighbor? What’s wrong – don’t you love our country?”)
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    * I did see a house nearby that must be rented, or recently purchased, and it came with a flagpole. The new owner has made the best of an aesthetically questionable situation by raising the Jolly Roger.

  13. 13
    cptdoom

    Nothing says “real, manly heterosexual” like worrying about being forced to accessorize with jewelry you don’t want to wear.

  14. 14
    12ab

    I feel so sorry for these poor American Christians who have always been so persecuted and have suffered more than any other group of Americans – not really, of course. They whine not because they are being persecuted but because they are no longer able to deny the fundamental guarantees of freedom to those who do not believe or think as they do. Of course, this is not a modern phenomenon. This has been the modus operandi of the Church from its earliest beginnings. With the ascension of Constantine in the early 4th century Christians were able to become persecutors in their own right. Candida Moss, Professor of New Testament and Early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame has published a book entitled, “The Myth of Persecution: How Early Christians Invented A Story of Martyrdom” (Harper One Publishers, 2013, 308pp.). Far from being persecuted and weak, Christianity exists as a powerful entity in American life. Why then do the powerful loudly and boldly claim that they are being persecuted. Moss writes, “Martyrdom is easily adapted by the powerful as a way of casting themselves as victims and justifying their polemical and vitriolic attacks on others.” Barber and Klingenschmitt make a great team of “Frick and Frack.”

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    democommie

    “Barber and Klingenschmitt make a great team of “Frick and Frack.””

    I was thinking more like, “Prick & Hack; The Pulpit Brothers” (apologies to Tom & Ray Magliozzi from “Car Talk”).

    Actually, I like the idea of Barber and Klingstoshit together, doing a tandem skydive and BOTH of them forgetting to pack a ‘chute.

    Ed:

    I know it’s a still frame from the video (which I would not watch with your eyes) but ol’ Gordo seems to have an admiring look in his eye as he gazes at his co-parasite.

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    Dr X

    I don’t understand. When bigots are dressed in their traditonal white hoods and robes, will the yellow crosses replace the traditional white on red cross or will the yellow cross be worn in addition?

  17. 17
    Snoof

    This seems redundant since Real Christians are already required to wear tiny American flags. They are required to do that, right? Why else would someone do that?

    I thought it was a fish they had to wear.

  18. 18
    Marcus Ranum

    I bet he plays Goering at Xmas. For very select company.

  19. 19
    matty1

    Never play Goering, he can’t be bothered to learn the rules of any game then sulks if you don’t let him win.

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