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Dumbass: KKK Flag Isn’t Symbol of Violence

A man in Florida who looks like he stepped right out an episode of Cops is flying a KKK flag over his mobile home. But he says don’t worry, it’s not like he’s actually beating up “faggots” or black people or anything. It’s just his freedom of speech, dontchaknow.

“As many people know, the white families are producing less children because the father and mother work and you have interracial marriages and gay marriages, so there are less and less white children being born every day,” the man, who would only identify himself as Mr. Hayes, told Local 10’s Roger Lohse. “So we’re against that.”

Hayes said he started flying the KKK flag a couple weeks ago and posted a sign seeking new members. He claims so far the response has been positive.

“Don’t get anybody throwing bottles on my lawn or anything like that,” Hayes said. “They toot their horn. They stop. They wave. They take pictures.”

Hayes said he moved to Florida from New York four years ago, yet this Yankee also flies a confederate flag.

Despite the noose hanging in his front yard, Hayes said he does not condone violence.

“We don’t go around committing hate crimes,” Hayes said. “We don’t beat up on faggots or black people or burn crosses or any of that nonsense.”

I used to jokingly ask why white supremacists never seem to have anything to feel superior about, but in fact that is exactly the point. They tend to be losers who are looking around for someone to blame for their lot in life and people of other races are a convenient scapegoat. And I bet his reassurances are very comforting to any black people in the area while he’s got a noose in his front yard.

Comments

  1. Pierce R. Butler says

    If Mr. Hayes has a white sheet which hasn’t been cut up to make robes or conehead masks/hats, he could hang it up in his front yard and invite the neighbors over for outdoor screenings of Birth of a Nation.

  2. Olav says

    People like this make me think sometimes that Chinese style re-education camps may not even be such a bad idea.

  3. says

    We don’t beat up on faggots

    Sometimes, I wish people like him could suffer a bit of violence directed at them, just so they could see how they like it.

  4. A Masked Avenger says

    I used to jokingly ask why white supremacists never seem to have anything to feel superior about, but in fact that is exactly the point.

    I’ve long said that. Some of the most virulent racists after the Civli War were white sharecroppers, for example. Their life circumstances were about the same as black sharecroppers, and both lived not much better than pre-war slaves. But the white sharecroppers could at least comfort themselves that they were better than them there n**gers. Divide and conquer. If the sharecroppers recognized their common cause, they might have taken steps to better all their lives, at the expense of their employers.

  5. karmacat says

    If he really wants more “white” people in the world, he really shouldn’t use himself as an example.

  6. lorn says

    The fact is that historically the Klan was a last-gasp effort by whites who were just as destitute and uneducated as the newly freed blacks to re-differentiate themselves. The emancipation of the slaves broke down the last barrier between poor white families and the black families. It is a struggle to avoid being last.

    A struggle that this man has lost.

  7. whheydt says

    My father used to maintain that the problem people in the South were the “poor white trash” who looked around and found that there were blacks who were better off then they (the PWT) were, and really resented it.

  8. Usernames are smart says

    The fact is that historically the Klan was a last-gasp effort by whites who were just as destitute and uneducated as the newly freed blacks to re-differentiate themselves.
    —lorn #8

    That was the first Klan, which promptly (well, after a fashion) died out.

    D.W. ‘I am not racist, really’ Griffith’s “Birth of a Nation” caused the birth of the Second Klan, which is the one we know and love today.

    Sadly, I’ve long-since tossed my old college history texts, so I can’t give you a proper reference.

  9. hexidecima says

    To appoint, I agree, let him fly the flag and show what a hateful ass he is. However, the flag is a way to bully people too. Like all of the idiots who want the laws that legalize discrimination like in AZ, and Pennsylvania, they should have to put big signs out showing just who they hate so we can all know who they are.

    Django Unchained had one of the best movie images of the Klan. A bunch of morons in hoods that are made by their wives and made badly.

  10. dugglebogey says

    Step 1: Gay people get married.
    Step 2: ?????
    Step 3: Less white children are born
    Step 4: PROFIT!

  11. says

    They tend to be losers who are looking around for someone to blame for their lot in life and people of other races are a convenient scapegoat.

