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  1. steve78b says

    I agree that we should storm someplace and kick somebody out.

    How about Schafly and Solomon. Easy to kick 2 nutcases out.

    Steve in OK

  2. raven says

    I agree that we should storm someplace and kick somebody out.

    How about Schafly and Solomon

    As long as we are playing Let’s Pretend.

    How about storming Wisconsin and tossing Scott Walker out. Then Florida and Rick Scott, and Texas to get rid of Perry and Cruz. And that is just the start.

    This is pretty silly. Obama has won two elections by 9 million and 5 million votes. What they are advocating is a civil war among 317 million people.

    We have a better way. It’s called…democracy. We vote people we don’t like out of office. Evidently they aren’t big fans of voting and democracy. But we already knew that.

  3. says

    No, no that’s not what democracy is about! It’s about the majority using their democratic majority to beat up on minorities like gays and atheists and all the other icky people we don’t like. So if the majority of voters put one of the minorities in office then..um…um…..ok, I’ll have to think about this some more.

  4. grumpyoldfart says

    I had to laugh at the way the older guy in the background was just left hanging there by the program director.

  5. Chiroptera says

    raven, #2:

    Indeed. These are people who can’t maintain elected majorities. The only way they can get majorities is through voter suppression, gerrymandered legislative districts, and (they hope) by small conservative states having the same number of Senators as large liberal states.

    “Why don’t you use the democratic process to elect your people?” Didn’t work last time. Hence, the process is flawed.

  6. jnorris says

    Apparently Ms Schlafly and Mr Solomon didn’t get the memo about 1.8 million True Patriots ™ recruited by U.S. Army Col. Harry G. Riley, retired, storming Washington DC on May 16th.

  7. Trebuchet says

    Are they completely unaware that it’s Ukrainian liberals who’ve kicked out the conservative president, who was supported by current right-wing hero Vlad Putin?

    @3, Dingo: Sorry for the nitpick, but there’s no “The” in “Ukraine”.

  8. John Pieret says

    “Yes, I agree, America for Americans,” Schlafly responded.

    Gee, I hope you have some First Nations blood, Phyllis.

  9. Pierce R. Butler says

    According to Max Blumenthal’s report, this video (currently disabled for allegedly technical reasons) shows the Ukrainian protesters adorning Kiev’s city hall with “[w]hite supremacist banners and Confederate flags”.

    How could anyone expect the likes of Schlafly & Solomon not to drool like Pavlov’s dogs?

  10. dingojack says

    Trebuchet – so where exactly are these multiple Ukraines? Are they occupying various ‘multiverses’, perhaps?
    Dingo

  11. tuibguy says

    Regarding “The Ukraine” and “Ukraine,” the Beeb explains:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18233844

    “The use of the article relates to the time before independence in 1991, when Ukraine was a republic of the Soviet Union known as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, she says. Since then, it should be merely Ukraine.”

  12. says

    We have a better way. It’s called…democracy. We vote people we don’t like out of office. Evidently they aren’t big fans of voting and democracy.

    They’re all for elections, so long as they win. Any other result is automatically considered illegitimate in their eyes. That’s what ODS is all about. Obama wasn’t their candidate, so his election is by definition, illegitimate and he must be overthrown by any means necessary.

  13. Nick Gotts says

    Are they completely unaware that it’s Ukrainian liberals who’ve kicked out the conservative president, who was supported by current right-wing hero Vlad Putin? – Trebuchet

    That may be what you’ve picked up from the western media, but it’s very far from the truth. Here is a rundown of the new cabinet. I’ve extracted descriptions of some of the most interesting figures:

    Oleksandr Sych

    Oleksandr Sych, 49, was appointed deputy prime minister. This Svoboda Party member from Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast had a swift rise since his party made it to parliament. He has made some highly controversial moves in parliament since his election.

    One of his legal initiatives was an attempt to ban all abortions, even for pregnancies that occurred during rape, an idea that caused a massive outcry among human rights groups. He also famously recommended women to “lead the kind of lifestyle to avoid the risk of rape, including one from drinking alcohol and being in controversial company.” It’s not clear what area of the economy he will supervise as deputy prime minister.

