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Feb 14 2014

Abortion Clinic Bomber Wanted for Attempted Child Molestation

Curtis Anton Beseda, an infamous abortion clinic bomber from the state of Washington, is being sought by the police in Snohomish, Washington for groping an 11 year old girl and trying to lure her out of a department store. The Seattle Times reports:

The tips started coming in shortly after authorities released surveillance photos of a man suspected of groping an 11-year-old girl at a Fred Meyer store in Snohomish.

The callers were certain the thin man in glasses was Curtis Anton Beseda, who once served 12 years in federal prison for setting fire to abortion clinics in Western Washington in the 1980s.

At least three people said they were “100 percent sure” it was Beseda, including an employee at an Everett restaurant he was said to frequent; a person who went to college with him; and a former high-school classmate, according to Snohomish County prosecutors.

Trouble is, no one knows where he is.

Beseda was charged with first-degree child molestation in Snohomish County Superior Court on Friday, and a warrant was issued for his arrest.

Snohomish County prosecutors allege that Beseda, 58, was at the Fred Meyer store at 2801 Bickford Ave. on Jan. 27 when he approached an 11-year-old girl who was waiting for her father outside a restroom.

Beseda leaned so close to the girl she could feel his breath on her ear, then he pressed his pelvis into her backside and fondled her buttocks and thigh, prosecutors wrote in the affidavit of probable cause that lays out the state’s case.

No wonder he bombed abortion clinics; you can’t molest them if they aren’t born.

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  1. 1
    raven

    Sigh. Once again. You xians really need to hang onto your laminated excuses card that the churches hand out. Those things cost money you know, especially when you have to print up millions of them.

    1. It was a false flag operation.
    2. Atheists do it to.
    3. You can’t prove that Beseda is a xian.
    4. Beseda isn’t a Real Xian.

    And remember to use them all. No one is going to care or believe you anyway.

  2. 2
    left0ver1under

    It sounds just like the case of Earl “Butch” Kimmerling back in 2000, an anti-gay fundy christian and bus driver who adopted a young girl to prevent a gay man from adopting her.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2000/apr/09/news/mn-17680

    Within six months, Kimmerling was raping her. Thankfully, his wife turned him in to the police when she found out.

    No wonder he bombed abortion clinics; you can’t molest them if they aren’t born.

    See also: the catholic clergy’s opposition to abortion

  3. 3
    Ray Ingles

    To be fair, as Larry Niven put it, “There is no cause so noble it will not attract some kooks.” There are certainly vile atheists as well, but that doesn’t discredit atheism. This by itself doesn’t prove anything about anti-abortion activists. It’s their arguments that fail.

  4. 4
    raven

    Clayton Waagner From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Escaped federal prisoner; Bank robbery; Unlawful possession of unregistered bomb device; Felon/Escapee in possession of firearms; Carjacking

    Clayton Lee Waagner (born August 25, 1956) is a convicted bank robber and anti-abortion activist.

    He was born Roger Waagner in North Dakota. He was an escaped fugitive during the spring, summer and fall of 2001 and was the FBI’s 467th fugitive to be placed on the Ten Most Wanted list for carjackings, firearms violations, and bank robbery on September 21, 2001.

    He was placed on the United States Marshals Service Top 15 Fugitives list for sending more than 280 letters that claimed to contain anthrax, which he mailed to Planned Parenthood with return addresses of the Marshals Service and the Secret Service beginning in October 2001.[1] He is currently in prison.

    Clayton Waagner is another one.

    The xian terrorists are a motley bunch.

    I’ve seen how they operate. They pick socially marginal, questionably sane people, wind them up, and point them in the direction of their targets. Sometimes it even works and people end up dead or buildings end up torched.

  5. 5
    Chiroptera

    Ah, jesus.

    And remember, kids, it’s same sex marriage that poses a danger to children!

  6. 6
    Larry

    Its all OK. Like people he killed or injured in blowing them up, this girl was post pre-born and, thus, not under the protection of the baby jebus. In other words, fair game

  7. 7
    raven

    This by itself doesn’t prove anything about anti-abortion activists.

    Yeah it does.

    It’s not just one of them. It’s part of a pattern.

    BTW, congratulations on paying attention. You however, only managed Excuse # 2. If you have lost your Xian Excuses card, just copy the one above.

    Fugitive’s brother cuts off hand in protest - News – The Independent
    www .independent. co.uk/…/fugitives-brother-cuts-off-hand-in-p…‎

    by David UsborneMar 11, 1998 – Fugitive’s brother cuts off hand in protest … The grisly act was being seen as an appeal to the FBI to end its search for the brother, Eric Rudolph, believed to … dropped out of plane – which comes to a rather muddy end. video.

    Eric Rudolph’s ( convicted multiple murder), brother cut off his own hand with a power saw while videotaping it, in some sort of support of his brother. Don’t ask me to explain it. It doesn’t make any sense.

    If you look at the forced birthers, female slavers, and xian terrorists, they are all pretty kook and ugly people. See the thread below on Bob Marshall and his lie about handicapped kids.

  8. 8
    Chiroptera

    Ray Ingles, #3: To be fair, as Larry Niven put it, “There is no cause so noble it will not attract some kooks.”

    That is true. On the other hand, if this is one more data point that shows just what a large percentage of the movement is “kooks,” then I think we are allowed to draw some conclusions about the nobility of the cause.

    When you listen to the main spokes people for the forced pregnancy movement, they all sound pretty irrational, often to the point where I’d worry if I were left alone in a room with them.