    It was also an effective tool for the Confederacy to recruit canon fodder while the actual slave owners stayed on their plantations sipping mint julip. “Yes, you’re an illiterate, dirt poor farmer who can’t afford shoes, but at least you ain’t a n***er! Sign up to help preserve out way of life!”

  12. Nick Gotts says

    Dumbass: KKK Flag Isn’t Symbol of Violence

    Hmm. Reminds me of all those dumbasses saying the Confederate flags, Celtic crosses, Wolfsangels, UPA flags, portraits of Bandera, 14s, 88s… being displayed by the far right in the Ukraine aren’t really symbols of fascism.

  13. A Masked Avenger says

    It was also an effective tool for the Confederacy to recruit canon fodder…

    The first Klan was founded in 1865 as an insurgency against reconstruction. Specifically, it was an attempt to disenfranchise blacks, who were newly given the vote at the same time that 10,000-15,000 prominent former confederates temporarily lost the vote. The Klan was basically organized voter-intimidation.

  14. says

    @Usernames are smart #10 – The second incarnation of the Klan reached its peak in 1928, with its march in Washington D. C., and had pretty much died out by the start of WW II. What we have now is the third incarnation, which arose out of the Civil Rights era. This version has essentially merged with and become indistinguishable from neo-Nazism. The first incarnation was about revenge, the second incarnation was about preserving a “peculiar way of life.” The third is defined by the notion of white power.

  15. says

    If the sharecroppers recognized their common cause, they might have taken steps to better all their lives, at the expense of their employers.

    Years ago I heard a fellow on talk radio describe it perfectly. He said:
    “The ony thing you need t’ unnerstand ’bout American politics is they ain’t no cracker so shit pore he won’t take the food from his own child’s mouth and throw it to some banker’s dog if you jus’ plant in his mind the idea that some ni**er ‘ll git some if he don’t.”

  16. freehand says

    Modusoperandi: Some people make you want to let the air out of the tires on their home.
    .
    [snort!]
    .

  17. rapiddominance says

    Some people make you want to let the air out of the tires on their home.

    Modusoperandi, as somebody from a family of modest income who was raised in a mobile home, I feel like I’m being stereotyped by your comment. I know you were just trying to be funny and meant absolutely no offense, but could you please be a little more careful with your sense of humor. I don’t know what your standard of living is, but some of us are simply struggling to get by.

    But again, understand that I know you didn’t mean to hurt anybody.

    Just kidding! I’m gaslighting you, bro. Yes, I did grow up in a mobile home, but I do have a reasonable sense of humor. I’m just feeling playful today.

    Anyway, I gotta put my sheet on and dig out the pointy hat out of the closet, We’ve got a meeting tonight where we’re initiating new recruits and it wouldn’t suit well for the Grand Dragon to show up late. Tomorrow, its off to a Tea Party Rally.

    Maybe I’m still joking.

  18. Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :) says

    People like this make me think sometimes that Chinese style re-education camps may not even be such a bad idea.

    What do you mean, “re?”

  19. Matrim says

    I’d actually prefer it if all racist/anti-gay dumbasses flew flags to announce their attitudes. I prefer to know who they are.

    *shakes head* I get the idea, but behavior influences thinking. If the societal pressures are great enough to force people to at least pretend they aren’t racist assholes, a goodly number of them will actually become less racist. This won’t eliminate racism, it will always be there, but if the social cost is high enough it’ll at least deal with some of it while forcing the rest to act like they weren’t racist. I’d much rather have a few racist people who don’t act on their racism than a bunch of overt racists.

  20. Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :) says

    Some people make you want to let the air out of the tires on their home.

    Modusoperandi, as somebody from a family of modest income who was raised in a mobile home, I feel like I’m being stereotyped by your comment.

    The OP explicitly states that the flag-flying in this case occurred over a mobile home.

  21. Nick Gotts says

    Reginald Selkirk@24,

    Well considering it was already awarded to Henry Kissinger, that doesn’t strike me as particularly bizarre.

  22. eric says

    Speaking of KKK symbolic speech…one of the most surreal experiences of my life was being in Spain for holy week. Loads of people running around in klan-like costumes of all colors. All the tourist trinket shops filled with little pointy-hatted (with eyeholes) sheet-wearing figurines. The reasoning part of your brain knows it has nothing to do with racism, but decades of US cultural heritage just keeps whispering to you “this is wrong.”

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