    [The Svoboda Party is an observer member of the Alliance of European National movements, whose full members (only parties in EU states are eligible for full membership) are UK's Nazi-led British National Party, the antisemitic and anti-Roma thugs of Hungary's Jobbik., and fascist parties from Italy, Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria and Sweden. The Svoboda party leader, Oleg Tyahnybok, inveighed against the "Moscow-Jewish mafia" he said were running Ukraine. in 2012, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre awarded Svoboda fifth place in its "top ten antisemites" parade, just above Greece's Golden Dawn.]

    Yuriy Prodan

    Russian-born Yuriy Prodan, 55, had already been in this job under President Yushchenko and Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko in 2007-2010. He had previously worked in Kyivenergo, the capital’s energy monopoly supplier, and played a central role in creation of the National Energy Market. Despite its name, it has become a poorly controlled state monopoly for sale of electricity. Prodan has been described by the Ukrainian media as a person close to Privat Group of controversial billionaire Igor Kolomoisky.

    Oleksandr Shlapak

    The Finance Ministry was taken over by Russian-born, Lviv-educated Oleksandr Shlapak. A former deputy head of PrivatBank, he is also a representative of the Kolomoisky group in the new Cabinet. In his previous government incarnations, he has served as President Leonid Kuchma’s economy minister and deputy head of the President Yushchenko’s secretariat, among other. Shlapak was one of the witnesses for prosecution during the Tymoshenko trial, which sent her to jail for seven years.

    Serhiy Kvit

    New Education Minister Serhiy Kvit, 48, has worked as President of Kyiv-Mohyla University since 2007. The school is considered one of the best in Ukraine, but has not developed much in 2007. Kvit has been a member of right-wing organizations in Ukraine, and an ardent enemy of previous Education Minister Dmytro Tabachnyk.

    Lyudmyla Denysova

    New Minister for Social Issues Lyudmyla Denysova has been in governments before, and is no stranger to controversies. She served in the same job under Prime Minister Tymoshenko in 2007-2010, and has been a parliament deputy of three convocations. Chesno, a pro-transparency non-government campaign, said in 2012 that there is a “high probability” that Denysova was involved in nepotism and abused power. In particular, the State Security Service discovered Hr 60 million worth of embezzlement in her ministry, but no criminal case was ever started.

    Andriy Mokhnyk

    Two Svoboda party members took over the ecology ministry and the agriculture ministry. Andriy Mokhnyk, 42-year-old deputy head of Svoboda with three higher educations (none ecology-related), took over the ecology ministry. This may be bad news for international companies that have signed agreements with Ukraine to develop alternative energy sources because the party had organized fierce resistance campaigns across the nation.

    Oleksandr Myrnyi

    Oleksandr Myrnyi, 53, the new Agriculture Minister, is the only government member with no higher education. Despite that, he features in top 5 Svoboda’s higest earners, according to Forbes, after declaring an income of close to Hr 17 million in 2012. He business interests are concentrated in agriculture, which represents a conflict of interests in his current position.

    Arsen Avakov

    Arsen Avakov, 50, was confirmed as Interior Minister. A former head of the Kharkiv regional council and former head of Yushchenko’s presidential campaign in Kharkiv, he was accused of illegal privatization of land and abuse of power and was under criminal investigation by the previous government, which forced him to flee to Italy. His fellow party members said the case was politically motivated. Avakov has also founded and run a big business and a bank. He is one of the most authoritative members of Batkivshchyna at the moment, who emerged during the revolution.

    Another member of the fascist Svoboda Party, Oleh Makhnitskyy, has been appointed acting chief prosecutor. There were calls from demonstrators on the Maidan for Dmytro Yarosh, Fuehrer leader of the paramilitary “Right Sector”, which advocates a “National revolution” and considers Svoboda “too liberal”, to be given a security-related post. Watch this space.

    The “interim President”, Oleksander Turchynov, like his party leader Yulia Tymoshenko, was a close associate of Pavlo Lazarenko, former Ukranian prime minister – and former inmate of the US correctional system, having been convicted of money laundering, wire fraud and extortion. The indictment specifically mentions corrupt payments from Tymoshenko.

    Liberals? My arse.