  9. 9
    illdoittomorrow

    Raven at 7,

    “Eric Rudolph’s ( convicted multiple murder), brother cut off his own hand with a power saw while videotaping it, in some sort of support of his brother. Don’t ask me to explain it. It doesn’t make any sense.”

    He can’t fire a rilfe, he’ll have trouble reloading a handgun, and if he tries to build a bomb, being down a hand, to me, just increases the chances of blowing himself up.

    What’s not to like?

  10. 10
    cptdoom

    … including an employee at an Everett restaurant he was said to frequent; a person who went to college with him; and a former high-school classmate, according to Snohomish County prosecutors.

    As an aside: Given the many posts Ed has had about eyewitness testimony, I wanted to point out the above is exactly the kind of eyewitness testimony that tends to be the most reliable: when someone who is very familiar with the individual makes the identification, not someone who ran into the person only once.

    IOW, his goose is getting prepped for the oven right now.

  11. 11
    d.c.wilson

    Anyone willing to blow up a building probably has psychopathic tendencies already. I agree with rave. These groups target social misfits because they’re the kind of people who can be talked into doing this kind of thing.

  12. 12
    Sastra

    cptdoom #10 wrote:

    Given the many posts Ed has had about eyewitness testimony, I wanted to point out the above is exactly the kind of eyewitness testimony that tends to be the most reliable: when someone who is very familiar with the individual makes the identification, not someone who ran into the person only once.

    Quite right. I am, however, wondering a little about the clarity of the ‘surveillance photos.’

    Sometimes they’ve got a good, clean, clear shot of a face. But a lot of times … not so much.

    Every now and then my local paper will show a video still or surveillance photo of a criminal-caught-on-tape and ask for anyone who recognizes the perpetrator to phone police. And in almost every instance I cringe because all you can tell is that it’s someone wearing a nondescript coat with a hood and sunglasses … with a hand and, if you look carefully, you can see what might be a nose or maybe a mouth. That guy? The one with the head? Oh, yeah, I know him.

    I am assuming the eye-witnesses have something more to go on in this case.

  13. 13
    Ray Ingles

    raven –

    It’s not just one of them. It’s part of a pattern.

    I would hardly be shocked to find that the case. But are there actual data and stats and studies on it? Are people opposed to abortion measurably more likely than others to be child molesters?

    (Note: I’m not a Christian, and I specifically said, “[anti-abortionists'] arguments fail”. One of the reasons I love this blog is because Ed tries to be fair, and call out errors in thinking no matter who’s making them.)

  14. 14
    sigurd jorsalfar

    Ed. The blockquoted portion of your posts makes it clear that this was more than ‘attempted’ child molestation. Perhaps you meant ‘alleged’?

  15. 15
    dhall

    I would suspect that if you knew someone as well as those who recognized this guy and identified him, their recognition of him was probably based on more than just physical appearance. If someone you know fairly well is on video, you might recognize that person by the way he moves, maybe certain characteristic gestures or the way he stands, and other features. In that case, even a less than clear video could be helpful. Beyond that, if a blurry video is all the police have, they’ll use it, in the event that someone can honestly recognize the person being shown. But I agree, sometimes it seems like a real longshot to identify people on some of those videos, and the chances of a wrong identification are probably high.

  16. 16
    Ichthyic

    There are certainly vile atheists as well, but that doesn’t discredit atheism.

    this isn’t the fucking argument though. the argument is that atheists DON’T claim to have religious dogma as a guide to morality, while xians DO. It’s the hypocrisy of their entire claim to morality that is at issue, and does indeed provide much evidence to discredit.

    this is just another of the thousand points of light illustrating why xianity, and in fact ALL claims of religious morality, are simply bunk.

  17. 17
    Ichthyic

    One of the reasons I love this blog is because Ed tries to be fair, and call out errors in thinking no matter who’s making them.

    like yourself, for example. ;)

  18. 18
    thalwen

    Many (not all)anti-choice activists are also part of the Christian Patriarchy – the ones that are extreme enough to resort to violence pretty much also tend to be. The Christian Patriarchy movement basically teaches that the husband/father has absolute control over his family and there is a lot of physical, emotional and sexual abuse associated with that sort of lifestyle. I don’t know whether there’s a correlation between being anti-choice and abuse – but certainly the kind of thinking that puts people in a hierarchy because of their gender and age does not help diminish it.

  19. 19
    Ray Ingles

    Ichthyic –

    the argument is that atheists DON’T claim to have religious dogma as a guide to morality, while xians DO.

    Um, Ed didn’t make that case. And I don’t see where raven made that case either. Can you quote the passage where that claim was made?

    What’s more, few if any Christians make the claim that no Christians will ever do terrible things. At most, the typical Christian claims that Christians are less likely to do terrible things. Talking about outliers isn’t going to attack that claim. Crunching the numbers might, though.

  20. 20
    dingojack

    Not very curious are you Ray?

    So if Patty wasn’t trying to wave away a particularly immoral act written into the bible so he could justify using it as a ‘moral crutch’ why was he doing it? Hmmm?

    Dingo

  21. 21
    Ray Ingles

    dingojack –

    Not very curious are you Ray?

    Claiming that everything that God orders is somehow moral (which is what you linked to) is not the same thing as claiming that everything Christians do is moral, nor is it the claim that Christians don’t do immoral things. All three are wrong, of course, but they are not the same claim.

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