  14. bahrfeldt says

    “They think 100 million people should storm Washington DC to kick Obama out of office”. In teabag, that’s 73 obese drunks on disability who were chickenhawks 45 years ago. Still an overoptimistic turnout goal. But still enough to disrupt traffic in the District.

  15. Ichthyic says

    So… from barely disguised criminal syndicate, to neofascism, with a barely disguised criminal syndicate.

    uh bravo?

    *sigh*

  16. poose says

    “So… from barely disguised criminal syndicate, to neofascism, with a barely disguised criminal syndicate.

    uh bravo?”

    Oh my. Am I the only one that sees the humor in that?

    Next on Bravo-”Real Wives of Belarus”

    Or did I miss the mark there, perhaps a reality program following the lives of washed-out wanabe conservative pundits too stupid to hear the “15 minutes are up” timer screaming at them?

  17. dfarmer1584 says

    Of course this is simply their deluded fantasy and hardly rates comment, but I’ll make one obvious point anyway. Even if, granting their silly suppositions, they could muster millions to march in rebellion on the capital rendering civilian and military authority unable or unwilling to act, can they possibly be so mired in fantasy that they assume you and I, and many millions like us would sit idly by while the American Taliban takes over? We tend to not be blow hard, phony tough pretenders like them, but given their ridiculous scenario, I am confident we would crush them in short order.

  18. voidhawk says

    Nick, thanks for this rundown, I knew a large number of the rioters were nationalists and fascists. I didn’t realise how many of them were in the interim cabinet.

  19. colnago80 says

    Speaking of the situation in the Ukraine, here’s a column from chickenhawk neocon Charles Krauthammer suggesting that a US naval flotilla be sent to dissuade Putin from intervening there. Krauthammer is sure a brave fellow pontificating from the safety of his wheelchair.

    http://goo.gl/RWHNIO

  20. dingojack says

    One of the members of the interim parliament noted that being a member is ‘political suicide’. Perhaps these drop-kicks being a member of the interim cabinet is the best hope for Ukraine.
    :) Dingo

  21. says

    I’m not sure if Vlad is wise to rattle his saber against Ukraine and upsetting the rest of Europe. Unless he wants to lob a few of those Tsarbombs he could have a serious problem with Nato and other Europeans who are, justifiably, less than sanguine about a resurgent Imperial Russia. I’m no expert but I think he’s a blowhard piece-of-shit–as are most dictators when they have to face the music.

    The wisest course for the rest of Europe and the U.S. is to immediately discontinue all treaty, security and trade agreements with Putin. Oh, wait, that’s only if they’re serious about not kowtowing to Vlad because he’s a bully and a thug…

  22. Pierce R. Butler says

    The video I mentioned in # 5, now online, does show a large, official-looking chamber including a confederate battle flag and somebody repeatedly attempting to tape up a white banner featuring an outlined cross-in-circle design (probably the “white supremacy” emblem mentioned my Max Blumenthal). My link was foo; I hope this one works better.

    Meanwhile, since nobody has mentioned it – this adventure in intervention, strongly promoted by the neocon faction of our ruling class, also puts a stick in the wheels for Obama and Kerry’s efforts to enlist Putin’s cooperation regarding Syria, Iran, and other major crises.

  23. lorn says

    “100 million” … “of us”… He says.

    Except there aren’t 100 million of people like you Rick Solomon and, based upon your literal hand wringing on camera, betraying your nervousness, you don’t think there are either. The far right and fundamentalists who rode to power under Reagan are any ever smaller minority.

    People now more clearly see their divide and conquer propaganda for what it is. They still have the strength to block progress but not enough to advance their agenda culturally. Stick a fork in them … they’re done.

    Their apocalypse is close at hand. It isn’t the Biblical version with fire, brimstone and battles between supernatural beings. Their apocalypse will take the form of them getting old and tired and living in a nursing home where their grandchildren, many of whom are brown and/or gay, will visit them every second Tuesday, pat them on their heads, and smile knowingly as they rattle and rant about patriots saving America from the liberals and an angry God.

  24. Ichthyic says

    Or did I miss the mark there, perhaps a reality program following the lives of washed-out wanabe conservative pundits too stupid to hear the “15 minutes are up” timer screaming at them?

    You know… you might actually be able to sell that, even in the Ukraine!

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